Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
Just a minor point, your app can move to the web with any kind of database: VFP, SQLserver, PostGreSql, etc. FoxInCloud just does not care. VFP database on a web server is much more secured, reliable and fast: Secured: it resides in the app directory, NOT in the web site, so only the app access it, not user directly; you can set up whatever NTFS security scheme you see fit. Reliable: server startup and shut down are properly controlled; no more cdx or fpt broken because of a workstation unplugged in the midst of a transaction. Fast: no more indexes traveling over th wire; everything happens within the server. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Thierry, In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very technical. So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't use resources that are open to the web. Desktop apps accessing a local SQL network tend to fit this category. Many of them use .dbf tables because they can't even set up an SQL server (which the current VFP app also supports.) With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine. Take care, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app Just completing my previous point ... If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for your IP at your expressed request. That's how our more security addicts clients operate. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit : Fletcher, Jeff, Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ? We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps ! In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Mike, Due to security reasons, it cannot be a web or cloud based app. So that limits some of the choices. Also, it is for one of those markets where Windows desktops prevail almost universally. So there is limited need for cross platform support. We are planning on a long term conversion, with our goal being to have the entire application suite converted by the 2015. This is not a trivial application. So we will continue to support/enhance the VFP products. But we are running into IT departments that are making roadblocks to new sales because of the 2015 deadline. What other languages would you recommend, now that you know more? Thanks, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:07 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Fletcher Johnson wrote: Hi all, I am working with a new company that has a successful VFP app that they need to convert to .NET as MS will be cancelling support for VFP soon and the customers IT departments are getting nervous. So I have been asked to help with a rewrite. I am sure there have been many discussions on this topic. Can anyone point me to some of the more current and complete discussions on this topic (on this list or otherwise)? The new app will continue to be a desktop app and will have the same interface (so there is no retraining required to implement the new version). It currently has the option to have data stored as local .dbf tables or on an MS SQL table. So we also need to continue to support local/disconnected data sets. We are looking for suggestions on application frameworks, data libraries (ORM, etc.), VS technologies (Silverlight/WPF/Winform/ADO/etc.) and other resources that will aid in the conversion. We are not looking for something that will just convert the code to .net as there are some key architectural changes we want to implement under the hood. Any links or other references to point me in the right direction will be greatly appreciated. Wow!
Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
Yeap, I understand, they do fall in the irrational, technophobe group I was mentioning. And, strangely enough, even in this case a web-based solution can help... In any scenario you need some kind of open door for upgrade, maintenance and other stuff; unless you physically come to the client's place with your toolbox on every issue, you probably have some kind of inward access to act upon workstations, server, LAN resources. A Web-based solution like FoxInCloud acts exactly the same except you only need a http access for maintenance: no 'remote desktop' or the like needed for 99% maintenance tasks. Just execute a VFP program to upload and substitute the new app version; users just see a 'maintenance in progress' message for 30 seconds and resume working without any loss of data or work context. It's just 'transparent': no need to warn them, ask them to log off, etc. Another strong point is the freedom of choice for users regarding their equipment: go for Mac if you like, or Linux, or pad, or whatever you see fit for your taste and needs. No constraint on 'windows xx', no pollution of your app by 3rd party software like antivirus, less administrative burden to control OS upgrades or the like: your users are totally free, even on their preferred browser. So, IMHO, offering a LAN server-based app can be a very pertinent offer to such a tech-agnostic client, especially if, with a tool like FoxInCloud, you can offer it at 1/5 th of your competitor's cost while making good money. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Thierry, In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very technical. So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't use resources that are open to the web. Desktop apps accessing a local SQL network tend to fit this category. Many of them use .dbf tables because they can't even set up an SQL server (which the current VFP app also supports.) With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine. Take care, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app Just completing my previous point ... If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for your IP at your expressed request. That's how our more security addicts clients operate. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit : Fletcher, Jeff, Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ? We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps ! In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Mike, Due to security reasons, it cannot be a web or cloud based app. So that limits some of the choices. Also, it is for one of those markets where Windows desktops prevail almost universally. So there is limited need for cross platform support. We are planning on a long term conversion, with our goal being to have the entire application suite converted by the 2015. This is not a trivial application. So we will continue to support/enhance the VFP products. But we are running into IT departments that are making roadblocks to new sales because of the 2015 deadline. What other languages would you recommend, now that you know more? Thanks, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:07 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Fletcher Johnson wrote: Hi all, I am working with a new company that has a successful VFP app that they need to convert to .NET as MS will be cancelling support for VFP soon and the customers IT departments are getting nervous. So I have been asked to help with a rewrite. I am sure there have been many discussions on this topic. Can anyone
[NF] Awesome IT revenge story
It's probably worth the 100 hours of community service. LOL http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/22/hacker-ceo-presentation-porn/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/20557.8898...@web161428.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story
When I worked in the financial services software market we had a product for pensions but for the internal Alpha presentation, the product name we chose wouldn't fit on the screen so we abbreviated it and drew straws... A guy known as JJ had the dubious pleasure of standing in front of the whole division (a couple of hundred people) and announcing that we have developed Computels Universal Numeric Translator For Life Assures Pension Systems but as it was too long we had shortened it to CUNT FLAPS, he then flashed the name up on the projector... The room was silent for about 2 seconds before the first person choked and started laughing. That was the last time we were able to choose a product name... it became Envoy when launched -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 24 June 2011 09:10 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story It's probably worth the 100 hours of community service. LOL http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/22/hacker-ceo-presentation-porn/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/19f4fee1af56334bb1e275e95de0017a5e2...@euros01.euro.local ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story
Is that true ... bloody hilarious On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:21 +0100, Adam Buckland adam.buckl...@eurohill.com wrote: When I worked in the financial services software market we had a product for pensions but for the internal Alpha presentation, the product name we chose wouldn't fit on the screen so we abbreviated it and drew straws... A guy known as JJ had the dubious pleasure of standing in front of the whole division (a couple of hundred people) and announcing that we have developed Computels Universal Numeric Translator For Life Assures Pension Systems but as it was too long we had shortened it to CUNT FLAPS, he then flashed the name up on the projector... The room was silent for about 2 seconds before the first person choked and started laughing. That was the last time we were able to choose a product name... it became Envoy when launched -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 24 June 2011 09:10 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story It's probably worth the 100 hours of community service. LOL http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/22/hacker-ceo-presentation-porn/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1308909405.22315.1466754...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Wisdom in the inbox
Hi Everybody, The conclusion: The Arabs are not happy! ·They are not happy in Gaza . ·They are not happy in the West Bank . ·They are not happy in Jerusalem . ·They are not happy in Israel . ·They are not happy in Egypt . ·They are not happy in Libya . ·They are not happy in Algeria . ·They are not happy in Tunis . ·They are not happy in Morocco . ·They are not happy in Yemen . ·They are not happy in Iraq . ·They are not happy in Afghanistan . ·They are not happy in Syria . ·They are not happy in Lebanon . ·They are not happy in Sudan . ·They are not happy in Jordan . ·They are not happy in Iran . Where are the Arabs happy? ·They are happy in Britain . ·They are happy in France . ·They are happy in Italy . ·They are happy in Germany . ·They are happy in Sweden . ·They are happy in Holland . ·They are happy in Belgium . ·They are happy in Norway . ·They are happy in the U.S.A. ·They are happy in Romania . ·They are happy in Hungary . They are happy in any other country in the world that is not under Muslim rule. And whom do they blame? · Not Islam. · Not their leadership. · Not themselves. But the same countries in which they are happy to live. Democracy is really good for them: In a democracy they can live comfortably at the taxpayers expense, enjoy the high quality of life which they did not build and work for, they don’t have to be productive and earn a living, they can be wild, pray in the streets, openly plot and preach against the West, exploit social services and bite the hand that feeds them. And by the time the free world wakes up, it will be too late. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e0461fd.3050...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
On 6/24/2011 3:32 AM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: Just a minor point, your app can move to the web with any kind of database: VFP, SQLserver, PostGreSql, etc. FoxInCloud just does not care. VFP database on a web server is much more secured, reliable and fast: Secured: it resides in the app directory, NOT in the web site, so only the app access it, not user directly; you can set up whatever NTFS security scheme you see fit. Reliable: server startup and shut down are properly controlled; no more cdx or fpt broken because of a workstation unplugged in the midst of a transaction. Fast: no more indexes traveling over th wire; everything happens within the server. Can it use a lot of x-base commands in classic foxpro coding style, or must it be changed to be more tiered? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04804b.3080...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VCX Editor
Hi all Does anybody know where I can get a copy of the the VCX Editor described here: Beyond the Class Designer-The VCX Editor by Kevin McNeish (FoxTalk Sept 2000) Thanks Paul Newton --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/96d5b71c2b277647a0ecf548f1ebf5270665e03...@ukfawexmb2.infor.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VCX Editor
You might want to check out HackCX from White Light Computing and Rick Schummer. http://www.whitelightcomputing.com/prodhackcxpro.htm -Kevin On 06/24/2011 10:48 AM, Paul Newton wrote: Does anybody know where I can get a copy of the the VCX Editor described here: Beyond the Class Designer-The VCX Editor by Kevin McNeish (FoxTalk Sept 2000) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04a5b2.4020...@cullytechnologies.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VCX Editor
Beyond the Class Designer-The VCX Editor by Kevin McNeish (FoxTalk Sept 2000) You can get all the back issues and examples and downloads for Fox Talk articles if you are a current subscriber to FoxRockX. dFPUG, owners/publishers of FoxRockX own the rights to all Fox Talk articles, with a few exceptions. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000c01cc3281$8d1a9000$a74fb000$@whitelightcomputing.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
Thierry, You have some good points. But our customers don’t have or want to manage a webserver. They just want to install the application and go. And they also feel that using a browser opens them up to potential hacks - which is not a good thing in their case. So regardless of what I think, I have to give them what they want or they will just go to another vendor who will. But I will certainly keep your comments in mind for other situations. Thanks, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-781-2345 - Cell 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:08 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app Yeap, I understand, they do fall in the irrational, technophobe group I was mentioning. And, strangely enough, even in this case a web-based solution can help... In any scenario you need some kind of open door for upgrade, maintenance and other stuff; unless you physically come to the client's place with your toolbox on every issue, you probably have some kind of inward access to act upon workstations, server, LAN resources. A Web-based solution like FoxInCloud acts exactly the same except you only need a http access for maintenance: no 'remote desktop' or the like needed for 99% maintenance tasks. Just execute a VFP program to upload and substitute the new app version; users just see a 'maintenance in progress' message for 30 seconds and resume working without any loss of data or work context. It's just 'transparent': no need to warn them, ask them to log off, etc. Another strong point is the freedom of choice for users regarding their equipment: go for Mac if you like, or Linux, or pad, or whatever you see fit for your taste and needs. No constraint on 'windows xx', no pollution of your app by 3rd party software like antivirus, less administrative burden to control OS upgrades or the like: your users are totally free, even on their preferred browser. So, IMHO, offering a LAN server-based app can be a very pertinent offer to such a tech-agnostic client, especially if, with a tool like FoxInCloud, you can offer it at 1/5 th of your competitor's cost while making good money. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Thierry, In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very technical. So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't use resources that are open to the web. Desktop apps accessing a local SQL network tend to fit this category. Many of them use .dbf tables because they can't even set up an SQL server (which the current VFP app also supports.) With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine. Take care, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app Just completing my previous point ... If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for your IP at your expressed request. That's how our more security addicts clients operate. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit : Fletcher, Jeff, Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ? We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps ! In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Mike, Due to security reasons, it cannot be a web or cloud based app. So that limits some of the choices. Also, it is for one of those markets where Windows desktops prevail almost universally. So there is limited need for cross platform support. We are planning on a long term conversion, with our goal being to have the entire application suite converted by the 2015. This is not a trivial application. So we will continue to support/enhance the VFP products. But we are running into IT departments that are making roadblocks to new sales because of the 2015 deadline.
FPW26 Freezing
I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04c9fc.5080...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
Great, I appreciate your open mind, very much in line with the excellent atmosphere I breathe from this mailing list. I'm glad I joined a month ago, and would like to thank members for blowing this amount of fresh air. Fletcher, I wish you all the best with your client. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud PS: we'll soon cast a couple of videos showing the whole FIC process, including maitenance. Le 24 juin 2011 à 19:08, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Thierry, You have some good points. But our customers don’t have or want to manage a webserver. They just want to install the application and go. And they also feel that using a browser opens them up to potential hacks - which is not a good thing in their case. So regardless of what I think, I have to give them what they want or they will just go to another vendor who will. But I will certainly keep your comments in mind for other situations. Thanks, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-781-2345 - Cell 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:08 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app Yeap, I understand, they do fall in the irrational, technophobe group I was mentioning. And, strangely enough, even in this case a web-based solution can help... In any scenario you need some kind of open door for upgrade, maintenance and other stuff; unless you physically come to the client's place with your toolbox on every issue, you probably have some kind of inward access to act upon workstations, server, LAN resources. A Web-based solution like FoxInCloud acts exactly the same except you only need a http access for maintenance: no 'remote desktop' or the like needed for 99% maintenance tasks. Just execute a VFP program to upload and substitute the new app version; users just see a 'maintenance in progress' message for 30 seconds and resume working without any loss of data or work context. It's just 'transparent': no need to warn them, ask them to log off, etc. Another strong point is the freedom of choice for users regarding their equipment: go for Mac if you like, or Linux, or pad, or whatever you see fit for your taste and needs. No constraint on 'windows xx', no pollution of your app by 3rd party software like antivirus, less administrative burden to control OS upgrades or the like: your users are totally free, even on their preferred browser. So, IMHO, offering a LAN server-based app can be a very pertinent offer to such a tech-agnostic client, especially if, with a tool like FoxInCloud, you can offer it at 1/5 th of your competitor's cost while making good money. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit : Thierry, In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very technical. So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't use resources that are open to the web. Desktop apps accessing a local SQL network tend to fit this category. Many of them use .dbf tables because they can't even set up an SQL server (which the current VFP app also supports.) With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine. Take care, Fletcher Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com 408-946-0960 - Work 501-421-9629 - Fax -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app Just completing my previous point ... If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for your IP at your expressed request. That's how our more security addicts clients operate. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit : Fletcher, Jeff, Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ? We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps ! In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a écrit :
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Try re-naming / deleting the foxuser.dbf. Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTim8mrvTtvrhV9t5K=yven56rfb...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Try this in your CONFIG.FPW: memlimit=40,16000,16000 Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktim8yxjbotpekq8utht-jzooyzh...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
On 06/24/2011 10:36 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: Try re-naming / deleting the foxuser.dbf. Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Johnsonj...@san-dc.com wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com Thanks but that did not work. Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04cbb3.20...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
On 06/24/2011 10:38 AM, Fred Taylor wrote: Try this in your CONFIG.FPW: memlimit=40,16000,16000 Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnsonj...@san-dc.com wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com Thanks Fred but that didn't work either. Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04cc79.4080...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Another thing you might try, since this is probably a fast machine: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q240982 Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktimp+wkyffamd0bhx9q8cdbwkaz...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Fred: I had to do that last year to get it working. Thanks, Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com On 06/24/2011 10:42 AM, Fred Taylor wrote: Another thing you might try, since this is probably a fast machine: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q240982 Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnsonj...@san-dc.com wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04ccd3.2040...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
There's another dbf that is created along with foxuser that could be suspect, but I can't remember the name of it. Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote: Try this in your CONFIG.FPW: memlimit=40,16000,16000 Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? -- Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTin-V2FsnmUaDJKXgP=hmirbskr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing - Fixed
.san-dc.com On 06/24/2011 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading. It was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen. I Googled and didn't find anything useful. XP is the machine. Any ideas? I am using Clamwin anti-virus. It hung on updating the database. I opened Clamwin and stopped the updating of the database and now Foxprow opens up fine! Thank you all for your suggestions! Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04ce4c.1090...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Jeff, Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives. Does that make a difference? Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1308938744.12331.1466910...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Off Topic: GPS and pad devices
Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only has WIFI connectivity? My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection to get GPS. Thanks for any enlightenment! Mike Copeland Genesis Group Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04db22.5060...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices
On 06/24/2011 11:44 AM, Mike Copeland wrote: Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only has WIFI connectivity? My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection to get GPS. Thanks for any enlightenment! Mike Copeland Genesis Group Software In order to get true GPS locations your device needs to be an actual GPS receiver. My Droid X has that. When the GPS is not enabled (as in phone without GPS) it does triangulation which is not very accurate depending on tower location. I know nothing about the new pad devices although they interest me. I would really like one that has Ubuntu on it. HTH Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04e3af.3020...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices
Mike, please use [OT] for such designation. Ken On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only has WIFI connectivity? My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection to get GPS. Thanks for any enlightenment! Mike Copeland Genesis Group Software [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTinJhvAYg_6pqth_Tm=e8y8hasb...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices
On Jun 24, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: Mike, please use [OT] for such designation. Or at least [NF], as this was a technical question, just not one about Fox. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/2ada55e4-f2c3-492c-9082-20fd9e009...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices
Any Andriod pad is Linux based...for what that's worth. I can't see anyone getting a Linux distro to work on a pad since the hardware is typically very non-standard. So, if cell phones have a GPS receiver in them, it's just a matter of including whatever chip provides that service in the pad circuitry...And that will be using satellite communication, bypassing cell technology and WIFI altogether. Hmmm. Interesting. Mike On 06/24/2011 11:44 AM, Mike Copeland wrote: Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only has WIFI connectivity? My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection to get GPS. Thanks for any enlightenment! Mike Copeland Genesis Group Software In order to get true GPS locations your device needs to be an actual GPS receiver. My Droid X has that. When the GPS is not enabled (as in phone without GPS) it does triangulation which is not very accurate depending on tower location. I know nothing about the new pad devices although they interest me. I would really like one that has Ubuntu on it. HTH Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04e47e.8070...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] GPS and pad devices
Ah! Thanks Ken. My apologies. Mike, please use [OT] for such designation. Ken On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only has WIFI connectivity? My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection to get GPS. Thanks for any enlightenment! Mike Copeland Genesis Group Software [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04e4a5.4040...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices
I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads os. Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to go there like sheep. Al -Original Message- On 06/24/2011 11:44 AM, Mike Copeland wrote: Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only has WIFI connectivity? My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection to get GPS. Thanks for any enlightenment! Mike Copeland Genesis Group Software In order to get true GPS locations your device needs to be an actual GPS receiver. My Droid X has that. When the GPS is not enabled (as in phone without GPS) it does triangulation which is not very accurate depending on tower location. I know nothing about the new pad devices although they interest me. I would really like one that has Ubuntu on it. HTH Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/64D4886106D24098B25020364197CDF0@gslredacer ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
On 06/24/2011 01:15 PM, Allen wrote: I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads os. Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to go there like sheep. Al -Original Message- I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I lost interest. Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able to run my applications on it. From what I have seen, they aren't their yet. Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04f46b.9080...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Hi Malcolm, I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Greene Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing Jeff, Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives. Does that make a difference? Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/004901cc32af$8f1a41b0$ad4ec510$@co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
On 6/24/2011 4:32 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I lost interest. Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able to run my applications on it. From what I have seen, they aren't their yet. But if your apps were upsized to FoxInCloud's idea, they could run on anything that had a browser, if I understand FIC correctly? (Of course, that means centralizing your data I guess. Colocated server? Thierry? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04f863.4000...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has it. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing Hi Malcolm, I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Greene Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing Jeff, Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives. Does that make a difference? Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/053f01cc32b0$e0f49520$a2ddbf60$@shelbynet.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Seems to me I remember something about it only happening if your CD drive was consecutive to existing drives. C:, D:, E: If you skipped a drive letter, it didn't happen. IIRC, we set our CD drives to M: and had no problems. Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:54 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.comwrote: When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has it. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing Hi Malcolm, I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Greene Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing Jeff, Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives. Does that make a difference? Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktimuq5zczm64vnjtb0kcxvaqaso...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
You got it right, once VFP app are 'adapted' with FoxInCloud, you or your client can run it from any browser through a web server, or on a windows desktop as usual - all with the very same code base. As I mentioned previously, we're going to post some video showing the same app running on desktop, within FoxInCloud in VFP IDE + browser / localhost web server, through browser on hosted webserver. It'll also show how web app can be debugged in IDE in a standard fashion Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Le 24 juin 2011 à 22:49, MB Software Solutions,LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com a écrit : But if your apps were upsized to FoxInCloud's idea, they could run on anything that had a browser, if I understand FIC correctly? (Of course, that means centralizing your data I guess. Colocated server? Thierry? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/34e5d5f4-bde8-48bc-967b-c68fe9cea...@foxincloud.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
That explains a lot! I always configure my machines to have a system partition and a data partition, Drive D:. Ob her machine drive D was the CD drive. Thanks. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey Sent: 24 June 2011 21:54 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has it. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing Hi Malcolm, I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Greene Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing Jeff, Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives. Does that make a difference? Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000301cc32b2$fb64b370$f22e1a50$@co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
On 6/24/2011 5:02 PM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: You got it right, once VFP app are 'adapted' with FoxInCloud, you or your client can run it from any browser through a web server, or on a windows desktop as usual - all with the very same code base. As I mentioned previously, we're going to post some video showing the same app running on desktop, within FoxInCloud in VFP IDE + browser / localhost web server, through browser on hosted webserver. It'll also show how web app can be debugged in IDE in a standard fashion Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud Very cool! Looking forward to it, and the new pricing you mentioned before too. -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com http://twitter.com/mbabcock16 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e04ff32.40...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference was built into the .EXE. I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped (on the machine that built the .EXE). I just don't remember all the details as I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working with FPD apps even today) Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: That explains a lot! I always configure my machines to have a system partition and a data partition, Drive D:. Ob her machine drive D was the CD drive. Thanks. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Harvey Sent: 24 June 2011 21:54 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has it. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing Hi Malcolm, I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Greene Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing Jeff, Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives. Does that make a difference? Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTi=oykrqsxs8rx6m8cgqukgypek...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference was built into the .EXE. I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped (on the machine that built the .EXE). I just don't remember all the details as I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working with FPD apps even today) Fred Fred, This problem still exists with Visual FoxPro when the EXE is compiled on a drive other than C:. Had a customer one time that did not have a C: as a HDD, but a CD -ROM, very odd, but due to upgrade paths it happened. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001201cc32b9$3e544370$bafcca50$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Really? I've never run across it on any VFP configuration, lucky I guess. I only ever saw it on FPW .EXEs. Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote: Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference was built into the .EXE. I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped (on the machine that built the .EXE). I just don't remember all the details as I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working with FPD apps even today) Fred Fred, This problem still exists with Visual FoxPro when the EXE is compiled on a drive other than C:. Had a customer one time that did not have a C: as a HDD, but a CD -ROM, very odd, but due to upgrade paths it happened. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTi=edG1m_TARJwPzxnd=be_fgpr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
What I have seen on VFP .EXEs may be similar in that they will load slowly when run on a system where the server doesn't exist (only using UNCs, no drive letters). Maybe it's the same thing. I think that SYS(2450) helps to get rid of the problem. Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote: Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference was built into the .EXE. I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped (on the machine that built the .EXE). I just don't remember all the details as I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working with FPD apps even today) Fred Fred, This problem still exists with Visual FoxPro when the EXE is compiled on a drive other than C:. Had a customer one time that did not have a C: as a HDD, but a CD -ROM, very odd, but due to upgrade paths it happened. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTinPqyVPuZgYH9k5-=61xeubn6s...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
All xBase commands are fine. In fact FiC is a wrapper around your app, very agnostic on how it deals with data. Just one thing: INTO CURSOR should be READWRITE thn Le 24/06/11 14:17, MB Software Solutions, LLC a écrit : On 6/24/2011 3:32 AM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: Just a minor point, your app can move to the web with any kind of database: VFP, SQLserver, PostGreSql, etc. FoxInCloud just does not care. VFP database on a web server is much more secured, reliable and fast: Secured: it resides in the app directory, NOT in the web site, so only the app access it, not user directly; you can set up whatever NTFS security scheme you see fit. Reliable: server startup and shut down are properly controlled; no more cdx or fpt broken because of a workstation unplugged in the midst of a transaction. Fast: no more indexes traveling over th wire; everything happens within the server. Can it use a lot of x-base commands in classic foxpro coding style, or must it be changed to be more tiered? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e050aba.2000...@zenbuyer.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
That seemed odd to me that they would start from scratch with a totally new OS for the iPad. I guess they realized that using one of their BSD derivatives as a launch point was not a smart move. I have one of the Asus Transformers, have had it about 3 weeks now. Love it and am very impressed. But it is odd to have a device that for almost all of my purposes is worthless without a data connection to the Internet. The Asus is WIFI only, but that means that there's no monthly data use fee, too. So, GPS as a feature is NOT standard operating feature for an iPad? Interesting. GPS seems like a no-brainer feature for a pad device. Mike On 06/24/2011 01:15 PM, Allen wrote: I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads os. Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to go there like sheep. Al -Original Message- I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I lost interest. Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able to run my applications on it. From what I have seen, they aren't their yet. Jeff --- Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com (623) 582-0323 www.san-dc.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e050bba.7000...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
My memory of this is what Fred states. If you just move the CD (or DVD) drive up the ladder to a higher letter, then recompile, the problem goes away. Moving the drive letter used to be a real hassle with Windows 98, but it's easy with XP. Mike Seems to me I remember something about it only happening if your CD drive was consecutive to existing drives. C:, D:, E: If you skipped a drive letter, it didn't happen. IIRC, we set our CD drives to M: and had no problems. Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:54 PM, John Harveyjohn.har...@shelbynet.comwrote: When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has it. John -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of John Weller Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing Hi Malcolm, I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be? John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Greene Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing Jeff, Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives. Does that make a difference? Malcolm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e050d20.8070...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: What I have seen on VFP .EXEs may be similar in that they will load slowly when run on a system where the server doesn't exist (only using UNCs, no drive letters). Maybe it's the same thing. I think that SYS(2450) helps to get rid of the problem. Fred Fred, Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can work out some reports of slow access. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001301cc32bd$47b20ac0$d7162040$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: Really? I've never run across it on any VFP configuration, lucky I guess. I only ever saw it on FPW .EXEs. Fred Fred, Put your source a D:, compile the EXE to D:, then move it to a machine that D: is the CD and no CD in the drive. I remember that was the scenario with VFP 8 build. May or may not exist with VFP 9. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001401cc32bd$7f72a7d0$7e57f770$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Fool and his money
Hi Everybody, Guy had a nightmare about a flood, now he is building a Noah's arc replica. Tying it in with Al Gore and Global Warming, of course. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43492787/ns/today-today_people/t/meet-man-whos-re-creating-noahs-ark?GT1=43001 -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e051059.6080...@verizon.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
It wasn't slow access, it was slow start up. Like a good 8-12 seconds slower. After the initial delay, everything was fine. Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote: Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: What I have seen on VFP .EXEs may be similar in that they will load slowly when run on a system where the server doesn't exist (only using UNCs, no drive letters). Maybe it's the same thing. I think that SYS(2450) helps to get rid of the problem. Fred Fred, Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can work out some reports of slow access. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTi=ft-3upta7xzvcz1jmvzeznhx...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: It wasn't slow access, it was slow start up. Like a good 8-12 seconds slower. After the initial delay, everything was fine. Fred Fred, Hmm.. XP users going to the same EXE are fast. Windows Vista/7 users are slow throughout the program. Still something I'll see about testing. Though I really think the problem is the network card drivers and OffLoad options that aren't handled correctly. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001501cc32bf$c8abdaf0$5a0390d0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
Tracy, SMB2 on Vista/7 vs SMB on XP? Fred On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote: Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: It wasn't slow access, it was slow start up. Like a good 8-12 seconds slower. After the initial delay, everything was fine. Fred Fred, Hmm.. XP users going to the same EXE are fast. Windows Vista/7 users are slow throughout the program. Still something I'll see about testing. Though I really think the problem is the network card drivers and OffLoad options that aren't handled correctly. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktik-dsgauovdxky5mbgbyupqqdd...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: Tracy, SMB2 on Vista/7 vs SMB on XP? Fred Fred, That is one of the things we point out, as well as a couple others: Anti-Virus and desktop search tools exclusion settings. On demand backup tools A few times it's been because the authentication of UNC paths instead of a mapped drive that we've seen major slow downs. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001601cc32c1$d4d86490$7e892db0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: FPW26 Freezing
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote: Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: Tracy, SMB2 on Vista/7 vs SMB on XP? Fred Fred, That is one of the things we point out, as well as a couple others: Anti-Virus and desktop search tools exclusion settings. On demand backup tools A few times it's been because the authentication of UNC paths instead of a mapped drive that we've seen major slow downs. Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software Tracy, It was definitely a server issue for us, not an AV one. We only noticed it when the development moved to a new server (new name) and the old one went offline. All the existing .EXE's suddenly started really slow, and the problem went away when they were recompiled on the new server. The compiled EXE's were never actually run from the development server, they were copied to a production server and ran from there. We even confirmed it by bringing the old development server back online and the older compiled .EXE's loaded fast again. Take the old developer server back offline and they started slowly. Fred --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktinzuh5wn8h-auwfcg4ktnjutb_...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can work out some reports of slow access. Slow reports is normally related to hard coded printer information with the saved printer for the report. VFP is searching the network for the printer and eventually times out before printing. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/00c501cc32c7$e2ccb910$a8662b30$@whitelightcomputing.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: That seemed odd to me that they would start from scratch with a totally new OS for the iPad. I guess they realized that using one of their BSD derivatives as a launch point was not a smart move. Not so odd when you consider that they were trying to create an entire new class of device. They were most certainly *not* trying to make a small version of a computer, in the manner of a netbook. Most computer devs who tried it were disappointed (at least initially) because they expected it to be a computer, but flatter, and it just isn't that. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/7f700b4c-9822-4514-88c1-36dd296a7...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
Luckily I've worked out the problems customers had with our reports. They are complaining working in the system doing everyday CRUD operations is slow when the EXE is on the network location. I might be an easy way to test test the SYS() setting. Tracy Rick Schummer pro...@whitelightcomputing.com wrote: Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can work out some reports of slow access. Slow reports is normally related to hard coded printer information with the saved printer for the report. VFP is searching the network for the printer and eventually times out before printing. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/00c501cc32c7$e2ccb910$a8662b30$@whitelightcomputing.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/00c501cc32c7$e2ccb910$a8662b30$@whitelightcomputing.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/p9e68msjt2b8wuyfj9kl4jxe.1308961549...@email.android.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: FPW26 Freezing
John, I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be? I had this problem once but can't remember the solution. If you're still having the problem I'll pull my old source and see if I can find the solution. Let me know. Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1308964560.32545.1467010...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote: On 06/24/2011 01:15 PM, Allen wrote: I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads os. Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to go there like sheep. Al -Original Message- I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I lost interest. Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able to run my applications on it. From what I have seen, they aren't their yet. -- The iPad is great. Bought one for my wife for our last years anniversary and she loves it. I thought it was going to be a reader + for her, but she doesn't like the content at the price available on it compared to target for all of her books. Instead it is 100% entertainment for her. Games, facebook, email, and much more. -- Stephen Russell Unified Health Services 60 Germantown Court Suite 220 Cordova, TN 38018 Telephone: 888.510.2667 901.246-0159 cell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktinrtx3lkziyxjgei+htruzkhn3...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP automation
Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. -- Regards Sytze de Boer Kiss Software --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktikxnfps0lrzflpew+_n027rgw+...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP automation
Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the GetObject statement? Mike Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e055927.9070...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
Granted VFP program design is 95% prone to sql injection. You combine text to form the command and you execute that generated statement. Poof SQL Injection is going to be difficult to stop. I'm obviously completely ignorant about this because I do not understand this SQL Injection issue. In order to execute code that modifies a table you have to have a valid EXECUTABLE statement, right? So something like DROP TABLE would be a bad thing. What I don't understand is how any sane person would design a query interface that results in a statement like DROP TABLE being *executed*. In my systems, somebody could put DROP TABLE sometable into a search blank, sure. And the result in my code would be something like: Select foo from bar where bar == DROP TABLE sometable. That's not executable, and it won't hurt anything. So much for searches. What about data entry? Well again: Insert into foo (myfield) values (DROP TABLE) won't do any harm either. Nor would Update foo set myfield = DROP TABLE where myotherfield = DELETE ALL or whatever else you can imagine. In fact, as long as you don't let users write out an entire SQL SELECT expression from scratch, I can't think of any possible combination of data entry controls and code that would result in an EXECUTABLE expression that damages data. Why would anybody design an interface that lets ordinary users have control of the command terms in a SQL expression, as opposed to just values that go into, or come out of, tables? Can somebody explain this to me? Thanks. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5.2.1.1.1.20110624234107.0204a...@pop3.frontiernet.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP automation
Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a , On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the GetObject statement? Mike Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktingwocpchflvkskt7oxmxj2fhs...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Ken Dibble krdib...@frontiernet.net wrote: Granted VFP program design is 95% prone to sql injection. You combine text to form the command and you execute that generated statement. Poof SQL Injection is going to be difficult to stop. I'm obviously completely ignorant about this because I do not understand this SQL Injection issue. In order to execute code that modifies a table you have to have a valid EXECUTABLE statement, right? So something like DROP TABLE would be a bad thing. What I don't understand is how any sane person would design a query interface that results in a statement like DROP TABLE being *executed*. -- http://ferruh.mavituna.com/sql-injection-cheatsheet-oku/ -- Stephen Russell Unified Health Services 60 Germantown Court Suite 220 Cordova, TN 38018 Telephone: 888.510.2667 901.246-0159 cell ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTi=g=uk+eozbfn45ge_7fwjukjm...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP automation
And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is already running you can prevent additional instances from being started by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you have shown. So is the application already running? If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't. Mike Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a , On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the GetObject statement? Mike Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e055d06.5090...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP automation
Hi Mike I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running about 6 times, but no longer. I have closed Outlook I've changed my code to oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application) Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is already running you can prevent additional instances from being started by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you have shown. So is the application already running? If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't. Mike Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a , On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the GetObject statement? Mike Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/BANLkTinCcwZDNAaby2Frfrk1jW_M=f2...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP automation
Sytze I'm testing it on VFP9SP2, Windows XP, and if I start VFP, then execute GetObject(,'Excel.Application') I get an OLE error. If I include a first parameter, a reference to an XLS file GetObject('C:\Spreadem.xls','Excel.Application') then I do not get an error. If I then execute the statement GetObject(,'Excel.Application') I do not get an OLE error, because Excel is already running. I can't comment regarding Outlook as I do not have it installed on any system I have access to. Mike Hi Mike I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running about 6 times, but no longer. I have closed Outlook I've changed my code to oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application) Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is already running you can prevent additional instances from being started by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you have shown. So is the application already running? If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't. Mike Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a , On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the GetObject statement? Mike Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e056376.8040...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
In order to execute code that modifies a table you have to have a valid EXECUTABLE statement, right? So something like DROP TABLE would be a bad thing. What I don't understand is how any sane person would design a query interface that results in a statement like DROP TABLE being *executed*. -- http://ferruh.mavituna.com/sql-injection-cheatsheet-oku/ Well yeah, if you have complete unfettered access to a server you can, I imagine, run any number of horrible exectable statements on it. However it would appear that all of these multitudinous examples rely on just two basic obvious dimwitted moves: 1. Allowing somebody to type in the name of a table or field instead of making them choose it from a list of valid options. 2. Somehow allowing strings to be entered into a SQL statement without enclosing them in appropriate delimiters. So again I ask, why would anybody design a data-entry or query interface that lets people do that? Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5.2.1.1.1.20110625002431.02012...@pop3.frontiernet.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP automation
Mike I really appreciate you're taking the time to do this I'll box on and test further S On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Sytze I'm testing it on VFP9SP2, Windows XP, and if I start VFP, then execute GetObject(,'Excel.Application') I get an OLE error. If I include a first parameter, a reference to an XLS file GetObject('C:\Spreadem.xls','Excel.Application') then I do not get an error. If I then execute the statement GetObject(,'Excel.Application') I do not get an OLE error, because Excel is already running. I can't comment regarding Outlook as I do not have it installed on any system I have access to. Mike Hi Mike I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running about 6 times, but no longer. I have closed Outlook I've changed my code to oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application) Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is already running you can prevent additional instances from being started by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you have shown. So is the application already running? If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't. Mike Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a , On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the GetObject statement? Mike Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/banlktinyowpvwoomc2-4yo80ct9qp5u...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices
Yep, the pad seems to be closer to a cell phone than a computer. I was surprised at how the difference plays out in what you expect it to accomplish. Pretty much, if it's able to consume from the Internet, it works great (with the exception of Angry Birds, of course.) Other wise, to me at least, it seems crippled (although Angry birds almost makes up for it.) I keep forgetting that it's MicroSofff that tries to turn everything into a nail for their Windows hammer. Mike On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Mike Copeland wrote: That seemed odd to me that they would start from scratch with a totally new OS for the iPad. I guess they realized that using one of their BSD derivatives as a launch point was not a smart move. Not so odd when you consider that they were trying to create an entire new class of device. They were most certainly *not* trying to make a small version of a computer, in the manner of a netbook. Most computer devs who tried it were disappointed (at least initially) because they expected it to be a computer, but flatter, and it just isn't that. -- Ed Leafe [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e05666f.8070...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP automation
Not a problemmy point was (is) that it seems to be working as they intended. Or else I'm just not grokking what you're saying. (Don't worry, happens all the time lately...getting old.) Mike Mike I really appreciate you're taking the time to do this I'll box on and test further S On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Sytze I'm testing it on VFP9SP2, Windows XP, and if I start VFP, then execute GetObject(,'Excel.Application') I get an OLE error. If I include a first parameter, a reference to an XLS file GetObject('C:\Spreadem.xls','Excel.Application') then I do not get an error. If I then execute the statement GetObject(,'Excel.Application') I do not get an OLE error, because Excel is already running. I can't comment regarding Outlook as I do not have it installed on any system I have access to. Mike Hi Mike I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running about 6 times, but no longer. I have closed Outlook I've changed my code to oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application) Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is already running you can prevent additional instances from being started by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you have shown. So is the application already running? If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't. Mike Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a , On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the GetObject statement? Mike Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ? oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application) error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc If I change it to CreateObject I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception This works fine ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application) I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not installed on the laptop. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4e0566f8.8010...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.