RE: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

[datades]

I have updated to windows 11 on 3 of my old laptops by editing the TPM
settings in one of the DLLs of the setup. Windows 11 works and works well.
IN fact it has made two of my laptops that were incredibly slow to become
usable again. It looks like MS has finally broken the tradition of every
second Windows release being garbage.

-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II
Sent: Friday, 17 December 2021 3:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

Age perhaps.  My desktop is a few years old as is my laptop so they both
lack the TPM 2.0 support as well as at least the laptop sporting an
unsupported processor.

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On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:58 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> I wonder how my Win10Pro machine would differ from yours?
>
> On 12/16/2021 6:13 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
> > I haven't seen anything of the sort but I'm not sure that either of 
> > my physical Windows 10 machines qualifies for the update.
> >
> > -
> > Michael Oke, II
> > oke...@gmail.com
> > 661-349-6221
> > -
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:21 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC < 
> > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any 
> >> warning to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.
> >> Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but 
> >> admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I 
> >> left off the next day.
> >>
> >> As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer 
> >> League Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on 
> >> Facebook--locations in two states now!), and initially, because it 
> >> was so quick to get it up and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I 
> >> also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10 exclusively for that too.  After a few 
> >> crashes from VFP 10 corrupting the DBFs, I swapped out to the 
> >> MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been using MySQL/MariaDB since I 
> >> saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW back in 2003.)
> >>
> >> Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with 
> >> your computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
> >> Fox/VFP dev since 1997
> >> Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> >>
> >>
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Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

[Michael Oke, II]

Age perhaps.  My desktop is a few years old as is my laptop so they both
lack the TPM 2.0 support as well as at least the laptop sporting an
unsupported processor.

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-


On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:58 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> I wonder how my Win10Pro machine would differ from yours?
>
> On 12/16/2021 6:13 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
> > I haven't seen anything of the sort but I'm not sure that either of my
> > physical Windows 10 machines qualifies for the update.
> >
> > -
> > Michael Oke, II
> > oke...@gmail.com
> > 661-349-6221
> > -
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:21 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
> > mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any warning
> >> to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.
> >> Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but
> >> admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I left
> >> off the next day.
> >>
> >> As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer League
> >> Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on Facebook--locations
> >> in two states now!), and initially, because it was so quick to get it up
> >> and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10
> >> exclusively for that too.  After a few crashes from VFP 10 corrupting
> >> the DBFs, I swapped out to the MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been
> >> using MySQL/MariaDB since I saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW
> >> back in 2003.)
> >>
> >> Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with your
> >> computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
> >> Fox/VFP dev since 1997
> >> Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> >>
> >>
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Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

I wonder how my Win10Pro machine would differ from yours?

On 12/16/2021 6:13 PM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

I haven't seen anything of the sort but I'm not sure that either of my
physical Windows 10 machines qualifies for the update.

-
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-


On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:21 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any warning
to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.
Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but
admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I left
off the next day.

As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer League
Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on Facebook--locations
in two states now!), and initially, because it was so quick to get it up
and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10
exclusively for that too.  After a few crashes from VFP 10 corrupting
the DBFs, I swapped out to the MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been
using MySQL/MariaDB since I saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW
back in 2003.)

Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with your
computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?


--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
Fox/VFP dev since 1997
Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com



[excessive quoting removed by server]

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Fwd: VFP9 SP2 run a batch file

[Ken McGinnis]

sry, that should have gone to the list. Here it is

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: VFP9 SP2 run a batch file
Date:   Thu, 16 Dec 2021 20:29:35 -0500
From:   Ken McGinnis 
To: Ted Roche 



Ted,

Thank you for that. I needed a place to start looking. I have not yet 
changed to win11. I had so much trouble with win10 that I decided to 
wait until I hear that the thing is working. I think I'll look for a 
workaround for now. First step is to get more specific information.


Ken

On 12/16/2021 6:56 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:08 PM Richard Kaye  wrote:
Kinda tough for folks here to do anything other than offer sympathy 
without the fine details. 



Well, sure. But if anyone's got Win11 and a similar app, you might
luck out and get something like "command.com is no longer on the path
and you need to add it to AUTOEXEC.NT" or something.

A quick internet search on "Windows 11 shell to CMD" type searches
seems to indicate there's some kind of new terminal app that can run
CMD and PowerShell. So, that might have something to do with it.


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Re: VFP9 SP2 run a batch file

[Ted Roche]

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:08 PM Richard Kaye  wrote:
>
> Kinda tough for folks here to do anything other than offer sympathy without 
> the fine details. 
>

Well, sure. But if anyone's got Win11 and a similar app, you might
luck out and get something like "command.com is no longer on the path
and you need to add it to AUTOEXEC.NT" or something.

A quick internet search on "Windows 11 shell to CMD" type searches
seems to indicate there's some kind of new terminal app that can run
CMD and PowerShell. So, that might have something to do with it.

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Re: Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

[Michael Oke, II]

I haven't seen anything of the sort but I'm not sure that either of my
physical Windows 10 machines qualifies for the update.

-
Michael Oke, II
oke...@gmail.com
661-349-6221
-


On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 2:21 PM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:

> My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any warning
> to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.
> Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but
> admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I left
> off the next day.
>
> As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer League
> Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on Facebook--locations
> in two states now!), and initially, because it was so quick to get it up
> and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10
> exclusively for that too.  After a few crashes from VFP 10 corrupting
> the DBFs, I swapped out to the MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been
> using MySQL/MariaDB since I saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW
> back in 2003.)
>
> Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with your
> computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?
>
>
> --
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
> Fox/VFP dev since 1997
> Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com
>
>
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Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10 Pro

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

My Win10Pro dev machine decided to reboot overnight without any warning 
to me TWICE in the past week, and it had me quite pissed off.  
Thankfully my code was all saved (or at least 99% of it), but 
admittedly, I often leave my VFP window open and pick up where I left 
off the next day.


As some of you may recall, I designed an app for managing my Beer League 
Hockey group (called the "Babs Hockey Fraternity" on Facebook--locations 
in two states now!), and initially, because it was so quick to get it up 
and going, I used a VFP DBC backend.  I also use Mr. Chen's VFP 10 
exclusively for that too.  After a few crashes from VFP 10 corrupting 
the DBFs, I swapped out to the MariaDB backend instead.  (I've been 
using MySQL/MariaDB since I saw Bob Lee's n-tier presentation at GLGDW 
back in 2003.)


Anyhooo.did anybody else get a similar behavior recently, with your 
computer asking you if you wanted the free upgrade to Win 11?



--
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
Fox/VFP dev since 1997
Developer of FabNet estimating software - mbsoftwaresolutions.com


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Re: CABuilder

[MB Software Solutions, LLC]

Ever since Ed Leafe and some others posted that failings of CAs, I never 
spent another minute on them.  I've used Paul McNett's MakeUpdatable.prg 
for years although I morphed it into something else I think eventually 
in my framework which uses SPT exclusively.  I will admit that the Fox 
team did fix some of those errors apparently but I never looked back.



On 12/16/2021 4:25 PM, Graham Brown wrote:

Hi all

  


I use Paul's CABuilder tool under vfp8 to create Cursor Adapters. Just
lately it has started failing under Windows 8.

Database is SQL so I'm ticking the convert date/time to date option,
selecting SQL and ODBC. It runs through all the tables then says I don't
have something installed and asks for the setup.

Doesn't say what it is missing and putting the original disc in tells me it
can't find the setup files.

  


Will trace the code to see if I can find any clues but has anyone seen this
before?

  


Regards

Graham

  





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RE: VFP9 SP2 run a batch file

[Richard Kaye]

Kinda tough for folks here to do anything other than offer sympathy without the 
fine details. 

--

rk

From: ProfoxTech 
mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com>> On Behalf 
Of Ken McGinnis
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 4:56 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: VFP9 SP2 run a batch file

Good question.

My support team just said it won't work. Same set up in Windows 10 works
fine. I will try to get more information.

Ken

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RE: VFP9 SP2 run a batch file

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VFP9 SP2 run a batch file

[Ken McGinnis]

Good question.

My support team just said it won't work. Same set up in Windows 10 works 
fine. I will try to get more information.


Ken

On 12/16/2021 4:25 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:

Do you have a technical bug report or just this end-user one, Ken? 

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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ken McGinnis
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 2:44 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: looking for a multi-user alternative to view gmail emails

I am using VFP9 SP2.

For many years and previous versions we had the program 'run' a batch
file which was used to transmit a file. Now, a client with Windows 11 is
not able to run the batch file. We even tried administrator mode. Anyone
have any ideas?

Ken


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RE: looking for a multi-user alternative to view gmail emails

[Richard Kaye]

Do you have a technical bug report or just this end-user one, Ken? 

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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ken McGinnis
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 2:44 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: looking for a multi-user alternative to view gmail emails

I am using VFP9 SP2.

For many years and previous versions we had the program 'run' a batch
file which was used to transmit a file. Now, a client with Windows 11 is
not able to run the batch file. We even tried administrator mode. Anyone
have any ideas?

Ken

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CABuilder

[Graham Brown]

Hi all

 

I use Paul's CABuilder tool under vfp8 to create Cursor Adapters. Just
lately it has started failing under Windows 8.

Database is SQL so I'm ticking the convert date/time to date option,
selecting SQL and ODBC. It runs through all the tables then says I don't
have something installed and asks for the setup.

Doesn't say what it is missing and putting the original disc in tells me it
can't find the setup files.

 

Will trace the code to see if I can find any clues but has anyone seen this
before?

 

Regards

Graham

 



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[Ken McGinnis]

I am using VFP9 SP2.

For many years and previous versions we had the program 'run' a batch 
file which was used to transmit a file. Now, a client with Windows 11 is 
not able to run the batch file. We even tried administrator mode. Anyone 
have any ideas?


Ken



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Re: looking for a multi-user alternative to view gmail emails

[Ken McGinnis]

I am using VFP9 SP2.

For many years and previous versions we had the program 'run' a batch 
file which was used to transmit a file. Now, a client with Windows 11 is 
not able to run the batch file. We even tried administrator mode. Anyone 
have any ideas?


Ken



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