[protobuf] Re: Serialization of primitive types

2011-06-16 Thread Miguel Muñoz
I agree with Marc. When things get complicated, it's a good idea to
separate your tasks. It seems like your java class, which generates
some of the data based on other data, is one issue, and your
serialization is a separate issue. (I know it would be nice to just
make that class serializable, but that may be where you make things
complicated.)

When I want to serialize my classes with protobufs, I create a
separate protobuf object to just handle serialization. Then I create a
utility class that transfers data between my protobuf object and my
java class. Then it's easy to add a constructor to my java class that
takes a protobuf object and defers the work to the utility class.

When I transfer data using protobufs, I don't convert to the protobuf
format until the last possible moment before sending, and I
immediately convert to the java class on receiving data. That lets me
put my protobuf objects behind a facade, so I don't need to know the
serialization details.

-- Miguel Muñoz


On Jun 15, 7:07 am, gabor.dicso gabor.di...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I would like to be able to serialize primitive types platform-
 independently. I have hand-written Java data classes and I want to
 serialize their primitive fields using a cross-platform framework.
 These classes can not be generated, they must be written by hand,
 additional code is generated based upon them. Also, serializing the
 object as a whole isn't an option either, because the fields sometimes
 have to be processed before serializing their values. I have to
 serialize the fields separately. It must be made cross-platform
 because the values will be stored in a database and they may be read
 from other platforms. Creating wrapper PB-objects for each primitive
 type is an overhead I must avoid because the operation will be done
 very frequently and with large amounts of data.

 I found that Protocol Buffers addresses cross-platform serialization
 of objects, but I could not figure out how to use it as a
 serialization framework for primitive types (without having
 created .proto descriptors). Is it possible to use PB as a cross-
 platform serializer-deserializer framework for primitive types?
 Thanks,

 Gabor Dicso

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Re: [protobuf] Re: Serialization of primitive types

2011-06-16 Thread Christopher Smith
I think Gabor wants to avoid the overhead of implementing all that
additional bookkeeping as it'd slow down development. Something that
would effectively generate a protobuf descriptor so that it'd stay
consistent with changes in the Java code.

I would suggest looking at the protostuff project:

http://code.google.com/p/protostuff/

I think it has all that is needed to achieve the goals Gabor is looking for.

--Chris

2011/6/16 Miguel Muñoz swingguy1...@yahoo.com:
 I agree with Marc. When things get complicated, it's a good idea to
 separate your tasks. It seems like your java class, which generates
 some of the data based on other data, is one issue, and your
 serialization is a separate issue. (I know it would be nice to just
 make that class serializable, but that may be where you make things
 complicated.)

 When I want to serialize my classes with protobufs, I create a
 separate protobuf object to just handle serialization. Then I create a
 utility class that transfers data between my protobuf object and my
 java class. Then it's easy to add a constructor to my java class that
 takes a protobuf object and defers the work to the utility class.

 When I transfer data using protobufs, I don't convert to the protobuf
 format until the last possible moment before sending, and I
 immediately convert to the java class on receiving data. That lets me
 put my protobuf objects behind a facade, so I don't need to know the
 serialization details.

 -- Miguel Muñoz


 On Jun 15, 7:07 am, gabor.dicso gabor.di...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I would like to be able to serialize primitive types platform-
 independently. I have hand-written Java data classes and I want to
 serialize their primitive fields using a cross-platform framework.
 These classes can not be generated, they must be written by hand,
 additional code is generated based upon them. Also, serializing the
 object as a whole isn't an option either, because the fields sometimes
 have to be processed before serializing their values. I have to
 serialize the fields separately. It must be made cross-platform
 because the values will be stored in a database and they may be read
 from other platforms. Creating wrapper PB-objects for each primitive
 type is an overhead I must avoid because the operation will be done
 very frequently and with large amounts of data.

 I found that Protocol Buffers addresses cross-platform serialization
 of objects, but I could not figure out how to use it as a
 serialization framework for primitive types (without having
 created .proto descriptors). Is it possible to use PB as a cross-
 platform serializer-deserializer framework for primitive types?
 Thanks,

 Gabor Dicso

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[protobuf] Re: Issue 296 in protobuf: Deploy protobuf-java 2.4.1 JAR to Maven Repository

2011-06-16 Thread protobuf


Comment #9 on issue 296 by jhuxh...@googlemail.com: Deploy protobuf-java  
2.4.1 JAR to Maven Repository

http://code.google.com/p/protobuf/issues/detail?id=296

Any news on this issue?

The currently available version in the central maven repository is 2.4.0a.
I couldn't find any information about this specific release, i.e. the 0a,  
in http://protobuf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/CHANGES.txt


This version is still Java6-only, right?

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[protobuf] Maps in protobuf / 2

2011-06-16 Thread Marco Mistroni
HI all
 sorry i hijacked a previous thread ..
Is it possibel to define Maps in protobuff?

i have some serverside code which returns a MapString, Double, and i was
wondering if there was a way in protobuf
to define a Map

could anyone help ?

w/kindest regards
 marco

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Re: [protobuf] Maps in protobuf / 2

2011-06-16 Thread Alok Singh
Haven't found a direct way to create a map, but, we use the following to 
serialize map like data structures.

-
message KeyValue{
required string key = 1;
required string value = 2;
}

message Map {
repeated KeyValue items = 1;
}

message Foo {
required string id = 1;
optional Map map = 2;
}


Alok

On 06/16/2011 01:26 PM, Marco Mistroni wrote:

HI all
 sorry i hijacked a previous thread ..
Is it possibel to define Maps in protobuff?

i have some serverside code which returns a MapString, Double, and i 
was wondering if there was a way in protobuf

to define a Map

could anyone help ?

w/kindest regards
 marco
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