Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-10 Thread Kevin Reeves
I’m late in seeing this thread, but I found an even easier way to do this.
Set your nudge to 10 ms if spoken word, or about 20 ticks if in bars beats.
Tab to the region you want to crossfade. Press minus once so your a bit before 
the clip boundary. Press command Shift Plus twice. This will start creating a 
selection from the curser. By pressing twice, you are extending the selection 
across the 2 clips. Then, Perform the crossfade.
I have no control surface, and I can clean up tracks very quickly with this 
method.

Hope this helps.

Kevin


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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-10 Thread David Eagle
Likewise, thanks Kevin.

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 Thanks for that tip Kevin, I will archive it.
 
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 I’m late in seeing this thread, but I found an even easier way to do this.
 Set your nudge to 10 ms if spoken word, or about 20 ticks if in bars beats.
 Tab to the region you want to crossfade. Press minus once so your a bit 
 before the clip boundary. Press command Shift Plus twice. This will start 
 creating a selection from the curser. By pressing twice, you are extending 
 the selection across the 2 clips. Then, Perform the crossfade.
 I have no control surface, and I can clean up tracks very quickly with this 
 method.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Kevin
 
 
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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-05 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi David,
What I do for back round noise is to keep a track of just background noise and 
use it be hind the narration. :)
HTH
Chuck
YMMV

On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:35 PM, David Eagle wrote:

 OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems 
 to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. 
 Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off.
 
 
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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-05 Thread David Eagle
Thanks slau. I understand that all perfectly. Yes, I am using shuffle mode 
poppa. Thanks for your help.

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 On 5 Dec 2014, at 04:06, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Dave, this isn't a perfect solution, but have you tried to use shuffle 
 mode \rather than grid mode? Shuffle mode allows the deleted portion of audio 
 to be filled by sliding the remaining audio together. I have went through an 
 hour long voice over session rather quickly using this, taking out a lot of 
 Hmms, uhs, and other useless gibber.
 
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 Of David Eagle
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:08 PM
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 Subject: Blending clips when I paste
 
 Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip 
 over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like 
 to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the 
 two clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the 
 other. I assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is 
 dimmed.
 
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RE: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-05 Thread Poppa Bear
I do like that Chuck, funny though. 

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Subject: Re: Blending clips when I paste

Hi David,
What I do for back round noise is to keep a track of just background noise and 
use it be hind the narration. :)
HTH
Chuck
YMMV

On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:35 PM, David Eagle wrote:

 OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems 
 to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. 
 Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off.
 
 
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Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-04 Thread David Eagle
Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip 
over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like 
to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the two 
clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the other. I 
assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is dimmed.

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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-04 Thread Slau Halatyn
David,

You're not going to get very far trying to learn Pro Tools by searching on 
google. There's no substitute for reading the manual. You can't combine regions 
that way. If you want it to play at the same time, create a new track and paste 
it in where you want it. Boom.

Slau

On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:07 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip 
 over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like 
 to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the 
 two clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the 
 other. I assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is 
 dimmed.
 
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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-04 Thread David Eagle
Thanks Slau. A bit of a shame. I have a piece of audio that I want to make very 
precise edits on. Some of the edits won’t work if I just do a crude delete in 
shuffle mode. In Sonar I would delete the portion of audio I didn’t want, then 
cut the bit after that portion, and paste it over the top of the end of the 
previous section, and the two bits of audio would seamlessly crossfade, and 
you’d never know they had been edited. This has been a technique I’ve used for 
years, and assumed it was a staple part of editing speech. Say you have a piece 
of audio that says: “I am trying to … er … learn … ProTools.” I don’t want the 
‘ers.’ Now I could just delete them, except this sentence has been recorded in 
the street and there is the sound of traffic, and so you’d hear the shift in 
the ambient sound if I just did a crude delete, and it wouldn’t sound natural. 
It would be an obvious bad edit. So you need to blend the two clips and 
crossfade them. So you delete an, er, and then take the portion of audio after 
it, cut it, and paste it over the top of the last second or so of the previous 
bit, giving you a lovely crossfade and a seamless edit. To do the equivalent of 
this in PT, it seems as if I’ll have to create a bus, because I’m unfortunately 
going to be working with multiple tracks, since I can’t do this track merge 
technique, and I need the same EQ and compression settings to be in play for 
both tracks. Then I’ll have to delete the piece of audio I don’t want, cut the 
bit after it, paste it onto a new track, apply a fade out on the first track, 
then apply a fade in on the second track. As you can see, that’s quite a few 
more steps.

I don’t mind if this is what I need to do, but I thought I’d explain my 
reasoning for wanting to do it in case you or anyone else can think of a 
quicker way of doing this.

Oh dear, I am demanding aren’t I? I’m really getting the hang of ProTools, and 
I have read the manual cursorily, and I’ve listened to the PT with speech 
tutorials, but I’ve used Sonar for about ten years, and I was lightning fast on 
the thing. So I’m just trying to migrate my knowledge over to PT.

Sorry for all the questions, and thank you again for your patients and help. 


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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-04 Thread Slau Halatyn
Oh, gosh, no, David. You just crossfade. Select from a little bit before the 
cut to a little bit after the cut and crossfade. Hopefully, someone else can 
chime in to explain.

On Dec 4, 2014, at 7:20 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Thanks Slau. A bit of a shame. I have a piece of audio that I want to make 
 very precise edits on. Some of the edits won’t work if I just do a crude 
 delete in shuffle mode. In Sonar I would delete the portion of audio I didn’t 
 want, then cut the bit after that portion, and paste it over the top of the 
 end of the previous section, and the two bits of audio would seamlessly 
 crossfade, and you’d never know they had been edited. This has been a 
 technique I’ve used for years, and assumed it was a staple part of editing 
 speech. Say you have a piece of audio that says: “I am trying to … er … learn 
 … ProTools.” I don’t want the ‘ers.’ Now I could just delete them, except 
 this sentence has been recorded in the street and there is the sound of 
 traffic, and so you’d hear the shift in the ambient sound if I just did a 
 crude delete, and it wouldn’t sound natural. It would be an obvious bad edit. 
 So you need to blend the two clips and crossfade them. So you delete an, er, 
 and then take the portion of audio after it, cut it, and paste it over the 
 top of the last second or so of the previous bit, giving you a lovely 
 crossfade and a seamless edit. To do the equivalent of this in PT, it seems 
 as if I’ll have to create a bus, because I’m unfortunately going to be 
 working with multiple tracks, since I can’t do this track merge technique, 
 and I need the same EQ and compression settings to be in play for both 
 tracks. Then I’ll have to delete the piece of audio I don’t want, cut the bit 
 after it, paste it onto a new track, apply a fade out on the first track, 
 then apply a fade in on the second track. As you can see, that’s quite a few 
 more steps.
 
 I don’t mind if this is what I need to do, but I thought I’d explain my 
 reasoning for wanting to do it in case you or anyone else can think of a 
 quicker way of doing this.
 
 Oh dear, I am demanding aren’t I? I’m really getting the hang of ProTools, 
 and I have read the manual cursorily, and I’ve listened to the PT with speech 
 tutorials, but I’ve used Sonar for about ten years, and I was lightning fast 
 on the thing. So I’m just trying to migrate my knowledge over to PT.
 
 Sorry for all the questions, and thank you again for your patients and help. 
 
 
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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-04 Thread David Eagle
OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems to 
work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. 
Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off.


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Re: Blending clips when I paste

2014-12-04 Thread Slau Halatyn
No problem, David. Thing is, doing crossfades without a control surface is 
fairly tedious and involves a bunch of keystrokes. You can do a bulk crossfade 
operation but the results of the bulk crossfade might be fine for 90% of the 
points but maybe not all of them. It's better to do them individually in 
general. If it's spoken word, depending on the edits, you can probably get away 
with 20 ms crossfades.

Without explaining a lot in detail (others can fill in the gaps), set your 
nudge value to 10 milliseconds. Tab to the edit. Use the minus key to move back 
10 milliseconds. Press slash on the num pad three times and, assuming you're in 
Minutes:seconds, type 0.0.020. You'll have made a 20 millisecond selection 
across the edit. If you're in Commands Focus mode, press f or press Command-f 
to bring up the fades dialog and simply press enter.

HTH,

Slau

On Dec 4, 2014, at 8:35 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote:

 OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems 
 to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. 
 Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off.
 
 
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