Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-11-01 Thread Thierry Nivelet 
More details from Chen: https://www.foxite.com/archives/452242.htm 


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> Le 31 oct. 2017 à 18:09, AndyHC  a écrit :
> 
> +1
> 
> On 31-Oct-2017 6:08 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:
>> Thanks w00dy,
>> As usual an excellent answer to many questions that lots of VFPers will have
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Wondzinski
>> Sent: 31 October 2017 12:29
>> To: 'ProFox Email List' 
>> Subject: AW: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt
>> 
>> Basically, the moniker "VFPA" is three things:
>> 
>> a) the regular 32Bit VFP9 enginge, patched with 30+ bugfixes
>> b) same as a), but with a 64bit engine
>> c) a true 64bit compiler, which doesn't need the runtime etc
>> 
>> BTW, the "A" in VFPA is the next HEX sign after 9, or a 10 in Dec. But it 
>> also fits with the "Advanced" tag :)
>> 
>> VFPA is already around since several years, and Mr.Chen seems to be very 
>> knowledgable with Assembler and debugging C++ machinecode :)
>> 
>> Personally I use the regular 32bit version without any problems at my 
>> customers site. It behaves just as a usual VFP9 without some quirks. I was 
>> bitten by those report-engine bugs as well as the Grid-Optimize problem, and 
>> with VFPA this stuff just works.  You just do a "recompile all" on your 
>> project, put your EXE and that single VFPAR.DLL to your customer and that's 
>> all.  One caveat: VFPA hast he language-Resource-DLL included, thus you need 
>> different VFPAR.dll for different langauges. (Personally I don't like that 
>> approach, since you can't run in a multi-language scenario anymore, where 
>> VFP picks the language DLL according to the user settings)
>> 
>> Also I'm not really convinced about the need for the 64bit version. At least 
>> not for existing desktop applications. As soon as you have some FLLs or OCXs 
>> included, you're basically toasted, since you need those as a 64bit version.
>> Since most of the VFP specific addons are already 15 years old,  the chances 
>> to get those vendors to compile their old stuff into a 64bit version are 
>> somewhat desillusional.
>> 
>> Then: what do you gain from a 64bit version? You don't get over the 2Gb 
>> limit for DBFs, it's just that it can address more RAM. Ok, when did you ran 
>> out of RAM with a VFP version, where the engine was built to work even on
>> PCs with as little as 64MB RAM?You also have a marketing plus, because
>> you're now a native 64bit app. And it may run a little bit faster because of 
>> the unneeded 32Bit layer in Windows.  As long as you don't need any of your 
>> old addons
>> 
>> But it does have a valid usecase for Middle-tier applications, like 
>> ActiveFoxProPages or AFPX or FIC, where the VFP engine connects directly to 
>> 64bit WebServers.
>> BTW: @ChristofWollenhaupt: did you already compiled the AFP engine with VFPA?
>> 
>> The third option, a true compiler, is stil work in progress. It does work, 
>> but stil has the same restrictions as option b). Mr.Chen is working to 
>> enhance the limitations at various parts like max. Stringlength, max DBF 
>> size etc, but there are a lot of complications.
>> 
>> woOdy
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread AndyHC 

+1

On 31-Oct-2017 6:08 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:

Thanks w00dy,
As usual an excellent answer to many questions that lots of VFPers will have

Dave



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Subject: AW: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Basically, the moniker "VFPA" is three things:

a) the regular 32Bit VFP9 enginge, patched with 30+ bugfixes
b) same as a), but with a 64bit engine
c) a true 64bit compiler, which doesn't need the runtime etc

BTW, the "A" in VFPA is the next HEX sign after 9, or a 10 in Dec. But it also fits with 
the "Advanced" tag :)

VFPA is already around since several years, and Mr.Chen seems to be very 
knowledgable with Assembler and debugging C++ machinecode :)

Personally I use the regular 32bit version without any problems at my customers site. It 
behaves just as a usual VFP9 without some quirks. I was bitten by those report-engine 
bugs as well as the Grid-Optimize problem, and with VFPA this stuff just works.  You just 
do a "recompile all" on your project, put your EXE and that single VFPAR.DLL to 
your customer and that's all.  One caveat: VFPA hast he language-Resource-DLL included, 
thus you need different VFPAR.dll for different langauges. (Personally I don't like that 
approach, since you can't run in a multi-language scenario anymore, where VFP picks the 
language DLL according to the user settings)

Also I'm not really convinced about the need for the 64bit version. At least 
not for existing desktop applications. As soon as you have some FLLs or OCXs 
included, you're basically toasted, since you need those as a 64bit version.
Since most of the VFP specific addons are already 15 years old,  the chances to 
get those vendors to compile their old stuff into a 64bit version are somewhat 
desillusional.

Then: what do you gain from a 64bit version? You don't get over the 2Gb limit 
for DBFs, it's just that it can address more RAM. Ok, when did you ran out of 
RAM with a VFP version, where the engine was built to work even on
PCs with as little as 64MB RAM?You also have a marketing plus, because
you're now a native 64bit app. And it may run a little bit faster because of 
the unneeded 32Bit layer in Windows.  As long as you don't need any of your old 
addons

But it does have a valid usecase for Middle-tier applications, like 
ActiveFoxProPages or AFPX or FIC, where the VFP engine connects directly to 
64bit WebServers.
BTW: @ChristofWollenhaupt: did you already compiled the AFP engine with VFPA?

The third option, a true compiler, is stil work in progress. It does work, but 
stil has the same restrictions as option b). Mr.Chen is working to enhance the 
limitations at various parts like max. Stringlength, max DBF size etc, but 
there are a lot of complications.

woOdy




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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Thanks w00dy,
As usual an excellent answer to many questions that lots of VFPers will have

Dave



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-Original Message-
From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Wondzinski
Sent: 31 October 2017 12:29
To: 'ProFox Email List' 
Subject: AW: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Basically, the moniker "VFPA" is three things:

a) the regular 32Bit VFP9 enginge, patched with 30+ bugfixes
b) same as a), but with a 64bit engine
c) a true 64bit compiler, which doesn't need the runtime etc

BTW, the "A" in VFPA is the next HEX sign after 9, or a 10 in Dec. But it also 
fits with the "Advanced" tag :)

VFPA is already around since several years, and Mr.Chen seems to be very 
knowledgable with Assembler and debugging C++ machinecode :)

Personally I use the regular 32bit version without any problems at my customers 
site. It behaves just as a usual VFP9 without some quirks. I was bitten by 
those report-engine bugs as well as the Grid-Optimize problem, and with VFPA 
this stuff just works.  You just do a "recompile all" on your project, put your 
EXE and that single VFPAR.DLL to your customer and that's all.  One caveat: 
VFPA hast he language-Resource-DLL included, thus you need different VFPAR.dll 
for different langauges. (Personally I don't like that approach, since you 
can't run in a multi-language scenario anymore, where VFP picks the language 
DLL according to the user settings)

Also I'm not really convinced about the need for the 64bit version. At least 
not for existing desktop applications. As soon as you have some FLLs or OCXs 
included, you're basically toasted, since you need those as a 64bit version.
Since most of the VFP specific addons are already 15 years old,  the chances to 
get those vendors to compile their old stuff into a 64bit version are somewhat 
desillusional.

Then: what do you gain from a 64bit version? You don't get over the 2Gb limit 
for DBFs, it's just that it can address more RAM. Ok, when did you ran out of 
RAM with a VFP version, where the engine was built to work even on
PCs with as little as 64MB RAM?You also have a marketing plus, because
you're now a native 64bit app. And it may run a little bit faster because of 
the unneeded 32Bit layer in Windows.  As long as you don't need any of your old 
addons

But it does have a valid usecase for Middle-tier applications, like 
ActiveFoxProPages or AFPX or FIC, where the VFP engine connects directly to 
64bit WebServers.
BTW: @ChristofWollenhaupt: did you already compiled the AFP engine with VFPA?

The third option, a true compiler, is stil work in progress. It does work, but 
stil has the same restrictions as option b). Mr.Chen is working to enhance the 
limitations at various parts like max. Stringlength, max DBF size etc, but 
there are a lot of

RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Just seen I was looking at the wrong prices and it does have a free version. 
I'll give it a look unless anyone has some review details of it.

Dave




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At nearly £1,200 pounds sterling it isn't exactly cheap for a product that 
isn't mainstream!

I didn't pay that for CA Visual Objects and that went the way of the software 
scrap bin.

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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
At nearly £1,200 pounds sterling it isn't exactly cheap for a product that 
isn't mainstream!

I didn't pay that for CA Visual Objects and that went the way of the software 
scrap bin.

Dave




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Subject: Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

> Another false dawn{  :-)  } and Craig seems to have unfortunately
> disappeared off the VFP scene over the last few years after producing
> some brilliant work.
>

You should look at XSharp as it's effectively what VFP Studio could have become.

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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Alan Bourke 
> Another false dawn{  :-)  } and Craig seems to have unfortunately
> disappeared off the VFP scene over the last few years after producing
> some brilliant work.
> 

You should look at XSharp as it's effectively what VFP Studio could have
become.

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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread AndyHC 
In my last job (as in last not previous ) I wrote an interface to a 
time recording system that sort of was and wasn't VFP - It was written 
in C, included the C libraries for all the VFP interface calls, and the 
rest was sort of VFP pseudo-code using function calls in place of VFP 
commands (a little bit reminiscent of Clipper).


On 31-Oct-2017 3:38 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:

Apologies, as pro_ext.h is obviously globally available if you wish to do any 
interfacing to VFP... I have used it before but years ago and in a very 
rudimentary way so access by Microsoft is obviously allowed.

Mr Chen must simply be a very, very intelligent and talented individual!!

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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Paul Hemans 
Dave,
I saw a notification of a new message just as I had hit send. I have seen
some of the messages on foxite and the impression I get is that there are
some bug fixes in vfpA and better 64 support. However, it doesn't change
the core runtimes, but I could be wrong there.

Paul

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Dave Crozier <da...@flexipol.co.uk> wrote:

> Paul,
> I was a little hasty in my response (see previous post which pre-empted
> yours) and stand corrected.
>
> As stated I did some work interfacing C++ into VFP 7 but is was a lifetime
> ago ... or seems like that!
>
> Even the thought of it brings shudders to my spine.
>
> Dave
>
>
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> Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared
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> to be sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until
> such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall
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> Sent: 31 October 2017 10:10
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> Subject: Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt
>
> Dave
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa975726(v=vs.71).aspx
>
> To use the header file and create a compiled library, you need:
>
>- The header file Pro_ext.h. You can print this file to see the function
>declarations, typedefs, and structs used in the Visual FoxPro API.
>- The file Winapims.lib.
>
> Both of these files are installed in the API subdirectory when you install
> Visual FoxPro.
>
> Nothing fishy there.
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Dave Crozier <da...@flexipol.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Posts from 'Mr Chen' in Foxite... he/she obviously know their stuff
> > and have been developing for a good while.
> >
> > https://www.foxite.com/members/default.aspx?id=4e637c9c-b764-4c9d-99d8
> > -
> > 0dfddba20427
> >
> >
> > if you look at his post on the Report Footer fix
> >
> > http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix.asp
> >
> > he actually shows code to "pro_ext.h" with Copyright to Microsoft
> > Corporation. Surely this code wouldn't be legitimately available for
> > duplication or modification. Hence my suspect mind as to how the code
> > was obtained. Either that or I'm becoming a very cynical human being!!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Wow,
Just looked and Craig's VFP Studio in association with Bo Durban was almost 10 
years ago!!!

Dave




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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 31 October 2017 10:32
To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>
Subject: RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Andy,
Yes it has started a bit of a buzz. However I remember the sadly departed Allen 
and myself having a similar discussion about a similar product from a company 
called Ecologica (I think) which seemed to fizzle out about the same time that 
Craig Boyd announced that his VFP Studio product would be about 4 months away!.

https://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/blog/index.php/2008/02/20/vfp-studio-code-editor-screencast/

Another false dawn{  :-)  } and Craig seems to have unfortunately disappeared 
off the VFP scene over the last few years after producing some brilliant work.

Dave




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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Andy,
Yes it has started a bit of a buzz. However I remember the sadly departed Allen 
and myself having a similar discussion about a similar product from a company 
called Ecologica (I think) which seemed to fizzle out about the same time that 
Craig Boyd announced that his VFP Studio product would be about 4 months away!.

https://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/blog/index.php/2008/02/20/vfp-studio-code-editor-screencast/

Another false dawn{  :-)  } and Craig seems to have unfortunately disappeared 
off the VFP scene over the last few years after producing some brilliant work.

Dave




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Sent: 31 October 2017 10:25
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Subject: Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Dave, don't forget there's a lot of stuff in xsource.

 and it's good to see I stirred up some interest in baiyujia.com

On 31-Oct-2017 3:27 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> Posts from 'Mr Chen' in Foxite... he/she obviously know their stuff and have 
> been developing for a good while.
>
> https://www.foxite.com/members/default.aspx?id=4e637c9c-b764-4c9d-99d8-0dfddba20427
>
>
> if you look at his post on the Report Footer fix
>
> http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix.asp
>
> he actually shows code to "pro_ext.h" with Copyright to Microsoft 
> Corporation. Surely this code wouldn't be legitimately available for 
> duplication or modification. Hence my suspect mind as to how the code was 
> obtained. Either that or I'm becoming a very cynical human being!!
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> ---
> 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
> Sent: 31 October 2017 09:29
> To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>
> Subject: RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt
>
> Either these guys are very, very, very bright or there just COULD have been 
> some industrial espionage going on here I think.
>
> They do seem to have so much in depth information about the inner workings of 
> VFP and the layout/composition of the existing VFP Code Base.
>
> Just a thought but not complaining though if it works!
>
> Dave
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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread AndyHC 

Dave, don't forget there's a lot of stuff in xsource.

 and it's good to see I stirred up some interest in baiyujia.com

On 31-Oct-2017 3:27 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:

Posts from 'Mr Chen' in Foxite... he/she obviously know their stuff and have 
been developing for a good while.

https://www.foxite.com/members/default.aspx?id=4e637c9c-b764-4c9d-99d8-0dfddba20427


if you look at his post on the Report Footer fix

http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix.asp

he actually shows code to "pro_ext.h" with Copyright to Microsoft Corporation. 
Surely this code wouldn't be legitimately available for duplication or modification. 
Hence my suspect mind as to how the code was obtained. Either that or I'm becoming a very 
cynical human being!!

Dave




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Subject: RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Either these guys are very, very, very bright or there just COULD have been 
some industrial espionage going on here I think.

They do seem to have so much in depth information about the inner workings of 
VFP and the layout/composition of the existing VFP Code Base.

Just a thought but not complaining though if it works!

Dave




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I was surprised to read about this today - had not even heard of it till now.

Very interesting indeed!

-K-


On 10/30/2017 1:05 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:

About time we had a discussion section for this.
Must admit it had flown under my radar until the reference to it was posted 
here.
Any more information from anyone may be welcome to us all.
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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Apologies, as pro_ext.h is obviously globally available if you wish to do any 
interfacing to VFP... I have used it before but years ago and in a very 
rudimentary way so access by Microsoft is obviously allowed.

Mr Chen must simply be a very, very intelligent and talented individual!!

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Sent: 31 October 2017 09:57
To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>
Subject: RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Posts from 'Mr Chen' in Foxite... he/she obviously know their stuff and have 
been developing for a good while.

https://www.foxite.com/members/default.aspx?id=4e637c9c-b764-4c9d-99d8-0dfddba20427


if you look at his post on the Report Footer fix

http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix.asp

he actually shows code to "pro_ext.h" with Copyright to Microsoft Corporation. 
Surely this code wouldn't be legitimately available for duplication or 
modification. Hence my suspect mind as to how the code was obtained. Either 
that or I'm becoming a very cynical human being!!

Dave




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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Paul,
I was a little hasty in my response (see previous post which pre-empted yours) 
and stand corrected.

As stated I did some work interfacing C++ into VFP 7 but is was a lifetime ago 
... or seems like that!

Even the thought of it brings shudders to my spine.

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-Original Message-
From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hemans
Sent: 31 October 2017 10:10
To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>
Subject: Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Dave
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa975726(v=vs.71).aspx

To use the header file and create a compiled library, you need:

   - The header file Pro_ext.h. You can print this file to see the function
   declarations, typedefs, and structs used in the Visual FoxPro API.
   - The file Winapims.lib.

Both of these files are installed in the API subdirectory when you install 
Visual FoxPro.

Nothing fishy there.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Dave Crozier <da...@flexipol.co.uk> wrote:

> Posts from 'Mr Chen' in Foxite... he/she obviously know their stuff
> and have been developing for a good while.
>
> https://www.foxite.com/members/default.aspx?id=4e637c9c-b764-4c9d-99d8
> -
> 0dfddba20427
>
>
> if you look at his post on the Report Footer fix
>
> http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix.asp
>
> he actually shows code to "pro_ext.h" with Copyright to Microsoft
> Corporation. Surely this code wouldn't be legitimately available for
> duplication or modification. Hence my suspect mind as to how the code
> was obtained. Either that or I'm becoming a very cynical human being!!
>
> Dave
>
>
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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Paul Hemans 
Dave
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa975726(v=vs.71).aspx

To use the header file and create a compiled library, you need:

   - The header file Pro_ext.h. You can print this file to see the function
   declarations, typedefs, and structs used in the Visual FoxPro API.
   - The file Winapims.lib.

Both of these files are installed in the API subdirectory when you install
Visual FoxPro.

Nothing fishy there.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Dave Crozier <da...@flexipol.co.uk> wrote:

> Posts from 'Mr Chen' in Foxite... he/she obviously know their stuff and
> have been developing for a good while.
>
> https://www.foxite.com/members/default.aspx?id=4e637c9c-b764-4c9d-99d8-
> 0dfddba20427
>
>
> if you look at his post on the Report Footer fix
>
> http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix.asp
>
> he actually shows code to "pro_ext.h" with Copyright to Microsoft
> Corporation. Surely this code wouldn't be legitimately available for
> duplication or modification. Hence my suspect mind as to how the code was
> obtained. Either that or I'm becoming a very cynical human being!!
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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> Sent: 31 October 2017 09:29
> To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>
> Subject: RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt
>
> Either these guys are very, very, very bright or there just COULD have
> been some industrial espionage going on here I think.
>
> They do seem to have so much in depth information about the inner workings
> of VFP and the layout/composition of the existing VFP Code Base.
>
> Just a thought but not complaining though if it works!
>
> Dave
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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Posts from 'Mr Chen' in Foxite... he/she obviously know their stuff and have 
been developing for a good while.

https://www.foxite.com/members/default.aspx?id=4e637c9c-b764-4c9d-99d8-0dfddba20427


if you look at his post on the Report Footer fix

http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpdocuments/f_vfp9fix.asp

he actually shows code to "pro_ext.h" with Copyright to Microsoft Corporation. 
Surely this code wouldn't be legitimately available for duplication or 
modification. Hence my suspect mind as to how the code was obtained. Either 
that or I'm becoming a very cynical human being!!

Dave




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those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured 
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 31 October 2017 09:29
To: ProFox Email List <profox@leafe.com>
Subject: RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

Either these guys are very, very, very bright or there just COULD have been 
some industrial espionage going on here I think.

They do seem to have so much in depth information about the inner workings of 
VFP and the layout/composition of the existing VFP Code Base.

Just a thought but not complaining though if it works!

Dave




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RE: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-31 Thread Dave Crozier 
Either these guys are very, very, very bright or there just COULD have been 
some industrial espionage going on here I think.

They do seem to have so much in depth information about the inner workings of 
VFP and the layout/composition of the existing VFP Code Base.

Just a thought but not complaining though if it works!

Dave




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the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller
Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds 
payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold 
by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as 
the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods 
as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from 
those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured 
and identified as the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use 
the goods in the ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the 
property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any 
time

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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt at VR-FX
Sent: 30 October 2017 17:37
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

I was surprised to read about this today - had not even heard of it till now.

Very interesting indeed!

-K-


On 10/30/2017 1:05 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:
> About time we had a discussion section for this.
> Must admit it had flown under my radar until the reference to it was posted 
> here.
> Any more information from anyone may be welcome to us all.
> Dave
>


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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-30 Thread Kurt at VR-FX 
I was surprised to read about this today - had not even heard of it till 
now.


Very interesting indeed!

-K-


On 10/30/2017 1:05 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:

About time we had a discussion section for this.
Must admit it had flown under my radar until the reference to it was posted 
here.
Any more information from anyone may be welcome to us all.
Dave




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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-30 Thread Ted Roche 
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> About time we had a discussion section for this.
>
> Must admit it had flown under my radar until the reference to it was posted 
> here.
>
> Any more information from anyone may be welcome to us all.
>

For folks just tuning in, here are a few pages that deal with "VFP10"
or "VFP Advanced"

http://baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/

The "VFP Compiler:" http://baiyujia.com/vfpcompiler/en/default.asp

and

$ whois baiyujia.com
[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.west263.com]
[Querying whois.west263.com]
[whois.west263.com]
Domain Name: baiyujia.com
Registry Domain ID: 1168970220_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.west.cn
Registrar URL: www.west.cn
Last updated Date: 2008-01-08T08:25:05.0Z
Creation Date: 2008-01-08T08:25:05.0Z
Expiration Date: 2018-01-08T08:25:05.0Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-01-08T08:25:05.0Z
Registrar: Chengdu west dimension digital technology Co., LTD
Registrar IANA ID: 1556
Reseller:
Domain Status: ok http://www.icann.org/epp#ok
Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: Ke Yang
Registrant Organization: pending update
Registrant Street: Si Chuan Sheng Cheng Du Shi Jin Niu Qu Huan Qiu Guang Chang
Registrant City: CDS
Registrant State/Province: SCS
Registrant Postal Code: 610031
Registrant Country: CN
Registrant Phone: +86.2886263960
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +86.2886263960
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: ccb2...@163.com


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Re: VFP10 Advanced was FoxPro DevCon in Frankfurt

2017-10-30 Thread Thierry Nivelet 
What I know from http://www.baiyujia.com/vfpadvanced/f_vfpa_about.asp 
 and from testing the 
downloads available on that page:
- VFPA = VFP9 + 31 bug fixes (as of now, has increased over time)
- VFPA*.* replace VFP9*.*
- VFPA installation clones the VFP9 directory and creates VFPA.exe there, and 
Microsoft Shared\VFP\VFPA*.dll, next to VFP9*.dll
- VFPA IDE == VFP9 IDE
- *.fxp compiled with VFPA may not work with VFP9

What I guess: VFP C++ compiler is a different beast, Baiyujia *may* use it to 
produce VFPA*.* from VFP9*.*

Again, risk-free install and trial, go ahead sharing your experience.

Thierry Nivelet
FoxinCloud
Give your VFP app a new life in the cloud
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> Le 30 oct. 2017 à 18:05, Dave Crozier  a écrit :
> 
> About time we had a discussion section for this.
> 
> Must admit it had flown under my radar until the reference to it was posted 
> here.
> 
> Any more information from anyone may be welcome to us all.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
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> Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise the 
> risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent via 
> e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to 
> run your own virus check before opening any
> attachments received as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept 
> any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received.
> 
> It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate 
> virus protection.
> 
> Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
> Unit 14 Bentwood Road
> Carrs
> Industrial Estate
> Haslingden
> Rossendale
> Lancashire
> BB4 5HH
> 
> Tel:01706-222792
> Fax: 01706-224683
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> 
> Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property 
> in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller
> Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds 
> payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be 
> sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such 
> time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold 
> the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods 
> separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored 
> protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be 
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