Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Slau Halatyn]

Glad you got it working. In the Mix or Edit window, Use VO+End and move 
backwards until you see the element that says "Show/Hide Tracks List." The View 
menu also has submenus for showing and hiding various elements.
HTH,
Slau

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 7:02 PM, Christian <christia...@runbox.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> OK, so I have finally got it working! I did a reinstall of the system and 
> with Filevault enabled as well and now I could enable that checkbox.
> However, I have a question. How do I ge to the tracks table and have it 
> shown? If using the VoiceOver cursor I cannot seem to find it.
> Many thanks,
> Christian
> 
> 
> On 2018-02-16 at 12:05 Martin \(Punky\) Sopart wrote:
> 
>> Hello!
>> 
>> Also check the system setting "FileVault".
>> When active VoiceOver is not able to run during system log on.
>> Maybe there is some interference with the apple script, too.
>> 
>> Good luck! / Martin
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Chi Kim
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:54 AM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script
>>> 
>>> If uncheck and checking it doesn't fix the issue, reset all Voiceover
>>> preferences by:
>>> 
>>> Open up voiceover utility
>>> 
>>> go to menu bar with vo+m
>>> 
>>> go to file menu
>>> 
>>> Select reset all voiceover preference.
>>> 
>>> Go back to the general category and see if it lets you check allow
>>> VoiceOVer to be controlled with AppleScript
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/13/2018 8:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>> This was a rare issue for a couple of people and it seemed to exist in
>> High
>>> Sierra but, if you uncheck and recheck the checkbox, supposedly it sorts
>> itself
>>> out. Perhaps it's worth a try.
>>>> Slau
>>>> 
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RE: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Martin (Punky) Sopart]

Hello!

Also check the system setting "FileVault".
When active VoiceOver is not able to run during system log on.
Maybe there is some interference with the apple script, too.

Good luck! / Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Chi Kim
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:54 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script
> 
> If uncheck and checking it doesn't fix the issue, reset all Voiceover
> preferences by:
> 
> Open up voiceover utility
> 
> go to menu bar with vo+m
> 
> go to file menu
> 
> Select reset all voiceover preference.
> 
> Go back to the general category and see if it lets you check allow
> VoiceOVer to be controlled with AppleScript
> 
> 
> Chi
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/13/2018 8:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> > This was a rare issue for a couple of people and it seemed to exist in High
> Sierra but, if you uncheck and recheck the checkbox, supposedly it sorts 
> itself
> out. Perhaps it's worth a try.
> > Slau
> >
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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Christian]

Hi,

So, I just got a reply from the Apple Accessibility and they have been able to 
duplicate the problem. However, they do not know when it will be fixed. So, 
maybe I will have to try something else. Are you running an earlier MacOS 
yourself? Many thanks!

> 15 feb. 2018 kl. 00:04 skrev TheOreoMonster :
> 
> I saw another thread somewhere about VO preferences being changed or  not 
> sticking when screen curtain is on. Try turning screen curtain off if its 
> on.. 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Chi Kim  wrote:
>> 
>> HI Christian,
>> 
>> 
>> Create another admin user under users and groups from system preference, 
>> login to the new user, run VoiceOver, and see if it'll let you check it.
>> 
>> If it does, that means something got messed up with current user setting.
>> 
>> You could also Send an email to apple accessibility, and see what they say.
>> 
>> Keep us posted.
>> 
>> 
>> Chi
>>> On 2/14/2018 1:51 PM, Christian wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> OK, so I tried this but still no luck. Running OS High Sierra. This is 
>>> really annoying.
>>> I don’t like to reinstall everything and  startover.
>>> Any other tips?
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Christian
>>> 
 14 feb. 2018 kl. 08:54 skrev Chi Kim :
 
 If uncheck and checking it doesn't fix the issue, reset all Voiceover
 preferences by:
 
 Open up voiceover utility
 

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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[TheOreoMonster]

I saw another thread somewhere about VO preferences being changed or  not 
sticking when screen curtain is on. Try turning screen curtain off if its on. 
 

> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Chi Kim  wrote:
> 
> HI Christian,
> 
> 
> Create another admin user under users and groups from system preference, 
> login to the new user, run VoiceOver, and see if it'll let you check it.
> 
> If it does, that means something got messed up with current user setting.
> 
> You could also Send an email to apple accessibility, and see what they say.
> 
> Keep us posted.
> 
> 
> Chi
> On 2/14/2018 1:51 PM, Christian wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> OK, so I tried this but still no luck. Running OS High Sierra. This is 
>> really annoying.
>> I don’t like to reinstall everything and  startover.
>> Any other tips?
>> Many thanks,
>> Christian
>> 
>>> 14 feb. 2018 kl. 08:54 skrev Chi Kim :
>>> 
>>> If uncheck and checking it doesn't fix the issue, reset all Voiceover
>>> preferences by:
>>> 
>>> Open up voiceover utility
>>> 
>>> go to menu bar with vo+m
>>> 
>>> go to file menu
>>> 
>>> Select reset all voiceover preference.
>>> 
>>> Go back to the general category and see if it lets you check allow
>>> VoiceOVer to be controlled with AppleScript
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/13/2018 8:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 This was a rare issue for a couple of people and it seemed to exist in 
 High Sierra but, if you uncheck and recheck the checkbox, supposedly it 
 sorts itself out. Perhaps it's worth a try.
 Slau
 
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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Chi Kim]

HI Christian,


Create another admin user under users and groups from system preference, 
login to the new user, run VoiceOver, and see if it'll let you check it.

If it does, that means something got messed up with current user setting.

You could also Send an email to apple accessibility, and see what they say.

Keep us posted.


Chi
On 2/14/2018 1:51 PM, Christian wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> OK, so I tried this but still no luck. Running OS High Sierra. This is really 
> annoying.
> I don’t like to reinstall everything and  startover.
> Any other tips?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
>
>> 14 feb. 2018 kl. 08:54 skrev Chi Kim :
>>
>> If uncheck and checking it doesn't fix the issue, reset all Voiceover
>> preferences by:
>>
>> Open up voiceover utility
>>
>> go to menu bar with vo+m
>>
>> go to file menu
>>
>> Select reset all voiceover preference.
>>
>> Go back to the general category and see if it lets you check allow
>> VoiceOVer to be controlled with AppleScript
>>
>>
>> Chi
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/13/2018 8:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>> This was a rare issue for a couple of people and it seemed to exist in High 
>>> Sierra but, if you uncheck and recheck the checkbox, supposedly it sorts 
>>> itself out. Perhaps it's worth a try.
>>> Slau
>>>
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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Christian]

Hi all,

OK, so I tried this but still no luck. Running OS High Sierra. This is really 
annoying.
I don’t like to reinstall everything and  startover.
Any other tips?
Many thanks,
Christian

> 14 feb. 2018 kl. 08:54 skrev Chi Kim :
> 
> If uncheck and checking it doesn't fix the issue, reset all Voiceover 
> preferences by:
> 
> Open up voiceover utility
> 
> go to menu bar with vo+m
> 
> go to file menu
> 
> Select reset all voiceover preference.
> 
> Go back to the general category and see if it lets you check allow 
> VoiceOVer to be controlled with AppleScript
> 
> 
> Chi
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/13/2018 8:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> This was a rare issue for a couple of people and it seemed to exist in High 
>> Sierra but, if you uncheck and recheck the checkbox, supposedly it sorts 
>> itself out. Perhaps it's worth a try.
>> Slau
>> 
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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Chi Kim]

If uncheck and checking it doesn't fix the issue, reset all Voiceover 
preferences by:

Open up voiceover utility

go to menu bar with vo+m

go to file menu

Select reset all voiceover preference.

Go back to the general category and see if it lets you check allow 
VoiceOVer to be controlled with AppleScript


Chi



On 2/13/2018 8:33 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> This was a rare issue for a couple of people and it seemed to exist in High 
> Sierra but, if you uncheck and recheck the checkbox, supposedly it sorts 
> itself out. Perhaps it's worth a try.
> Slau
>

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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Slau Halatyn]

This was a rare issue for a couple of people and it seemed to exist in High 
Sierra but, if you uncheck and recheck the checkbox, supposedly it sorts itself 
out. Perhaps it's worth a try.
Slau

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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[accessibleprotools]

Hmm, I’ve never seen that before. Maybe try restarting VoiceOver by turning it 
off and back on again. Note that restarting machine does not accomplish this. 
You could also try reinstalling the OS from recovery partition if you want to 
to see if that fixes anything. Not sure if anyone else has other suggestions, 
I’ll play around with it and see if I can reproduce the bug

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Christian  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Running the latest Mac OS with all updates installed.
> 
> Thanks
> Christian
> 
>> 13 feb. 2018 kl. 22:50 skrev Brian Casey :
>> 
>> I have the same issue on a machine running Yosemite, have not solved it, I 
>> think updating to a newer OS version is the only option 
>> 
>> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
>> 
>>> On 13/02/2018, at 9:41 PM, Christian  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> OK, so I have decided to have a go with Flotools and Protools, but I am 
>>> having a problem.
>>> If I open up VoiceOver Utility and heck the box and enter my password it 
>>> stays checked for a couple of seconds and then goes unchecked again. Any 
>>> thoughts, how to get around this?
>>> 
>>> Best regards and thanks,
>>> Christian
>>> 
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>> 
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>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> OK, so I have decided to have a go with Flotools and Protools, but I am 
>>> having a problem.
>>> If I open up VoiceOver Utility and heck the box and enter my password it 
>>> stays checked for a couple of seconds and then goes unchecked again. Any 
>>> thoughts, how to get around this?
>>> 
>>> Best regards and thanks,
>>> Christian
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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Christian]

Hi,

Running the latest Mac OS with all updates installed.

Thanks
Christian

> 13 feb. 2018 kl. 22:50 skrev Brian Casey :
> 
> I have the same issue on a machine running Yosemite, have not solved it, I 
> think updating to a newer OS version is the only option 
> 
> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
> 
>> On 13/02/2018, at 9:41 PM, Christian  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> OK, so I have decided to have a go with Flotools and Protools, but I am 
>> having a problem.
>> If I open up VoiceOver Utility and heck the box and enter my password it 
>> stays checked for a couple of seconds and then goes unchecked again. Any 
>> thoughts, how to get around this?
>> 
>> Best regards and thanks,
>> Christian
>> 
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> I have the same issue on a machine running Yosemite, have not solved it, I 
> think updating to a newer OS version is the only option 
> 
> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
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>> On 13/02/2018, at 9:41 PM, Christian  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> OK, so I have decided to have a go with Flotools and Protools, but I am 
>> having a problem.
>> If I open up VoiceOver Utility and heck the box and enter my password it 
>> stays checked for a couple of seconds and then goes unchecked again. Any 
>> thoughts, how to get around this?
>> 
>> Best regards and thanks,
>> Christian
>> 
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Re: Cannot enable VoiceOver to be controlled with Apple script

[Brian Casey]

I have the same issue on a machine running Yosemite, have not solved it, I 
think updating to a newer OS version is the only option 

Sent from my smart-ish phone!

> On 13/02/2018, at 9:41 PM, Christian  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> OK, so I have decided to have a go with Flotools and Protools, but I am 
> having a problem.
> If I open up VoiceOver Utility and heck the box and enter my password it 
> stays checked for a couple of seconds and then goes unchecked again. Any 
> thoughts, how to get around this?
> 
> Best regards and thanks,
> Christian
> 
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