Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: hash.__properties is undefined
prototype_update_helper.js is the script shipped along side Prototype in the same website for upgrading purpose. It's supposed to show errors where there's a deprecated API used. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:32 AM, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380)... As there's no prototype_update_helper.js in Prototype itself, you'll need to show the actual code being used. If it's using the internals of the `Hash` object (instead of its published API), I'm afraid you'll have to rewrite it to use the API instead (as internals can change from a dot rev to a dot rev without notice). FWIW, -- T.J. Crowder Independent Software Engineer tj / crowder software / com www / crowder software / com On Nov 7, 8:10 am, Iravanchi iravan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380) that hash.__properties is undefined. When I set a breakpoint it works fine. I have no idea what can be the problem. When I try it with prototype version 1.6.0.3, there's no such errors, and the update helper reports a few issues in my code. But it doesn't work with 1.6.1. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comprototype-scriptaculous%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
[Proto-Scripty] Re: hash.__properties is undefined
It's very possible the updater wasn't updated to support updating to v1.6.1 as few people actually use it. Sorry about that. Best, Tobie On Nov 8, 11:24 am, Hamed Iravanchi ha...@iravanchi.com wrote: prototype_update_helper.js is the script shipped along side Prototype in the same website for upgrading purpose. It's supposed to show errors where there's a deprecated API used. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:32 AM, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380)... As there's no prototype_update_helper.js in Prototype itself, you'll need to show the actual code being used. If it's using the internals of the `Hash` object (instead of its published API), I'm afraid you'll have to rewrite it to use the API instead (as internals can change from a dot rev to a dot rev without notice). FWIW, -- T.J. Crowder Independent Software Engineer tj / crowder software / com www / crowder software / com On Nov 7, 8:10 am, Iravanchi iravan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380) that hash.__properties is undefined. When I set a breakpoint it works fine. I have no idea what can be the problem. When I try it with prototype version 1.6.0.3, there's no such errors, and the update helper reports a few issues in my code. But it doesn't work with 1.6.1. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comprototype-scriptaculou s%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: hash.__properties is undefined
That's interesting! Because I find it very useful. I was so happy to find out that there's such an updater script. I guess if I fix my script to use 1.6.0.3, it will be compatible with 1.6.1 too. Am I right? Or which is the latest version that the updater works with? My main issue for upgrading to 1.6 is that I have to use get and set methods on Hash, instead of direct access. And I have a large javascript code base, with lots of usages of bind, event scheduling, closures, and things that make error reporting and tracking hard. It's very hard to find all usages of direct Hash property access. Do you think there's an easier way of fixing these? Thanks, -Hamed On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Tobie Langel tobie.lan...@gmail.com wrote: It's very possible the updater wasn't updated to support updating to v1.6.1 as few people actually use it. Sorry about that. Best, Tobie On Nov 8, 11:24 am, Hamed Iravanchi ha...@iravanchi.com wrote: prototype_update_helper.js is the script shipped along side Prototype in the same website for upgrading purpose. It's supposed to show errors where there's a deprecated API used. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:32 AM, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380)... As there's no prototype_update_helper.js in Prototype itself, you'll need to show the actual code being used. If it's using the internals of the `Hash` object (instead of its published API), I'm afraid you'll have to rewrite it to use the API instead (as internals can change from a dot rev to a dot rev without notice). FWIW, -- T.J. Crowder Independent Software Engineer tj / crowder software / com www / crowder software / com On Nov 7, 8:10 am, Iravanchi iravan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380) that hash.__properties is undefined. When I set a breakpoint it works fine. I have no idea what can be the problem. When I try it with prototype version 1.6.0.3, there's no such errors, and the update helper reports a few issues in my code. But it doesn't work with 1.6.1. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comprototype-scriptaculous%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comprototype-scriptaculou s%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com s%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comprototype-scriptaculous%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
RE: [Proto-Scripty] Re: hash.__properties is undefined
Just an update on this, 500 man hours $15,000, perhaps more if the task falls to our most senior developers. And that doesn't include the opportunity cost assuming we would be working on billable projects for the same amount of time, in that case, double or triple that number. Please Prototype team, respect our time. From: Brian Marquis [mailto:br...@quotepro.com] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:33 AM To: 'prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [Proto-Scripty] Re: hash.__properties is undefined I also have an issue with the Hash class. We have about 20 live websites, each one with a large amount of javascript code which will break if I upgrade to 1.6.x. In our case, we were not using internal properties of the Hash object, but rather the published API, which said, among other things, that the merge command would modify the existing Hash instance, instead of creating a new one. It will take us about 500 man hours to make the necessary modifications to our code to be using the latest version of Prototype. It presents me with a difficult task to justify the effort to management. That being said, I'd really like to ask that the Prototype team make every effort to avoid making fundamental changes in the behavior of core objects in the framework. As developers, we rely on our libraries to provide a consistent, backwards-compatible base for us to build our applications with. I understand that sometimes it will be necessary to change core objects, in that case, I would much prefer to receive deprecation warnings, at least for a few point releases, so that we as developers can upgrade and then slowly modify our code to remove them and still stay current on the library for security patches, bug fixes and so on. From: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com [mailto:prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hamed Iravanchi Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:17 AM To: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: hash.__properties is undefined That's interesting! Because I find it very useful. I was so happy to find out that there's such an updater script. I guess if I fix my script to use 1.6.0.3, it will be compatible with 1.6.1 too. Am I right? Or which is the latest version that the updater works with? My main issue for upgrading to 1.6 is that I have to use get and set methods on Hash, instead of direct access. And I have a large javascript code base, with lots of usages of bind, event scheduling, closures, and things that make error reporting and tracking hard. It's very hard to find all usages of direct Hash property access. Do you think there's an easier way of fixing these? Thanks, -Hamed On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Tobie Langel tobie.lan...@gmail.com wrote: It's very possible the updater wasn't updated to support updating to v1.6.1 as few people actually use it. Sorry about that. Best, Tobie On Nov 8, 11:24 am, Hamed Iravanchi ha...@iravanchi.com wrote: prototype_update_helper.js is the script shipped along side Prototype in the same website for upgrading purpose. It's supposed to show errors where there's a deprecated API used. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:32 AM, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380)... As there's no prototype_update_helper.js in Prototype itself, you'll need to show the actual code being used. If it's using the internals of the `Hash` object (instead of its published API), I'm afraid you'll have to rewrite it to use the API instead (as internals can change from a dot rev to a dot rev without notice). FWIW, -- T.J. Crowder Independent Software Engineer tj / crowder software / com www / crowder software / com On Nov 7, 8:10 am, Iravanchi iravan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380) that hash.__properties is undefined. When I set a breakpoint it works fine. I have no idea what can be the problem. When I try it with prototype version 1.6.0.3, there's no such errors, and the update helper reports a few issues in my code. But it doesn't work with 1.6.1. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us http://script.aculo.us/ group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:prototype-scriptaculous%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com prototype-scriptaculou s%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:s%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
[Proto-Scripty] Re: hash.__properties is undefined
Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380)... As there's no prototype_update_helper.js in Prototype itself, you'll need to show the actual code being used. If it's using the internals of the `Hash` object (instead of its published API), I'm afraid you'll have to rewrite it to use the API instead (as internals can change from a dot rev to a dot rev without notice). FWIW, -- T.J. Crowder Independent Software Engineer tj / crowder software / com www / crowder software / com On Nov 7, 8:10 am, Iravanchi iravan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm upgrading from 1.5 to 1.6.1, and Firefox reports an error in prototype_update_helper.js (line 380) that hash.__properties is undefined. When I set a breakpoint it works fine. I have no idea what can be the problem. When I try it with prototype version 1.6.0.3, there's no such errors, and the update helper reports a few issues in my code. But it doesn't work with 1.6.1. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptacul...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
