Re(2): bcc not consistently working

2007-05-05 Thread Ken Pope
That's a lot of BCC's. A lot of the new SPAM filters will also trigger
with this many BCC recipients. I would check with the server admin of
your ISP or the person in charge of your network and make sure they
don't enforce any limits on BCC recipients.

Thanks for the suggestion.  I double-checked with my ISP and because I
have a business account, there is no limit on the # of bcc recipients I
can send to.  I have my own home network and I didn't set a limit. 
Thanks for prompting me to check these kinds of potential sources for
the problem.

Ken




Re(2): bcc not consistently working

2007-05-05 Thread Ken Pope
was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages?

If there was, I sure couldn't spot it.  All messages are in ascii (no
HTML)  without attachments.  These 2 didn't seem longer or to differ
from the others in any way that I could see.

if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as
to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the
overflow is causing a bug?

quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000
names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000
and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group. 

Thanks for the suggestion!

Ken




bcc not consistently working

2007-05-03 Thread Ken Pope
I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9
and with 1 GB Ram.

For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself
with the members listed as BCCs.  Gradually the list has grown and now I
send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members.

Twice in the last 2 days there has been a problem when I send messages
(previously no problems at all, and so far, the problem has occurred
only once each day while the day's other messages are sent OK).

The problem is that although I send each message to myself with the
members listed as BCCs, in the 2 problematic instances, ALL of the BCCs
showed up in the headers, causing some of the receiving servers to
reject the post but the other members received the messages with all
names and email addresses revealed.

PLEASE HELP!  As you can imagine, this is a real problem for me.  I
would *greatly* appreciate suggestions about what is going wrong and how
I might fix the problem.

Thanks!

Ken 




Re: bcc not consistently working

2007-05-03 Thread Marlyse Comte
was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages?

if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as
to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the
overflow is causing a bug?

quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000
names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000
and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group. 

hope this makes sense.

just in case you are not somebody of many backups, hiccups like this
mean orange alarm to at least now ensure you backup your address-book
(and database would be a good idea too, and all your pref settings...
you know, just in case).

---marlyse


 former message(s) quotes: -


I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9
and with 1 GB Ram.

For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself
with the members listed as BCCs.  Gradually the list has grown and now I
send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members.

Twice in the last 2 days there has been a problem when I send messages
(previously no problems at all, and so far, the problem has occurred
only once each day while the day's other messages are sent OK).

The problem is that although I send each message to myself with the
members listed as BCCs, in the 2 problematic instances, ALL of the BCCs
showed up in the headers, causing some of the receiving servers to
reject the post but the other members received the messages with all
names and email addresses revealed.

PLEASE HELP!  As you can imagine, this is a real problem for me.  I
would *greatly* appreciate suggestions about what is going wrong and how
I might fix the problem.

Thanks!

Ken 







Re: bcc not consistently working

2007-05-03 Thread Wayne Brissette
was there ANYTHING special about these 2 messages?

if not, the only thought I have on this is that maybe PM has a limit as
to how many BCC's it can take and you have gone past that limit and the
overflow is causing a bug?

quickest solution I could think of is to make groups which contain 1,000
names and not more (so currently you would have 2 groups, 1 with 1,000
and one with 300) and then send the identical message to each group. 

hope this makes sense.

just in case you are not somebody of many backups, hiccups like this
mean orange alarm to at least now ensure you backup your address-book
(and database would be a good idea too, and all your pref settings...
you know, just in case).

---marlyse


 former message(s) quotes: -


I use PM 5.5.3 on a MacBook Pro (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo) with Tiger 10.4.9
and with 1 GB Ram.

For years I've run an opt-in-only list, sending each message to myself
with the members listed as BCCs.  Gradually the list has grown and now I
send several messages a day (news items, etc.) to the 1,300 members.

That's a lot of BCC's. A lot of the new SPAM filters will also trigger
with this many BCC recipients. I would check with the server admin of
your ISP or the person in charge of your network and make sure they
don't enforce any limits on BCC recipients. Also if you're starting to
get to this limit, it might be time to start thinking about some sort of
listserver instead of BCC'ing folks. 

Wayne

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