RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
Pkzip had a free one. Why use winzip ? Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Rick Schummer wrote: My favorite example of this is the most obvious one: WinZip. I can't Wow...great example. WinZip would be the best example I could think of, too. And then I recall unsavory folks distributing the CHMs of HWP books too. Not cool. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 25/08/2007 17:00 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
Pkzip had a free one. Why use winzip ? I use WinZip Pro (v-10.0+) for its true encryption with compression (64 or 128 bit, I use 64 bit),and for its Command Line interface that can be used to automated Zip/Unzip (with or without encryption). WinZip Pro's encryption is not just a simple password protection feature that can be easily cracked, but a very robust offering of several encryption techniques. Since I send receive files containing customer and sales data between my ftp server and client machinery, and ftp packets are sent in Clear Text, even with standard Zip compression the transfers are vulnerable to being snagged by a 3rd party while in transit. By encrypting and compressing the files, even if they are snagged the snagger will never get into the actual usable form of the file contents. This is done not only because it is the right way to treat client data, but because it is now required by Federal law to protect consumer data that is not otherwise publicy available. I do not know if PKZip ever went as far as providing true encryption with their product or not, as once I cut to WinZip for those two features I standardized my distributions on that Zip app. Once I standardized I never looked back. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore Pkzip had a free one. Why use winzip ? Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Rick Schummer wrote: My favorite example of this is the most obvious one: WinZip. I can't Wow...great example. WinZip would be the best example I could think of, too. And then I recall unsavory folks distributing the CHMs of HWP books too. Not cool. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 25/08/2007 17:00 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
The pkzip I have says normal or strong encyption. I don’t know how strong. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale I do not know if PKZip ever went as far as providing true encryption with their product or not, as once I cut to WinZip for those two features I standardized my distributions on that Zip app. Once I standardized I never looked back. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 26/08/2007 21:34 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
The pkzip I have says normal or strong encyption. I don’t know how strong. Allen It is probably fine, but I happened to land on WinZip Pro, and have opted to stay with it for consistency sake when I automated my script and batch file on-the-fly builds (table-centric design). If what you have works for your purposes, no sense in changing. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore The pkzip I have says normal or strong encyption. I don’t know how strong. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale I do not know if PKZip ever went as far as providing true encryption with their product or not, as once I cut to WinZip for those two features I standardized my distributions on that Zip app. Once I standardized I never looked back. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 26/08/2007 21:34 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
Actually that was not the point. My point was those people who don’t want to pay for winzip maybe should use something free that works. Rather than sit there with the nag screen. I agree you point, its why I used csmail and not the free blat. Mind you blat is still going and it looks like csmail is not as I don’t get replies to the question of why it does not work on vista. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Sent: 27 August 2007 16:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore The pkzip I have says normal or strong encyption. I don’t know how strong. Allen It is probably fine, but I happened to land on WinZip Pro, and have opted to stay with it for consistency sake when I automated my script and batch file on-the-fly builds (table-centric design). If what you have works for your purposes, no sense in changing. Gil No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 26/08/2007 21:34 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
Hmmm, Vista eh? I suppose I ought to test WinZip Pro v-11.0 on it g. I have one Dual Boot Win2k Pro/Vista Ultimate PC, and rarely boot into Vista. I have pretty good control so far over what OS is installed on the machines I use for my data processing, but that will slowly come to and end. I think WinZip is the only hting I have not tested in Vista yet. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore Actually that was not the point. My point was those people who don’t want to pay for winzip maybe should use something free that works. Rather than sit there with the nag screen. I agree you point, its why I used csmail and not the free blat. Mind you blat is still going and it looks like csmail is not as I don’t get replies to the question of why it does not work on vista. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Sent: 27 August 2007 16:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore The pkzip I have says normal or strong encyption. I don’t know how strong. Allen It is probably fine, but I happened to land on WinZip Pro, and have opted to stay with it for consistency sake when I automated my script and batch file on-the-fly builds (table-centric design). If what you have works for your purposes, no sense in changing. Gil No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 26/08/2007 21:34 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
mrgmhale wrote: Pkzip had a free one. Why use winzip ? I use WinZip Pro (v-10.0+) for its true encryption with compression (64 or 128 bit, I use 64 bit),and for its Command Line interface that can be used to automated Zip/Unzip (with or without encryption). WinZip Pro's encryption is not just a simple password protection feature that can be easily cracked, but a very robust offering of several encryption techniques. Since I send receive files containing customer and sales data between my ftp server and client machinery, and ftp packets are sent in Clear Text, even with standard Zip compression the transfers are vulnerable to being snagged by a 3rd party while in transit. By encrypting and compressing the files, even if they are snagged the snagger will never get into the actual usable form of the file contents. This is done not only because it is the right way to treat client data, but because it is now required by Federal law to protect consumer data that is not otherwise publicy available. Not only PkZip, you also have 7Zip (the one I use) and many others. And if you want secure transfer, then use secure transfer (sftp, ssh, or whatever). I do not know if PKZip ever went as far as providing true encryption with their product or not, as once I cut to WinZip for those two features I standardized my distributions on that Zip app. Once I standardized I never looked back. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore Pkzip had a free one. Why use winzip ? Allen ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
Not only PkZip, you also have 7Zip (the one I use) and many others. And if you want secure transfer, then use secure transfer (sftp, ssh, or whatever). From the last time I looked into sftp it seemed there was no set standard between ftp Servers for sftp. Everyone I looked at had their own flavor. I use Serv-U-ftp Server, and to use sftp I had to license hteir Voyager ftp Client. I tested with ws-ftp Pro with their sftp, and it would not connect with serv-U-ftp. I could get Voyager to connect, usually, but it also proved unreliable. I nromally create an ftp script file on-the-fly for my remote machinery to send/receive files between their location and my ftp Server. I shell into Command Prompt (DOS) and use that to effect the transfer as opposed to requiring my clients to license ftp client software just for me, when the ftp shell works fine. Of course, ftp Shell will not handle sftp, thus the WinZip with Encryption. I need to Zip the files anyway, so adding the encryption feature just makes sense for my envrionment. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore mrgmhale wrote: Pkzip had a free one. Why use winzip ? I use WinZip Pro (v-10.0+) for its true encryption with compression (64 or 128 bit, I use 64 bit),and for its Command Line interface that can be used to automated Zip/Unzip (with or without encryption). WinZip Pro's encryption is not just a simple password protection feature that can be easily cracked, but a very robust offering of several encryption techniques. Since I send receive files containing customer and sales data between my ftp server and client machinery, and ftp packets are sent in Clear Text, even with standard Zip compression the transfers are vulnerable to being snagged by a 3rd party while in transit. By encrypting and compressing the files, even if they are snagged the snagger will never get into the actual usable form of the file contents. This is done not only because it is the right way to treat client data, but because it is now required by Federal law to protect consumer data that is not otherwise publicy available. Not only PkZip, you also have 7Zip (the one I use) and many others. And if you want secure transfer, then use secure transfer (sftp, ssh, or whatever). I do not know if PKZip ever went as far as providing true encryption with their product or not, as once I cut to WinZip for those two features I standardized my distributions on that Zip app. Once I standardized I never looked back. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore Pkzip had a free one. Why use winzip ? Allen [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
Winzip works fine, as do almost all XP/2000 applications. Once in a blue moon you may have to right click on the installer and modify it so as to run as an Administrator, but otherwise it should work fine. A year+ into daily Vista use and I rarely encounter previous-gen software that doesn't work fine. As far as free utilities and that sort of thing goes, drop by Sourceforge once in a while, their Vista-friendly software libraries are coming along nicely. David Smith Systems Administrator Doan Family of Dealerships (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore Hmmm, Vista eh? I suppose I ought to test WinZip Pro v-11.0 on it g. I have one Dual Boot Win2k Pro/Vista Ultimate PC, and rarely boot into Vista. I have pretty good control so far over what OS is installed on the machines I use for my data processing, but that will slowly come to and end. I think WinZip is the only hting I have not tested in Vista yet. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allen Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore Actually that was not the point. My point was those people who don’t want to pay for winzip maybe should use something free that works. Rather than sit there with the nag screen. I agree you point, its why I used csmail and not the free blat. Mind you blat is still going and it looks like csmail is not as I don’t get replies to the question of why it does not work on vista. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Sent: 27 August 2007 16:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage,problemsgalore The pkzip I have says normal or strong encyption. I don’t know how strong. Allen It is probably fine, but I happened to land on WinZip Pro, and have opted to stay with it for consistency sake when I automated my script and batch file on-the-fly builds (table-centric design). If what you have works for your purposes, no sense in changing. Gil No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 26/08/2007 21:34 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
MB Software Solutions wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: snipped I have decorative security doors on my home to protect me from the bad people. Why not do the same with my products out for sale? ...right next to the Welcome sign, eh? g Bigfoot kicked in my back door 17 years or so ago. They took TV entertainment, a lot of my wife's family pieces out of her jewelry box, a computer, etc. I was not a happy camper. The dealing with the loss was very trying. The phone calls from security companies who read the police blotter that I got broken into. The insurance company telling me that they were going to dump my policy because it was the second claim in a year. Trust me, when they say that no other insurance company will pick you up. It tried to replace them for years because I was so moved by their implication that I was somehow the BAD person. This is what my doors look like. http://amsd.thomasnet.com/ImgMedium/a0001005.jpg I worked for a local company who made them, doing FPW, SBT TIW work back in 98/99. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 8/25/2007 5:00 PM ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore
On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote: Bigfoot kicked in my back door 17 years or so ago. They took TV entertainment, a lot of my wife's family pieces out of her jewelry box, a computer, etc. I was not a happy camper. The dealing with the loss was very trying. Yeah, that's exactly what happens when someone uses your software without paying. Thanks for the typically accurate post! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
