Re: [PPIBelgia] Konfirmasi kehadiran untuk acara tanggal 4 Juli 2009
Hallo Utong dan rekan2 lain, Maaf saya tidak bisa datang karena ada di Indonesia saat itu. Salam, Wina From: Furqon Azis uton...@yahoo.com To: PPIBelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:23:23 PM Subject: [PPIBelgia] Konfirmasi kehadiran untuk acara tanggal 4 Juli 2009 Kepada rekan-rekan PPI-Belgia Yth, Di mohon dengan sangat kesediaannya untuk menghadiri acara diskusi dengan tema Sistem Pendidikan di Indonesia dan di Belgia. Hasil kerja sama KBRI Belgia dengan PPI-Belgia yang akan dilaksanakan di KBRI Tervuren tanggal 4 Juli 2009. Konfirmasi kehadiran rekan-rekan semua sangat ditunggu, lebih cepat konfirmasi lebih baik. Dengan mengisi titik-titik dibawah ini berdasarkan domisili nya Antwerp : Bagus, Yoga, . . Brussels : Pak Abas, Utong , . Gent : Hasselt : . Leuveun : Roil dan Istri, Dani, Wassalam -Utong-
Re: [PPIBelgia] Acara ngumpul di Antwerp
Halo Bagus/Dendi, Saya datang. Sampai sabtu :) Wina - Brussel From: dendi ramdani dendiramd...@yahoo.com To: PPI Belgia ppibelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:19:18 PM Subject: [PPIBelgia] Acara ngumpul di Antwerp Dear teman-teman, Setelah melewati masa-masa ketidakpastian, akhirnya diputuskan acara ngumpul-ngumpul di Antwerp jadi dilaksanakan. Acara di rumah Bagus di Lange Sint-Annastraat no 3, 2000 Antwerpen. (Jalan kaki sekitar 10 menit dari St. Antwerpen), hariSabtu, tanggal 20 Juni 2009, jam 11.00 - selesai. Silahkan mengkonfirmasi melalui milis ini siapa diantara teman-teman yang akan datang. Konfirmasi ini sangat penting untuk menyediakan jumlah makanan, minuman, piring, sendok dsb... Salam, Bagus (0486 889 956) Dendi (0488 351 588)
[PPIBelgia] Fw: Call for applications for 6 PhD researchers (Brussels)
FYI From:Laïla Macharis [mailto:laila.macha...@vub.ac.be] Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:50 AM To: Laïla Macharis Subject: Call for applications for 6 PhD researchers (Brussels) The Institute for European Studies (IES) at the Vrije Universiteit Brussel (VUB) calls for applications for six full-time doctoral researchers. The IES is a Jean Monnet Centre of Excellence whose research strategy focuses on the EU in an international setting. The six PhD positions relate to: * Migration, Asylum Diversity, as well as Information Society (one researcher each); * A new joint research project of the IES and the Department of Political Science at the VUB on “Politics beyond the State: Representation, Coordination and Accountability in Multi-Layered Settings” (three researchers, one of which is to work at the Department of Political Science); * A research project on European and international governance through regulatory complexes in the area of genetic resources (access and benefit sharing; funded by the Flemish Research Council FWO) (one researcher). * The successful candidates will have an MA degree with good study results. They will be fluent in English and have a thorough knowledge of European policy and/or law. They will be selected on the basis of the quality of the project proposal and on the basis of their expertise and qualifications. * Candidates will need to fill in and send the forms that are available from the website of the IES (www.ies.be http://www.ies.be ) (either in MSWord format, or in PDF format) and send a full CV, a list of publications, an outline of their proposed research (max. 10 pages!), at least one letter of reference and a copy of their most recent diploma. * Successful candidates are expected to base themselves in Brussels and work at the IES/the VUB. * The deadline for applications is: 07 June 2008 (for posts to be taken up as of 1 October or as early as possible thereafter). * The successful candidates will receive a research grant for one year (extendable to a maximum of 4 years). Prolongation of the contract is subject to the agreement of the doctoral committee. Remuneration is at the level of a full time research assistant at a Flemish university (i.e. approx. € 1.600,00 net per month) and includes contributions for social security / insurance. Employment is on a full-time basis only, and secondary employment is not allowed. * Applications need to be addressed to the Academic Director of the Institute for European Studies (address below) before 07 June. For more information regarding this call for applications and the related research projects see www.ies.be/iesvacancies Institute for European Studies, Vrije Universiteit Brussel Academic Director Pleinlaan 2, B-1050 Brussel (Belgium) Fax: +32 2 629 1809 Email:i...@vub.ac.be Laïla Macharis | Management Assistant __ Institute for European Studies Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 (office: Pleinlaan 15, 5th floor) 1050 Brussels Belgium p.+32 (0) 2 629 18 07 f. +32 (0) 2 629 18 09 e. laila.macha...@vub.ac.be http://www.ies.be
Re: [PPIBelgia] PPI gathering?
Hi Utong, Sorry baru balik Belgia, iya besok aku juga ngga bisa, sabtu minggu depan kayaknya lebih baik.. From: Furqon Azis uton...@yahoo.com To: PPIBelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:41:17 AM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] PPI gathering? Yuph, ide yang bagus (Bagusco dah balik k Belgia lom ya) gmana rekan PPI-Brussel? (Herman, Vidy, Cintya, Satria, Wina) and rekan dari KBRI (Herbhayu, Iwan NH, etc) -utong- From: wahyudiAgung agung...@yahoo. com To: ppibel...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:33:12 AM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] PPI gathering? wah ide bagus oka tuh mas jadi makan siang ama makan malem udah terjamin (otak mhs mode on) tp bebas sih, klo yg pada banyak bisa-nya adlh sabtu ini, ya boleehhh klo mo digabung dengan sabtu depannya, ya monggoo,,, AGUNG WAHYUDI --- From: Setio Pramono hafidz...@yahoo. com To: ppibel...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:30:47 AM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] PPI gathering? Hallo Utong, sory kita minggu ini blm bisa datang bagaimana kalo sabtu depan aja, malemnya bisa sekalian pengajian KPMI? Salam tio From: Furqon Azis uton...@yahoo. com To: ppibel...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:18:09 AM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] PPI gathering? Rencana nya sih besok siang di taman VUB Etterbeck (mudah-mudahan besok g ujan) tapi ampe sekarang baru neng QQ doank yang confirm hiks jd gmana teman teman PPI-Belgia? apakah di undur ajah? dah bosen ma Brussel ya -utong- From: Herbhayu AN herbh...@kbri- brussel.org To: ppibel...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:06:46 AM Subject: RE: [PPIBelgia] PPI gathering? O ya? Kapan Ki? Bayu. From:ppibel...@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:PPIBelgia@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of rezki amalia Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:07 PM To: ppibel...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: [PPIBelgia] PPI gathering? Assalamu alaikum wr. wb,,, cuman mau konfirmasi aja,,, PPI gathering di brussel jadi ngga yah?? maaf, mungkin saya yang ngga ngeh,,, wassalam
Re: [PPIBelgia] Not only for Christian - Mohon Perhatian
Sdri Maria, Terima kasih untuk emailnya tapi tolong untuk diperhatikan bahwa mailing list ini diperuntukkan untuk komunikasi para ex/calon atau pelajar indonesia di Belgia atau yang punya ketertarikan dengan studi di Belgia. Dan diharapkan bahwa isi dari pesan2 yan beredar adalah yang ada kaitannya dengan hal2 tersebut dan aktivitas2 berhubungan dengan indonesia yang terjadi di Belgia, juga kejadian2 yang terjadi di Indonesia yang patut kita ketahui. Untuk itu email sejenis ini mohon tidak dikirimkan ke melis ini, saya tidak menentang isi email anda (saya sendiri seorang Kristen) tapi mohon diperhatikan aturan main di melis ini. Terima kasih, Dawina (salah satu moderator) --- On Mon, 12/15/08, maria francisca c15...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: maria francisca c15...@yahoo.co.id Subject: [PPIBelgia] Not only for Christian To: ppibelgia@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 12:20 PM IF SOMEONE HAD A GUN HELD IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE AND ASKED YOU IF YOU BELIEVED IN GOD, WHAT WOULD YOU DO? SAY NO AND FEEL ASHAMED THE REST OF YOUR LIFE? OR SAY YES, I DO, AND DIE STANDING UP FOR GOD? If you would say no, DELETE THIS E-MAIL , NOW. IF YOU WOULD SAY YES, AND STAND UP FOR JESUS CHRIST, PLEASE READ THIS AND PASS ON. Note: This is a true article that was printed in a southern newspaper less then a year ago TAKE A DEEP BREATH BEFORE READING THIS There was an atheist couple who had a child. The couple never told their daughter anything about the Lord. One night when the little girl was 5 years old, the parents fought with each other and the dad shot the Mom, right in front of the child. Then, the dad shot himself. The little girl watched it all. She then was sent to a foster home. The foster mother was a Christian and took the child to church. On the first day of Sunday School, the foster mother told the teacher that the girl had never heard of Jesus, and to have patience with her. The teacher held up a picture of Jesus and said, 'Does anyone know who this is?' The little girl said, 'I do, that's the man who was holding me the night my parents died.' If you believe this little girl is telling the truth that even though she had never heard of Jesus, he still held her the night her parents died, then you will forward this to as many people as you can. Or you can delete it as if it never touched your heart. Funny, isn't it? Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided they do not have to believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says. (Or is it scary?) Funny how someone can say 'I believe in God' but still follow Satan (who, by the way, also 'believes' in God). Funny how you can send a thousand 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely through cyberspace, but the public discussion of Jesus is suppressed in the school and workplace. Funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it to them. Funny how we can go to church for Christ on Sunday, but be an invisible Christian the rest of the week. (Are you laughing?) Funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of me than what God thinks of me. (Are you thinking?) Pass this on only if you mean it.. Yes, I do Love God!
Re: [PPIBelgia] Ngumpul yuq
Belum telat daftar khan ? ikutan ngumpul yaaa, nanti bawa softdrinks.. Yang dari Brussel, berangkat bareng yaa... mo ambil kereta jam berapa dan di statiun mana ? Thanks. Wina From: Furqon Azis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PPIBelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 1:21:14 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Ngumpul yuq Sori g kesebut, ya di undang atuh btw Louvain-La-Neuve tuh deket Brussel ato deket Leuven? ato jauh dengan keduanya utong From: dora sihotang dorasihotang@ yahoo.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:40:31 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Ngumpul yuq PPI Louvain-La-Neuve diundang gak ya? dora --- On Fri, 12/5/08, Setio Pramono [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Setio Pramono [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Ngumpul yuq To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 5:23 PM Terima kasih Kang Utong, acara ini sebenernya inisiatif Mas Bagus, Abang Herman sama Kang Utong, Insya Allah apartemen kami bisa menjadi tempat berkumpul2nya. .. dengan senang hati. Untuk ke sini, tinggal turun di Station Hasselt, dan setelah itu jalan 5 menit sampai dirumah kita... Janjian saja nanti aku jemput di station. Kambing g ada sptnya agung, bsk senin aja ke KBRI kan ada kambing guling tuh di halal bil halalnya Idul Adha. Salam, Tio From: Furqon Azis [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Cc: Setio Pramono [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 5:54:01 PM Subject: [PPIBelgia] Ngumpul yuq Dear teman-teman PPI Belgia, Ngumpul rame-rame yuq skalian masak n makan bareng tentunya Kebetulan rekan kita dari PPI Haselt, Kang Tio dan keluarga mengundang kita PPI Antwerp, Brussel, Ghent dan Leuven untuk bersilaturahmi di rumah beliau dengan alamat di De Schiervellaan 35/2, Hasselt pada hari minggu tanggal 14 Desember 2009 pukul 10 pagi waktu Belgia bagian Hasselt. Gmana? untuk yang berkenan hadir, silahkan di reply email ini dengan mengisi : Nama : PPI : Antwerp/Brussel/ Ghent/Hasselt/ Leuven Wassalam --utong--
Re: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal
Hi Vdy, Gue seringnya di gedung D..ini no g, 0484-119196, sms no-mu ya cu then.. - Original Message From: Fiddy Prasetiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PPIBelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:16:41 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal Halo mba Wina, Salam knal jg! saya Vdy..VUB jg 1st year ECOMAMA hayu atuh kpn2 kumpul d kampus..emg kul-nya seringnya d gdung mana? minta no atuh? Regards, Vdy --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Dawina [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Dawina [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:55 PM halo semua, Ini Wina, kuliah di VUB ambil politik.. kayaknya ada beberapa di VUB ya (dan tetangga ULB), yuk kapan2 ngumpul di kampus.. - Original Message From: rezki amalia amalia_rezki@ yahoo.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:46:10 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal Salam kenal juga ya mas herman,,, kapan2 ngumpul2 di gent yukkk ngomong2, bhs perancisnya 'ngurusin uang receh' itu keren banget yah,,, hihihi - Original Message From: Herman herman_s_yasin@ yahoo.com To: PPI Belgia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:32:58 AM Subject: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal Pengen ikutan memperkenalkan diri juga dong: Herman Syofiri Yasin Universite Libre de Bruxelles (katanya Utong sih musuhnya VUB :-)) - Solvay Business School European Master Program - Master Complementaire Conjoint en Microfinance (ngurusin uang receh) Baru sebulan (lebih sehari) di Brussels, program hanya 1 tahun - insya Allah sampai Sep/Okt tahun depan Salam, Herman rue de l'Ourthe no. 26 1080 Bruxelles +32 475 30 69 65
Re: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal
halo semua, Ini Wina, kuliah di VUB ambil politik.. kayaknya ada beberapa di VUB ya (dan tetangga ULB), yuk kapan2 ngumpul di kampus.. - Original Message From: rezki amalia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PPIBelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 8:46:10 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal Salam kenal juga ya mas herman,,, kapan2 ngumpul2 di gent yukkk ngomong2, bhs perancisnya 'ngurusin uang receh' itu keren banget yah,,, hihihi - Original Message From: Herman herman_s_yasin@ yahoo.com To: PPI Belgia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:32:58 AM Subject: [PPIBelgia] Salam kenal Pengen ikutan memperkenalkan diri juga dong: Herman Syofiri Yasin Universite Libre de Bruxelles (katanya Utong sih musuhnya VUB :-)) - Solvay Business School European Master Program - Master Complementaire Conjoint en Microfinance (ngurusin uang receh) Baru sebulan (lebih sehari) di Brussels, program hanya 1 tahun - insya Allah sampai Sep/Okt tahun depan Salam, Herman rue de l'Ourthe no. 26 1080 Bruxelles +32 475 30 69 65
Re: [PPIBelgia] Fw: Idul Fitri 1429H dan Halal Bihalal
Halo semua, Mau mengucapkan selamat hari raya Idul Fitri, Minal aidin walfaidzin, mohon maaf lahir dan batin... buat seluruh teman2 yang merayakannya di hari yang indah ini :-) Pengennya sih mau ngucapin langsung tadi siang untuk yang datang ke kediaman pak Duta, tapi ternyata ngga bisa datang, kuliah sampai malam dan susah ditinggal..:( Mas Tio, Renar (kl udah gabung) dan teman2 lain semoga kita bisa ketemu /'kopi darat' dilain waktu ya...:-) Salam, Wina - Original Message From: Setio Pramono [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PPIBelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:04:30 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Fw: Idul Fitri 1429H dan Halal Bihalal Thanks bagus, aku dah di brussels skrg, bsk aku tunggu temen2 yg mo ke kbri di central station sampe jam 8.30 (semoga bisa bangun pagi he2)... Buat Dora anyone can come kok..dont worry, wina kamu dateng kan? Salam. Tio - Original Message From: bagusco [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:22:33 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] Fw: Idul Fitri 1429H dan Halal Bihalal teman-teman, kalau ada yang mau ke kedutaan besok pagi, ada titipan pesan dari Tio nih. Kumpul aja di stasiun centraal brussel jam 8:30, nanti berangkat bareng ke kedutaan. Ini telp-nya Tio: +32 486 93 34 91 thx. Mohon maaf lahir batin salam, bagusco http://bagusco. wordpress. com
Re: [PPIBelgia] [Tanya] Invitation Letter
Dendi, Biasanya kita harus ke Gemeente isi formulir yang namanya: Verbintenis Tot Tenlasteneming (Bijlage 3 bis) untuk ditanda tangan oleh Bugemeester. ada juga di infonya dlm bhs bld http://www.diplomatie.be/nl/travel/visa/visumFicheDetail.asp?TEXTID=43121 - Original Message From: dendi ramdani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PPI Belgia ppibelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:27:38 PM Subject: [PPIBelgia] [Tanya] Invitation Letter Halo Teman-teman, Numpang tanya kalau ada teman atau keluarga yang mau berkunjung ke Belgia, menurut website kedutaan Belgia, perlu invitation letter dari kita. Dimana dan bagaimana ya mendapatkan surat ini? dan istilah belandanya apa? trimkasih, dendi
Re: [PPIBelgia] [Tanya] Invitation Letter
Dendi, Yang lampirkan Tio itu surat undangan, disertakan juga, saya juga pakai sejenis itu waktu orang tua datang. Jika kedatangan keluarga dijamin finansial oleh yang mengundang (atau boleh orang lain), yang menjamin minta surat pernyataan 'verbintenis tot tenlasteneming (bijlage 3bis)' tadi, dikelurkan oleh gemeente. Setelah dikeluarkan oleh gemeente, dikirim bersama kopi gaji 3 bulan terakhir dan kopi KTP belgia si penjamin. Itu pengalaman saya ya, kalo bisa yang seperti Tio itu enak juga, lebih muda. Untuk minta formulir tinggal bawa KTP belgia, bisa juga kopi gaji/kontrak PHD dibawa, siapa tahu ditanya.. Salam, Dawina - Original Message From: dendi ramdani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PPIBelgia@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 3:22:20 PM Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] [Tanya] Invitation Letter Dawina Tio, Trimakasih atas informasinya. Tio, format surat yg dikasih seolah tulisan kita sendiri kah? bukankah surat standar dari Gemente, dan mereka membubuhkan tanda tangan juga? Oh ya, Dawina. Kalau kita ke Gementee, dokumen apa saja yang perlu kita bawa? misalnya paspor kita, verbiljf kita? atau..? salam, dendi --- On Fri, 8/15/08, Setio Pramono [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: Setio Pramono [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [PPIBelgia] [Tanya] Invitation Letter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 8:13 PM Hi Dendi, Alhamdulillah bulan lalu ortuku dr jkt kesini dan berikut contoh surat invitation yg aku gumanakan, ini surat hasil copy dari temen juga bukan dari site atau gementee,, Semoga lancar Tio - Original Message From: dendi ramdani dendiramdani@ yahoo.com To: PPI Belgia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:27:38 PM Subject: [PPIBelgia] [Tanya] Invitation Letter Halo Teman-teman, Numpang tanya kalau ada teman atau keluarga yang mau berkunjung ke Belgia, menurut website kedutaan Belgia, perlu invitation letter dari kita. Dimana dan bagaimana ya mendapatkan surat ini? dan istilah belandanya apa? trimkasih, dendi
Re: [PPIBelgia] cari partner bisnis online
Halo, Untuk harga segitu sih ngga komersil (sekitar lebih 50cent euro), itu malah harga 'membantu' dibanding dengan waktu dan energi yang terbuang dengan mencari data2 tsb (sebagai perbandingan upah minimun standard disini sek 8 euro/jam) dan mencari data2 yang tepat paling tidak harus alokasi waktu satu jam. Mungkin harus fleksibel juga kalo ada yang benar2 tidak bisa bayar ya harus tetap dibantu (discon/gratis). Saya cukup tertarik, tapi bisa dijelaskan lebih detail ? (cara penawaran, target wilayah, syarat (sewaktu2bisa nolak/tidak) dll) boleh via japri saja Dawina roffi grandiosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saya setuju dengan konsep universitas yang berlangganan, sebetulnya sudah mulai dikembangkan termasuk di Unpad sendiri, kita mulai berlangganan jurnal dengan biaya mahal seperti Agricola, jurnal kedokteran ekonomi, tapi tidak semua fakultas bisa diakomodasi.Jangka panjangnya memang kita berlangganan semakin banyak jurnal. sebagai bahan diskusi... berbicara copyright... you download file, I request from you, I copy from you for free, kedua duanya melanggar copyright? Roffi Ugent Alumni 07 wahyudiAgung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sedikit sharing tentang akses jurnal internasional yang sangat2 terbatas di Univ2 di Indo. Dulu di milist lain yg saya ikuti (planner abroad) mereka bersepakat. jangka pendek. membentuk forum yang digunakan sbg media sharing knowledge, atau ide. atau memberikan link untuk menggunakan mesin pencari seperti google scholar. Tidak ada distribusi jurnal dalam forum ini, kecuali yang memang sudah dilepas copyright nya. jangka menengah. membawa seluruh jurnal2 dalam bentuk hardcopy untuk disumbangkan ke perpustakaan ketika pulang nanti. Dan ini reguler dilakukan, karena setiap tahun, ada yang pulang. Jangka panjang, berlangganan. Sejauh ini di itb, hanya dosen yg memiliki akses jurnal, diharapkan kedepannya, mhs jg bisa mengakses. Kita harus menghormati copyright tanpa ketinggalan pengetahuan. Karena suatu saat kita jg akan minta orang menghormati hasil karya kita. Utk saya pribadi, jika, ada yg butuh diskusi ttg urban planning, gis, soil science, agriculture, atau spatial problem yg lain, bisa kirim email ke saya, dan dengan senang hati saya akan jawab,,, roffi grandiosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bioxplorer isinya barang bajakan tuh.. tapi boleh juga lah.. thanks for the info.. banyak yg bermanfaat sekali disana.. maklum ga mampu beli bukunya.. thx tio for the link between -00-00 and -99-99 between -00-00 and -99-99 between -00-00 and -99-99 hr size=1Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. a href=http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Try it now./a