Re: More automation question.

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi John,
Yep I mentioned Clip Gain in my response but the problem with that particular 
approach is that, if you want to change the value by several decibels, there's 
an abrupt audible change at the beginning and end of the selection. It's true 
that, in a given track, that change might not be detectable at all but, yes, it 
certainly is an option.
Slau

> On Sep 4, 2017, at 7:24 AM, John André Lium-Netland  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Another feature that is great for such situations, is to make a selection and 
> change the gain for that portion of the track by holding down control-shift 
> and use up/down arrow keys. the amount of change for each arrow key press is 
> set in the preferences. If you change the overall level of the fader, you 
> will still see the same amount of relative change in the track volume, since 
> the actual gain of that part of the track is changed. It really works great! 
> :)
> 
> Best,
> John André
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Re: More automation question.

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi John,

Just to clarify what your talking about is called "Clip Gain". :)
PT defaults to ".5Db"
HTH
Chuck
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On Sep 4, 2017, at 7:24 AM, John André Lium-Netland wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Another feature that is great for such situations, is to make a selection and 
> change the gain for that portion of the track by holding down control-shift 
> and use up/down arrow keys. the amount of change for each arrow key press is 
> set in the preferences. If you change the overall level of the fader, you 
> will still see the same amount of relative change in the track volume, since 
> the actual gain of that part of the track is changed. It really works great! 
> :)
> 
> Best,
> John André
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Re: More automation question.

[John André Lium-Netland]

Hi,

Another feature that is great for such situations, is to make a selection and 
change the gain for that portion of the track by holding down control-shift and 
use up/down arrow keys. the amount of change for each arrow key press is set in 
the preferences. If you change the overall level of the fader, you will still 
see the same amount of relative change in the track volume, since the actual 
gain of that part of the track is changed. It really works great! :)

Best,
John André

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Re: More automation question.

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi JP,
In HD, instead of write or touch mode, there's a trim mode that adjusts 
everything according to the delta value of the fader (or the difference between 
0 dB and the new fader position). In other words, let's say your actual 
automation had a fader at minus 10 dB. When you get into trim mode and adjust 
the fader to be three decibels lower, the new fader automation would be at 
minus 13 decibels and any subsequent fader moves would be proportionately three 
decibels lower than the original values. That's it in a nutshell.
Slau

> On Sep 3, 2017, at 10:35 AM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso  
> wrote:
> 
> Amazing, Slau.
> It worked greatly.
> Just for know, how works the trim automation in HD?
> 
> JP
>> On 3 Sep 2017, at 10:55, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> I would say the best thing to do is to simply redo the automation in the 
>> section you want. Make a selection of the range, turn on pre and post roll 
>> and set the automation mode to Write. Make a pass and see if you're happy 
>> with it. If not, set it to write mode again and repeat until you're 
>> satisfied.
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Slau.
>>> Thanks for your explanation.
>>> 
>>> Do you know other approach to achieve that? Really jump to a Hd version are 
>>> not in the horizon. I tried with some fades but the ressult is too far that 
>>> I need.
>>> 
>>> JP.
 On 2 Sep 2017, at 21:08, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
 
 JP,
 This mode is called Trim mode and I think it's only available in HD. All 
 values are proportionally raised or lowered by whatever amount the fader 
 is moved in Trim Mode. There might be a way to visually select several 
 volume break points but I know of no way to do that without visually 
 editing within the timeline.
 Slau
 
> On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I've been wondering this for quite some time now...I'm not even sure if 
> it's possible. Let's say in the middle of mixing a track, I want to fade 
> some selection down at a certain point, and then fade them back up. I'd 
> normally do this with volume automation. However, let's say a week later 
> I want to change the overall volume of that track, but keep the 
> automation. Is this possible? Whenever I try to change the volume on a 
> track where automation is written, it slides the fader back to its 
> original position. I guess I'm wondering if there's a way to 
> proportionaly keep the automation in relation to the volume changes. Any 
> help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
> JP
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Re: More automation question.

[Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso]

Amazing, Slau.
It worked greatly.
Just for know, how works the trim automation in HD?

JP
> On 3 Sep 2017, at 10:55, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> I would say the best thing to do is to simply redo the automation in the 
> section you want. Make a selection of the range, turn on pre and post roll 
> and set the automation mode to Write. Make a pass and see if you're happy 
> with it. If not, set it to write mode again and repeat until you're satisfied.
> Hope that helps.
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Slau.
>> Thanks for your explanation.
>> 
>> Do you know other approach to achieve that? Really jump to a Hd version are 
>> not in the horizon. I tried with some fades but the ressult is too far that 
>> I need.
>> 
>> JP.
>>> On 2 Sep 2017, at 21:08, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> JP,
>>> This mode is called Trim mode and I think it's only available in HD. All 
>>> values are proportionally raised or lowered by whatever amount the fader is 
>>> moved in Trim Mode. There might be a way to visually select several volume 
>>> break points but I know of no way to do that without visually editing 
>>> within the timeline.
>>> Slau
>>> 
 On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso 
  wrote:
 
 Hello all.
 
 I've been wondering this for quite some time now...I'm not even sure if 
 it's possible. Let's say in the middle of mixing a track, I want to fade 
 some selection down at a certain point, and then fade them back up. I'd 
 normally do this with volume automation. However, let's say a week later I 
 want to change the overall volume of that track, but keep the automation. 
 Is this possible? Whenever I try to change the volume on a track where 
 automation is written, it slides the fader back to its original position. 
 I guess I'm wondering if there's a way to proportionaly keep the 
 automation in relation to the volume changes. Any help would be greatly 
 appreciated. Thanks
 JP
 
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Re: More automation question.

[Slau Halatyn]

I would say the best thing to do is to simply redo the automation in the 
section you want. Make a selection of the range, turn on pre and post roll and 
set the automation mode to Write. Make a pass and see if you're happy with it. 
If not, set it to write mode again and repeat until you're satisfied.
Hope that helps.

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Slau.
> Thanks for your explanation.
> 
> Do you know other approach to achieve that? Really jump to a Hd version are 
> not in the horizon. I tried with some fades but the ressult is too far that I 
> need.
> 
> JP.
>> On 2 Sep 2017, at 21:08, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
>> 
>> JP,
>> This mode is called Trim mode and I think it's only available in HD. All 
>> values are proportionally raised or lowered by whatever amount the fader is 
>> moved in Trim Mode. There might be a way to visually select several volume 
>> break points but I know of no way to do that without visually editing within 
>> the timeline.
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> 
>>> I've been wondering this for quite some time now...I'm not even sure if 
>>> it's possible. Let's say in the middle of mixing a track, I want to fade 
>>> some selection down at a certain point, and then fade them back up. I'd 
>>> normally do this with volume automation. However, let's say a week later I 
>>> want to change the overall volume of that track, but keep the automation. 
>>> Is this possible? Whenever I try to change the volume on a track where 
>>> automation is written, it slides the fader back to its original position. I 
>>> guess I'm wondering if there's a way to proportionaly keep the automation 
>>> in relation to the volume changes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
>>> Thanks
>>> JP
>>> 
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Re: More automation question.

[Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso]

Hi, Slau.
Thanks for your explanation.

Do you know other approach to achieve that? Really jump to a Hd version are not 
in the horizon. I tried with some fades but the ressult is too far that I need.

JP.
> On 2 Sep 2017, at 21:08, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> JP,
> This mode is called Trim mode and I think it's only available in HD. All 
> values are proportionally raised or lowered by whatever amount the fader is 
> moved in Trim Mode. There might be a way to visually select several volume 
> break points but I know of no way to do that without visually editing within 
> the timeline.
> Slau
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all.
>> 
>> I've been wondering this for quite some time now...I'm not even sure if it's 
>> possible. Let's say in the middle of mixing a track, I want to fade some 
>> selection down at a certain point, and then fade them back up. I'd normally 
>> do this with volume automation. However, let's say a week later I want to 
>> change the overall volume of that track, but keep the automation. Is this 
>> possible? Whenever I try to change the volume on a track where automation is 
>> written, it slides the fader back to its original position. I guess I'm 
>> wondering if there's a way to proportionaly keep the automation in relation 
>> to the volume changes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>> JP
>> 
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Re: More automation question.

[Slau Halatyn]

JP,
This mode is called Trim mode and I think it's only available in HD. All values 
are proportionally raised or lowered by whatever amount the fader is moved in 
Trim Mode. There might be a way to visually select several volume break points 
but I know of no way to do that without visually editing within the timeline.
Slau

> On Sep 2, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I've been wondering this for quite some time now...I'm not even sure if it's 
> possible. Let's say in the middle of mixing a track, I want to fade some 
> selection down at a certain point, and then fade them back up. I'd normally 
> do this with volume automation. However, let's say a week later I want to 
> change the overall volume of that track, but keep the automation. Is this 
> possible? Whenever I try to change the volume on a track where automation is 
> written, it slides the fader back to its original position. I guess I'm 
> wondering if there's a way to proportionaly keep the automation in relation 
> to the volume changes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
> JP
> 
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More automation question.

[Juan Pablo Culasso Alonso]

Hello all.

 I've been wondering this for quite some time now...I'm not even sure if it's 
possible. Let's say in the middle of mixing a track, I want to fade some 
selection down at a certain point, and then fade them back up. I'd normally do 
this with volume automation. However, let's say a week later I want to change 
the overall volume of that track, but keep the automation. Is this possible? 
Whenever I try to change the volume on a track where automation is written, it 
slides the fader back to its original position. I guess I'm wondering if 
there's a way to proportionaly keep the automation in relation to the volume 
changes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
JP

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