Re: [Powernet] [EXTERNAL] RP field instrument tamper seals

[Barnby, Monica via Powernet]

No. Diablo Canyon does not use tamper proof seals on RP Instruments.

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No, we do not require tamper seals on RP instruments

Stephen J Holmes, CHP
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Powernet] RP field instrument tamper seals

I have a question regarding tamper resistant seals for calibration on RP 
meters.  A QA audit made a SFR (supplier finding report) at an instrument 
calibration facility stating vendor should be placing these seals on our RP 
meters.

The cited standard is ANSI Z540:1994 Section 11.5, but after some discussion we 
agreed that this only applies to lab standards.  He also cited ISO 17025:2017 
Section 6.4.12 which states "the laboratory shall take practical measures to 
prevent unintended adjustments of equipment from invalidating results."  The 
auditor said that industry interprets this as requiring tamper seals, but also 
said that complying with the ISO standard was a matter of lab certification 
only (not a regulatory requirement).

Does any site require tamper resistant seals on RP field instruments?  YesNo

If yes how do you handle routine battery and/or desiccant replacement?

What do you do if a seal is found broken or missing.  In short, would the event 
be entered into the corrective action system?

Do you rely on your source check and zero check of the instrument to "validate" 
its calibration in lieu of the tamper seal?

Thanks in advance
Tom Meek, CHP



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Re: [Powernet] RP field instrument tamper seals

[Sandy Voss via Powernet]

I was a member of the HPS Lab Accreditation Committee for a few years
before the HPS abandoned that worthwhile project.  ISO17025 was a big part
of our assessment steps.  Tamper seals were not stated as a requirement
but "practical steps to prevent tampering" are a valid point.

Los Alamos does not require tamper seals.  But some of our accessible
calib controls have covers on them.  All of our "smart" instruments have
passwords that prevent tampering of the cal parameters.

We tell the users to use ONLY specific replacement batteries AND we try to
make those specific batteries available.

A broken tamper seal or an indication that unauthorized adjustments had
been made would be an item of discussion at our routine Instrument Working
Team meetings.

Battery checks, zero checks, operational checks, and response checks are
required before use in the operating procedures.  We are working towards
having only calibrated sources for operational checks.

An operational check requires a specific response to a calibrated source
while a response check only requires a meter response to the source.

Tom, LANL



On Tue, April 9, 2019 1:24 pm, Tom Meek via Powernet wrote:
 I have a question regarding tamper resistant seals for calibration on RP
 meters.  A QA audit made a SFR (supplier finding report) at an instrument
 calibration facility stating vendor should be placing these seals on our
 RP meters.   The cited standard is ANSI Z540:1994 Section 11.5, but after
some
 discussion we agreed that this only applies to lab standards.  He also
cited ISO 17025:2017 Section 6.4.12 which states "the laboratory shall
take
 practical measures to prevent unintended adjustments of equipment from
invalidating results."  The auditor said that industry interprets this as
requiring  tamper seals, but also said that complying with the ISO
standard was a matter of lab certification only (not a regulatory
requirement).
>
Does any site require tamper resistant seals on RP field instruments?
Yes   No
>
> If yes how do you handle routine battery and/or desiccant replacement?
>
> What do you do if a seal is found broken or missing.  In short, would the
> event be entered into the corrective action system?
>
> Do you rely on your source check and zero check of the instrument to
> "validate" its calibration in lieu of the tamper seal?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Tom Meek, CHP
>
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Re: [Powernet] [EXTERNAL] RP field instrument tamper seals

[Noble, Douglas L via Powernet]

No seals used here

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Subject: Re: [Powernet] [EXTERNAL] RP field instrument tamper seals

No, we do not require tamper seals on RP instruments

Stephen J Holmes, CHP
Rad Prot Tech Support Manager
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315-791-3577 | 845-476-0796 (mobile)

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Powernet] RP field instrument tamper seals

I have a question regarding tamper resistant seals for calibration on RP 
meters.  A QA audit made a SFR (supplier finding report) at an instrument 
calibration facility stating vendor should be placing these seals on our RP 
meters.

The cited standard is ANSI Z540:1994 Section 11.5, but after some discussion we 
agreed that this only applies to lab standards.  He also cited ISO 17025:2017 
Section 6.4.12 which states "the laboratory shall take practical measures to 
prevent unintended adjustments of equipment from invalidating results."  The 
auditor said that industry interprets this as requiring tamper seals, but also 
said that complying with the ISO standard was a matter of lab certification 
only (not a regulatory requirement).

Does any site require tamper resistant seals on RP field instruments?  YesNo

If yes how do you handle routine battery and/or desiccant replacement?

What do you do if a seal is found broken or missing.  In short, would the event 
be entered into the corrective action system?

Do you rely on your source check and zero check of the instrument to "validate" 
its calibration in lieu of the tamper seal?

Thanks in advance
Tom Meek, CHP



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Re: [Powernet] [EXTERNAL] RP field instrument tamper seals

[Holmes, Stephen J:(GenCo-Nuc) via Powernet]

No, we do not require tamper seals on RP instruments

Stephen J Holmes, CHP
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VanLooven 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Powernet] RP field instrument tamper seals

I have a question regarding tamper resistant seals for calibration on RP 
meters.  A QA audit made a SFR (supplier finding report) at an instrument 
calibration facility stating vendor should be placing these seals on our RP 
meters.

The cited standard is ANSI Z540:1994 Section 11.5, but after some discussion we 
agreed that this only applies to lab standards.  He also cited ISO 17025:2017 
Section 6.4.12 which states "the laboratory shall take practical measures to 
prevent unintended adjustments of equipment from invalidating results."  The 
auditor said that industry interprets this as requiring tamper seals, but also 
said that complying with the ISO standard was a matter of lab certification 
only (not a regulatory requirement).

Does any site require tamper resistant seals on RP field instruments?  YesNo

If yes how do you handle routine battery and/or desiccant replacement?

What do you do if a seal is found broken or missing.  In short, would the event 
be entered into the corrective action system?

Do you rely on your source check and zero check of the instrument to "validate" 
its calibration in lieu of the tamper seal?

Thanks in advance
Tom Meek, CHP

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Re: [Powernet] RP field instrument tamper seals

[Kinmark, Michael L. via Powernet]

Columbia does not currently use tamper seals for those with external pots. 
Seems like any more everything is now adjusted though computer and software 
program.

Sincerely,

Michael Kinmark


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I have a question regarding tamper resistant seals for calibration on RP 
meters.  A QA audit made a SFR (supplier finding report) at an instrument 
calibration facility stating vendor should be placing these seals on our RP 
meters.

The cited standard is ANSI Z540:1994 Section 11.5, but after some discussion we 
agreed that this only applies to lab standards.  He also cited ISO 17025:2017 
Section 6.4.12 which states "the laboratory shall take practical measures to 
prevent unintended adjustments of equipment from invalidating results."  The 
auditor said that industry interprets this as requiring tamper seals, but also 
said that complying with the ISO standard was a matter of lab certification 
only (not a regulatory requirement).

Does any site require tamper resistant seals on RP field instruments?  YesNo

If yes how do you handle routine battery and/or desiccant replacement?

What do you do if a seal is found broken or missing.  In short, would the event 
be entered into the corrective action system?

Do you rely on your source check and zero check of the instrument to "validate" 
its calibration in lieu of the tamper seal?

Thanks in advance
Tom Meek, CHP

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[Powernet] RP field instrument tamper seals

[Tom Meek via Powernet]

I have a question regarding tamper resistant seals for calibration on RP
meters.  A QA audit made a SFR (supplier finding report) at an instrument
calibration facility stating vendor should be placing these seals on our RP
meters.

 

The cited standard is ANSI Z540:1994 Section 11.5, but after some discussion
we agreed that this only applies to lab standards.  He also cited ISO
17025:2017 Section 6.4.12 which states "the laboratory shall take practical
measures to prevent unintended adjustments of equipment from invalidating
results."  The auditor said that industry interprets this as requiring
tamper seals, but also said that complying with the ISO standard was a
matter of lab certification only (not a regulatory requirement).

 

Does any site require tamper resistant seals on RP field instruments?  Yes
No

 

If yes how do you handle routine battery and/or desiccant replacement?

 

What do you do if a seal is found broken or missing.  In short, would the
event be entered into the corrective action system?

 

Do you rely on your source check and zero check of the instrument to
"validate" its calibration in lieu of the tamper seal?

 

Thanks in advance

Tom Meek, CHP

 

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Re: [Powernet] [EXTERNAL] Quick Hit Benchmark – Area TLD/OSL Monitoring

[Sidoti, Marc J via Powernet]

Doug Noble asked me to respond. My responses in Red below.
Please share the results with me when available.
Thank you,
Marc Sidoti
Davis-Besse Radiation Protection Services Supervisor
msid...@firstenergycorp.com
419-321-7573 – Desk
419-265-1053 - Cell

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Subject: Fwd: [EXTERNAL] [Powernet] Quick Hit Benchmark – Area TLD/OSL 
Monitoring

Please respond
Sent from my iPhone

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Cc: "LaFrate, Patrick Joseph" 
mailto:patrick.lafr...@duke-energy.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Powernet] Quick Hit Benchmark – Area TLD/OSL Monitoring
Reply-To: powernet@hpspowernet.org
Questions from Duke Energy on Area TLD/OSL Monitoring:

  1.  At what frequency do you perform Area TLD/OSL monitor changeouts at your 
facility? (e.g., quarterly)

 Quarterly

  1.  What type of device do you use for area monitoring? Please be specific 
(e.g., LiF (Cu, Mg), OSL, etc.)

 Genesis Ultra’s 4 element TLD (3 7LiF:Mg, Cu, P TLD700H] and 1 6LiF:Mg, Cu, P 
[TLD600H])




  1.  Has the number of your area monitoring locations increased or decreased?
We have remained steady since 2011 and are at 65 area TLD’s
Duke Energy answers: 1. quarterly; 2. TLD - LiF, (Mg, Ti); 3. increased.
Thanks in advance. Any input greatly appreciated! I will share results with 
anyone interested.
Sincerely,
Patrick J. LaFrate, CHP
Manager – Radiation Dosimetry & Records
Duke Energy Dosimetry Laboratory
13339 Hagers Ferry Road
Applied Science Center; Bldg 7405 MC: MG03A2
Huntersville, NC 28078
980-875-3204
919-802-5716 (cell)


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[Sidoti, Marc J via Powernet]

Please add us to the Email Distribution List.

Tylor Whitmer - 
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Thank you,
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