Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-08 Thread Sophie
Hi Charles, all,
Le 07/01/2014 17:30, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
[...]

 
 Anyone knows people in the openSuse community? We could ask for the
 code...

so here are the sources of the planet:
https://github.com/openSUSE/planet.opensuse.org

Cheers
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-08 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2014-01-08 03:55, Sophie a écrit :

Hi Charles, all,
Le 07/01/2014 17:30, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
[...]


Anyone knows people in the openSuse community? We could ask for the
code...

so here are the sources of the planet:
https://github.com/openSUSE/planet.opensuse.org

Cheers
Sophie


In fact, if you read the Readme on that page, it is based on the KDE 
Planet code. Anyway, the code is there for us to use.


I have read all of the posts on this thread, and, I support Sophie's 
suggestion of using the OpenSuse Planet code. This option allows users 
to filter the nl blogs they are interested in and does not have EN blog 
dominate as the primary blog, although, we could make the default 
initial blog filter the Official LibreOffice EN blog. Regardless, the 
OpenSuse planet code would allow the choosing of the nl blogs at the 
discretion of the blog users.


We had discussed this topic at length and I seem to remember that the 
final consensus was to have different/individual nl blogs which would 
work well the OpenSuse code. I would prefer not to have one big blog 
mix-up which IMO would discourage readers. If I decide to read the EN 
blog, then I would expect to just read EN language posts and not have to 
wade through other nl posts. With the OpenSuse code, I would get to 
personalize my own mix-up of nl blogs, which would be great!


The OpenSuse Planet model seems to address all of our needs.

Cheers,

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:55:58 +0100,
Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi Charles, all,
 Le 07/01/2014 17:30, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 [...]
 
  
  Anyone knows people in the openSuse community? We could ask for the
  code...
 
 so here are the sources of the planet:
 https://github.com/openSUSE/planet.opensuse.org

Thanks!
Florian, Christian, would this take a long time to set up? We don't
necessarily have to set that up in January, but at least if it's
feasible after FOSDEM without too much hassle, I think we should give
it a go...

Best,

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-08 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2014-01-08 12:19:

Florian, Christian, would this take a long time to set up? We don't
necessarily have to set that up in January, but at least if it's
feasible after FOSDEM without too much hassle, I think we should give
it a go...


my proposal is to have a look on this after the website relaunch has 
been done. The latter one will take quite some time, and I think it's 
more important to have this dealt with first also from the infra side 
(which requires some time, especially when native language communities 
start localizing the new site in a staging area we need to setup), and 
then look at the Planet. So, yes, it's doable, but not before the 
website relaunch is done.


Unless, of course, someone comes up with a ready-to-implement solution 
that requires no work from my side, besides adding it to our machine. :-)


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-07 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
2014/1/7 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 Sophie,

 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Le 7 janv. 2014 10:32, Florian Effenberger
 flo...@documentfoundation.org
 a écrit :
 
  Hi,
 
  Sophie wrote on 2014-01-07 08:54:
 
 
  If you can filter the language you want to read and keep that filter
  set, I don't see what is disturbing here. You'll see only German, or
  only Spanish if you want. For me I prefer to see German and Spanish,
 so
  we will be both happy :)
 
 
  no. The current Planet does not support filtering at all. It would be
 one
 large stream, with all languages combined, just as if I wrote my mail
 one
 sentence in German, one in French, one in English. Again, filtering is
 _not_ available in the current Planet setup.
 
  That's why I am so hesitant...
 
 That's why i proposed to use another tool that supports my proposal in
 my
 first answer to Charles :-)

 I was not able to determine what tool OpenSuse is using actually

footer reads © 2010 Pascal Bleser and the openSUSE Community, so ii seems
to be a custom development

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-07 Thread Sophie
Le 07/01/2014 17:30, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 Le Tue, 7 Jan 2014 09:06:32 -0200,
 Daniel A. Rodriguez daniel.armando.rodrig...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 2014/1/7 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 Sophie,

 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Le 7 janv. 2014 10:32, Florian Effenberger
 flo...@documentfoundation.org
 a écrit :

 Hi,

 Sophie wrote on 2014-01-07 08:54:


 If you can filter the language you want to read and keep that
 filter set, I don't see what is disturbing here. You'll see
 only German, or only Spanish if you want. For me I prefer to
 see German and Spanish,
 so
 we will be both happy :)


 no. The current Planet does not support filtering at all. It
 would be
 one
 large stream, with all languages combined, just as if I wrote my
 mail one
 sentence in German, one in French, one in English. Again,
 filtering is _not_ available in the current Planet setup.

 That's why I am so hesitant...

 That's why i proposed to use another tool that supports my
 proposal in my
 first answer to Charles :-)

 I was not able to determine what tool OpenSuse is using actually

 footer reads © 2010 Pascal Bleser and the openSUSE Community, so ii
 seems to be a custom development
 
 Anyone knows people in the openSuse community? We could ask for the
 code...

I'll ask Cedric on irc tomorrow
Cheers
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-06 Thread Sophie
Hi Charles,
Le 06/01/2014 12:23, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
 Dear all,
 
 Some time ago (a long time ago) the decision was made to only have the
 planet as an English only feed. Meaning, the TDF planet is only in
 English.
 
 In the upcoming website, on its front page (see the specs), we will
 have a feed for the TDF planet being displayed aside the official blog
 feed. 
 
 I would like to seize this opportunity to ask an important
 task: recreate a full, multilingual TDF planet . I am happy to help
 select the blogs, but I need your input, you, the native-lang
 community, in sending or publishing the RSS feeds you'd like to see
 aggregated.

Thanks for reviving this :) I would like to have a planet like this one:
http://planet.opensuse.org/global/
You can filter it by language (what I don't like are the flags, you know
why :), but also you are able to display all languages. Even if you
can't read all, I think it has the very positive effect to show the
activities and enthusiasm.
 
 Side question: who runs the existing planet? :-)

I think it's TDF
Cheers
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-06 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:33:02 +0100,
Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi Charles,
 Le 06/01/2014 12:23, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
  Dear all,
  
  Some time ago (a long time ago) the decision was made to only have
  the planet as an English only feed. Meaning, the TDF planet is only
  in English.
  
  In the upcoming website, on its front page (see the specs), we will
  have a feed for the TDF planet being displayed aside the official
  blog feed. 
  
  I would like to seize this opportunity to ask an important
  task: recreate a full, multilingual TDF planet . I am happy to help
  select the blogs, but I need your input, you, the native-lang
  community, in sending or publishing the RSS feeds you'd like to see
  aggregated.
 
 Thanks for reviving this :) I would like to have a planet like this
 one: http://planet.opensuse.org/global/
 You can filter it by language (what I don't like are the flags, you
 know why :), but also you are able to display all languages. Even if
 you can't read all, I think it has the very positive effect to show
 the activities and enthusiasm.

yes indeed. I went to visit the planet -planet software feed aggregator
(http://www.planetplanet.org/) that we currently use and I don't see
anything that would block us from enriching our own platform, so let's
go with it and add more feeds?

Best,

Charles.

  
  Side question: who runs the existing planet? :-)
 
 I think it's TDF
 Cheers
 Sophie
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2014-01-06 12:57:

yes indeed. I went to visit the planet -planet software feed aggregator
(http://www.planetplanet.org/) that we currently use and I don't see
anything that would block us from enriching our own platform, so let's
go with it and add more feeds?


the discussion we had in the past was whether to have multiple language 
at one planet, or one planet per language.


My personal take is to not mix up languages, but rather set up one 
Planet per language. This requires having one maintainer per Planet to 
maintain the feeds.


Setting it up is a rather easy thing. :-)

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2014-01-06 15:01:


Okay. Well, I'd like to experiment with the first option: multiple
languages on one planet. There are indications that the path we chose
first may have been demotivating for some non-English blogging
authors :-)


I personally feel strongly _against_ such a solution, as having a 
zillion of languages mixed in the current planet setup will cause 
nothing but confusion. However, this is just my personal take on that, 
so - if there are no objections from the community, I won't vetoe.



Of course, I assume that we would still need one maintainer per
language?


Yes, that would help to judge the blog's content, indeed.

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] multilingual TDF planet feeds

2014-01-06 Thread Sophie
Le 07/01/2014 00:36, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2014-01-06 15:01:
 
 Okay. Well, I'd like to experiment with the first option: multiple
 languages on one planet. There are indications that the path we chose
 first may have been demotivating for some non-English blogging
 authors :-)
 
 I personally feel strongly _against_ such a solution, as having a
 zillion of languages mixed in the current planet setup will cause
 nothing but confusion. However, this is just my personal take on that,
 so - if there are no objections from the community, I won't vetoe.

If you can filter the language you want to read and keep that filter
set, I don't see what is disturbing here. You'll see only German, or
only Spanish if you want. For me I prefer to see German and Spanish, so
we will be both happy :)
 
 Of course, I assume that we would still need one maintainer per
 language?
 
 Yes, that would help to judge the blog's content, indeed.

Cheers
Sophie


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