[PEDA] Open Topic Forum woes
Hello, all: I have been trying to join the Open Topic Forum for two days now, with no success. I fill in the web form and submit it, but nothing happens. Then I get an e-mail from the DOLIST server with help info in it. Of course, the help info assumes I am doing something wrong or don't know what I am doing, which is not the case. Anyone else having problems with it? Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] 99SE full reinstall.
Re: [PEDA] Clear all nets
Hi Paul This is untested (I'm at home) but from memory you could just add ; PCB:Netlist Action=ClearAllNets to the right click menu. This is changed by going to customize (or just double click the free space in the menu bar) go to help/popups/right mouse click and add the resource in there. You can also take out some of the crap while you're there.. ;-) Rich -Original Message- From: Paul Holland [mailto:paulholland;synergyboardsystems.com] Sent: 23 October 2002 10:34 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Clear all nets Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get at the 'Clear All Nets' process so it can be put in the Right mouse button click menu, or turned into a custom buttom? This is a function we use quite regularly and it would be nice to make it more accessable. Cheers Paul Holland PCB Designer Synergy Board Systems UK Ltd. ISO9001:2000 Cert. No. 3223/02 Tel: 0044 (0) 1522 520222 Fax: 0044 (0) 1522 531222 Mob: 0044 (0) 7799 048851 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.synergyboardsystems.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall.
Tim Fifield wrote: What are the files I need to delete to do a full 99SE reinstall? Tim, See below, I copied a snip from the post from Brad Velander (5 Jul 2002) This is something he got from Protel Tech Support. Wojciech Oborski +++ Protel 99SE Complete Uninstall.(New version emailed from Lori Quevedo) Version # Protel 99SE/ Service Pack 6: PROBLEM: Is there a specific uninstall procedure for Protel? I have uninstalled and reinstalled using add and/remove programs but Protel is still acting up. SOLUTION: 1) Un-install Service Pack 6 for 99SE 2) Un-install 99SE 3) Delete the Design Explorer 99 SE directory (make sure you have no personal files or libraries stored here before you do this). 4) Delete the files *99SE.* from your Windows or Winnt folder 5) Also delete from the Windows or Winnt folder *.bpl and *.dpl, if they are still remaining. 6) Re-install Protel 99 SE a) If Win 9x then Reboot 7) Re-apply Service Pack 6 a) If Win 9x Then Reboot + * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall.
Tim, here is the most current and full clean install instructions, as of July 2002. Revision from Protel Tech Support July 5 2002 Protel 99SE Complete Uninstall.(New version emailed from Lori Quevedo, tested solved my problem that I had using the original clean install procedure.) Version # Protel 99SE/ Service Pack 6: PROBLEM: Is there a specific uninstall procedure for Protel? I have uninstalled and reinstalled using add and/remove programs but Protel is still acting up. SOLUTION: 1) Un-install Service Pack 6 for 99SE 2) Un-install 99SE 3) Delete the Design Explorer 99 SE directory (make sure you have no personal files or libraries stored here before you do this). 4) Delete the files *99SE.* from your Windows or Winnt folder 5) Also delete from the Windows or Winnt folder *.bpl and *.dpl, if they are still remaining. 6) Re-install Protel 99 SE a) If Win 9x then Reboot 7) Re-apply Service Pack 6 a) If Win 9x Then Reboot Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Norsat's Microwave Products Division has now achieved ISO 9001:2000 certification -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:tfifiel1;irf.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:38 AM To: Protel EDA Form Subject: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall. What are the files I need to delete to do a full 99SE reinstall? Is it the client99se.ini and client99se.rcs files? Is there anything else? Tim Fifield * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall.
Wojciech, damn you, you beat me to my own answer. 8^ Have a good day. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Norsat's Microwave Products Division has now achieved ISO 9001:2000 certification -Original Message- From: Wojciech Oborski [mailto:woborski;is.gliwice.pl] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:08 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall. Tim, See below, I copied a snip from the post from Brad Velander (5 Jul 2002) This is something he got from Protel Tech Support. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall.
Thank you sirs! Tim -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:BVelander;norsat.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:26 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall. Tim, here is the most current and full clean install instructions, as of July 2002. Revision from Protel Tech Support July 5 2002 Protel 99SE Complete Uninstall.(New version emailed from Lori Quevedo, tested solved my problem that I had using the original clean install procedure.) Version # Protel 99SE/ Service Pack 6: PROBLEM: Is there a specific uninstall procedure for Protel? I have uninstalled and reinstalled using add and/remove programs but Protel is still acting up. SOLUTION: 1) Un-install Service Pack 6 for 99SE 2) Un-install 99SE 3) Delete the Design Explorer 99 SE directory (make sure you have no personal files or libraries stored here before you do this). 4) Delete the files *99SE.* from your Windows or Winnt folder 5) Also delete from the Windows or Winnt folder *.bpl and *.dpl, if they are still remaining. 6) Re-install Protel 99 SE a) If Win 9x then Reboot 7) Re-apply Service Pack 6 a) If Win 9x Then Reboot Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com Norsat's Microwave Products Division has now achieved ISO 9001:2000 certification -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:tfifiel1;irf.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:38 AM To: Protel EDA Form Subject: [PEDA] 99SE full reinstall. What are the files I need to delete to do a full 99SE reinstall? Is it the client99se.ini and client99se.rcs files? Is there anything else? Tim Fifield * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] 45 degree pad problem !
Abd, please see below. - Original Message - From: Abd ulRahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] 45 degree pad problem ! The best way to learn is to make mistakes. To learn big, make big mistakes. (Of course that isn't the whole story!) Unfortunately for some, this appears to be the only way that they can ever learn anything , but then there are others that just figure it out ahead of time : ) Actually, I find that a rather odd statement coming from someone who claims to have attended Throop Polytechnic. At 12:29 PM 10/16/2002 -0700, JaMi Smith wrote: Even if it is done at gerber time, it may make a difference in how Protel defines the pad to the gerber file based upon whether it is encountered as part of the design or part of a component, either of which should be different than a fill which it will most certainly draw. There are a couple of misconceptions here. Protel does not understand RS-274X rotations. It has been recommended that this be fixed! Fills are normally created by using a flash. I.e., Protel treats a fill, which is always rectangular, as if it were a rectangular pad. It creates an aperture for it. However, because Protel can't rotate this, it must draw rotated non-circular pads. The point I am making is that Protel may in fact be handling things such as a component in a draw it (or define the fill) once and repeat it fashion, and may in fact try and rotate what it has drawn itself by simply recalculating each previously drawn fill segment, as opposed to encountering the object to be drawn in its final rotated state and attempting to draw it from scratch at that point. There are obviously numerous different ways that any of the different kinds of objects could be handled bu Protel, and unless we ask the original programmer or look at the source we will never really know for sure, and cetainly not well enough to be dogmatic. The point is that we know that something is amuck, but we don't quite know what it is and where it is, and my suggestions simply point out a few other possible ways to possibly skirt the problem, if in fact the problem is possibly only in one area, which it may not be. It really depends on how the code handles all of these different things, and where the problem lies in the code. The alternativites that I suggested would excercise any of these internal differences (if they did in fact happen to exist), and may or may not be a workaround, but that will never be known until they are tried. I do not recall how to control the draw width If I remember correctly, the fills may be done with the D10 aperature, but I cannot remember why I remember it that way (may just be another neural failure). You can build up pads with fine draws if you really need them, as part of the library part, I've done this for critical RF parts. Yes, it's a pain As to whether or not it is necessary for a particular design, that's an RF engineering decision that is outside my realm. I'm told that it might be important in some cases. Yes, some of these little things really do matter. What I really want to know is what was the radius of the rounding of the corners of the pads to begin with, and whether or not any of the other suggestions offered in this thread were tried by Daniel and whether any of them worked. Daniel, what's the status. JaMi Smith * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] [OT] memory testing and benchmarking - programs
For anyone interested in a comprehensive set of free tools for testing, benchmarking and thrashing your system and also getting useful comparative measurements to other state of the art systems, try SiSoftware Standard tools, downloaded from http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/sandra/ There is a nice burn-in tool included that will thrash your system continuously and report any errors. Having said that, I must add that nothing seems to thrash my system as bad and heat it up as quickly as my Goes-8 satellite method. It brings the full power load of my GeForce4 card to bare in addition to the CPU load and its very simple to use if you don't really care about the numbers.. Sincerely, Tim Hutcheson Institute for Human and Machine Cognition University of West Florida 40 South Alcaniz St. Pensacola, FL 32501 - There are 10 types of people in the world; those that read binary and those that don't. -- Anonymous Poster -- -Original Message- From: Terry Harris [mailto:terry.harris;iname.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:10 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] [OT] memory testing and benchmarking - programs On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:46:25 -0500, Tim Hutcheson wrote: Seems that my server was blocking me from this group for awhile so I'll repost this since the discussion is ongoing. A simple CPU/video torture test is to go to the NASA Goes-8 weather satellite, http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goes8hurrir.html, select all previous 30 images and then animate. When the animation starts, click on faster until all the delay is gone. Image will blur out on the faster CPU's and your temperatures will start rising rapidly as the video pipeline and the CPU work to sustain the data flow. Simple and effective. A batch file :loop goto loop also uses 100% CPU and proves about as much. The Self test in Prime95 is an excellent system stabilty test. It thrashes the system processor, cache and memory (always 100% CPU usage for me) and most importantly verifies they functioned correctly. Apparently stable systems do fail running Prime95 which is probably why they felt the need for a built in self test. Cheers, Terry. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Clear all nets
Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get at the 'Clear All Nets' process so it can be put in the Right mouse button click menu, or turned into a custom buttom? This is a function we use quite regularly and it would be nice to make it more accessable. Cheers Paul Holland PCB Designer Synergy Board Systems UK Ltd. ISO9001:2000 Cert. No. 3223/02 Tel: 0044 (0) 1522 520222 Fax: 0044 (0) 1522 531222 Mob: 0044 (0) 7799 048851 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.synergyboardsystems.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
