Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app

2021-05-28 Thread Martin (Punky) Sopart 
Hello Steve!

It depends on the app.

* A Pro Tools session will open with all plug-ins deactivated.

* Music/iTunes lets you select the music library.

* In my case the app called "Meta" provides an additional menu item for 
debugging and other stuff.

Best! / Martin


On May 28, 2021, at 11:57 PM, Steve Sparrow  wrote:

out of interest, what does holding the shift key while launching an app 
actually do. 
Steve


> On 29 May 2021, at 12:40 am, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
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> Fantastic, thanks for the update!
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>> Hello Slau!
>> 
>> My false...
>> You are so right. It has always been working but I expected something 
>> different.
>> 
>> An app developer asked me to hold the shift key while launching his app to 
>> get to a debug menu.
>> I thought that that debug menu will appear before the app opens.
>> Now I saw that the debug menu appears inside the app as an additional item 
>> in the apps main menu.
>> 
>> Thanks and best! / Martin
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:19 PM
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>> Subject: Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app
>> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> I believe that, whichever key combination you use to launch an application, 
>> holding the Shift key immediately after letting go of the previous key 
>> combination will suffice. I've used modifiers that way when launching apps 
>> and it seems fine. If you have no luck whatsoever, you might try Flo Mouse 
>> and use Shift+` (Accent) in a double-tap while continuing to hold down the 
>> Shift modifier. That is the equivalent of Shift-double-clicking and holding 
>> the Shift key down. Hope that helps,
>> Slau
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>> On May 27, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart > <mailto:m...@cakewalker.de> > wrote:
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>> Hello all!
>> 
>> Is there a way to hold the shift key while launching an app when using 
>> VoiceOver?
>> I tried Shift+Command+DownArrow,
>> Shift-Click via the mouse macros,
>> Holding Shift and double pressing routing key on my braille display.
>> No touchpad available.
>> 
>> Thanks and best! / Martin
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Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app

2021-05-28 Thread Steve Sparrow 
out of interest, what does holding the shift key while launching an app 
actually do.
Steve


On 29 May 2021, at 12:40 am, Slau Halatyn 
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On May 28, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart 
mailto:m...@cakewalker.de>> wrote:

Hello Slau!

My false...
You are so right. It has always been working but I expected something different.

An app developer asked me to hold the shift key while launching his app to get 
to a debug menu.
I thought that that debug menu will appear before the app opens.
Now I saw that the debug menu appears inside the app as an additional item in 
the apps main menu.

Thanks and best! / Martin
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Subject: Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app

Hi Martin,
I believe that, whichever key combination you use to launch an application, 
holding the Shift key immediately after letting go of the previous key 
combination will suffice. I've used modifiers that way when launching apps and 
it seems fine. If you have no luck whatsoever, you might try Flo Mouse and use 
Shift+` (Accent) in a double-tap while continuing to hold down the Shift 
modifier. That is the equivalent of Shift-double-clicking and holding the Shift 
key down. Hope that helps,
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mailto:m...@cakewalker.de> <mailto:m...@cakewalker.de> > 
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Hello all!

Is there a way to hold the shift key while launching an app when using 
VoiceOver?
I tried Shift+Command+DownArrow,
Shift-Click via the mouse macros,
Holding Shift and double pressing routing key on my braille display.
No touchpad available.

Thanks and best! / Martin


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Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app

2021-05-28 Thread Slau Halatyn 
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> On May 28, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart  wrote:
> 
> Hello Slau!
> 
> My false...
> You are so right. It has always been working but I expected something 
> different.
> 
> An app developer asked me to hold the shift key while launching his app to 
> get to a debug menu.
> I thought that that debug menu will appear before the app opens.
> Now I saw that the debug menu appears inside the app as an additional item in 
> the apps main menu.
> 
> Thanks and best! / Martin
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Slau 
> Halatyn
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:19 PM
> To: PTAccess List 
> Subject: Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app
> 
> Hi Martin,
> I believe that, whichever key combination you use to launch an application, 
> holding the Shift key immediately after letting go of the previous key 
> combination will suffice. I've used modifiers that way when launching apps 
> and it seems fine. If you have no luck whatsoever, you might try Flo Mouse 
> and use Shift+` (Accent) in a double-tap while continuing to hold down the 
> Shift modifier. That is the equivalent of Shift-double-clicking and holding 
> the Shift key down. Hope that helps,
> Slau
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>   On May 27, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart  <mailto:m...@cakewalker.de> > wrote:
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>   Hello all!
>   
>   Is there a way to hold the shift key while launching an app when using 
> VoiceOver?
>   I tried Shift+Command+DownArrow,
>   Shift-Click via the mouse macros,
>   Holding Shift and double pressing routing key on my braille display.
>   No touchpad available.
>   
>   Thanks and best! / Martin
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RE: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app

2021-05-28 Thread Martin (Punky) Sopart 
Hello Slau!

My false...
You are so right. It has always been working but I expected something different.

An app developer asked me to hold the shift key while launching his app to get 
to a debug menu.
I thought that that debug menu will appear before the app opens.
Now I saw that the debug menu appears inside the app as an additional item in 
the apps main menu.

Thanks and best! / Martin
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Subject: Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app

Hi Martin,
I believe that, whichever key combination you use to launch an application, 
holding the Shift key immediately after letting go of the previous key 
combination will suffice. I've used modifiers that way when launching apps and 
it seems fine. If you have no luck whatsoever, you might try Flo Mouse and use 
Shift+` (Accent) in a double-tap while continuing to hold down the Shift 
modifier. That is the equivalent of Shift-double-clicking and holding the Shift 
key down. Hope that helps,
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On May 27, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart mailto:m...@cakewalker.de> > wrote:

Hello all!

Is there a way to hold the shift key while launching an app when using 
VoiceOver?
I tried Shift+Command+DownArrow,
Shift-Click via the mouse macros,
Holding Shift and double pressing routing key on my braille display.
No touchpad available.

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Re: OT: Holding the shift key while launching an app

2021-05-27 Thread Slau Halatyn 
Hi Martin,
I believe that, whichever key combination you use to launch an application, 
holding the Shift key immediately after letting go of the previous key 
combination will suffice. I've used modifiers that way when launching apps and 
it seems fine. If you have no luck whatsoever, you might try Flo Mouse and use 
Shift+` (Accent) in a double-tap while continuing to hold down the Shift 
modifier. That is the equivalent of Shift-double-clicking and holding the Shift 
key down. Hope that helps,
Slau


 
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> Is there a way to hold the shift key while launching an app when using 
> VoiceOver?
> I tried Shift+Command+DownArrow,
> Shift-Click via the mouse macros,
> Holding Shift and double pressing routing key on my braille display.
> No touchpad available.
> 
> Thanks and best! / Martin
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