RE: Fun with date calculations in VFP

[Gene Wirchenko]

At 08:38 2018-05-22, "Paul H. Tarver"  wrote:


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From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Gene
Wirchenko
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:03 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Fun with date calculations in VFP

At 12:31 2018-05-20, Ted Roche  wrote:
>On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
>
> >  thedate=date(,12,31) && Handle this extreme case.
>
>And that, kids, is why we call it "The Y10K crisis..."

  It is not a crisis yet.  You have to ignore it for some millennia yet.



I'm starting to feel the panic rise...No clients calling yet, but it's
coming...


 You have to ignore it for millennia, Paul!  Show some 
professionality or unprofessionality or something.


Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko



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Re: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update

[Ted Roche]

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Re: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update

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On 22 May 2018 at 17:17, Fred Taylor  wrote:
> Yeah, that one bit me too.  I think we ALL should submit invoices for our
> time wasted on this.  It might open their eyes!  But I won't hold my breath
> that they'll be more considerate of the impact of their "updates".

Plenty of grief here today with the SMB2 thing (we advised sites to
disable SMB2 when Vista came out).
Still 300 or so legacy sites running our old xBase software.

Our support centre in Portugal (who are actually pretty good) aren't
trained in the old version.
There are only 2 guys here left that understand xBase.  One has moved
into management.
Guess who has to support this?

Oh yeah, the Microsoft HTTPS/XML object (forget the name) doesn't
support TLS 1.1/1.2 on Windows 7.
One of our web booking providers is switching off older TLS versions tonight.

They've had plenty of notice and the new version came out in 2011.
Not my problem.

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Re: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update

[Ken Dibble]

Just had a 1 day full on panic here with the latest May 2018 update 
from Microsoft for Server 2008 and 2012. All the RDP (Remote 
desktop) sessions that used to connect now do NOT connect due to a 
change in the security settings on any client that has the latest 
Windows Updates.



Dave, I feel your pain.

I've been following this issue, and waiting to see whether MS issued 
a version of the patch that does not mess up NIC/DHCP addressing.


Did you have any issues with losing static internal IP addresses or 
NIC settings on Server 2008?


Thanks.

Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org



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Re: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update

[Fred Taylor]

Yeah, that one bit me too.  I think we ALL should submit invoices for our
time wasted on this.  It might open their eyes!  But I won't hold my breath
that they'll be more considerate of the impact of their "updates".


Fred

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:

> Gentlemen,
> Just had a 1 day full on panic here with the latest May 2018 update from
> Microsoft for Server 2008 and 2012. All the RDP (Remote desktop) sessions
> that used to connect now do NOT connect due to a change in the security
> settings on any client that has the latest Windows Updates.
>
> This has caused us real grief as we run multiple remote sessions onto the
> VM’s on a 3 node cluster. Only one of the nodes on the cluster ran an
> automatic update along with a few of the VM’s and we found it made RDP
> access via either HyperV connect or standard RDP impossible:
>
> “An Authentication error has occurred
> The function requested is not supported/
>
> Remote computer xx.xx.xx.xx
> This could be due to CredSSP encryption oracle remediation.
> For more information see https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=80”
>
> Nothing to do with oracle at all and all due to M$ updating security
> settings on a whim so as to mitigate the external code execution threat:
>
> “CVE-2018-0886: "A remote code execution vulnerability exists in unpatched
> versions of CredSSP. An attacker who successfully exploits this
> vulnerability could relay user credentials to execute code on the target
> system. Any application that depends on CredSSP for authentication may be
> vulnerable to this type of attack."
>
> The solution, should any of you encounter this error is to update the
> server as well as the clients the May 2018 update level, not simply the
> client or the server. Fortunately this was fairly easy as we migrated all
> the VM’s onto a spare node, upgraded the empty node and then migrated back
> and then connected to each VM via HyperV connect and did the 2018-05
> updates.
>
> At one stage we found ourselves unable to HyperV connect or RDP into any
> servers as our development machines are all updated automatically. Hence we
> were in a catch 22 situation….. Can’t connect to server in order to update
> the server, which would allow connection to the very server we couldn’t
> connect to. Thank god we had a spare cluster to migrate to!
>
> All in all a totally wasted day as some of the retrograde updates took
> over 60 minutes per VM and we have about 20 of them. Oh Joy!
>
> Thanks for the ‘heads up’ Mr Microsoft …. Where can I send the bill?
>
> Dave Crozier
> Software Development Manager
> Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
>
>
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RE: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update

[Richard Kaye]

Already had that fun the day the patch was released, Dave. Another temporary 
solution is to go into the Remote page of the System Properties on the RDP 
server and uncheck the box that says "Allow connections only from computers 
running Remote Desktop with Network Level Authentication (recommended)".

You would think that MS would understand that servers don't get patched the 
same way as workstations but...

--

rk

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 12:07 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update

Gentlemen,
Just had a 1 day full on panic here with the latest May 2018 update from 
Microsoft for Server 2008 and 2012. All the RDP (Remote desktop) sessions that 
used to connect now do NOT connect due to a change in the security settings on 
any client that has the latest Windows Updates.

This has caused us real grief as we run multiple remote sessions onto the VM’s 
on a 3 node cluster. Only one of the nodes on the cluster ran an automatic 
update along with a few of the VM’s and we found it made RDP access via either 
HyperV connect or standard RDP impossible:

“An Authentication error has occurred
The function requested is not supported/

Remote computer xx.xx.xx.xx
This could be due to CredSSP encryption oracle remediation.
For more information see https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=80”

Nothing to do with oracle at all and all due to M$ updating security settings 
on a whim so as to mitigate the external code execution threat:

“CVE-2018-0886: "A remote code execution vulnerability exists in unpatched 
versions of CredSSP. An attacker who successfully exploits this vulnerability 
could relay user credentials to execute code on the target system. Any 
application that depends on CredSSP for authentication may be vulnerable to 
this type of attack."

The solution, should any of you encounter this error is to update the server as 
well as the clients the May 2018 update level, not simply the client or the 
server. Fortunately this was fairly easy as we migrated all the VM’s onto a 
spare node, upgraded the empty node and then migrated back and then connected 
to each VM via HyperV connect and did the 2018-05 updates.

At one stage we found ourselves unable to HyperV connect or RDP into any 
servers as our development machines are all updated automatically. Hence we 
were in a catch 22 situation….. Can’t connect to server in order to update the 
server, which would allow connection to the very server we couldn’t connect to. 
Thank god we had a spare cluster to migrate to!

All in all a totally wasted day as some of the retrograde updates took over 60 
minutes per VM and we have about 20 of them. Oh Joy!

Thanks for the ‘heads up’ Mr Microsoft …. Where can I send the bill?

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.



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Fax: 01706-224683
www.Flexipol.co.uk
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Terms & Conditions:

Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in 
the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller
Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds 
payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold 
by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as 
the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods 
as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from 
those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured 
and identified as the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use 
the goods in the ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the 
property in 

Microsoft Catch 22 RDP Update

[Dave Crozier]

Gentlemen,
Just had a 1 day full on panic here with the latest May 2018 update from 
Microsoft for Server 2008 and 2012. All the RDP (Remote desktop) sessions that 
used to connect now do NOT connect due to a change in the security settings on 
any client that has the latest Windows Updates.

This has caused us real grief as we run multiple remote sessions onto the VM’s 
on a 3 node cluster. Only one of the nodes on the cluster ran an automatic 
update along with a few of the VM’s and we found it made RDP access via either 
HyperV connect or standard RDP impossible:

“An Authentication error has occurred
The function requested is not supported/

Remote computer xx.xx.xx.xx
This could be due to CredSSP encryption oracle remediation.
For more information see https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=80”

Nothing to do with oracle at all and all due to M$ updating security settings 
on a whim so as to mitigate the external code execution threat:

“CVE-2018-0886: "A remote code execution vulnerability exists in unpatched 
versions of CredSSP. An attacker who successfully exploits this vulnerability 
could relay user credentials to execute code on the target system. Any 
application that depends on CredSSP for authentication may be vulnerable to 
this type of attack."

The solution, should any of you encounter this error is to update the server as 
well as the clients the May 2018 update level, not simply the client or the 
server. Fortunately this was fairly easy as we migrated all the VM’s onto a 
spare node, upgraded the empty node and then migrated back and then connected 
to each VM via HyperV connect and did the 2018-05 updates.

At one stage we found ourselves unable to HyperV connect or RDP into any 
servers as our development machines are all updated automatically. Hence we 
were in a catch 22 situation….. Can’t connect to server in order to update the 
server, which would allow connection to the very server we couldn’t connect to. 
Thank god we had a spare cluster to migrate to!

All in all a totally wasted day as some of the retrograde updates took over 60 
minutes per VM and we have about 20 of them. Oh Joy!

Thanks for the ‘heads up’ Mr Microsoft …. Where can I send the bill?

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.



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e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to 
run your own virus check before opening any
attachments received as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any 
liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received.

It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate 
virus protection.

Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
Unit 14 Bentwood Road
Carrs
Industrial Estate
Haslingden
Rossendale
Lancashire
BB4 5HH

Tel:01706-222792
Fax: 01706-224683
www.Flexipol.co.uk
---

Terms & Conditions:

Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in 
the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller
Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds 
payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold 
by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as 
the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods 
as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from 
those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured 
and identified as the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use 
the goods in the ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the 
property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any 
time

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RE: Fun with date calculations in VFP

[Paul H. Tarver]

I'm starting to feel the panic rise...No clients calling yet, but it's
coming...

Paul H. Tarver

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Gene
Wirchenko
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:03 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Fun with date calculations in VFP

At 12:31 2018-05-20, Ted Roche  wrote:
>On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
>
> >  thedate=date(,12,31) && Handle this extreme case.
>
>And that, kids, is why we call it "The Y10K crisis..."

  It is not a crisis yet.  You have to ignore it for some millennia yet.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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RE: Task Pane Manager - Community pane

[Paul Newton]

Alan

I am not worried yet about adding my own entries but I have removed the record 
from PaneContent.DBF that contains the web service wsdl reference and the 
default entries keep coming back

Paul Newton

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How exactly are you removing dead entries and adding your own? 

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Re: [NF] replace xmarks

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Thank you, Malcolm

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On Tue, May 22, 2018, 08:01 Malcolm Greene  wrote:

> > What do you suggest for a Bookmark Manager that syncs Chrome, Firefox,
> Androids?
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> Pocket. Highly recommended.
> www.getpocket.com
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> Malcolm
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> What do you suggest for a Bookmark Manager that syncs Chrome, Firefox, 
> Androids?

Pocket. Highly recommended.
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Re: Task Pane Manager - Community pane

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How exactly are you removing dead entries and adding your own? 

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