RE: January Stats?
My view is that ProFox OT wasn't alone, but one of *many* online communities worked by propagandists in an organized and concerted effort to sucker America and Britain into supporting war in the Middle East. It wasn't by chance that critics were heckled or that all of the clever bullshit lines our rulers could dream up was repeatedly pushed through the pipelines and onto our screens. Sprinkled over and masking that problem was another, perhaps by chance: a flood of useless, purposeless chatter from a very few people with, to put it nicely have way too much time on their hands. Ed's determination not to squelch free speech, laudable, doesn't have a mechanic vote out speaking rights for even the worst such case. These factors led to a decline in participation by more thoughtful, educated, experienced people who value their time and wouldn't surrender it to fools. The nature of an online group or organization was brought into a different light for me recently. Watching a PBS show on the digital age, the segment about Second Life included a walkabout in a large IBM office complex in Westchester NY. Just about all of the offices were empty because people are either working from home and on the road, and nowadays conduct most of their communications online, Second Life style, with virtual meetings and avatars. They say it works. Not without it's implications and consequences, the purpose of the show, but revealing and intriguing, if not compelling, nonetheless. Suggestions: 1. Ed should have a (PO box) address where members who are willing and able can contribute $ 100 a year. His time and effort should be rewarded. 2. Eventually move the group to something like Second Life in the cloud. I'd imagine there are logs for people who can't attend in real time. I was going to add that there should be a differentiation between speakers and listeners, or some way to throttle or mute attention-diverting nonsense other then individual filters, because the detriment is at the group level - but it's possible that such a mechanic is implicit in a 'virtual room' context. What are the odds that a mindless chatterbox will ante up $100 to join a virtual group, walk into it's room, sputter nonsense repeatedly, and not get booed off the stage? Bill OT was much nicer back in the days before it became necessary to segregate the OT. Well, of course - that was the main reason we had to segregate OT. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5491c3bbae28431f88d2675b10dbd...@bills ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: NF Where Options Do I Have with VFP For Multiple Language
Grigore, Thanks for your input. I see what you're saying, that a dynamic translation mechanic woven into your framework is better then a post-processor to translate text from a source to a target language. I see you've worked this out and it's in your framework, and I certainly can't critize that. I'm just wondering and exploring possibilites before committing to any approach. When there are customers willing to put good money on the table for a different language translation is around the time I'll actually do something. One thing I like about the post-build approach it that it would mean (hopefully) fewer changes to the existing application code. I'm thinking dynamically generated messages are the hardest case, but for the most part it's replacing labels, command buttons, messageboxes and the like, which can be done by a translator, tables, and a tool for the translator to use to see and change the results on-screen as a separate process. I do agree with the table driven approach, but I'm thinking it might be possible to apply the translations as an automated series of changes on a copy of the libraries made after the primary build - all automated, of course. This seems to have more appeal to me then modifying lots of lines of code, and whatever implications this extra consideration may have on the English language (main audience today) development system. May be less then perfect results, but I don't expect a huge volume of overseas sales either. Bill Here is what I did. I'm not saying it's better or worse, it's just the way I did it. There is no need for separate builds for each language. First of all, the application needs to read the default language upon startup. Each language dictionary is stored in a separate table, containing two columns: StringId (primary key) and Translation (Memo / Text). All the dictionary tables have the same number of rows and the same content in StringId. A typical string Id looks like this: CancelWithHotkey and the corresponding memo field contains \Cancel. In other words, the English language is considered to be a translation as well. The application requests CancelWithHotkey string and the MessagingMgr provides the string localized in whatever language is currently selected. I'll come back to this later. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ff030469c345400ca7d3a1f04ed10...@bills ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: January Stats?
Bill Arnold wrote: differentiation between speakers and listeners, or some way to throttle or mute attention-diverting nonsense other then individual filters, because the detriment is at the group level - but it's possible that such a mechanic is implicit in a 'virtual room' context. What are the odds that a mindless chatterbox will ante up $100 to join a virtual group, walk into it's room, sputter nonsense repeatedly, and not get booed off the stage? Hi Bill, How did you do on that poll? The one about booting our buddy off the list? What did you get, four total votes, one agreeing with you? I suggest a third category. In addition to the two you mentioned we could add brownshirts. OT was much nicer back in the days before it became necessary to segregate the OT. Well, of course - that was the main reason we had to segregate OT. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6aa195.3030...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Given a software product's price, how would you calculate asubscription fee alternative?
Malcolm, Looking for feedback on how to come up with a subscription based pricing option for a traditionally priced piece of software. Some rambling ... I regard database software products as necessarily subscription sales. As opposed to games and software products that can be versioned, even language products like VFP. Database systems are unique in that they amount to their own worlds that are in a constant state of change. Not exactly living things, but close, and they need care and feeding, and if unattended will eventually die (I'm not talking about VFP the language, but business applications created with it. Mature is okay for languages, but ongoing businesses need growth and flexability). Additionally, it's possible that even a tiny code or data mistake (or attack!) can have great consequences. In this context, an ongoing connection between users and maintainers of the program really is a necessary, even if the customer doesn't realize it at the time of purchase. As it happens, I have 2 cases that are straining this belief today, customers who have purchased the product, with 1 year support, and since have declined to pay the annual maintenance. They're both into their 3rd year now, which is nice from one point of view, but it has to be just a matter of time before something bad happens and they need help with some problem or the other - at which time they will be told they need to get back on the maintenance plan, and that we can't help them unless they do. They may not be happy to hear this, but we're up front with how it works, and this example is cited as what we don't want to happen. I'm also very much against offering an hourly developer rate, and I actively discourage such activities, because developers should be focused on tasks useful to all customers, and side projects eat precious dev time. Pricing is an issue I've probably spent more time going over then any other. I recall Borland's success with breaking the price barrier with Turbo Pascal (which I bought on a whim at that price), but I've also seen Prodigy near-collapse over offering free support with a cheap monthly membership. I started only knowing the answer is somewhere between these extremes. What I wound up doing was getting a feel for the pricing of competive products and then studying scenarios using Excel to project sales and expenses with the set of variables defined at the top of the sheet so I could change each to see the effect on the worksheet/chart below. I wanted a price that would be as low as possible, but still profitable. Reasoning: - there are small businesses (our target customer) out there who are really struggling and just can't afford the benefits of a useful database program. We know that what we bring so much to their table that we just can't let a relatively small think like initial selling price get in the way. - once they are on board, and treated right and all other things being roughly equal, customers tend to stay, and that's nice annual income. A complicating factor is that people like options/choices, so I've been working on a build menu, like Tiger Direct uses, to let customers build their own product, selecting from a list of optional components and sending their order to a build machine, which receives and fulfills the order, all automatically. Trouble here is that this is yet another dev task, and I just can't keep investing without building up sales first, so for now I've on giving 2 choices, between a Basic and Professional versions, one with a selected subset of features and (read only) bulletin-board support, and the other with all of the features and live support, i.e. the 2 ends of the spectrum, but primarily focused on whether live support is involved or not. Bill Even though our product is not a hosted service (yet), we have several pilot customers asking us about an option to pay for our software on a subscription vs. up-front basis. For purposes of this discussion, given a software product priced at $1495/seat plus 20% year support and maintenance (after the first year), what would you consider a fair monthly fee for a pay-as-you-go (no contract) monthly subscription and what is the justification behind your pricing model? My initial thoughts: A monthly subscription fee that's between 6.5% to 10% of the retail price. Using the above example, a monthly subscription price would be between $99.95 and $149.95 with a break even period between 10-15 months. Anyone have any better ideas or reference to a scientific way to approach this question? Thanks! Malcolm --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:
VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Client has copied my app from his old WinXP box onto his Win7 64-bit box and can't get it to run. I put the runtimes in the app folder, so he's been able in the past to just copy the folder onto other (WinXP) machines are run it. On this machine, it's now running from c:\program files (x86)\mb software solutions folder. Should he not used that folder? I thought that x86 folder was the place for 32-bit apps. Please advise...tia! -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6ac615.3030...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Mike, I don't have Win/7 to test with, so just some guesses Do have any code references whatsoever (such as using macro substitution instead of a name expression when referencing a FQFN) that could be choking on spaces in file names (or has that issue already been resolved by prior use of ms software solutions as a folder name)? Does your install include any registry changes or Windows system components at all that may have existed on prior target XP machine transfers that haven't been made on this machine? Any other dependencies that may not exist on the Win 7 machine? What's the exact failure message? Bill Client has copied my app from his old WinXP box onto his Win7 64-bit box and can't get it to run. I put the runtimes in the app folder, so he's been able in the past to just copy the folder onto other (WinXP) machines are run it. On this machine, it's now running from c:\program files (x86)\mb software solutions folder. Should he not used that folder? I thought that x86 folder was the place for 32-bit apps. Please advise...tia! -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bacbd735f33448d2b4f6ca48ccb8e...@bills ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Mike, Also, that's a folder that will virtualize any file changes. Tracy Bill Arnold wrote: Mike, I don't have Win/7 to test with, so just some guesses Do have any code references whatsoever (such as using macro substitution instead of a name expression when referencing a FQFN) that could be choking on spaces in file names (or has that issue already been resolved by prior use of ms software solutions as a folder name)? Does your install include any registry changes or Windows system components at all that may have existed on prior target XP machine transfers that haven't been made on this machine? Any other dependencies that may not exist on the Win 7 machine? What's the exact failure message? Bill Client has copied my app from his old WinXP box onto his Win7 64-bit box and can't get it to run. I put the runtimes in the app folder, so he's been able in the past to just copy the folder onto other (WinXP) machines are run it. On this machine, it's now running from c:\program files (x86)\mb software solutions folder. Should he not used that folder? I thought that x86 folder was the place for 32-bit apps. Please advise...tia! -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6aca45.9050...@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Problem with dynamicbackcolor in grid
Guys,
I am stuck. I have run into a problem with
thisform.grid3.columns(1).dynamicbackcolor. I have been working on this on
and off for a month trying various ways to get this working.
Let me see if I can explain this. I have two separate forms on the desktop.
The upper form is the record detail with some buttons that call methods.
The fields are databound to the table but the field is populated from the
button with a replace command. In the lower form I have a grid with 9
columns using several different colors to highlight different stats of the
record. This is a multiuser environment. I have a datamanager for updates.
In the button method that records the time stamp I issue a replace field
with time(). I keep getting update conflicts immediately upon issuing the
replace command if another user has changed the record elsewhere. The
problem is that I don’t even get a chance to call the datamanager
tableupdate command. When I step through the commands the grids
dynamicbackcolor function gets called immediately upon issuing the replace
command.. In the step degguer I see the record number changing going through
each record in the grid.
I have figured out that the dynamicbackcolor gets called immediately when a
replace command is used. In the dynamicbackcolor I have a UDF’s that check a
filed stat and colors the row appropriately. I see that in doing this am
implicit tableupdate command is issued. But i still get update conflicts
even if I issue a tableupdate command one line before the replace command
and it returns .T. If I set a flag to not use the dynamicbackcolor
(default.unitcolors = .f.) then I have no problems.
I have the dynamicbackcolor in the init of the lower form containing the
grid. I have tried putting the routine in the refresh thinking that it
wouldn’t get called until a refresh was issued. But that didn't work either.
I have googled dynamicbackcolor, setall, etc but cannot find any information
on when and how the dynamicbackcolor gets called and how to fix or
workaround this issue.
I sure would appreciate any of you experts enlightening me on this issue.
Thanks!
Alan
*Snippet of code from lower form init:*
thisform.gncurrrec = recno()
*distinguish between txf call by color in first column
IF default.showtxf
thisform.grid3.columns(1).dynamicbackcolor = ;
iif(dispatch.txf,rgb(255,185,255),rgb(255,255,255))
ENDIF
IF default.unitcolors
*thisform.grid3.columns(2).dynamicbackcolor = ;
iif(dispatch.txf,rgb(255,130,255),rgb(255,255,255))
thisform.grid3.columns(1).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.isprinted()
thisform.grid3.columns(5).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(6).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(7).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(8).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(9).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(10).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(11).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(12).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(13).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(14).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
ENDIF
•Column 3,4 is grid highlighter rows
Thisform.grid3.columns(3).Dynamicbackcolor = ;
IIF(recno() = thisform.gncurrrec, RGB(192,248,254) ,RGB(255,255,255))
Thisform.grid3.columns(4).Dynamicbackcolor = ;
IIF(recno() = thisform.gncurrrec, RGB(192,248,254) ,RGB(255,255,255))
*UDF method*:
Parameter nval
nval = dispatch.stat
*OAPP.EXLOG('~GET_GRID~ start unitcolor check. NVAL parm is ' +
TRANSFORM(nval) + ' Recno is ' + TRANSFORM(RECNO()))
Do case
Case nval = 0
Return(rgb(192,192,192))
Case nval = 1
Return(rgb(245,250,165))
Case nval = 2
Return(rgb(225,238,185))
Case nval = 3
Return(rgb(133,249,4))
Case nval = 4
Return(rgb(252,210,154))
Case nval = 5
Return(rgb(189,225,201))
Case nval = 6
Return(rgb(152,249,254))
Case nval = 7
Return(rgb(163,201,243))
Case nval = 8
*Return(rgb(250,156,196))
return(rgb(255,197,221))
Case nval = 9
Return(rgb(224,200,167))
Case nval = 10
*Return(rgb(255,136,202))
return(rgb(255,255,255))
Otherwise
Return(rgb(192,192,192))
Endcase
Return(rgb(192,192,192))
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Problem with dynamicbackcolor in grid
I sent this last night but hasn't shown up yet. Sorry if reposted.
Guys,
I am stuck. I have run into a problem with thisform.grid3.columns(1).
dynamicbackcolor. I have been working on this on and off for a month
trying various ways to get this working.
Let me see if I can explain this. I have two separate forms on the
desktop. The upper form is the record detail with some buttons that
call methods. The fields are databound to the table but the field is
populated from the button with a replace command. In the lower form I
have a grid with 9 columns using several different colors to highlight
different stats of the record. This is a multiuser environment. I have
a datamanager for updates.
In the button method that records the time stamp I issue a replace
field with time(). I keep getting update conflicts immediately upon
issuing the replace command if another user has changed the record
elsewhere. The problem is that I don’t even get a chance to call the
datamanager tableupdate command. When I step through the commands the
grids dynamicbackcolor function gets called immediately upon issuing
the replace command.. In the step degguer I see the record number
changing going through each record in the grid.
I have figured out that the dynamicbackcolor gets called immediately
when a replace command is used. In the dynamicbackcolor I have a UDF’s
that check a filed stat and colors the row appropriately. I see that
in doing this am implicit tableupdate command is issued. But i still
get update conflicts even if I issue a tableupdate command one line
before the replace command and it returns .T. If I set a flag to not
use the dynamicbackcolor (default.unitcolors = .f.) then I have no
problems.
I have the dynamicbackcolor in the init of the lower form containing
the grid. I have tried putting the routine in the refresh thinking
that it wouldn’t get called until a refresh was issued. But that
didn't work either. I have googled dynamicbackcolor, setall, etc but
cannot find any information on when and how the dynamicbackcolor gets
called and how to fix or workaround this issue.
I sure would appreciate any of you experts enlightening me on this issue.
Thanks!
Alan
Snippet of code from lower form init:
thisform.gncurrrec = recno()
*distinguish between txf call by color in first column
IF default.showtxf
thisform.grid3.columns(1).dynamicbackcolor = ;
iif(dispatch.txf,rgb(255,185,255),rgb(255,255,255))
ENDIF
IF default.unitcolors
*thisform.grid3.columns(2).dynamicbackcolor = ;
iif(dispatch.txf,rgb(255,130,255),rgb(255,255,255))
thisform.grid3.columns(1).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.isprinted()
thisform.grid3.columns(5).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(6).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(7).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(8).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(9).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(10).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(11).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(12).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(13).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
thisform.grid3.columns(14).dynamicbackcolor = thisform.unitckcolor()
ENDIF
•Column 3,4 is grid highlighter rows
Thisform.grid3.columns(3).Dynamicbackcolor = ;
IIF(recno() = thisform.gncurrrec, RGB(192,248,254) ,RGB(255,255,255))
Thisform.grid3.columns(4).Dynamicbackcolor = ;
IIF(recno() = thisform.gncurrrec, RGB(192,248,254) ,RGB(255,255,255))
UDF method:
Parameter nval
nval = dispatch.stat
*OAPP.EXLOG('~GET_GRID~ start unitcolor check. NVAL parm is ' +
TRANSFORM(nval) + ' Recno is ' + TRANSFORM(RECNO()))
Do case
Case nval = 0
Return(rgb(192,192,192))
Case nval = 1
Return(rgb(245,250,165))
Case nval = 2
Return(rgb(225,238,185))
Case nval = 3
Return(rgb(133,249,4))
Case nval = 4
Return(rgb(252,210,154))
Case nval = 5
Return(rgb(189,225,201))
Case nval = 6
Return(rgb(152,249,254))
Case nval = 7
Return(rgb(163,201,243))
Case nval = 8
*Return(rgb(250,156,196))
return(rgb(255,197,221))
Case nval = 9
Return(rgb(224,200,167))
Case nval = 10
*Return(rgb(255,136,202))
return(rgb(255,255,255))
Otherwise
Return(rgb(192,192,192))
Endcase
Return(rgb(192,192,192))
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Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Mike Does the prog try to write any files when it starts up? WIn7/Vista won't normally allow writing to any subfolder of Program Files. We explicitly tell customers not to install under Program Files. On 04/02/2010 13:05, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: Client has copied my app from his old WinXP box onto his Win7 64-bit box and can't get it to run. I put the runtimes in the app folder, so he's been able in the past to just copy the folder onto other (WinXP) machines are run it. On this machine, it's now running from c:\program files (x86)\mb software solutions folder. Should he not used that folder? I thought that x86 folder was the place for 32-bit apps. Please advise...tia! -- Cheers Brian Abbott ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6acee7.6020...@abbott.plus.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Trigonometry Calculator
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Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Mike: You don't mention the application VFP version but guess you need to install/register the runtime libraries not just copy them. Also won't advise to install anything on program files but use other folder on the c: drive. Since I installed Windows 7 noticed that non-windows folders or files tend to disappear after a while if they are placed in program files. Also have 32 bit version installed and maybe you need to do something else in a 64 bit environment. Regards, AiR Aida I. Rivera-Benítez, MSMIS AiR Information Systems, Inc. San Juan, Puerto Rico Client has copied my app from his old WinXP box onto his Win7 64-bit box and can't get it to run. I put the runtimes in the app folder, so he's been able in the past to just copy the folder onto other (WinXP) machines are run it. On this machine, it's now running from c:\program files (x86)\mb software solutions folder. Should he not used that folder? I thought that x86 folder was the place for 32-bit apps. Please advise...tia! -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/27a3630f31634eeea85d21cad7814...@billingpc ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
a...@abac.com wrote: Mike: You don't mention the application VFP version See the subject line of this email: VFP9SP2 app ;-) but guess you need to install/register the runtime libraries not just copy them. Also won't advise to install anything on program files but use other folder on the c: drive. Since I installed Windows 7 noticed that non-windows folders or files tend to disappear after a while if they are placed in program files. ?? I've always installed under Program Files for MBSS apps. Also have 32 bit version installed and maybe you need to do something else in a 64 bit environment. That was the whole point of the question. Thanks for your thoughts. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6ad224.1050...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Tracy Pearson wrote: Mike, Also, that's a folder that will virtualize any file changes. Is that a bad thing? Does that mean the data changes won't be written as usual? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6ad23e@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Brian Abbott wrote: Mike Does the prog try to write any files when it starts up? WIn7/Vista won't normally allow writing to any subfolder of Program Files. We explicitly tell customers not to install under Program Files. Yes, it writes some things like audit information, maybe some INI writes. I'll suggest they move it from PF to something custom off the root. Thanks for the tip. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6ad27e.70...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Trigonometry Calculator
Jean Laeremans wrote: http://www.visualtrig.com/Default.aspx Hi Jean, Dang, that's interesting. Thanks for that. Coming from the human sciences, I didn't even know what trigonometry was for a number of years! -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6ad2ec.4060...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
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RE: Sequence Control # Problem!
Brian - it's a Good point. I actually caught that yesterday when I was
reviewing the code (again - which someone else had written - as I would NEVER
have put that in there like that - as it makes NO SENSE to do!). I also thought
it would break the lock!
As such - I did already comment it out yesterday.
Thanks,
-K-
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:42 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Sequence Control # Problem!
Kurt
Your code:
DO WHILE .NOT. RLOCK()
XL = INKEY(1)
ENDDO
GOTO RECNO()
Not sure why that last line GOTO RECNO() is there? Would it not break
the record lock you've established?
On 03/02/2010 14:54, Kurt Wendt wrote:
Hey folks,
One of the users of our system has recently started having a problem (and
they recently switched from our older DOS based system to the newer VFP based
system - even though the VFP system is still DOS looking with the same color
scheme and fonts). The problem is that they got a duplicate Purchase Order #
and previously a duplicated Invoice #. This has happened like 3 or 4 times
over the past several months. They are getting so desperate and frustrated
with our system (due to other problems as well - but, this problem is a
SERIOUS one - and it makes the system look Very Unreliable) - that they are
ready to demand their money back for the upgrade from the DOS to the
Windows system - and go back to using the DOS system.
I personally looked at the Procedure that generates the Seq Control #'s - and
I didn't really see anything wrong with it - and its small and should run
fast - and doesn't seem like it Should be having this problem. But, its
happening anyway. Of course, we are even considering that it MAY be due to
hardware problems on the client end.
So - here's the deal. We have a Sequence Control file (SeqCtl.dbf) - with a
single record that contains 51 different fields. I just took a closer look at
that file - and some fields are not sequence #'s - but, other info - with
about ½ or more of the field being Sequence #'s.
In the past - another client experienced the problem. And, back then -
someone here implemented a solution of taking out 1 or a couple of the fields
and putting them into a Separate DBF file(but, it was done as a Customization
for that one client). And, this request has now been made for me to do the
same thing - for this current client - but also to our Base system. They want
me to pull out the Purchase Order, Sales Order and Invoice numbers - each to
a separate DBF file. And, that is what I am working on this morning.
But, in the meantime - I was wondering if someone could take a look at the
code below to see if there is any KNOWN VFP issue in the code that would
cause such a problem. Any help would be GREAT appreciated.
TIA,
Kurt
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
* [SEQCTL]
PROCEDURE SEQCTL
PARAMETER PARM
PRIVATE XVAL, XCLOSE, XALIAS
XALIAS = ALIAS()
XCLOSE = .F.
IF .NOT. USED('SEQCTL')
SELECT 0
USE (QDD+'SEQCTL')
XCLOSE = .T.
ENDIF
SELECT SEQCTL
CLEAR TYPEAHEAD
DO WHILE .NOT. RLOCK()
XL = INKEY(1)
ENDDO
GOTO RECNO()
STORE '' TO XZVAL, XVAL
DO CASE
CASE INVOICE $ PARM
XVAL = IIF(PARM100,PARM+1, 10)
XZVAL = ZSTR(XVAL,6)
IF INVOICE = NFINVOICE
REPLACE INVOICE WITH XVAL, NFINVOICE WITH XVAL
ELSE
REPLACEPARM WITH XVAL
ENDIF
CASE PONO = PARM
XVAL = IIF(PARM10,PARM+1, 1)
XZVAL = ZSTR(XVAL,5)
REPLACEPARM WITH XVAL
OTHERWISE
XVAL = IIF(PARM100,PARM+1, 10)
XZVAL = ZSTR(XVAL,6)
REPLACEPARM WITH XVAL
ENDCASE
UNLOCK
FLUSH
IF XCLOSE
USE
ENDIF
IF !EMPTY(XALIAS)
SELECTXALIAS
ENDIF
RETURN(XZVAL)
*-- END SEQCTL --
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OK - now this thread has become completely [OT] territory. And, for folks like me that don't subscribe to the [OT] list - please move [OT] discussions to where they TRULY Belong! TIA, -K- -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:30 AM Bill Arnold wrote: differentiation between speakers and listeners, or some way to throttle or mute attention-diverting nonsense other then individual filters, because the detriment is at the group level - but it's possible that such a mechanic is implicit in a 'virtual room' context. What are the odds that a mindless chatterbox will ante up $100 to join a virtual group, walk into it's room, sputter nonsense repeatedly, and not get booed off the stage? Hi Bill, How did you do on that poll? The one about booting our buddy off the list? What did you get, four total votes, one agreeing with you? I suggest a third category. In addition to the two you mentioned we could add brownshirts. OT was much nicer back in the days before it became necessary to segregate the OT. Well, of course - that was the main reason we had to segregate OT. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a14071a1...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Trigonometry Calculator
Thanks for that link Jean! I think my son will REALLY Enjoy it! Even though he is only 8 years old - just the other day I taught him about the Binary and Hexadecimal counting systems - and he just LOVED Learning how to Add in each of those systems!!! :-) -K- -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:46 AM http://www.visualtrig.com/Default.aspx A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/289ea162f5642645b5cf64d624c66a14071a1...@us-ny-mail-002.waitex.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
1. In reference to installing the runtime libraries and not just copying the files see others agreeing with this. 2. In reference to not copying anything on program files that only applies to Windows versions since Vista and see that almost everyone that answered your message agrees on this point. I was only trying to help you, but be sure will keep my thoughts next time. AiR Aida I. Rivera-Benítez, MSMIS AiR Information Systems, Inc. San Juan, Puerto Rico ?? I've always installed under Program Files for MBSS apps. Also have 32 bit version installed and maybe you need to do something else in a 64 bit environment. That was the whole point of the question. Thanks for your thoughts. Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6901910bcdd94b678709806682df9...@billingpc ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Michael: I have deployed VFP7 and 9 on Vista for customers for some time. I put the runtimes and my apps in a folder: c:\users\public\applications\myapplication where I create the applications folder. No issues at all. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: Client has copied my app from his old WinXP box onto his Win7 64-bit box and can't get it to run. I put the runtimes in the app folder, so he's been able in the past to just copy the folder onto other (WinXP) machines are run it. On this machine, it's now running from c:\program files (x86)\mb software solutions folder. Should he not used that folder? I thought that x86 folder was the place for 32-bit apps. Please advise...tia! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6ae7c2.4010...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
a...@abac.com wrote: 1. In reference to installing the runtime libraries and not just copying the files see others agreeing with this. 2. In reference to not copying anything on program files that only applies to Windows versions since Vista and see that almost everyone that answered your message agrees on this point. I was only trying to help you, but be sure will keep my thoughts next time. I'm sorry, AidaI didn't mean to be a jerk but I can see that I was. Too much shit going on right now. Apologized to the girlfriend...now it's time to apologize to you. ;-) I sincerely do appreciate the help that you and others give in this forum. I hope I'm able to give back as well (and be less of a dooschbag in the process...lol). ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6ae7f0@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Our app is VFP9 SP2. We use our own folder off the drive like Jeff below and have no problems at all. We have never used 'program files' or any of the 'recommended nonsense'We also do not put anything in the registry. - Original Message - From: Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 7:29 AM Subject: Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine Michael: I have deployed VFP7 and 9 on Vista for customers for some time. I put the runtimes and my apps in a folder: c:\users\public\applications\myapplication where I create the applications folder. No issues at all. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: Client has copied my app from his old WinXP box onto his Win7 64-bit box and can't get it to run. I put the runtimes in the app folder, so he's been able in the past to just copy the folder onto other (WinXP) machines are run it. On this machine, it's now running from c:\program files (x86)\mb software solutions folder. Should he not used that folder? I thought that x86 folder was the place for 32-bit apps. Please advise...tia! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/02bb01caa5af$b94754c0$7a00a...@w2k3s02 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Jeff, Michael: I have deployed VFP7 and 9 on Vista for customers for some time. I put the runtimes and my apps in a folder: c:\users\public\applications\myapplication where I create the applications folder. No issues at all. And no spaces in the name. Good to know. Guess I've lucky on this one. For my own reasons, I've been requiring (by convention) customers to install into x:\productname, explaining that it makes documentation easier for everyone to be seeing the same paths and file names, and that in turn will help reduce mistakes. But I know I'm not dealing with corp rules on where to put things. Bill Jeff ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3e64091df44346d399ee7e3077fcc...@bills ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Problem with dynamicbackcolor in grid
Alan, This may be a wild thought, but would it be possible to use bindevents/unbindevents to tame the beast? Bill I sent this last night but hasn't shown up yet. Sorry if reposted. Guys, I am stuck. I have run into a problem with thisform.grid3.columns(1). dynamicbackcolor. I have been working on this on and off for a month trying various ways to get this working. 51cf9y4c43a292f20dc...@mail.gmail.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c7d69162de5f43d69838c844b60f0...@bills ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Postfix mail server to handle iPhones 3GS
It finally dawn on me, after some sleep last night, and a good, hot cup of coffee this morning, that your favorite database admin app would probably be Dabo; since, that's kind of your baby. My hat's off to you, and Ed, for all you have done in developing Dabo. Anyway, I found an article yesterday that explained how to identify a roaming user using their email address. Each email address is unique with a domain name that resolves to a unique IP address, so this could be used to identify an incoming email by have Postfix examine the From header as trusted for relaying. The author did not recommend this solution, because it's not secure, but I could use this method temporarily for a couple of iPhones, until I had the time to implement something more secure, like sasl. Here is what I've done to implement the temporary fix: I create a /etc/postfix/sender_access file with the following content: lela...@mail.smvfp.com OK pe...@mail.smvfp.com OK Then I made the .db file as follows: postmap hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access This created the /etc/postfix/sender_access.db file. Next, I entered the following into my main.cf file: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access Then I restarted postfix: service postfix restart postfix reload I then created an email going to my gmail account, and sent it using my outgoing SMTP server, (eg mail.smvfp.com). The progress bar started, but then stopped, after only moving about 10% of the way. The iPhone continued in this state for some time, after which it reported the email could not be sent and was being placed in the outbox. Any points on why this is not working for me? My gmail account relays fine, but moving my wife's email over to it might be a problem. She currently has over 1,500 email in her INBOX, with lots of picture and video attachments. Over 700 of her INBOX emails have never been read. She claim the unread email is junk/spam, but she refuses to throw them away, (eg delete them). I don't press her on the issue; because, throwing anything away for her is very distrubing. Gmail allows a generous amount of space, but I'm not sure gmail is ready for my wife, Peggy. LOL BTW, does anyone know if it's possible to connect a desktop email client like Thunderbire to a gmail account? http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=24672seqNum=4 Regards, LelandJ On 02/03/2010 07:02 PM, Paul McNett wrote: On 2/3/10 4:07 PM, Leland Jackson wrote: that hold the email users. It kind of hard working with the dbmail database, because there a lots of table and the creator of the system has normalzed everything to the extreme, (eg an email is spread over many tables all normalized), so to see the entire email you need to join many tables together parent/child keys. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for an admin app... Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6aee96.8090...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Postfix mail server to handle iPhones 3GS
Leland BTW, does anyone know if it's possible to connect a desktop email client like Thunderbire to a gmail account? http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=38343 Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6af188.3040...@calcpay.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Hey Bill! Until Vista that is how I did it. c:\myproduct. I heard there might be problems with that and with my work in Linux, the users\public seemed to be a nice home for my apps. I also, use .ini files and have stayed away from the register. Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Bill Arnold wrote: Jeff, Michael: I have deployed VFP7 and 9 on Vista for customers for some time. I put the runtimes and my apps in a folder: c:\users\public\applications\myapplication where I create the applications folder. No issues at all. And no spaces in the name. Good to know. Guess I've lucky on this one. For my own reasons, I've been requiring (by convention) customers to install into x:\productname, explaining that it makes documentation easier for everyone to be seeing the same paths and file names, and that in turn will help reduce mistakes. But I know I'm not dealing with corp rules on where to put things. Bill Jeff [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6af237.7040...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Mike: No problem. Know how it feels when a client is on our back constantly calling and asking for a fix and they want it yesterday! We all understand, we've been there so no need to be so hard on yourself. As for your girlfriend she won't understand, unless she also develops software and deals with clients, so prepare to spend big on Valentine's day ; ) Regards, AiR Aida I. Rivera-Benítez, MSMIS AiR Information Systems, Inc. San Juan, Puerto Rico ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/96069a2fa7984bf1ad624d9bca618...@billingpc ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Postfix mail server to handle iPhones 3GS
Thanks for the link Andrew. I'll look into that, and hope to find that Thunderbird can connect to gmail using imap. I'll check back sometime after lunch. Regards, LelandJ On 02/04/2010 10:10 AM, Andrew Stirling wrote: Leland BTW, does anyone know if it's possible to connect a desktop email client like Thunderbire to a gmail account? http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=38343 Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6af683.6070...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
It means the files which you write to are written to some other folder instead of where you expect it to be. Unless you turn virtualization off in a special configuration header you have to do in the EXE after it's compiled. AND the user is running the EXE as administrator. -Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:57 AM Tracy Pearson wrote: Mike, Also, that's a folder that will virtualize any file changes. Is that a bad thing? Does that mean the data changes won't be written as usual? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000401caa5b8$47661b80$d63252...@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Swiss Guy about Guns
Hi Everybody, http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/754.html -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6afdd1.6030...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Postfix mail server to handle iPhones 3GS
imap http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=77662 Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Leland Jackson wrote: Thanks for the link Andrew. I'll look into that, and hope to find that Thunderbird can connect to gmail using imap. I'll check back sometime after lunch. Regards, LelandJ On 02/04/2010 10:10 AM, Andrew Stirling wrote: Leland BTW, does anyone know if it's possible to connect a desktop email client like Thunderbire to a gmail account? http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=38343 Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6affa1.1070...@calcpay.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
a...@abac.com wrote: As for your girlfriend she won't understand, unless she also develops software and deals with clients, so prepare to spend big on Valentine's day ; ) Yeah, I've got this nice mystic-amethyst ring on layaway...but things have been very rocky lately, and now the Brazilian girlfriend is emailing me, so who knows what the future has in store for me. Ugh. Hate to spend that $$$ on a ring for a girl who's potentially breaking up with me soon. Sometimes being a single guy is far, far easier (...and cheaper). ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b01c8.9090...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Swiss Guy about Guns
Pete Theisen wrote: Hi Everybody, http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/754.html -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b0228.1030...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Postfix mail server to handle iPhones 3GS
On 2/4/10 7:58 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: It finally dawn on me, after some sleep last night, and a good, hot cup of coffee this morning, that your favorite database admin app would probably be Dabo; since, that's kind of your baby. My hat's off to you, and Ed, for all you have done in developing Dabo. The AppWizard does a great job for making quick CRUD apps for single-tables, but you needed a relationship-auto-finder that AppWizard doesn't do, which is why I didn't suggest it. Dabo can certainly handle the normalized structure of that database, but the AppWizard can't quickly make an application based on that normalized structure. Anyway, I found an article yesterday that explained how to identify a roaming user using their email address. Each email address is unique with a domain name that resolves to a unique IP address, so this could be used to identify an incoming email by have Postfix examine the From header as trusted for relaying. How can a roaming user's from be guaranteed to resolve to a unique ip address? If they are in a café, they are likely going over the local wifi where the router uses NAT, so everyone in that café has the same external ip address. Or are you going to automatically trust for relaying all email that purports to be from the stated domain? That opens you up to relaying from everywhere given the sender forges the from address. The author did not recommend this solution, because it's not secure, but I could use this method temporarily for a couple of iPhones, until I had the time to implement something more secure, like sasl. The Air Force skipped encryption on their spy drones for the same reason. BTW, does anyone know if it's possible to connect a desktop email client like Thunderbire to a gmail account? I haven't done it, but in TBird 3 new account I see a 'gmail' option. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b04ad.3030...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Swiss Guy about Guns
At 09:03 2010-02-04, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Everybody, [OT link redacted] I dropped ProFox and went with ProFoxTech because of the garbage in [OT]. Now, it looks to be creeping into ProFoxTech. Ed, could you please do something effective about this? Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/20100204173240.d196524c...@marge.leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Swiss Guy about Guns
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: I dropped ProFox and went with ProFoxTech because of the garbage in [OT]. Now, it looks to be creeping into ProFoxTech. Ed, could you please do something effective about this? Sorry, but this is supposed to be a community of adults. It is up to each individual who posts to make sure that they adhere to the conventions of the community. If there is an occasional post that is not correctly labeled, hit the delete key and move on with your life. If, though, you note an individual who regularly shows no regard for community conventions, I would advise that you take a few minutes and learn how to use filters on your email client. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/245cd198-9833-4469-bf4c-cbf5b9385...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Swiss Guy about Guns
Gene Wirchenko wrote: At 09:03 2010-02-04, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Everybody, [OT link redacted] I dropped ProFox and went with ProFoxTech because of the garbage in [OT]. Now, it looks to be creeping into ProFoxTech. Ed, could you please do something effective about this? Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Hi Gene, It was a mistake. I already corrected it, but since you are on tech you didn't see it. Have you ever made a mistake? At least, one you remember :-) -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b09e1.3010...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Swiss Guy about Guns
At 09:38 2010-02-04, you wrote: On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: I dropped ProFox and went with ProFoxTech because of the garbage in [OT]. Now, it looks to be creeping into ProFoxTech. Ed, could you please do something effective about this? Sorry, but this is supposed to be a community of adults. It is up to each individual who posts to make sure that they adhere to the conventions of the community. But is it? And what happens if someone does not? I and others get to spend our time sifting through the garbage to get what we subscribed to the list for. Free speech at our expense. If there is an occasional post that is not correctly labeled, hit the delete key and move on with your life. If, though, you note an individual who regularly shows no regard for community conventions, I would advise that you take a few minutes and learn how to use filters on your email client. The argument about the delete key is the same argument used years back about spam. Spam is currently up to about 80-90% of all E-mail. I think that the delete and move on approach does not work. I know how to use filters, but tell me: how would you set up a filter for Swiss Guy about Guns before seeing it for the first time? Or do you mean that I should filter out by sender? If it gets that bad in FxoProTech, then [OT] has failed. It appears to be in danger right now. The recent comment about brownshirts should be a warning to you that thing are getting out of hand. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/20100204184318.2a6df24c...@marge.leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] One man's summary of why Microsoft is failing
An interesting editorial in the New York Times about the decline of Microsoft. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?themc=th --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/463af99344464ab4b38b992341557...@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Swiss Guy about Guns
The comment relevance comes and goes. I read the first one then if I find it interesting I read the rest. Otherwise, I delete them. No reason to get your knickers in a bunch. - Original Message - From: Gene Wirchenko ge...@ocis.net To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Swiss Guy about Guns I know how to use filters, but tell me: how would you set up a filter for Swiss Guy about Guns before seeing it for the first time? Or do you mean that I should filter out by sender? If it gets that bad in FxoProTech, then [OT] has failed. It appears to be in danger right now. The recent comment about brownshirts should be a warning to you that thing are getting out of hand. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/bb63e07bf33c4ff3a6662c5085e70...@dual ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Postfix mail server to handle iPhones 3GS
That worked. The link you provide was a little dated, (eg Thunderbird 2). I'm running Thunderbird 3.0.1. Setting up Tunderbird to connect to my gmail account was trival. I just selected to create a new account. Then a dialog appeared where I entered my gmail user name, password, and email address. Thunderbird then probed gmail and set everything up with a connection over SSL/TLS with port 465 for the incoming emails and port 993, I believe, for outgoing mail. Regards, LelandJ On 02/04/2010 11:10 AM, Andrew Stirling wrote: imap http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=77662 Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program Leland Jackson wrote: Thanks for the link Andrew. I'll look into that, and hope to find that Thunderbird can connect to gmail using imap. I'll check back sometime after lunch. Regards, LelandJ On 02/04/2010 10:10 AM, Andrew Stirling wrote: Leland BTW, does anyone know if it's possible to connect a desktop email client like Thunderbire to a gmail account? http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=38343 Andrew Stirling 01250 874580 http://www.calcpay.co.uk HMRC Accredited UK payroll program [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b1d32.6070...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Postfix mail server to handle iPhones 3GS
On 02/04/2010 11:32 AM, Paul McNett wrote: On 2/4/10 7:58 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: It finally dawn on me, after some sleep last night, and a good, hot cup of coffee this morning, that your favorite database admin app would probably be Dabo; since, that's kind of your baby. My hat's off to you, and Ed, for all you have done in developing Dabo. The AppWizard does a great job for making quick CRUD apps for single-tables, but you needed a relationship-auto-finder that AppWizard doesn't do, which is why I didn't suggest it. Dabo can certainly handle the normalized structure of that database, but the AppWizard can't quickly make an application based on that normalized structure. Anyway, I found an article yesterday that explained how to identify a roaming user using their email address. Each email address is unique with a domain name that resolves to a unique IP address, so this could be used to identify an incoming email by have Postfix examine the From header as trusted for relaying. How can a roaming user's from be guaranteed to resolve to a unique ip address? If they are in a café, they are likely going over the local wifi where the router uses NAT, so everyone in that café has the same external ip address. Or are you going to automatically trust for relaying all email that purports to be from the stated domain? That opens you up to relaying from everywhere given the sender forges the from address. The current network to which the iPhone connects, and the corresponding IP address the network assigns to the iPhone computer, are not used to in the from header The user would connect to the mail server using their email address, (eg lela...@mail.smvfp.com) and that would become the email's from header. Each valid email address is unique; because, the domain part of the email address resolves to a user who has a mailbox at a unique mail server IP address. The problem with this method of authentication is it is easy to spoof an email address. Spammer are constantly looking for open relays or email server that are not correctly configured. They use spiders and other robots in their search and take over of a mail server. Port sniffer are used to locate computer that have ports open that are normally associated with mail servers. The spammer can then attack the mail server to acquire a user name and password pair that will give them access to the computer. They can then install software on the computer that can easily spoof a valid email address on the mail server, right from with it. Also, if an email address is cracked on a mail server that allows emailing from a remote location, the spammer can send out spam remotely. Then the spammer can connect to the main server remotely to sent out emails by the hundreds of thousands using a spoofed email address. The email list used by spammers usually contain a high percentage of bad addresses, so after they do a spam, email begin bouncing back to the mail server, which is eventually brought to its knees for day on end. There are at least three reason I can think of why spammer uses these methods: 1) They conduct business using resources of others. 2) They are better able to hide their true identity. 3) If the mail server is blacklisted, they make that a problem of somebody else, not them. Although using the from header to trust emails for relaying by an email server is not an open relay, its not far from it. LOL The author did not recommend this solution, because it's not secure, but I could use this method temporarily for a couple of iPhones, until I had the time to implement something more secure, like sasl. The Air Force skipped encryption on their spy drones for the same reason. BTW, does anyone know if it's possible to connect a desktop email client like Thunderbire to a gmail account? I haven't done it, but in TBird 3 new account I see a 'gmail' option. DBmail has an email list. I'm going to see if anyone on the DBmail list has address the problem of relaying remote/roaming user's email. I'll get back with you then, and let you know what I learn. Regards, LelandJ Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b2991.1080...@mail.smvfp.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] One man's summary of why Microsoft is failing
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net wrote: An interesting editorial in the New York Times about the decline of Microsoft. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?themc=th --- From the middle Not everything that has gone wrong at Microsoft is due to internecine warfare. Part of the problem is a historic preference to develop (highly profitable) software without undertaking (highly risky) hardware. This made economic sense when the company was founded in 1975, but now makes it far more difficult to create tightly integrated, beautifully designed products like an iPhone or TiVo. And, yes, part of the problem has been an understandable caution in the wake of the antitrust settlement. Timing has also been poor — too soon on Web TV, too late on iPods. I see this as the #1 issue that M$ has to overcome. They have done so poorly in the mp3 player market in units sold. The units are real good, I own 1 and find the radio the killer piece that Apple can't figure out how to SELL YOU content for in iTunes yet. I foresee Apple, as being the control freak they are, getting overshadowed by Google with respect to to new ideas. I don't see M$ changing until there is a semi massive retirement and then the middle line management gets to take on new roles, decisions etc. M$ will evolve just as IBM did. IBM use to be all about their iron, and now they are about service that can run on any iron. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer CIMSgts 901.246-0159 cell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c4313dbe1002041143n310f869dpc9473e2116db4...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Swiss Guy about Guns
On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: And what happens if someone does not? I and others get to spend our time sifting through the garbage to get what we subscribed to the list for. Free speech at our expense. I apologize deeply. Send me your address and I'll refund every penny you paid. OK, sarcasm isn't needed, but neither is whining. Face it: there are jerks on this list. Either figure out how to filter them, or unsubscribe. No one wants to spend time holding your hand and customizing the world of email to your dream. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c90254ad-ff3a-4ee2-ae8c-eab725293...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Swiss Guy about Guns
Seconded Al -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Gene Wirchenko Sent: 04 February 2010 18:33 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Cc: Ed Leafe Subject: Re: Swiss Guy about Guns At 09:03 2010-02-04, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Everybody, [OT link redacted] I dropped ProFox and went with ProFoxTech because of the garbage in [OT]. Now, it looks to be creeping into ProFoxTech. Ed, could you please do something effective about this? Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/6a306db7bff24cd08d934bf6c5e01...@gsl.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Swiss Guy about Guns
Some people seem to make more mistakes than others Al -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Hi Gene, It was a mistake. I already corrected it, but since you are on tech you didn't see it. Have you ever made a mistake? At least, one you remember :-) -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d35f953ca20d48ddbe934995119db...@gsl.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Swiss Guy about Guns
On 02/04/2010 11:21 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: Pete Theisen wrote: Hi Everybody, http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/754.html Good find, Pete. Regards, LelandJ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b2d79.7070...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
I battled with this exact problem early in January Mike. I really could have used this thread back then! Ended up working it out through trial and error and am now installing into C:\MyApp. Re Jeff's post: I heard there might be problems with that and with my work in Linux, the users\public seemed to be a nice home for my apps. Is this where I should be installing instead? What sort of problems come of installing to C:\MyApp ? P.S. Mike: We of the fairer species are never easy but always worth it. ;-) Tina Currie -Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions, LLC [mailto:mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com] Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 4:20 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine Yeah, I've got this nice mystic-amethyst ring on layaway...but things have been very rocky lately, and now the Brazilian girlfriend is emailing me, so who knows what the future has in store for me. Ugh. Hate to spend that $$$ on a ring for a girl who's potentially breaking up with me soon. Sometimes being a single guy is far, far easier (...and cheaper). ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/00db01caa5d9$fb044dd0$f10ce9...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Obama...er, Takes Responsibility
http://bit.ly/aPLfSc - - - How he can propose this budget, and still manage with a straight face to make Bush's budget record an issue, I have no idea. His deficits ECLIPSE anything Bush ever did, fiscal insanity-wise. The gall of the man is ... audacious. I also heard his comment today, Like it or not, we need a healthy, functioning economy... Like it or not?! Who the hell doesn't like that idea (besides his Maoist czars and czarinas)? It sounded like something he was trying to sell himself. My jaw dropped... it was very revealing... I don't think his attempt to sound centrist and non-ideological is working because he's terrible at faking his professed (vs real) convictions, now that he's got to make decisions and not just speeches. - Publius -- It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country, under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful and vigilant performance of the trust. [Federalist Papers #59] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/56f880751002041134j78517a00w478f473647635...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Obama...er, Takes Responsibility
Tell me more A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc711002041246o1ff83d97lc781d3fb3167a...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9SP2 app copied onto Windows 7 64-bit machine
Tina Currie wrote: P.S. Mike: We of the fairer species are never easy but always worth it. ;-) Tina Currie Tina, are you sure you didn't mean and rarely worth it ? OK I expect to be flamed gdr ... Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b333c.7000...@foxpertise.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Swiss Guy about Guns
I am offering to double Ed's offer to pay damages to any injured parties, just to get this off our backs. Gil Gilbert M. Hale g...@gilhale.com 585-359-8085 - Office (Rolls To Cellular) 585-202-4341 - Cellular/Voice Mail Legal Advisory: I have had a security expert advise me to embed the following statement in all outgoing eMails. Please read it. The statement below pertains to any person receiving or reading this document, whether or not they are the intended recipient or have intercepted this information as a non-secured communication transmitted over the Internet. Be advised you are required to comply with the following statement: This email communication (and any attached file or files) is intended only for the recipient(s) listed above. If you are neither an intended recipient, or a person responsible for the delivery of this communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby advised that any use, distribution or copying of the information in this communication is prohibited. The information transmitted in this email communication, and any attached file(s), may include confidential material protected by a privileged attorney/client relationship, may be an attorney work product, or may be work performed for a client that contains confidential information. Further, an attorney/client privilege includes CPA related work under the Kovel Rule and other similar State and/or Federal protections. If you have received this information in error please notify the sender immediately via return email, or at 585-359-8085 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech- boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:16 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Swiss Guy about Guns On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: And what happens if someone does not? I and others get to spend our time sifting through the garbage to get what we subscribed to the list for. Free speech at our expense. I apologize deeply. Send me your address and I'll refund every penny you paid. OK, sarcasm isn't needed, but neither is whining. Face it: there are jerks on this list. Either figure out how to filter them, or unsubscribe. No one wants to spend time holding your hand and customizing the world of email to your dream. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/05f301caa5dd$69d8c5d0$3d8a51...@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Given a software product's price, how would you calculate asubscription fee alternative?
Bill, Thank you very much for your thoughts - very helpful! Regards, Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1265317575.10154.1358331...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] There's that adverb again...
http://bit.ly/cHC7R8 - - - WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of newly laid-off workers filing initial claims for jobless benefits rose UNEXPECTEDLY last week, evidence that layoffs are continuing and jobs remain scarce. The rise is the fourth in the past five weeks. Most economists hoped that claims would resume a downward trend that was evident in the fall and early winter. - - - They keep this up and soon they'll be qualified to work for the IPCC. I like the 2nd sentence even more... Most economists HOPED LOL! Now that's faith! (per Hebrews 11:1) - Publius -- It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country, under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful and vigilant performance of the trust. [Federalist Papers #59] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/56f880751002041306l3aba6694y8ae0ef13180aa...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] There's that adverb again...
Going from strength to strength tonight A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc711002041314t760cbd7pa9cbe8bec11a1...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] How MS conspires to stifle its own innovation.
Interesting article from an ex-Microsoft veep. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?pagewanted=1 He's right in saying that Windows and Office won't sustain them forever. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1265319216.14542.1358335...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] How MS conspires to stifle its own innovation.
Alan Bourke wrote: Interesting article from an ex-Microsoft veep. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?pagewanted=1 He's right in saying that Windows and Office won't sustain them forever. Well, isn't that kind of a no-brainer comment? Does anyone really think it would? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b3f10.2010...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Form refreshes
Advice please I have a form with (say) 1 pageframe and 5 pages The form displays asset items, of differing types In the CLICK of each page, I tell the form what TEXTs to show and what LABELS etc (Thisform.pageframe1.page2.label9.Visible =showme) (Depending on the asset type of item displayed, i only display certain information) There are in fact almost 50 .visibles and .captions etc just on page 2 What is the best way to handle the screen refresh 1 On the first Click event 2 if they change the type, it should refresh the page with the new params 3 there are 2 buttons for Next and Previous -- Regards Sytze de Boer Kiss Systems Hamilton, NZ Ph: 64-7-8391670, Mob:64 21 937611 URL: www.kiss.co.nz --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c41002041342l7586e6c9mf752cb423b619...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] How MS conspires to stifle its own innovation.
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: Alan Bourke wrote: Interesting article from an ex-Microsoft veep. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/opinion/04brass.html?pagewanted=1 He's right in saying that Windows and Office won't sustain them forever. It was a nice read, though...thanks. I see some of that here at the day gig, unfortunately. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b42c7.4090...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] How MS conspires to stifle its own innovation.
Que sera sera.. A+ jml ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/a2b0cc711002041400o6dac8378t2bf320369b044...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP9: mousewheel and combobox
Good Afternoon All: When a combobox is not dropped down the mousewheel fires and moves the listindex accordingly. But when a combobox is dropped down the mousewheel seems to have no effect on the listindex. How do you get the listindex to change as mouse wheel is spun? Thanks! Regards, Jack Skelley ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0b957900b2b8194d998a441195b66038389e006...@drdsrv03.drdad.thenewarkarena.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox
Is there any place in Windows that works that way? I can't think of any. Once it's dropped down, you pick with the mouse or you scroll with the arrows/thumb on the right. Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Good Afternoon All: When a combobox is not dropped down the mousewheel fires and moves the listindex accordingly. But when a combobox is dropped down the mousewheel seems to have no effect on the listindex. How do you get the listindex to change as mouse wheel is spun? Thanks! Regards, Jack Skelley [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3392e7101002041409h15222e69o65cdb0b408f44...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Form refreshes
In the CLICK of each page, I tell the form what TEXTs to show and what LABELS etc I would use the Activate of page before the click of a page. Activate fires once and only once when the page is selected as the current page. In the Activate you can add: This.Refresh() This will refresh all the controls on the activated page. No need to individually refresh each control. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/01a801caa5e8$61cfe250$256fa6...@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Form refreshes
Hi Thanks Rick Please clarify I understand you to say that I move all the code from Click event to Activate event So far so good There is also an optiongroup and depending on what they choose, requires a screen refresh and display/hide appropriate texts and labels There are 2 command buttons that say Skip or Skip -1 and then the screen is updated accordingly. Are you saying the screen updates are all conditioned by the Activate event code (with the added line this.refresh() ?? I'm jiust trying to be a bit more code efficient On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Rick Schummer pro...@whitelightcomputing.com wrote: In the CLICK of each page, I tell the form what TEXTs to show and what LABELS etc I would use the Activate of page before the click of a page. Activate fires once and only once when the page is selected as the current page. In the Activate you can add: This.Refresh() This will refresh all the controls on the activated page. No need to individually refresh each control. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/367498c41002041432m3b9c6008v991b72c57b08f...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected
Fred: Well then why not (he poses rhetorically)! I realize that if the mouse is over the combobox object when it is dropped down and the mousewheel is spun the listindex changes accordingly. But then wouldn't it be nice if the same were true with the mouse not over the object. And I am not sure I know how to intercept wm_mousewheel and make it work in this instance. Regards, Jack From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fred Taylor [fbtay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:09 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected Is there any place in Windows that works that way? I can't think of any. Once it's dropped down, you pick with the mouse or you scroll with the arrows/thumb on the right. Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Good Afternoon All: When a combobox is not dropped down the mousewheel fires and moves the listindex accordingly. But when a combobox is dropped down the mousewheel seems to have no effect on the listindex. How do you get the listindex to change as mouse wheel is spun? Thanks! Regards, Jack Skelley [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0b957900b2b8194d998a441195b66038389e006...@drdsrv03.drdad.thenewarkarena.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected
Maybe it would be, but that's not the way Windows is wired. And if you're not over the object, how would it even know what to scroll? Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Fred: Well then why not (he poses rhetorically)! I realize that if the mouse is over the combobox object when it is dropped down and the mousewheel is spun the listindex changes accordingly. But then wouldn't it be nice if the same were true with the mouse not over the object. And I am not sure I know how to intercept wm_mousewheel and make it work in this instance. Regards, Jack From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fred Taylor [fbtay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:09 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected Is there any place in Windows that works that way? I can't think of any. Once it's dropped down, you pick with the mouse or you scroll with the arrows/thumb on the right. Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Good Afternoon All: When a combobox is not dropped down the mousewheel fires and moves the listindex accordingly. But when a combobox is dropped down the mousewheel seems to have no effect on the listindex. How do you get the listindex to change as mouse wheel is spun? Thanks! Regards, Jack Skelley [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3392e7101002041528lfb767c6od1f1a69eac306...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] This one is for Jean
http://bit.ly/dtE2QO - - - For my #1 Fan. ;) - Publius -- It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country, under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful and vigilant performance of the trust. [Federalist Papers #59] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/56f880751002041532j4b99e7cdq2b91b0612f70e...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected
I just checked, the MouseWheel event doesn't even fire when the combo is dropped down. I don't think you can get there from here. Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Fred: Well then why not (he poses rhetorically)! I realize that if the mouse is over the combobox object when it is dropped down and the mousewheel is spun the listindex changes accordingly. But then wouldn't it be nice if the same were true with the mouse not over the object. And I am not sure I know how to intercept wm_mousewheel and make it work in this instance. Regards, Jack From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fred Taylor [fbtay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:09 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected Is there any place in Windows that works that way? I can't think of any. Once it's dropped down, you pick with the mouse or you scroll with the arrows/thumb on the right. Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Good Afternoon All: When a combobox is not dropped down the mousewheel fires and moves the listindex accordingly. But when a combobox is dropped down the mousewheel seems to have no effect on the listindex. How do you get the listindex to change as mouse wheel is spun? Thanks! Regards, Jack Skelley [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3392e7101002041533k131c9cdbsdd637c3358357...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected
Just tried something else. The MouseWheel event does fire if your over the original textbox of the combo (not the dropped down part) and you don't even need any code, it scrolls the list. That's as good as it's going to get. Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Fred: Well then why not (he poses rhetorically)! I realize that if the mouse is over the combobox object when it is dropped down and the mousewheel is spun the listindex changes accordingly. But then wouldn't it be nice if the same were true with the mouse not over the object. And I am not sure I know how to intercept wm_mousewheel and make it work in this instance. Regards, Jack From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Fred Taylor [fbtay...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:09 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected Is there any place in Windows that works that way? I can't think of any. Once it's dropped down, you pick with the mouse or you scroll with the arrows/thumb on the right. Fred On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jack Skelley jskel...@newjerseydevils.comwrote: Good Afternoon All: When a combobox is not dropped down the mousewheel fires and moves the listindex accordingly. But when a combobox is dropped down the mousewheel seems to have no effect on the listindex. How do you get the listindex to change as mouse wheel is spun? Thanks! Regards, Jack Skelley [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3392e7101002041535j66a7e4abx7209a8f07e694...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Problem with dynamicbackcolor in grid
Bill, Thanks for you reply. I have not used bindevents very much beyond changing the cursor and logging. I googled a few articles and will read up on it. I just wish there was a way to call the dynamiccolor manually instead of it calling automatically. Alan On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Bill Arnold billjarn...@h2officesolutions.com wrote: Alan, This may be a wild thought, but would it be possible to use bindevents/unbindevents to tame the beast? Bill I sent this last night but hasn't shown up yet. Sorry if reposted. Guys, I am stuck. I have run into a problem with thisform.grid3.columns(1). dynamicbackcolor. I have been working on this on and off for a month trying various ways to get this working. 51cf9y4c43a292f20dc...@mail.gmail.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ef1194f11002041546n5b0b068en356f8a01775c1...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9: mousewheel and combobox - Spam detected
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: I just checked, the MouseWheel event doesn't even fire when the combo is dropped down. I don't think you can get there from here. What? http://adribbers.com/BCB/ContestEntry.aspx There is a beer style dropdown. Mousewheel works fine there. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer CIMSgts 901.246-0159 cell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/c4313dbe1002041607i575e945dr3374d56784287...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] This one is for Jean
Publius Maximus wrote: http://bit.ly/dtE2QO - - - For my #1 Fan. ;) - Publius Please elaborate on this. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b673b.8000...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] How big is $1.9 trillion?
http://bit.ly/ac52a5 - - - WASHINGTON – A 1.9 trillion-mile trip is about the same as 8 million trips to the moon. Unfortunately, the $1.9 trillion in new borrowing authority Congress is giving President Barack Obama won't take people quite that far. The additional $1.9 trillion raises the debt ceiling to $14.3 trillion, but that limit may have to be increased again after the November election. No matter how you look at it, 1.9 trillion is a lot. In dollars, it equals about $6,000 for every man, woman and child in the U.S. It's almost twice all the money America has spent on military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001. That amount would buy about 422 Nimitz Class aircraft carriers, which run about $4.5 billion apiece. It would be enough to provide Pell grants of $5,000 to some 380 million low-income students, a number exceeding the entire population of the country. And 1.9 trillion feet would take you to the top of Mount Everest 65 million times, or to the bottom of the 36,000-foot Mariana Trench, the deepest point in the Pacific, about 53 million times. In terms of time, 1.9 trillion seconds adds up to about 60,000 years. And 1.9 trillion hours ago, or almost 220 million years ago, dinosaurs were just beginning to dominate the Earth. - - - Only Helen Thomas can fact-check the last statement as an eye-witness, but overall, it paints a picture of a government careening completely, utterly out of control. New era of responsibility? My @$$. They used the excuse of the (orchestrated?) crisis in late 2009 to break the bank. Completely smash it into dust. - Publius -- It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country, under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful and vigilant performance of the trust. [Federalist Papers #59] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/56f880751002041819qa423d65n48e3a0d295fa7...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] How big is $1.9 trillion?
ORCHESTRATED CRISIS??? Delusions must really plague you badly nowadays. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Publius Maximus Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 12:50 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] How big is $1.9 trillion? http://bit.ly/ac52a5 - - - WASHINGTON - A 1.9 trillion-mile trip is about the same as 8 million trips to the moon. Unfortunately, the $1.9 trillion in new borrowing authority Congress is giving President Barack Obama won't take people quite that far. The additional $1.9 trillion raises the debt ceiling to $14.3 trillion, but that limit may have to be increased again after the November election. No matter how you look at it, 1.9 trillion is a lot. In dollars, it equals about $6,000 for every man, woman and child in the U.S. It's almost twice all the money America has spent on military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001. That amount would buy about 422 Nimitz Class aircraft carriers, which run about $4.5 billion apiece. It would be enough to provide Pell grants of $5,000 to some 380 million low-income students, a number exceeding the entire population of the country. And 1.9 trillion feet would take you to the top of Mount Everest 65 million times, or to the bottom of the 36,000-foot Mariana Trench, the deepest point in the Pacific, about 53 million times. In terms of time, 1.9 trillion seconds adds up to about 60,000 years. And 1.9 trillion hours ago, or almost 220 million years ago, dinosaurs were just beginning to dominate the Earth. - - - Only Helen Thomas can fact-check the last statement as an eye-witness, but overall, it paints a picture of a government careening completely, utterly out of control. New era of responsibility? My @$$. They used the excuse of the (orchestrated?) crisis in late 2009 to break the bank. Completely smash it into dust. - Publius -- It ought never to be forgotten, that a firm union of this country, under an efficient government, will probably be an increasing object of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe; and that enterprises to subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers, and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. Its preservation, therefore ought in no case that can be avoided, to be committed to the guardianship of any but those whose situation will uniformly beget an immediate interest in the faithful and vigilant performance of the trust. [Federalist Papers #59] [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001a01caa60b$c26bdba0$474392...@com.au ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Parsing a text field?
Gentlemen . I have records that contains part numbers and other data. Multiple records may contain the same part number . (don't worry, other fields make the record unique J .) PartNumber C(24) 12A456789-123 12A456789-123? 12A456789-?123 12A456789?123 12A456789-0123 12A456789-?2123 12A456789-?4123? 12A456789-2123? 12A456789-?1123 The question marks can be any ALPHA character (a-Z), if any. The user enters the part number in a form. I need to FILTER out the ALPHA for a valid match as a valid entry need not contain the (?) ALPHA character: i.e. 12A456789-123 is the same as 12A456789-123A i.e. 12A456789-123 is the same as 12A456789-A123 SCANing or DO WHILEing . Sure, I can! Parsing the value for each record . all half million of them. That's what was done in the past. I'm considered creating a cursor with just the part numbers containing the first nine characters and then parsing that table. That's where I'm at currently!! Are there any options that could be done with a single SQL Select that I've missed. (READ: Really feeling stupid!) Thanks for anything! Best, Francis I. Coppage, Jr. -- Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. ... Albert Einstein ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/025101caa615$c1ac2990$45047c...@net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Parsing a text field?
On 2/4/10 7:46 PM, Francis Coppage wrote: Are there any options that could be done with a single SQL Select that I've missed. (READ: Really feeling stupid!) I can't remember: does VFP's SELECT-SQL allow for searching using regular expressions? Because your problem just calls for a regex solution. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4b6b9d2f.5090...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Form refreshes
Are you saying the screen updates are all conditioned by the Activate event code (with the added line this.refresh() ?? What I like to do is put the refresh code for each control into the control itself, in the Refresh(). Not in the container like you are suggesting. This way the Activate code is simplified to one line: This.Refresh() This one line calls the Refresh() of each visible object in the container, and subsequently drills down into all visible containers and calls the visible control Refresh(). When this happens I get the default behavior where VFP updates the .Value with the value in the .ControlSource. Now for the special cases where I have additional behavior as you describe, putting this logic in the control's Refresh() also gets called. I like that objects control themselves and are all knowing about themselves. It removes the interdependency created by coding in the one method. It removes the concern of when code is called, and understanding if the object is already instantiated or not. The drawback is you have to touch lots of objects if there is lots of refresh behavior that needs to change based on user requirements. It is a choice. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/021301caa626$02cc6c40$086544...@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Problem with dynamicbackcolor in grid
Alan, Thanks for you reply. I have not used bindevents very much beyond changing the cursor and logging. I googled a few articles and will read up on it. I just wish there was a way to call the dynamiccolor manually instead of it calling automatically. I've made good use of BINDEVENTS, but not in a case like this, which is why I mention it cautiously. The typical use is for method code, but in this case you're dealing with a property. BINDEVENTS says it can be used with properties, so ... The attraction is that it's a way to get control of whether it's active or not, so it's switchable. The basic thought was that if you could turn off BINDEVENTS when this exposure exists, then turn it back on, maybe with a REFRESH (?), you could achieve what you're looking for. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0ec2984b0dc642708d5a876832c40...@bills ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
