Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Just a minor point, your app can move to the web with any kind of database: 
VFP, SQLserver, PostGreSql, etc. FoxInCloud just does not care.

VFP database on a web server is much more secured, reliable and fast:
 Secured: it resides in the app directory, NOT in the web site, so only the app 
access it, not user directly; you can set up whatever NTFS security scheme you 
see fit. 
 Reliable: server startup and shut down are properly controlled; no more cdx or 
fpt broken because of a workstation unplugged in the midst of a transaction. 
 Fast: no more indexes traveling over th wire; everything happens within the 
server.

Thierry Nivelet
http://foxincloud.com/
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
écrit :

 Thierry,
 
 In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very 
 technical.  So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't use 
 resources that are open to the web.  Desktop apps accessing a local SQL 
 network tend to fit this category.  Many of them use .dbf tables because they 
 can't even set up an SQL server (which the current VFP app also supports.)
 
 With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine.
 
 Take care,
 
 Fletcher
 
 Fletcher Johnson
 fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com
 408-946-0960 - Work
 501-421-9629 - Fax
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
 Thierry Nivelet
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
 
 Just completing my previous point ...
 
 If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always 
 install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it 
 (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for 
 your IP at your expressed request. 
 
 That's how our more security addicts clients operate. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit :
 
 Fletcher, Jeff,
 
 Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ?
 
 We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps !
 
 In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user 
 events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and 
 SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
 écrit :
 
 Mike,
 
 Due to security reasons, it cannot be a web or cloud based app.  So 
 that limits some of the choices.  Also, it is for one of those 
 markets where Windows desktops prevail almost universally.  So there 
 is limited need for cross platform support.
 
 We are planning on a long term conversion, with our goal being to 
 have the entire application suite converted by the 2015.  This is not 
 a trivial application.
 
 So we will continue to support/enhance the VFP products.  But we are 
 running into IT departments that are making roadblocks to new sales 
 because of the
 2015 deadline.
 
 What other languages would you recommend, now that you know more?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Fletcher
 
 Fletcher Johnson
 fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com
 408-946-0960 - Work
 501-421-9629 - Fax
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On 
 Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:07 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
 
 On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Fletcher Johnson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am working with a new company that has a successful VFP app that 
 they need to convert to .NET as MS will be cancelling support for 
 VFP soon and the customers IT departments are getting nervous.  So I 
 have been asked to help with a rewrite.
 
 I am sure there have been many discussions on this topic.  Can 
 anyone point me to some of the more current and complete discussions 
 on this topic (on this list or otherwise)?
 
 The new app will continue to be a desktop app and will have the same 
 interface (so there is no retraining required to implement the new
 version).
 It currently has the option to have data stored as local .dbf tables 
 or on an MS SQL table.  So we also need to continue to support 
 local/disconnected data sets.
 
 We are looking for suggestions on application frameworks, data 
 libraries (ORM, etc.), VS technologies
 (Silverlight/WPF/Winform/ADO/etc.)  and other resources that will 
 aid in the conversion.  We are not looking for something that will 
 just convert the code to .net as there are some key architectural 
 changes we
 want to implement under the hood.
 
 Any links or other references to point me in the right direction 
 will be greatly appreciated.
 
 
 Wow!  

Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Yeap, I understand, they do fall in the irrational, technophobe group I was 
mentioning.

And, strangely enough, even in this case a web-based solution can help...

In any scenario you need some kind of open door for upgrade, maintenance and 
other stuff; unless you physically come to the client's place with your toolbox 
on every issue, you probably have some kind of inward access to act upon 
workstations, server, LAN resources.

A Web-based solution like FoxInCloud acts exactly the same except you only need 
a http access for maintenance: no 'remote desktop' or the like needed for 99% 
maintenance tasks. Just execute a VFP program to upload and substitute the new 
app version; users just see a 'maintenance in progress' message for 30 seconds 
and resume working without any loss of data or work context.
It's just 'transparent': no need to warn them, ask them to log off, etc.

Another strong point is the freedom of choice for users regarding their 
equipment: go for Mac if you like, or Linux, or pad, or whatever you see fit 
for your taste and needs. No constraint on 'windows xx', no pollution of your 
app by 3rd party software like antivirus, less administrative burden to control 
OS upgrades or the like: your users are totally free, even on their preferred 
browser.

So, IMHO, offering a LAN server-based app can be a very pertinent offer to such 
a tech-agnostic client, especially if, with a tool like FoxInCloud, you can 
offer it at 1/5 th of your competitor's cost while making good money.

Thierry Nivelet
http://foxincloud.com/
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
écrit :

 Thierry,
 
 In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very 
 technical.  So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't use 
 resources that are open to the web.  Desktop apps accessing a local SQL 
 network tend to fit this category.  Many of them use .dbf tables because they 
 can't even set up an SQL server (which the current VFP app also supports.)
 
 With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine.
 
 Take care,
 
 Fletcher
 
 Fletcher Johnson
 fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com
 408-946-0960 - Work
 501-421-9629 - Fax
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
 Thierry Nivelet
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
 
 Just completing my previous point ...
 
 If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always 
 install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it 
 (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for 
 your IP at your expressed request. 
 
 That's how our more security addicts clients operate. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit :
 
 Fletcher, Jeff,
 
 Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ?
 
 We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps !
 
 In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user 
 events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and 
 SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
 écrit :
 
 Mike,
 
 Due to security reasons, it cannot be a web or cloud based app.  So 
 that limits some of the choices.  Also, it is for one of those 
 markets where Windows desktops prevail almost universally.  So there 
 is limited need for cross platform support.
 
 We are planning on a long term conversion, with our goal being to 
 have the entire application suite converted by the 2015.  This is not 
 a trivial application.
 
 So we will continue to support/enhance the VFP products.  But we are 
 running into IT departments that are making roadblocks to new sales 
 because of the
 2015 deadline.
 
 What other languages would you recommend, now that you know more?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Fletcher
 
 Fletcher Johnson
 fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com
 408-946-0960 - Work
 501-421-9629 - Fax
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On 
 Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:07 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
 
 On 6/22/2011 3:58 PM, Fletcher Johnson wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am working with a new company that has a successful VFP app that 
 they need to convert to .NET as MS will be cancelling support for 
 VFP soon and the customers IT departments are getting nervous.  So I 
 have been asked to help with a rewrite.
 
 I am sure there have been many discussions on this topic.  Can 
 anyone 

[NF] Awesome IT revenge story

2011-06-24 Thread Michael Madigan
It's probably worth the 100 hours of community service.  LOL

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/22/hacker-ceo-presentation-porn/

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RE: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story

2011-06-24 Thread Adam Buckland
When I worked in the financial services software market we had a product
for pensions but for the internal Alpha presentation,  the product name
we chose wouldn't fit on the screen so we abbreviated it and drew
straws... A guy known as JJ had the dubious pleasure of standing in
front of the whole division (a couple of hundred people) and announcing
that we have developed  Computels Universal Numeric Translator For Life
Assures Pension Systems but as it was too long we had shortened it to
CUNT FLAPS, he then flashed the name up on the projector...

The room was silent for about 2 seconds before the first person choked
and started laughing. 

That was the last time we were able to choose a product name... it
became Envoy when launched


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Subject: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story

It's probably worth the 100 hours of community service.  LOL

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/22/hacker-ceo-presentation-porn/

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RE: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story

2011-06-24 Thread Stephen Weeks

Is that true ... bloody hilarious

On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:21 +0100, Adam Buckland
adam.buckl...@eurohill.com wrote:
 When I worked in the financial services software market we had a product
 for pensions but for the internal Alpha presentation,  the product name
 we chose wouldn't fit on the screen so we abbreviated it and drew
 straws... A guy known as JJ had the dubious pleasure of standing in
 front of the whole division (a couple of hundred people) and announcing
 that we have developed  Computels Universal Numeric Translator For Life
 Assures Pension Systems but as it was too long we had shortened it to
 CUNT FLAPS, he then flashed the name up on the projector...
 
 The room was silent for about 2 seconds before the first person choked
 and started laughing. 
 
 That was the last time we were able to choose a product name... it
 became Envoy when launched
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
 Behalf Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: 24 June 2011 09:10
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: [NF] Awesome IT revenge story
 
 It's probably worth the 100 hours of community service.  LOL
 
 http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/06/22/hacker-ceo-presentation-porn/
 
[excessive quoting removed by server]

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[OT] Wisdom in the inbox

2011-06-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody,

The conclusion: The Arabs are not happy!


 ·They are not happy in Gaza .

 ·They are not happy in the West Bank .

 ·They are not happy in Jerusalem .

 ·They are not happy in Israel .

 ·They are not happy in Egypt .

 ·They are not happy in Libya .

 ·They are not happy in Algeria .

 ·They are not happy in Tunis .

 ·They are not happy in Morocco .

 ·They are not happy in Yemen .

 ·They are not happy in Iraq .

 ·They are not happy in Afghanistan .

 ·They are not happy in Syria .

 ·They are not happy in Lebanon .

 ·They are not happy in Sudan .

 ·They are not happy in Jordan .

 ·They are not happy in Iran .


 Where are the Arabs happy?


 ·They are happy in Britain .

 ·They are happy in France .

 ·They are happy in Italy .

 ·They are happy in Germany .

 ·They are happy in Sweden .

 ·They are happy in Holland .

 ·They are happy in Belgium .

 ·They are happy in Norway .

 ·They are happy in the U.S.A.

 ·They are happy in Romania .

 ·They are happy in Hungary .


 They are happy in any other country in the world that 
is not under Muslim rule.


 And whom do they blame?


 ·  Not Islam.

 ·  Not their leadership.

 ·  Not themselves.


 But the same countries in which they are happy to live.

Democracy is really good for them:


 In a democracy  they can live comfortably at the 
taxpayers expense, enjoy the high quality of life which they did not 
build and work for, they don’t have to be productive and earn a living, 
they can be wild, pray in the streets, openly plot and preach against 
the West, exploit social services  and bite  the hand that feeds them.



And by the time the free world wakes up, it will be too late.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/
http://elect-pete-theisen.com/

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Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 6/24/2011 3:32 AM, Thierry Nivelet wrote:
 Just a minor point, your app can move to the web with any kind of database: 
 VFP, SQLserver, PostGreSql, etc. FoxInCloud just does not care.

 VFP database on a web server is much more secured, reliable and fast:
   Secured: it resides in the app directory, NOT in the web site, so only the 
 app access it, not user directly; you can set up whatever NTFS security 
 scheme you see fit.
   Reliable: server startup and shut down are properly controlled; no more cdx 
 or fpt broken because of a workstation unplugged in the midst of a 
 transaction.
   Fast: no more indexes traveling over th wire; everything happens within the 
 server.


Can it use a lot of x-base commands in classic foxpro coding style, or 
must it be changed to be more tiered?

-- 
Mike Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
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VCX Editor

2011-06-24 Thread Paul Newton
Hi all

Does anybody know where I can get a copy of the the VCX Editor described here:

Beyond the Class Designer-The VCX Editor by Kevin McNeish (FoxTalk Sept 2000)

Thanks

Paul Newton


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Re: VCX Editor

2011-06-24 Thread Kevin Cully
You might want to check out HackCX from White Light Computing and Rick 
Schummer.

http://www.whitelightcomputing.com/prodhackcxpro.htm

-Kevin


On 06/24/2011 10:48 AM, Paul Newton wrote:
 Does anybody know where I can get a copy of the the VCX Editor described here:

 Beyond the Class Designer-The VCX Editor by Kevin McNeish (FoxTalk Sept 2000)

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RE: VCX Editor

2011-06-24 Thread Rick Schummer
 Beyond the Class Designer-The VCX Editor by Kevin McNeish (FoxTalk Sept 
 2000)

You can get all the back issues and examples and downloads for Fox Talk 
articles if you are a current subscriber to
FoxRockX. dFPUG, owners/publishers of FoxRockX own the rights to all Fox Talk 
articles, with a few exceptions.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

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www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com



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RE: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Fletcher Johnson
Thierry,

You have some good points.  But our customers don’t have or want to manage a 
webserver. They just want to install the application and go.  And they also 
feel that using a browser opens them up to potential hacks - which is not a 
good thing in their case.  So regardless of what I think, I have to give them 
what they want or they will just go to another vendor who will.

But I will certainly keep your comments in mind for other situations.

Thanks,

Fletcher 


Fletcher Johnson
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408-946-0960 - Work
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-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Thierry Nivelet
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:08 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

Yeap, I understand, they do fall in the irrational, technophobe group I was 
mentioning.

And, strangely enough, even in this case a web-based solution can help...

In any scenario you need some kind of open door for upgrade, maintenance and 
other stuff; unless you physically come to the client's place with your toolbox 
on every issue, you probably have some kind of inward access to act upon 
workstations, server, LAN resources.

A Web-based solution like FoxInCloud acts exactly the same except you only need 
a http access for maintenance: no 'remote desktop' or the like needed for 99% 
maintenance tasks. Just execute a VFP program to upload and substitute the new 
app version; users just see a 'maintenance in progress' message for 30 seconds 
and resume working without any loss of data or work context.
It's just 'transparent': no need to warn them, ask them to log off, etc.

Another strong point is the freedom of choice for users regarding their 
equipment: go for Mac if you like, or Linux, or pad, or whatever you see fit 
for your taste and needs. No constraint on 'windows xx', no pollution of your 
app by 3rd party software like antivirus, less administrative burden to control 
OS upgrades or the like: your users are totally free, even on their preferred 
browser.

So, IMHO, offering a LAN server-based app can be a very pertinent offer to such 
a tech-agnostic client, especially if, with a tool like FoxInCloud, you can 
offer it at 1/5 th of your competitor's cost while making good money.

Thierry Nivelet
http://foxincloud.com/
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
écrit :

 Thierry,
 
 In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very 
 technical.  So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't 
 use resources that are open to the web.  Desktop apps accessing a 
 local SQL network tend to fit this category.  Many of them use .dbf 
 tables because they can't even set up an SQL server (which the current 
 VFP app also supports.)
 
 With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine.
 
 Take care,
 
 Fletcher
 
 Fletcher Johnson
 fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com
 408-946-0960 - Work
 501-421-9629 - Fax
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On 
 Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
 
 Just completing my previous point ...
 
 If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always 
 install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it 
 (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for 
 your IP at your expressed request. 
 
 That's how our more security addicts clients operate. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit :
 
 Fletcher, Jeff,
 
 Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ?
 
 We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps !
 
 In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user 
 events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; and 
 SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
 écrit :
 
 Mike,
 
 Due to security reasons, it cannot be a web or cloud based app.  So 
 that limits some of the choices.  Also, it is for one of those 
 markets where Windows desktops prevail almost universally.  So there 
 is limited need for cross platform support.
 
 We are planning on a long term conversion, with our goal being to 
 have the entire application suite converted by the 2015.  This is 
 not a trivial application.
 
 So we will continue to support/enhance the VFP products.  But we are 
 running into IT departments that are making roadblocks to new sales 
 because of the
 2015 deadline.
 
 

FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Johnson
I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It 
was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I 
Googled and didn't find anything useful.

XP is the machine.

Any ideas?

-- 
Jeff

---

Jeff Johnson
j...@san-dc.com
(623) 582-0323

www.san-dc.com


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Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Great,

I appreciate your open mind, very much in line with the excellent atmosphere I 
breathe from this mailing list.

I'm glad I joined a month ago, and would like to thank members for blowing this 
amount of fresh air. 

Fletcher, I wish you all the best with your client.

Thierry Nivelet
http://foxincloud.com/
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

PS: we'll soon cast a couple of videos showing the whole FIC process, including 
maitenance.

Le 24 juin 2011 à 19:08, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
écrit :

 Thierry,
 
 You have some good points.  But our customers don’t have or want to manage a 
 webserver. They just want to install the application and go.  And they also 
 feel that using a browser opens them up to potential hacks - which is not a 
 good thing in their case.  So regardless of what I think, I have to give them 
 what they want or they will just go to another vendor who will.
 
 But I will certainly keep your comments in mind for other situations.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Fletcher 
 
 
 Fletcher Johnson
 fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com
 408-781-2345 - Cell
 408-946-0960 - Work
 501-421-9629 - Fax
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
 Thierry Nivelet
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:08 AM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
 
 Yeap, I understand, they do fall in the irrational, technophobe group I was 
 mentioning.
 
 And, strangely enough, even in this case a web-based solution can help...
 
 In any scenario you need some kind of open door for upgrade, maintenance and 
 other stuff; unless you physically come to the client's place with your 
 toolbox on every issue, you probably have some kind of inward access to act 
 upon workstations, server, LAN resources.
 
 A Web-based solution like FoxInCloud acts exactly the same except you only 
 need a http access for maintenance: no 'remote desktop' or the like needed 
 for 99% maintenance tasks. Just execute a VFP program to upload and 
 substitute the new app version; users just see a 'maintenance in progress' 
 message for 30 seconds and resume working without any loss of data or work 
 context.
 It's just 'transparent': no need to warn them, ask them to log off, etc.
 
 Another strong point is the freedom of choice for users regarding their 
 equipment: go for Mac if you like, or Linux, or pad, or whatever you see fit 
 for your taste and needs. No constraint on 'windows xx', no pollution of your 
 app by 3rd party software like antivirus, less administrative burden to 
 control OS upgrades or the like: your users are totally free, even on their 
 preferred browser.
 
 So, IMHO, offering a LAN server-based app can be a very pertinent offer to 
 such a tech-agnostic client, especially if, with a tool like FoxInCloud, you 
 can offer it at 1/5 th of your competitor's cost while making good money.
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 24 juin 2011 à 01:43, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
 écrit :
 
 Thierry,
 
 In addition to being very security conscious, they are also not very 
 technical.  So they need a very easy to use application that doesn't 
 use resources that are open to the web.  Desktop apps accessing a 
 local SQL network tend to fit this category.  Many of them use .dbf 
 tables because they can't even set up an SQL server (which the current 
 VFP app also supports.)
 
 With my other gig (a defense contractor), your approach would work just fine.
 
 Take care,
 
 Fletcher
 
 Fletcher Johnson
 fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com
 408-946-0960 - Work
 501-421-9629 - Fax
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On 
 Behalf Of Thierry Nivelet
 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:47 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app
 
 Just completing my previous point ...
 
 If your client has real irrational concerns about security, you can always 
 install the 'web' server in his LAN, and keep maintenance control over it 
 (upgrade, clean up, etc.) through a dedicated port specifically opened for 
 your IP at your expressed request. 
 
 That's how our more security addicts clients operate. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 23 juin 2011 à 04:48, Thierry Nivelet tnive...@foxincloud.com a écrit :
 
 Fletcher, Jeff,
 
 Regarding web apps, what security issue do you think of ?
 
 We have clients with professional secret duty using web apps !
 
 In the past data used to travel over the web; with Ajax web apps, only user 
 events and UI change orders travel, nothing significant or compromising; 
 and SSL easily fills this residual security 'leak'. 
 
 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud
 
 Le 22 juin 2011 à 23:23, Fletcher Johnson fletchersjohn...@yahoo.com a 
 écrit :
 
 

Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Richard Quilhot
Try re-naming / deleting the foxuser.dbf.

Rick Q
quilh...@gmail.com




On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:

 I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
 was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
 Googled and didn't find anything useful.

 XP is the machine.

 Any ideas?

 --
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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
Try this in your CONFIG.FPW:

memlimit=40,16000,16000

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:

 I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
 was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
 Googled and didn't find anything useful.

 XP is the machine.

 Any ideas?

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Johnson

On 06/24/2011 10:36 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote:
 Try re-naming / deleting the foxuser.dbf.

 Rick Q
 quilh...@gmail.com




 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jeff Johnsonj...@san-dc.com  wrote:

 I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
 was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
 Googled and didn't find anything useful.

 XP is the machine.

 Any ideas?

 --
 Jeff

 ---

 Jeff Johnson
 j...@san-dc.com
 (623) 582-0323

 www.san-dc.com




Thanks but that did not work.

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Johnson

On 06/24/2011 10:38 AM, Fred Taylor wrote:
 Try this in your CONFIG.FPW:

 memlimit=40,16000,16000

 Fred


 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnsonj...@san-dc.com  wrote:

 I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
 was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
 Googled and didn't find anything useful.

 XP is the machine.

 Any ideas?

 --
 Jeff

 ---

 Jeff Johnson
 j...@san-dc.com
 (623) 582-0323

 www.san-dc.com



Thanks Fred but that didn't work either.

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
Another thing you might try, since this is probably a fast machine:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q240982

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:

 I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
 was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
 Googled and didn't find anything useful.

 XP is the machine.

 Any ideas?

 --
 Jeff

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 j...@san-dc.com
 (623) 582-0323

 www.san-dc.com


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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Johnson
Fred:  I had to do that last year to get it working.

Thanks,

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On 06/24/2011 10:42 AM, Fred Taylor wrote:
 Another thing you might try, since this is probably a fast machine:

 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q240982

 Fred


 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnsonj...@san-dc.com  wrote:

 I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
 was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
 Googled and didn't find anything useful.

 XP is the machine.

 Any ideas?

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Richard Quilhot
There's another dbf that is created along with foxuser that could be
suspect, but I can't remember the name of it.

Rick Q
quilh...@gmail.com




On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Fred Taylor fbtay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Try this in your CONFIG.FPW:

 memlimit=40,16000,16000

 Fred


 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:

  I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
  was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
  Googled and didn't find anything useful.
 
  XP is the machine.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  --
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Re: FPW26 Freezing - Fixed

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Johnson
.san-dc.com

On 06/24/2011 10:31 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
 I have FPW26 on my machine to work on an app that I am upgrading.  It
 was working last year, but now it freezes on the splash screen.  I
 Googled and didn't find anything useful.

 XP is the machine.

 Any ideas?

I am using Clamwin anti-virus.  It hung on updating the database.  I 
opened Clamwin and stopped the updating of the database and now Foxprow 
opens up fine!

Thank you all for your suggestions!

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Malcolm Greene
Jeff,

Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives.

Does that make a difference?

Malcolm

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Off Topic: GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only 
has WIFI connectivity?

My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection 
to get GPS.

Thanks for any enlightenment!

Mike Copeland
Genesis Group Software

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Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Johnson

On 06/24/2011 11:44 AM, Mike Copeland wrote:
 Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only
 has WIFI connectivity?

 My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection
 to get GPS.

 Thanks for any enlightenment!

 Mike Copeland
 Genesis Group Software

In order to get true GPS locations your device needs to be an actual GPS 
receiver.  My Droid X has that.  When the GPS is not enabled (as in 
phone without GPS) it does triangulation which is not very accurate 
depending on tower location.

I know nothing about the new pad devices although they interest me.  I 
would really like one that has Ubuntu on it.

HTH

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Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
Mike, please use [OT] for such designation.

Ken

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only
 has WIFI connectivity?

 My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection
 to get GPS.

 Thanks for any enlightenment!

 Mike Copeland
 Genesis Group Software

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Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 24, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote:

 Mike, please use [OT] for such designation.

Or at least [NF], as this was a technical question, just not one about 
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Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
Any Andriod pad is Linux based...for what that's worth.

I can't see anyone getting a Linux distro to work on a pad since the 
hardware is typically very non-standard.

So, if cell phones have a GPS receiver in them, it's just a matter of 
including whatever chip provides that service in the pad circuitry...And 
that will be using satellite communication, bypassing cell technology 
and WIFI altogether. Hmmm. Interesting.

Mike

 On 06/24/2011 11:44 AM, Mike Copeland wrote:
 Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only
 has WIFI connectivity?

 My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection
 to get GPS.

 Thanks for any enlightenment!

 Mike Copeland
 Genesis Group Software

 In order to get true GPS locations your device needs to be an actual GPS
 receiver.  My Droid X has that.  When the GPS is not enabled (as in
 phone without GPS) it does triangulation which is not very accurate
 depending on tower location.

 I know nothing about the new pad devices although they interest me.  I
 would really like one that has Ubuntu on it.

 HTH

 Jeff

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[OT] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
Ah! Thanks Ken. My apologies.

 Mike, please use [OT] for such designation.

 Ken

 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only
 has WIFI connectivity?

 My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection
 to get GPS.

 Thanks for any enlightenment!

 Mike Copeland
 Genesis Group Software

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[NF] Re: Off Topic: GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Allen
I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have 
GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use 
for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads 
os.
Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to 
go there like sheep.
Al

-Original Message- 


On 06/24/2011 11:44 AM, Mike Copeland wrote:
 Anyone know if GPS functionality is possible with a pad device that only
 has WIFI connectivity?

 My understanding is that you have to have either 3GL or 4GL connection
 to get GPS.

 Thanks for any enlightenment!

 Mike Copeland
 Genesis Group Software

In order to get true GPS locations your device needs to be an actual GPS
receiver.  My Droid X has that.  When the GPS is not enabled (as in
phone without GPS) it does triangulation which is not very accurate
depending on tower location.

I know nothing about the new pad devices although they interest me.  I
would really like one that has Ubuntu on it.

HTH

Jeff

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(623) 582-0323

www.san-dc.com




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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Johnson

On 06/24/2011 01:15 PM, Allen wrote:
 I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have
 GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use
 for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads
 os.
 Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to
 go there like sheep.
 Al

 -Original Message-

I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I 
lost interest.  Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able 
to run my applications on it.  From what I have seen, they aren't their 
yet.

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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread John Weller
Hi Malcolm,

I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found
that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that
be?

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631 

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 Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing
 
 Jeff,
 
 Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives.
 
 Does that make a difference?
 
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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 6/24/2011 4:32 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote:
 I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I
 lost interest.  Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able
 to run my applications on it.  From what I have seen, they aren't their
 yet.


But if your apps were upsized to FoxInCloud's idea, they could run on 
anything that had a browser, if I understand FIC correctly?  (Of 
course, that means centralizing your data I guess.  Colocated server?

Thierry?


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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread John Harvey
When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix
out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has
it.

John

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Of John Weller
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing

Hi Malcolm,

I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found
that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that
be?

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631 

 -Original Message-
 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com 
 [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
On Behalf
 Of Malcolm Greene
 Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing
 
 Jeff,
 
 Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives.
 
 Does that make a difference?
 
 Malcolm
 
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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
Seems to me I remember something about it only happening if your CD drive
was consecutive to existing drives.  C:, D:, E:

If you skipped a drive letter, it didn't happen.  IIRC, we set our CD drives
to M: and had no problems.

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:54 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.comwrote:

 When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix
 out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has
 it.

 John

 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
 Of John Weller
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing

 Hi Malcolm,

 I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then
 found
 that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that
 be?

 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631

  -Original Message-
  From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
  [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
  Of Malcolm Greene
  Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06
  To: profoxt...@leafe.com
  Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing
 
  Jeff,
 
  Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives.
 
  Does that make a difference?
 
  Malcolm
 
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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Thierry Nivelet
You got it right, once VFP app are 'adapted' with FoxInCloud, you or your 
client can run it from any browser through a web server, or on a windows 
desktop as usual - all with the very same code base.

As I mentioned previously, we're going to post some video showing the same app 
running on desktop, within FoxInCloud in VFP IDE + browser / localhost web 
server, through browser on hosted webserver.

It'll also show how web app can be debugged in IDE in a standard fashion 

Thierry Nivelet
http://foxincloud.com/
Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud

Le 24 juin 2011 à 22:49, MB Software Solutions,LLC 
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com a écrit :

 But if your apps were upsized to FoxInCloud's idea, they could run on 
 anything that had a browser, if I understand FIC correctly?  (Of 
 course, that means centralizing your data I guess.  Colocated server?
 
 Thierry?
 
 
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 MB Software Solutions, LLC
 President, Chief Software Architect
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 http://fabmate.com
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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread John Weller
That explains a lot!  I always configure my machines to have a system
partition and a data partition, Drive D:.  Ob her machine drive D was the CD
drive.

Thanks.

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631 

 -Original Message-
 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
On Behalf
 Of John Harvey
 Sent: 24 June 2011 21:54
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing
 
 When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a
fix
 out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has
 it.
 
 John
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
 Of John Weller
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing
 
 Hi Malcolm,
 
 I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then
found
 that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that
 be?
 
 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631
 
  -Original Message-
  From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
  [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
  Of Malcolm Greene
  Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06
  To: profoxt...@leafe.com
  Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing
 
  Jeff,
 
  Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives.
 
  Does that make a difference?
 
  Malcolm
 
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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 6/24/2011 5:02 PM, Thierry Nivelet wrote:
 You got it right, once VFP app are 'adapted' with FoxInCloud, you or your 
 client can run it from any browser through a web server, or on a windows 
 desktop as usual - all with the very same code base.

 As I mentioned previously, we're going to post some video showing the same 
 app running on desktop, within FoxInCloud in VFP IDE + browser / localhost 
 web server, through browser on hosted webserver.

 It'll also show how web app can be debugged in IDE in a standard fashion

 Thierry Nivelet
 http://foxincloud.com/
 Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud


Very cool!  Looking forward to it, and the new pricing you mentioned 
before too.

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference was
built into the .EXE.  I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped (on
the machine that built the .EXE).  I just don't remember all the details as
I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working with
FPD apps even today)

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote:

 That explains a lot!  I always configure my machines to have a system
 partition and a data partition, Drive D:.  Ob her machine drive D was the
 CD
 drive.

 Thanks.

 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631

  -Original Message-
  From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
  Of John Harvey
  Sent: 24 June 2011 21:54
  To: profoxt...@leafe.com
  Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing
 
  When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a
 fix
  out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has
  it.
 
  John
 
  -Original Message-
  From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
 Behalf
  Of John Weller
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM
  To: profox@leafe.com
  Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing
 
  Hi Malcolm,
 
  I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then
 found
  that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that
  be?
 
  John Weller
  01380 723235
  07976 393631
 
   -Original Message-
   From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
   [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
  On Behalf
   Of Malcolm Greene
   Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06
   To: profoxt...@leafe.com
   Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing
  
   Jeff,
  
   Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives.
  
   Does that make a difference?
  
   Malcolm
  
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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Tracy Pearson
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: 
  I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference
was
  built into the .EXE.  I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped
(on
  the machine that built the .EXE).  I just don't remember all the details
as
  I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working
with
  FPD apps even today)
  
  Fred
 

Fred,

This problem still exists with Visual FoxPro when the EXE is compiled on a
drive other than C:.

Had a customer one time that did not have a C: as a HDD, but a CD -ROM, very
odd, but due to upgrade paths it happened.

Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software


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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
Really?  I've never run across it on any VFP configuration, lucky I guess.
 I only ever saw it on FPW .EXEs.

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote:

 Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24:
   I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference
 was
   built into the .EXE.  I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped
 (on
   the machine that built the .EXE).  I just don't remember all the details
 as
   I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working
 with
   FPD apps even today)
 
   Fred
 

 Fred,

 This problem still exists with Visual FoxPro when the EXE is compiled on a
 drive other than C:.

 Had a customer one time that did not have a C: as a HDD, but a CD -ROM,
 very
 odd, but due to upgrade paths it happened.

 Tracy Pearson
 PowerChurch Software


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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
What I have seen on VFP .EXEs may be similar in that they will load slowly
when run on a system where the server doesn't exist (only using UNCs, no
drive letters).  Maybe it's the same thing.  I think that SYS(2450) helps to
get rid of the problem.

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote:

 Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24:
   I'm pretty sure that John was right, that the CD drive letter reference
 was
   built into the .EXE.  I don't think it was if a drive letter was skipped
 (on
   the machine that built the .EXE).  I just don't remember all the details
 as
   I haven't dealt with a FPW app since 1996. (though I am still working
 with
   FPD apps even today)
 
   Fred
 

 Fred,

 This problem still exists with Visual FoxPro when the EXE is compiled on a
 drive other than C:.

 Had a customer one time that did not have a C: as a HDD, but a CD -ROM,
 very
 odd, but due to upgrade paths it happened.

 Tracy Pearson
 PowerChurch Software


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Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Thierry Nivelet
All xBase commands are fine.
In fact FiC is a wrapper around your app, very agnostic on how it deals 
with data.
Just one thing: INTO CURSOR should be READWRITE
thn

Le 24/06/11 14:17, MB Software Solutions, LLC a écrit :
 On 6/24/2011 3:32 AM, Thierry Nivelet wrote:
 Just a minor point, your app can move to the web with any kind of database: 
 VFP, SQLserver, PostGreSql, etc. FoxInCloud just does not care.

 VFP database on a web server is much more secured, reliable and fast:
Secured: it resides in the app directory, NOT in the web site, so only 
 the app access it, not user directly; you can set up whatever NTFS security 
 scheme you see fit.
Reliable: server startup and shut down are properly controlled; no more 
 cdx or fpt broken because of a workstation unplugged in the midst of a 
 transaction.
Fast: no more indexes traveling over th wire; everything happens within 
 the server.


 Can it use a lot of x-base commands in classic foxpro coding style, or
 must it be changed to be more tiered?


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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
That seemed odd to me that they would start from scratch with a totally 
new OS for the iPad. I guess they realized that using one of their BSD 
derivatives as a launch point was not a smart move.

I have one of the Asus Transformers, have had it about 3 weeks now. Love 
it and am very impressed. But it is odd to have a device that for almost 
all of my purposes is worthless without a data connection to the 
Internet. The Asus is WIFI only, but that means that there's no monthly 
data use fee, too.

So, GPS as a feature is NOT standard operating feature for an iPad? 
Interesting. GPS seems like a no-brainer feature for a pad device.

Mike

 On 06/24/2011 01:15 PM, Allen wrote:
 I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have
 GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use
 for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads
 os.
 Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to
 go there like sheep.
 Al

 -Original Message-

 I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I
 lost interest.  Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able
 to run my applications on it.  From what I have seen, they aren't their
 yet.

 Jeff

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
My memory of this is what Fred states. If you just move the CD (or DVD) 
drive up the ladder to a higher letter, then recompile, the problem goes 
away. Moving the drive letter used to be a real hassle with Windows 98, 
but it's easy with XP.

Mike

 Seems to me I remember something about it only happening if your CD drive
 was consecutive to existing drives.  C:, D:, E:

 If you skipped a drive letter, it didn't happen.  IIRC, we set our CD drives
 to M: and had no problems.

 Fred


 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:54 PM, John Harveyjohn.har...@shelbynet.comwrote:

 When the exe was compiled, it bound that drive into the exe. There is a fix
 out there somewhere that will remove it. I'm sure someone on the list has
 it.

 John

 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
 Of John Weller
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 3:45 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: FPW26 Freezing

 Hi Malcolm,

 I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then
 found
 that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that
 be?

 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631

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 [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
 Of Malcolm Greene
 Sent: 24 June 2011 19:06
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: FPW26 Freezing

 Jeff,

 Make sure there's formatted physical media in all your CD/DVD drives.

 Does that make a difference?

 Malcolm

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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Tracy Pearson
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: 
  What I have seen on VFP .EXEs may be similar in that they will load
slowly
  when run on a system where the server doesn't exist (only using UNCs, no
  drive letters).  Maybe it's the same thing.  I think that SYS(2450) helps
to
  get rid of the problem.
  
  Fred
 

Fred,

Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can
work out some reports of slow access.

Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software


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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Tracy Pearson
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: 
  Really?  I've never run across it on any VFP configuration, lucky I
guess.
   I only ever saw it on FPW .EXEs.
  Fred
 

Fred,

Put your source a D:, compile the EXE to D:, then move it to a machine that
D: is the CD and no CD in the drive. I remember that was the scenario with
VFP 8 build. May or may not exist with VFP 9.

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[OT] Fool and his money

2011-06-24 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody,

Guy had a nightmare about a flood, now he is building a Noah's arc 
replica. Tying it in with Al Gore and Global Warming, of course.

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
It wasn't slow access, it was slow start up.  Like a good 8-12 seconds
slower.  After the initial delay, everything was fine.

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote:

 Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24:
   What I have seen on VFP .EXEs may be similar in that they will load
 slowly
   when run on a system where the server doesn't exist (only using UNCs, no
   drive letters).  Maybe it's the same thing.  I think that SYS(2450)
 helps
 to
   get rid of the problem.
 
   Fred
 

 Fred,

 Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can
 work out some reports of slow access.

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 PowerChurch Software


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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Tracy Pearson
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: 
  It wasn't slow access, it was slow start up.  Like a good 8-12 seconds
  slower.  After the initial delay, everything was fine.
  
  Fred
 

Fred,

Hmm.. XP users going to the same EXE are fast. Windows Vista/7 users are
slow throughout the program. 
Still something I'll see about testing. Though I really think the problem is
the network card drivers and OffLoad options that aren't handled correctly.

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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
Tracy,

SMB2 on Vista/7 vs SMB on XP?

Fred


On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote:

 Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24:
   It wasn't slow access, it was slow start up.  Like a good 8-12 seconds
   slower.  After the initial delay, everything was fine.
 
   Fred
 

 Fred,

 Hmm.. XP users going to the same EXE are fast. Windows Vista/7 users are
 slow throughout the program.
 Still something I'll see about testing. Though I really think the problem
 is
 the network card drivers and OffLoad options that aren't handled correctly.

 Tracy Pearson
 PowerChurch Software


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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Tracy Pearson
Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24: 
  Tracy,
  
  SMB2 on Vista/7 vs SMB on XP?
  
  Fred
 

Fred,

That is one of the things we point out, as well as a couple others:
Anti-Virus and desktop search tools exclusion settings. 
On demand backup tools

A few times it's been because the authentication of UNC paths instead of a
mapped drive that we've seen major slow downs.

Tracy Pearson
PowerChurch Software


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Re: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Fred Taylor
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Tracy Pearson tr...@powerchurch.comwrote:

 Fred Taylor wrote on 2011-06-24:
   Tracy,
 
   SMB2 on Vista/7 vs SMB on XP?
 
   Fred
 

 Fred,

 That is one of the things we point out, as well as a couple others:
Anti-Virus and desktop search tools exclusion settings.
On demand backup tools

 A few times it's been because the authentication of UNC paths instead of a
 mapped drive that we've seen major slow downs.

 Tracy Pearson
 PowerChurch Software


 Tracy,

It was definitely a server issue for us, not an AV one.  We only noticed it
when the development moved to a new server (new name) and the old one went
offline.  All the existing .EXE's suddenly started really slow, and the
problem went away when they were recompiled on the new server.  The compiled
EXE's were never actually run from the development server, they were copied
to a production server and ran from there.  We even confirmed it by bringing
the old development server back online and the older compiled .EXE's loaded
fast again.  Take the old developer server back offline and they started
slowly.

Fred


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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Rick Schummer
 Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can 
 work out some reports of slow access.

Slow reports is normally related to hard coded printer information with the 
saved printer for the report. VFP is
searching the network for the printer and eventually times out before printing.

Rick
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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Mike Copeland wrote:

 That seemed odd to me that they would start from scratch with a totally 
 new OS for the iPad. I guess they realized that using one of their BSD 
 derivatives as a launch point was not a smart move.


Not so odd when you consider that they were trying to create an entire 
new class of device. They were most certainly *not* trying to make a small 
version of a computer, in the manner of a netbook. Most computer devs who tried 
it were disappointed (at least initially) because they expected it to be a 
computer, but flatter, and it just isn't that.



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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Tracy Pearson
Luckily I've worked out the problems customers had with our reports. They are 
complaining working in the system doing everyday CRUD operations is slow when 
the EXE is on the network location. I might be an easy way to test test the 
SYS() setting.

Tracy

Rick Schummer pro...@whitelightcomputing.com wrote:

 Looks like something I need to implement in a test build to see if I can 
 work out some reports of slow access.

Slow reports is normally related to hard coded printer information with the 
saved printer for the report. VFP is
searching the network for the printer and eventually times out before printing.

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RE: FPW26 Freezing

2011-06-24 Thread Malcolm Greene
John,

 I had a FPW26 app which a user transferred to another machine and then found 
 that it would only work if she had a CD in the CD drive - why should that be?

I had this problem once but can't remember the solution. If you're still
having the problem I'll pull my old source and see if I can find the
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Let me know.

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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com wrote:

 On 06/24/2011 01:15 PM, Allen wrote:
 I bought an ipad. don't know why, they are rubbish. Not they do not have
 GPS. Not even the 3g versions. They do look good but are too heavy to use
 for any time. And much as I hate google, android is much better then ipads
 os.
 Apple is really the same as macdonalds. total rubbish but kids are fooled to
 go there like sheep.
 Al

 -Original Message-

 I looked into the Ipad and when I found out it wasn't a true Mac OS I
 lost interest.  Personally, if I buy a pad of any sort I want to be able
 to run my applications on it.  From what I have seen, they aren't their
 yet.
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The iPad is great.  Bought one for my wife for our last years
anniversary and she loves it.

I thought it was going to be a reader + for her, but she doesn't like
the content at the price available on it compared to target for all of
her books.

Instead it is 100% entertainment for her.  Games, facebook, email, and
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VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Sytze de Boer
Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc

If I change it to CreateObject
I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception

This works fine
ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)

I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not
installed on the laptop.

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Re: VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the 
GetObject statement?

Mike

 Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
 oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
 error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc

 If I change it to CreateObject
 I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception

 This works fine
 ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)

 I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is not
 installed on the laptop.


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Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Ken Dibble

  Granted VFP program
design is 95% prone to sql injection.  You combine text to form the
command and you execute that generated statement.  Poof SQL Injection
is going to be difficult to stop.

I'm obviously completely ignorant about this because I do not understand 
this SQL Injection issue.

In order to execute code that modifies a table you have to have a valid 
EXECUTABLE statement, right?

So something like DROP TABLE would be a bad thing. What I don't 
understand is how any sane person would design a query interface that 
results in a statement like DROP TABLE being *executed*.

In my systems, somebody could put DROP TABLE sometable into a search 
blank, sure. And the result in my code would be something like:

Select foo from bar where bar == DROP TABLE sometable. That's not 
executable, and it won't hurt anything.

So much for searches. What about data entry?

Well again:

Insert into foo (myfield) values (DROP TABLE)

won't do any harm either. Nor would

Update foo set myfield = DROP TABLE where myotherfield = DELETE ALL

or whatever else you can imagine.

In fact, as long as you don't let users write out an entire SQL SELECT 
expression from scratch, I can't think of any possible combination of data 
entry controls and code that would result in an EXECUTABLE expression that 
damages data.

Why would anybody design an interface that lets ordinary users have control 
of the command terms in a SQL expression, as opposed to just values that go 
into, or come out of, tables?

Can somebody explain this to me?

Thanks.

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Re: VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Sytze de Boer
Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a
,


On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the
 GetObject statement?

 Mike

  Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
  oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
  error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc
 
  If I change it to CreateObject
  I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception
 
  This works fine
  ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)
 
  I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is
 not
  installed on the laptop.
 

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Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Ken Dibble krdib...@frontiernet.net wrote:

  Granted VFP program
design is 95% prone to sql injection.  You combine text to form the
command and you execute that generated statement.  Poof SQL Injection
is going to be difficult to stop.

 I'm obviously completely ignorant about this because I do not understand
 this SQL Injection issue.

 In order to execute code that modifies a table you have to have a valid
 EXECUTABLE statement, right?

 So something like DROP TABLE would be a bad thing. What I don't
 understand is how any sane person would design a query interface that
 results in a statement like DROP TABLE being *executed*.
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Re: VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is 
already running you can prevent additional instances from being started 
by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you 
have shown.

So is the application already running?

If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't.

Mike

 Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it has a
 ,


 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the
 GetObject statement?

 Mike

 Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
 oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
 error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc

 If I change it to CreateObject
 I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception

 This works fine
 ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)

 I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is
 not
 installed on the laptop.

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Re: VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Sytze de Boer
Hi Mike
I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running about 6
times, but no longer.

I have closed Outlook
I've changed my code to
oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application)

Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable

System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32




On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote:

 And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is
 already running you can prevent additional instances from being started
 by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you
 have shown.

 So is the application already running?

 If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't.

 Mike

  Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it
 has a
  ,
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the
  GetObject statement?
 
  Mike
 
  Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
  oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
  error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc
 
  If I change it to CreateObject
  I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception
 
  This works fine
  ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)
 
  I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is
  not
  installed on the laptop.
 
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Re: VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
Sytze

I'm testing it on VFP9SP2, Windows XP, and if I start VFP, then execute
 GetObject(,'Excel.Application')
I get an OLE error.

If I include a first parameter, a reference to an XLS file
 GetObject('C:\Spreadem.xls','Excel.Application')
then I do not get an error.

If I then execute the statement
 GetObject(,'Excel.Application')
I do not get an OLE error, because Excel is already running.

I can't comment regarding Outlook as I do not have it installed on any 
system I have access to.

Mike

 Hi Mike
 I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running about 6
 times, but no longer.

 I have closed Outlook
 I've changed my code to
 oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application)

 Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable

 System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32




 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com  wrote:

 And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is
 already running you can prevent additional instances from being started
 by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you
 have shown.

 So is the application already running?

 If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't.

 Mike

 Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it
 has a
 ,


 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in the
 GetObject statement?

 Mike

 Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
 oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
 error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc

 If I change it to CreateObject
 I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception

 This works fine
 ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)

 I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook is
 not
 installed on the laptop.

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Re: [NF] Questions on migrating VFP app

2011-06-24 Thread Ken Dibble

  In order to execute code that modifies a table you have to have a valid
  EXECUTABLE statement, right?
 
  So something like DROP TABLE would be a bad thing. What I don't
  understand is how any sane person would design a query interface that
  results in a statement like DROP TABLE being *executed*.
--

http://ferruh.mavituna.com/sql-injection-cheatsheet-oku/

Well yeah, if you have complete unfettered access to a server you can, I 
imagine, run any number of horrible exectable statements on it. However it 
would appear that all of these multitudinous examples rely on just two 
basic obvious dimwitted moves:

1. Allowing somebody to type in the name of a table or field instead of 
making them choose it from a list of valid options.

2. Somehow allowing strings to be entered into a SQL statement without 
enclosing them in appropriate delimiters.

So again I ask, why would anybody design a data-entry or query interface 
that lets people do that?

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Re: VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Sytze de Boer
Mike
I really appreciate you're taking the time to do this
I'll box on and test further

S



On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Mike Copeland mlcopel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sytze

 I'm testing it on VFP9SP2, Windows XP, and if I start VFP, then execute
 GetObject(,'Excel.Application')
 I get an OLE error.

 If I include a first parameter, a reference to an XLS file
 GetObject('C:\Spreadem.xls','Excel.Application')
 then I do not get an error.

 If I then execute the statement
 GetObject(,'Excel.Application')
 I do not get an OLE error, because Excel is already running.

 I can't comment regarding Outlook as I do not have it installed on any
 system I have access to.

 Mike

  Hi Mike
  I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running
 about 6
  times, but no longer.
 
  I have closed Outlook
  I've changed my code to
  oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application)
 
  Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable
 
  System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is
  already running you can prevent additional instances from being started
  by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you
  have shown.
 
  So is the application already running?
 
  If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't.
 
  Mike
 
  Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it
  has a
  ,
 
 
  On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com
wrote:
  Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in
 the
  GetObject statement?
 
  Mike
 
  Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
  oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
  error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc
 
  If I change it to CreateObject
  I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception
 
  This works fine
  ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)
 
  I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook
 is
  not
  installed on the laptop.
 
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Re: [NF] GPS and pad devices

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
Yep, the pad seems to be closer to a cell phone than a computer. I was 
surprised at how the difference plays out in what you expect it to 
accomplish. Pretty much, if it's able to consume from the Internet, it 
works great (with the exception of Angry Birds, of course.) Other wise, 
to me at least, it seems crippled (although Angry birds almost makes up 
for it.)

I keep forgetting that it's MicroSofff that tries to turn everything 
into a nail for their Windows hammer.

Mike

 On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Mike Copeland wrote:

 That seemed odd to me that they would start from scratch with a totally
 new OS for the iPad. I guess they realized that using one of their BSD
 derivatives as a launch point was not a smart move.

   Not so odd when you consider that they were trying to create an entire 
 new class of device. They were most certainly *not* trying to make a small 
 version of a computer, in the manner of a netbook. Most computer devs who 
 tried it were disappointed (at least initially) because they expected it to 
 be a computer, but flatter, and it just isn't that.



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Re: VFP automation

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Copeland
Not a problemmy point was (is) that it seems to be working as they 
intended. Or else I'm just not grokking what you're saying. (Don't 
worry, happens all the time lately...getting old.)

Mike

 Mike
 I really appreciate you're taking the time to do this
 I'll box on and test further

 S



 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Sytze

 I'm testing it on VFP9SP2, Windows XP, and if I start VFP, then execute
  GetObject(,'Excel.Application')
 I get an OLE error.

 If I include a first parameter, a reference to an XLS file
  GetObject('C:\Spreadem.xls','Excel.Application')
 then I do not get an error.

 If I then execute the statement
  GetObject(,'Excel.Application')
 I do not get an OLE error, because Excel is already running.

 I can't comment regarding Outlook as I do not have it installed on any
 system I have access to.

 Mike

 Hi Mike
 I'm now testing this on my laptop where the Createobject was running
 about 6
 times, but no longer.

 I have closed Outlook
 I've changed my code to
 oOutlook=Getobject(,outlook.application)

 Error is 0x800401e3:Operation unavailable

 System is Outlook 2003, VFP SP2 on Windows 7/32




 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 And so it is (correct.) The help file says that if the application is
 already running you can prevent additional instances from being started
 by omitting the first parameter and issuing the statement the way you
 have shown.

 So is the application already running?

 If not, you'll get that error. If it is, you won't.

 Mike

 Many years ago I bought the book from Hentzen, and in the examples, it
 has a
 ,


 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mike Copelandmlcopel...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Could it be that there is a , (comma) after the left parenthesis in
 the
 GetObject statement?

 Mike

 Can anyone suggest why this code is wrong ?
 oOutlook = GetObject(,Outlook.Application)
 error OLE error code 0x800401e3 etc

 If I change it to CreateObject
 I get OLE error 0x80010105: The server threw an exception

 This works fine
 ox=CreateObject(Excel.Application)

 I have VFP on my laptop and there's no problem, except that outlook
 is
 not
 installed on the laptop.

[excessive quoting removed by server]

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