2 questions about Pro tools that confuse me to no end.

2013-08-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Well i still haven't come off the ground when it comes to Pro tools, but i have 
a couple of different questions to ask, and i hope the answers don't add up to 
my current confusion.
The first thing is: I have a M-Audio Projectmix as a surface for the Pro tools 
application. How do i let Protools know that it should record sounds that come 
from the inputs of the control surface? If i choose input path for a given 
track, i only have the computers built in microphones and line in to choose 
from. What if anything do i need to select to make the interfaces inputs be 
seen by Pro tools, or is it not possible?
Second question i have is kinda rettorical but it confused me so that i stopped 
preparing for a recording just because i didn't understand this: Why do you 
send say the reverb return track out via the sends to delay and chorus? Does 
anyone really want chorus or delay on a reverb? I saw this in one of the 
templates, and got totally confused.
/Krister

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Re: 2 questions about Pro tools that confuse me to no end.

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Norman
See answers imbedded below:

On 19 Aug 2013, at 12:48, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

 …

 The first thing is: I have a M-Audio Projectmix as a surface for the Pro 
 tools application. How do i let Protools know that it should record sounds 
 that come from the inputs of the control surface? If i choose input path for 
 a given track, i only have the computers built in microphones and line in to 
 choose from. What if anything do i need to select to make the interfaces 
 inputs be seen by Pro tools, or is it not possible?

Go into the setup menu, and go to Playback engine.

In there the first control is a list of all the audio devices on your system. 
Choose Project Mix Multi Channel from there.

If you want the faders to work, go to the Setup menu again, and go to 
Periferals. Select the MIDI controlers tab, by pressing command 3 or whatever 
it's page number is. Then, in the first column, select HUI, then select the 
Project mix control port, and set it for 8 channels.

 Second question i have is kinda rettorical but it confused me so that i 
 stopped preparing for a recording just because i didn't understand this: Why 
 do you send say the reverb return track out via the sends to delay and 
 chorus? Does anyone really want chorus or delay on a reverb? I saw this in 
 one of the templates, and got totally confused.

OK, a little bit on sends…

Imagine I am your clean vocal track. I am singing, and you think, hey, he 
sounds boring, add some reverb. Now, you are my reverb unit. So I'll sing at 
you, and you'll replicate what I sing, as well as adding the reverb. Now, when 
we sing together, people hear my clean voice, as well as your doing the reverb. 
If we'd put reverb directly onto the track, that would be the same as me 
whispering what I want sung in your ear, then you reproducing it - you'll hear 
none of the original signal, and all the reverb type things.

Also, it's good practise to use sends because if for example, you want reverb, 
and delay, and some chorus on your vocals, then you can do it without the nasty 
interactions which can occur with loads of effects.

Of course, you might want reverb on your delay, then chorus on the whole thing, 
and that's fine if you want it. Basically, try and play around with some of the 
different methods of doing things, and see which you like the sound of.

A little tip for you too, if you have say a keyboard, and you want to bring it 
into Pro Tools, and play along with the track a little. Putting this keyboard 
onto an Auxiliary track means you can hear it while the track plays, then, when 
you want to record, just send the output of that aux track to another track for 
recording.

I hope this hasn't served to just confuse you any more. Honestly, just play 
around and see what you get. You might hate the results, but, don't forget, if 
you don't know how to make the sounds you dislike, you don't know how to avoid 
them either.

Have fun, and keep at it.



 /Krister
 
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Re: 2 questions about Pro tools that confuse me to no end.

2013-08-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi and thanks for the answer. I'll have to try setting up things correctly 
regarding the Projectmix. Let me see if i can get one thing clear though, You 
say that if i have a keyboard for example that i want to play along to other 
tracks with, i should put that on an aux-track, is this because you don't need 
to arm an aux track? Sorry if the questions sound daft, i'm trying to get a 
grip on all this.
/Krister

19 aug 2013 kl. 15:26 skrev Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com:

 See answers imbedded below:
 
 On 19 Aug 2013, at 12:48, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 …
 
 The first thing is: I have a M-Audio Projectmix as a surface for the Pro 
 tools application. How do i let Protools know that it should record sounds 
 that come from the inputs of the control surface? If i choose input path for 
 a given track, i only have the computers built in microphones and line in to 
 choose from. What if anything do i need to select to make the interfaces 
 inputs be seen by Pro tools, or is it not possible?
 
 Go into the setup menu, and go to Playback engine.
 
 In there the first control is a list of all the audio devices on your system. 
 Choose Project Mix Multi Channel from there.
 
 If you want the faders to work, go to the Setup menu again, and go to 
 Periferals. Select the MIDI controlers tab, by pressing command 3 or whatever 
 it's page number is. Then, in the first column, select HUI, then select the 
 Project mix control port, and set it for 8 channels.
 
 Second question i have is kinda rettorical but it confused me so that i 
 stopped preparing for a recording just because i didn't understand this: Why 
 do you send say the reverb return track out via the sends to delay and 
 chorus? Does anyone really want chorus or delay on a reverb? I saw this in 
 one of the templates, and got totally confused.
 
 OK, a little bit on sends…
 
 Imagine I am your clean vocal track. I am singing, and you think, hey, he 
 sounds boring, add some reverb. Now, you are my reverb unit. So I'll sing at 
 you, and you'll replicate what I sing, as well as adding the reverb. Now, 
 when we sing together, people hear my clean voice, as well as your doing the 
 reverb. If we'd put reverb directly onto the track, that would be the same as 
 me whispering what I want sung in your ear, then you reproducing it - you'll 
 hear none of the original signal, and all the reverb type things.
 
 Also, it's good practise to use sends because if for example, you want 
 reverb, and delay, and some chorus on your vocals, then you can do it without 
 the nasty interactions which can occur with loads of effects.
 
 Of course, you might want reverb on your delay, then chorus on the whole 
 thing, and that's fine if you want it. Basically, try and play around with 
 some of the different methods of doing things, and see which you like the 
 sound of.
 
 A little tip for you too, if you have say a keyboard, and you want to bring 
 it into Pro Tools, and play along with the track a little. Putting this 
 keyboard onto an Auxiliary track means you can hear it while the track plays, 
 then, when you want to record, just send the output of that aux track to 
 another track for recording.
 
 I hope this hasn't served to just confuse you any more. Honestly, just play 
 around and see what you get. You might hate the results, but, don't forget, 
 if you don't know how to make the sounds you dislike, you don't know how to 
 avoid them either.
 
 Have fun, and keep at it.
 
 
 
 /Krister
 
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Re: 2 questions about Pro tools that confuse me to no end.

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Norman
Yes, that's exactly right. 

Furthermore, you can hear what's coming in on an aux channel while the project 
is playing. This is not true of an audio track. 

HTH, 

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:30, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

 Hi and thanks for the answer. I'll have to try setting up things correctly 
 regarding the Projectmix. Let me see if i can get one thing clear though, You 
 say that if i have a keyboard for example that i want to play along to other 
 tracks with, i should put that on an aux-track, is this because you don't 
 need to arm an aux track? Sorry if the questions sound daft, i'm trying to 
 get a grip on all this.
 /Krister
 
 19 aug 2013 kl. 15:26 skrev Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com:
 
 See answers imbedded below:
 
 On 19 Aug 2013, at 12:48, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 …
 
 The first thing is: I have a M-Audio Projectmix as a surface for the Pro 
 tools application. How do i let Protools know that it should record sounds 
 that come from the inputs of the control surface? If i choose input path 
 for a given track, i only have the computers built in microphones and line 
 in to choose from. What if anything do i need to select to make the 
 interfaces inputs be seen by Pro tools, or is it not possible?
 
 Go into the setup menu, and go to Playback engine.
 
 In there the first control is a list of all the audio devices on your 
 system. Choose Project Mix Multi Channel from there.
 
 If you want the faders to work, go to the Setup menu again, and go to 
 Periferals. Select the MIDI controlers tab, by pressing command 3 or 
 whatever it's page number is. Then, in the first column, select HUI, then 
 select the Project mix control port, and set it for 8 channels.
 
 Second question i have is kinda rettorical but it confused me so that i 
 stopped preparing for a recording just because i didn't understand this: 
 Why do you send say the reverb return track out via the sends to delay and 
 chorus? Does anyone really want chorus or delay on a reverb? I saw this in 
 one of the templates, and got totally confused.
 
 OK, a little bit on sends…
 
 Imagine I am your clean vocal track. I am singing, and you think, hey, he 
 sounds boring, add some reverb. Now, you are my reverb unit. So I'll sing at 
 you, and you'll replicate what I sing, as well as adding the reverb. Now, 
 when we sing together, people hear my clean voice, as well as your doing the 
 reverb. If we'd put reverb directly onto the track, that would be the same 
 as me whispering what I want sung in your ear, then you reproducing it - 
 you'll hear none of the original signal, and all the reverb type things.
 
 Also, it's good practise to use sends because if for example, you want 
 reverb, and delay, and some chorus on your vocals, then you can do it 
 without the nasty interactions which can occur with loads of effects.
 
 Of course, you might want reverb on your delay, then chorus on the whole 
 thing, and that's fine if you want it. Basically, try and play around with 
 some of the different methods of doing things, and see which you like the 
 sound of.
 
 A little tip for you too, if you have say a keyboard, and you want to bring 
 it into Pro Tools, and play along with the track a little. Putting this 
 keyboard onto an Auxiliary track means you can hear it while the track 
 plays, then, when you want to record, just send the output of that aux track 
 to another track for recording.
 
 I hope this hasn't served to just confuse you any more. Honestly, just play 
 around and see what you get. You might hate the results, but, don't forget, 
 if you don't know how to make the sounds you dislike, you don't know how to 
 avoid them either.
 
 Have fun, and keep at it.
 
 
 
 /Krister
 
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Re: 2 questions about Pro tools that confuse me to no end.

2013-08-19 Thread Matt Diemert
If you created an audio track, and you just want to play along without 
recording, you can arm the track, and switch the monitoring to auto option K 
this will allow you to hit play and hear what you play along.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Yes, that's exactly right. 
 
 Furthermore, you can hear what's coming in on an aux channel while the 
 project is playing. This is not true of an audio track. 
 
 HTH, 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:30, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi and thanks for the answer. I'll have to try setting up things correctly 
 regarding the Projectmix. Let me see if i can get one thing clear though, 
 You say that if i have a keyboard for example that i want to play along to 
 other tracks with, i should put that on an aux-track, is this because you 
 don't need to arm an aux track? Sorry if the questions sound daft, i'm 
 trying to get a grip on all this.
 /Krister
 
 19 aug 2013 kl. 15:26 skrev Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com:
 
 See answers imbedded below:
 
 On 19 Aug 2013, at 12:48, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 …
 
 The first thing is: I have a M-Audio Projectmix as a surface for the Pro 
 tools application. How do i let Protools know that it should record sounds 
 that come from the inputs of the control surface? If i choose input path 
 for a given track, i only have the computers built in microphones and line 
 in to choose from. What if anything do i need to select to make the 
 interfaces inputs be seen by Pro tools, or is it not possible?
 
 Go into the setup menu, and go to Playback engine.
 
 In there the first control is a list of all the audio devices on your 
 system. Choose Project Mix Multi Channel from there.
 
 If you want the faders to work, go to the Setup menu again, and go to 
 Periferals. Select the MIDI controlers tab, by pressing command 3 or 
 whatever it's page number is. Then, in the first column, select HUI, then 
 select the Project mix control port, and set it for 8 channels.
 
 Second question i have is kinda rettorical but it confused me so that i 
 stopped preparing for a recording just because i didn't understand this: 
 Why do you send say the reverb return track out via the sends to delay and 
 chorus? Does anyone really want chorus or delay on a reverb? I saw this in 
 one of the templates, and got totally confused.
 
 OK, a little bit on sends…
 
 Imagine I am your clean vocal track. I am singing, and you think, hey, he 
 sounds boring, add some reverb. Now, you are my reverb unit. So I'll sing 
 at you, and you'll replicate what I sing, as well as adding the reverb. 
 Now, when we sing together, people hear my clean voice, as well as your 
 doing the reverb. If we'd put reverb directly onto the track, that would be 
 the same as me whispering what I want sung in your ear, then you 
 reproducing it - you'll hear none of the original signal, and all the 
 reverb type things.
 
 Also, it's good practise to use sends because if for example, you want 
 reverb, and delay, and some chorus on your vocals, then you can do it 
 without the nasty interactions which can occur with loads of effects.
 
 Of course, you might want reverb on your delay, then chorus on the whole 
 thing, and that's fine if you want it. Basically, try and play around with 
 some of the different methods of doing things, and see which you like the 
 sound of.
 
 A little tip for you too, if you have say a keyboard, and you want to bring 
 it into Pro Tools, and play along with the track a little. Putting this 
 keyboard onto an Auxiliary track means you can hear it while the track 
 plays, then, when you want to record, just send the output of that aux 
 track to another track for recording.
 
 I hope this hasn't served to just confuse you any more. Honestly, just play 
 around and see what you get. You might hate the results, but, don't forget, 
 if you don't know how to make the sounds you dislike, you don't know how to 
 avoid them either.
 
 Have fun, and keep at it.
 
 
 
 /Krister
 
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Re: 2 questions about Pro tools that confuse me to no end.

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Norman
I didn't know that, thank you very much. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:52, Matt Diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you created an audio track, and you just want to play along without 
 recording, you can arm the track, and switch the monitoring to auto option K 
 this will allow you to hit play and hear what you play along.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes, that's exactly right. 
 
 Furthermore, you can hear what's coming in on an aux channel while the 
 project is playing. This is not true of an audio track. 
 
 HTH, 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:30, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi and thanks for the answer. I'll have to try setting up things correctly 
 regarding the Projectmix. Let me see if i can get one thing clear though, 
 You say that if i have a keyboard for example that i want to play along to 
 other tracks with, i should put that on an aux-track, is this because you 
 don't need to arm an aux track? Sorry if the questions sound daft, i'm 
 trying to get a grip on all this.
 /Krister
 
 19 aug 2013 kl. 15:26 skrev Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com:
 
 See answers imbedded below:
 
 On 19 Aug 2013, at 12:48, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 …
 
 The first thing is: I have a M-Audio Projectmix as a surface for the Pro 
 tools application. How do i let Protools know that it should record 
 sounds that come from the inputs of the control surface? If i choose 
 input path for a given track, i only have the computers built in 
 microphones and line in to choose from. What if anything do i need to 
 select to make the interfaces inputs be seen by Pro tools, or is it not 
 possible?
 
 Go into the setup menu, and go to Playback engine.
 
 In there the first control is a list of all the audio devices on your 
 system. Choose Project Mix Multi Channel from there.
 
 If you want the faders to work, go to the Setup menu again, and go to 
 Periferals. Select the MIDI controlers tab, by pressing command 3 or 
 whatever it's page number is. Then, in the first column, select HUI, then 
 select the Project mix control port, and set it for 8 channels.
 
 Second question i have is kinda rettorical but it confused me so that i 
 stopped preparing for a recording just because i didn't understand this: 
 Why do you send say the reverb return track out via the sends to delay 
 and chorus? Does anyone really want chorus or delay on a reverb? I saw 
 this in one of the templates, and got totally confused.
 
 OK, a little bit on sends…
 
 Imagine I am your clean vocal track. I am singing, and you think, hey, he 
 sounds boring, add some reverb. Now, you are my reverb unit. So I'll sing 
 at you, and you'll replicate what I sing, as well as adding the reverb. 
 Now, when we sing together, people hear my clean voice, as well as your 
 doing the reverb. If we'd put reverb directly onto the track, that would 
 be the same as me whispering what I want sung in your ear, then you 
 reproducing it - you'll hear none of the original signal, and all the 
 reverb type things.
 
 Also, it's good practise to use sends because if for example, you want 
 reverb, and delay, and some chorus on your vocals, then you can do it 
 without the nasty interactions which can occur with loads of effects.
 
 Of course, you might want reverb on your delay, then chorus on the whole 
 thing, and that's fine if you want it. Basically, try and play around with 
 some of the different methods of doing things, and see which you like the 
 sound of.
 
 A little tip for you too, if you have say a keyboard, and you want to 
 bring it into Pro Tools, and play along with the track a little. Putting 
 this keyboard onto an Auxiliary track means you can hear it while the 
 track plays, then, when you want to record, just send the output of that 
 aux track to another track for recording.
 
 I hope this hasn't served to just confuse you any more. Honestly, just 
 play around and see what you get. You might hate the results, but, don't 
 forget, if you don't know how to make the sounds you dislike, you don't 
 know how to avoid them either.
 
 Have fun, and keep at it.
 
 
 
 /Krister
 
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