Re: bcf2000 with PT

[Rui Vilarinho]

Cool, glad that at least we achieve some kind of progress.
Ha, Agree, the shift usually means selection, right?!
Let's read some more, who knows, maybe we find some trick to jump between 
locate points.
Regards, Rui Vilarinho 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Kent 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:10 AM
  Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT


  Thanks for the tips.  I tried it on sends and 
it works.  I knew about the arming of tracks, but not selecting.  I’m surprised 
they wouldn’t have just used shift alone with the encoders.  II It would be 
nice to be able to move through locate points.  It would be great to be able to 
control plugins, especially with that flotools implementation.
  Gord

  From: Rui Vilarinho 
  Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 11:55 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT

  Not tested yet, but it goes anyway some stuff I found about the BCF2000 
controller functions.


  We can adjust track pan values; the "Store" button toggles the encoders 
between L/R for stereo track panning, while the 4 "Encoder Group" buttons under 
the screen determine the track send levels. It's possible to adjust with the 
encoders (Send A, B, C or D).



  We can record-enable tracks by pressing the corresponding track encoders, 
and/or select them by holding Shift (the "Edit" button) and pressing the 
encoders. The Encoder Groups control the send levels of a track. E.g. We set up 
the reverb sends on Send A of every track, press the first Encoder Group button 
and the encoders now control the level of Send A, and the LED rings will show 
the level. If there is no send on a track, the LED's wont light up. We can do 
this for the first four sends (A-D) of each track by using the 4 Encoder Group 
buttons. So, yeah, we can push down on the rotary dials, lol! The record 
enabled is a huge help.



  Concerning plugin's; Curious that if we open up plugins in pro tools now 
there is a red box around some of the switches and dials that was not there 
before started using the controller. That looks like pro tools showing which 
dials, faders and switches can be controlled by the bcf2000.



  Well, it goes a diagram that shows the control mapping for the BCF2000 in 
Baby HUI emulation mode:
  http://www.behringerdownload.de/BCF2...tion_modes.pdf

  We can pretty much just use the template above to see the button layout and 
look at the manual below, for the baby hui controller to see what every single 
function does in the bcf2000 and how to do it. There is no mention of plugin 
control in the manual though, too bad...
  http://www.mackie.com/pdf/BabyHUI_UG.pdf



  Didnt find stuff concerning moving to locate points.

  I’m pretty much quoting, bringing the experience  of guys with good vision, 
anyway hope this helps. Let us know how you go, 

  Rui Vilarinho 


- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Kent 
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT


The inability to work with plugins is due 
to a limitation in the baby hui protycol.  I want to know how to access aux 
sends and arm tracks for recording.  I would think there would be some sort of 
channel strip moe that would let you control a number of parameters on a single 
track or bus.  It should also be possible to move to locate points.  
Gord

From: Rui Vilarinho 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:38 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT

Hi Gord and Brian,
Indeed I use BCF 2000, but I can only confirm the same feedback. Until now 
I didnt manage to work with it within plugin controls.
Yeah, concerning controling stereo panning, perhaps dividing it  to two 
mono tracks?!
Take care,
Rui Vilarinho 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Howerton 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:19 AM
  Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT

  Would be interested in this as well. 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Gordon Kent  wrote:


Is anybody using the behringer bcf2000 with 
pro tools?  I have it working somewhat.   The faders, mute and solo buttons 
work, as well as the transport buttons.  Is there any documentation around that 
explains how to get at other functions.  Also, panning really doesn’t work as 
it should because PT displays two pan controls for tracks and the bcf2000 only 
seems to access one of them.  A search doesn’t seem to yield results for any 
printed docs, just some youtube videos and such.
Gord
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Re: bcf2000 with PT

[Gordon Kent]

Thanks for the tips.  I tried it on sends and 
it works.  I knew about the arming of tracks, but not selecting.  I’m surprised 
they wouldn’t have just used shift alone with the encoders.  II It would be 
nice to be able to move through locate points.  It would be great to be able to 
control plugins, especially with that flotools implementation.
Gord

From: Rui Vilarinho 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 11:55 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT

Not tested yet, but it goes anyway some stuff I found about the BCF2000 
controller functions.


We can adjust track pan values; the "Store" button toggles the encoders between 
L/R for stereo track panning, while the 4 "Encoder Group" buttons under the 
screen determine the track send levels. It's possible to adjust with the 
encoders (Send A, B, C or D).



We can record-enable tracks by pressing the corresponding track encoders, 
and/or select them by holding Shift (the "Edit" button) and pressing the 
encoders. The Encoder Groups control the send levels of a track. E.g. We set up 
the reverb sends on Send A of every track, press the first Encoder Group button 
and the encoders now control the level of Send A, and the LED rings will show 
the level. If there is no send on a track, the LED's wont light up. We can do 
this for the first four sends (A-D) of each track by using the 4 Encoder Group 
buttons. So, yeah, we can push down on the rotary dials, lol! The record 
enabled is a huge help.



Concerning plugin's; Curious that if we open up plugins in pro tools now there 
is a red box around some of the switches and dials that was not there before 
started using the controller. That looks like pro tools showing which dials, 
faders and switches can be controlled by the bcf2000.



Well, it goes a diagram that shows the control mapping for the BCF2000 in Baby 
HUI emulation mode:
http://www.behringerdownload.de/BCF2...tion_modes.pdf

We can pretty much just use the template above to see the button layout and 
look at the manual below, for the baby hui controller to see what every single 
function does in the bcf2000 and how to do it. There is no mention of plugin 
control in the manual though, too bad...
http://www.mackie.com/pdf/BabyHUI_UG.pdf



Didnt find stuff concerning moving to locate points.

I’m pretty much quoting, bringing the experience  of guys with good vision, 
anyway hope this helps. Let us know how you go, 

Rui Vilarinho 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Kent 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:22 PM
  Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT


  The inability to work with plugins is due to 
a limitation in the baby hui protycol.  I want to know how to access aux sends 
and arm tracks for recording.  I would think there would be some sort of 
channel strip moe that would let you control a number of parameters on a single 
track or bus.  It should also be possible to move to locate points.  
  Gord

  From: Rui Vilarinho 
  Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:38 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT

  Hi Gord and Brian,
  Indeed I use BCF 2000, but I can only confirm the same feedback. Until now I 
didnt manage to work with it within plugin controls.
  Yeah, concerning controling stereo panning, perhaps dividing it  to two mono 
tracks?!
  Take care,
  Rui Vilarinho 


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Howerton 
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: bcf2000 with PT

Would be interested in this as well. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 12, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Gordon Kent  wrote:


  Is anybody using the behringer bcf2000 with 
pro tools?  I have it working somewhat.   The faders, mute and solo buttons 
work, as well as the transport buttons.  Is there any documentation around that 
explains how to get at other functions.  Also, panning really doesn’t work as 
it should because PT displays two pan controls for tracks and the bcf2000 only 
seems to access one of them.  A search doesn’t seem to yield results for any 
printed docs, just some youtube videos and such.
  Gord
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Re: Is MIDI-Mag still around?

[Slau Halatyn]

Yep, forwarded the other links for starters. Cheers.

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Chris Smart  wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau. well, hopefully you can pass on the links. (grin)
> 
> At 01:03 PM 11/13/2016, you wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> Thanks. I don't know this person. I was just contacted as a result of my 
>> post on the Avid blog regarding Pro Tools. In fact, it was a friend of this 
>> guy who reached out to me so I'm not so invested in it. Knowing that he's 
>> more of a PC guy and not terribly up on technology, I'm just pointing him in 
>> a starting direction.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> > On Nov 13, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Chris Smart  wrote:
>> >
>> > yes, although, and this is just my opinion, the signal to noise ratio 
>> > isn't the best over there. Just yesterday, the list devolved into 
>> > politically-motivated posts. I suppose it's still a good place to check 
>> > out, if your friend is getting into playing with audio more as a hobby.
>> >
>> > Sonar is pretty much dead, especially for people just getting into this 
>> > today. For that reason, I recommend the following two solutions and their 
>> > related resources.
>> >
>> > I'd suggest your friend check out either Reaper
>> > www.reaper.fm
>> > with Osara
>> > https://github.com/nvaccess/osara
>> > and folks at the Reapers without Peepers mailing list
>> > http://bluegrasspals.com/mailman/listinfo/rwp
>> > can help get that up and running.
>> >
>> > Or, if your friend has Jaws, Samplitude
>> > http://www.magix.com/ca/samplitude/
>> > with Samplitude Access
>> > http://accessibilitytraining.co.uk/samplitude/samplitude.html
>> > with the VIPAudio mailing list being a place for all things Samplitude:
>> > http://www.freelists.org/list/vipaudioaccess
>> >
>> > the Reaper+Osara folks may have TeamTalk channels and/or Roger groups 
>> > going as well.
>> >
>> > The Samplitude folks have a Roger group now.
>> >
>> > Both Reaper with Osara and Samplitude with Samplitude Access are robust 
>> > solutions that work with the latest versions of these two DAW's. We can 
>> > now do things like object/event-based editing and manipulation of 
>> > automation curves after the fact with both of these.
>> >
>> > Reaper is virtually-free and so is Osara. Pair that with NVDA and you can 
>> > certainly try it all out and see if the workflow in Reaper works for you.
>> >
>> > Samplitude can be tried for a full month, and the Samplitude Access 
>> > solution is also free.
>> >
>> > I'm already invested in Jaws, plus I need Jaws and extensive Hotspot 
>> > Clicker support to run things like Superior Drummer, Melodyne Single Track 
>> > and the TT Dynamic Range Meter. For that reason, plus just liking the 
>> > environment and the sound of the audio, I've gone with Samplitude.
>> >
>> > Although Reaper is not for me, but it's perfect for others, and I would 
>> > certainly recommend giving it a try. There's no cost involved.
>> >
>> > For those who still haven't contributed to funding the finishing of Osara, 
>> > especially porting Osara to the Mac, please consider donating a few 
>> > dollars to this campaign.
>> > https://www.gofundme.com/2nbes8s
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > At 08:15 AM 11/13/2016, you wrote:
>> >> A guy contacted me inquiring about PC-based solutions for a blind 
>> >> musician. I wanted to point him toward MIDI-Mag. Is it still around?
>> >> Slau
>> >>
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>> > 
>> > "There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats." 
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