Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread mike
At my work we have self checkout and every now and then it will either count to 
ten in spanish or say uh-oh. When i asked my boss about this she said that 
it's not a bug, its a feature! Let me say I was laughing my ass off for the 
rest of the day!

Mike
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From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com

Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:41:23 
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


3 Biggest Software Lies

I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty funny…

3 Biggest Software Lies:

   1. The program’s fully tested and bug-free
   2. We’re working on the documentation
   3. Of course we can modify it!

Do you have any other items to add to the above list?



-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Web and Windows Development
Independent Contractor
Memphis TN

901.246-0159

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RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Gil Hale RR
Item 0 (tops the list), All you have to do is...
Item 4, This won't take but about 2 weeks.
Item 5, It will be done by (name month 4 weeks out, neglect to say you
meant next year in said month)...

Gil

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 Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:53 AM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


 At my work we have self checkout and every now and then it will
 either count to ten in spanish or say uh-oh. When i asked my
 boss about this she said that it's not a bug, its a feature! Let
 me say I was laughing my ass off for the rest of the day!

 Mike
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com

 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:41:23
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


 3 Biggest Software Lies

 I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty funny…

 3 Biggest Software Lies:

1. The program’s fully tested and bug-free
2. We’re working on the documentation
3. Of course we can modify it!

 Do you have any other items to add to the above list?



 --
 Stephen Russell
 Sr. Production Systems Programmer
 Web and Windows Development
 Independent Contractor
 Memphis TN

 901.246-0159

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RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Adam Buckland
The user interface was designed with the user, they wanted all the menus
arranged alphabetically
Nah, it's just coincidence that your password is moron-dickhead
Sure it's only a small change




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3 Biggest Software Lies

I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty
funny...

3 Biggest Software Lies:

   1. The program's fully tested and bug-free
   2. We're working on the documentation
   3. Of course we can modify it!

Do you have any other items to add to the above list?



-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Web and Windows Development
Independent Contractor
Memphis TN

901.246-0159

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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Bill Anderson
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.comwrote:

 3 Biggest Software Lies

 I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty funny…

3 Biggest Software Lies:

   1. The program’s fully tested and bug-free
   2. We’re working on the documentation
   3. Of course we can modify it!

 Do you have any other items to add to the above list?


4) .NET is revolutionary?

Bill


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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread mike
Wheres items 1, 2, 3 on your list?
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:01:41 
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


Item 0 (tops the list), All you have to do is...
Item 4, This won't take but about 2 weeks.
Item 5, It will be done by (name month 4 weeks out, neglect to say you
meant next year in said month)...

Gil

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 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com
 [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com]on Behalf Of m...@mikewohlrab.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:53 AM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


 At my work we have self checkout and every now and then it will
 either count to ten in spanish or say uh-oh. When i asked my
 boss about this she said that it's not a bug, its a feature! Let
 me say I was laughing my ass off for the rest of the day!

 Mike
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com

 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:41:23
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


 3 Biggest Software Lies

 I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty funny…

 3 Biggest Software Lies:

1. The program’s fully tested and bug-free
2. We’re working on the documentation
3. Of course we can modify it!

 Do you have any other items to add to the above list?



 --
 Stephen Russell
 Sr. Production Systems Programmer
 Web and Windows Development
 Independent Contractor
 Memphis TN

 901.246-0159

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RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Gil Hale RR
You provided 1, 2,  3 already.  I did not ant to trounce your list!

Gil

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 Wheres items 1, 2, 3 on your list?
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 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:01:41
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


 Item 0 (tops the list), All you have to do is...
 Item 4, This won't take but about 2 weeks.
 Item 5, It will be done by (name month 4 weeks out, neglect to say you
 meant next year in said month)...

 Gil

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  Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:53 AM
  To: profoxt...@leafe.com
  Subject: Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers
 
 
  At my work we have self checkout and every now and then it will
  either count to ten in spanish or say uh-oh. When i asked my
  boss about this she said that it's not a bug, its a feature! Let
  me say I was laughing my ass off for the rest of the day!
 
  Mike
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com
 
  Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:41:23
  To: profoxt...@leafe.com
  Subject: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers
 
 
  3 Biggest Software Lies
 
  I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty funny…
 
  3 Biggest Software Lies:
 
 1. The program’s fully tested and bug-free
 2. We’re working on the documentation
 3. Of course we can modify it!
 
  Do you have any other items to add to the above list?
 
 
 
  --
  Stephen Russell
  Sr. Production Systems Programmer
  Web and Windows Development
  Independent Contractor
  Memphis TN
 
  901.246-0159
 
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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote:
 Wheres items 1, 2, 3 on your list?
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:01:41
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


 Item 0 (tops the list), All you have to do is...
 Item 4, This won't take but about 2 weeks.
 Item 5, It will be done by (name month 4 weeks out, neglect to say you
 meant next year in said month)...

 Gil


He's assuming the same 1,2,3 as the op.




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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread mike
The customer asks you about the random program crashes so you tell them it is a 
bonus feature you built into the software!

Mike


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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:28:37 
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.comwrote:

 3 Biggest Software Lies

 I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty funny…

3 Biggest Software Lies:

   1. The program’s fully tested and bug-free
   2. We’re working on the documentation
   3. Of course we can modify it!

 Do you have any other items to add to the above list?


4) .NET is revolutionary?

Bill


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RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Gil Hale RR
I have my machines running so safely they won't run at all!

heh-heh

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 The customer asks you about the random program crashes so you
 tell them it is a bonus feature you built into the software!

 Mike


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 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:28:37
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers


 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Stephen Russell
 srussell...@gmail.comwrote:

  3 Biggest Software Lies
 
  I ran across the following quote today and thought it was pretty funny…
 
 3 Biggest Software Lies:
 
1. The program’s fully tested and bug-free
2. We’re working on the documentation
3. Of course we can modify it!
 
  Do you have any other items to add to the above list?


 4) .NET is revolutionary?

 Bill


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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Michael Madigan

how about Sure my program will run on a Pentium 3 running windows 98.

 
--- On Thu, 4/2/09, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com
 Subject: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:41 AM
 3 Biggest Software Lies
 
 I ran across the following quote today and thought it was
 pretty funny…
 
     3 Biggest Software Lies:
 
        1. The program’s fully
 tested and bug-free
        2. We’re working on the
 documentation
        3. Of course we can modify
 it!
 
 Do you have any other items to add to the above list?
 
 
 
 -- 
 Stephen Russell
 Sr. Production Systems Programmer
 Web and Windows Development
 Independent Contractor
 Memphis TN
 
 901.246-0159
 
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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Michael Madigan

how about Sure my program will run on a Pentium 3 running windows 98.

 
--- On Thu, 4/2/09, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com
 Subject: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:41 AM
 3 Biggest Software Lies
 
 I ran across the following quote today and thought it was
 pretty funny…
 
     3 Biggest Software Lies:
 
        1. The program’s fully
 tested and bug-free
        2. We’re working on the
 documentation
        3. Of course we can modify
 it!
 
 Do you have any other items to add to the above list?
 
 
 
 -- 
 Stephen Russell
 Sr. Production Systems Programmer
 Web and Windows Development
 Independent Contractor
 Memphis TN
 
 901.246-0159
 
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RE: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Gil Hale RR
Actually, my VFP7 compiled core app will run great on 32Mg RAM with a P-II CPU. 
 It runs better with 64Mg, as some lower end machines share base RAM, hence a 
32Mg machines may have only 30Mg.  But that aside I develped the app on a P-90 
Pentium machine with 128Mg RAM, and now test it under Win98 (it will run on 
Win95, but...) via VirtualPC, configured with 64Mg RAM, and it still runs 
great.  But, it also runs great on the newer XP Pro and Vista OS platforms also 
g...  Okay, best with XP or 2000 Pro, screw that Vista noise.  Not one of my 
clients have it running in their stores yet, anywyere.

Gil

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 how about Sure my program will run on a Pentium 3 running windows 98.
 
  
 --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com
  Subject: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers
  To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
  Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:41 AM
  3 Biggest Software Lies
  
  I ran across the following quote today and thought it was
  pretty funny…
  
  3 Biggest Software Lies:
  
 1. The program’s fully
  tested and bug-free
 2. We’re working on the
  documentation
 3. Of course we can modify
  it!
  
  Do you have any other items to add to the above list?
  
  
  
  -- 
  Stephen Russell
  Sr. Production Systems Programmer
  Web and Windows Development
  Independent Contractor
  Memphis TN
  
  901.246-0159
  
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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Alan Bourke
I know exactly what you want.

(How can I, when *you* don't even know despite thinking that you do).

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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread Ken Kixmoeller/fh

On Apr 2, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:

 I know exactly what you want.

 (How can I, when *you* don't even know despite thinking that you do).

... but being *so* f'in experienced in the information biz, I know  
what you *really* need, even if you don't know it... yet.




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Re: [NF] 3 biggest lies we tell as developers

2009-04-02 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Michael Madigan wrote:
 how about Sure my program will run on a Pentium 3 running windows 98.


...and with Foxpro, that's true!  LOL!




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