Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis
Frank, that means that PT in Windows will work with ZoomText? I have PT on a Mac and haven't had a chance to try this yet, but am curious about it, and whether they are fully compatible or if there are some conflicts of commands. Jake, your questions are great, but I'm also a beginner at investigating how well Voiceover works and what's lacking there that a control surface can provide. I'm a sighted professional engineer at a non-profit studio, where we've been working for years with visually-impaired or non-sighted users on Sonar with Jaws, and I'm now trying to work out the issues with ProTools, which is our main recording platform. We don't currently have a control surface but I'm also looking at the options for what we could use. thanks all, Tom On May 5, 1:19 pm, Frank Carmickle fr...@carmickle.com wrote: Hi Also, of course, you will only be able to use PT on windows with magnification. Speech and braille do not work at this time. HTH --FC On May 5, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi I can give you a answer on the pro tools on pc part. Pro tools was originally designed for mac, for a long time it only worked on mac. A couple of years ago they made it for pc and a lot of people even in mid sized project studios run it on pc with success but your real way to go would be pro tools on mac. If you don't have the money for a mac and already have the pc go for it, I can't say that it's worse on pc than on mac, the only time you'll really realise the difference is when running a lot of tracks at the same time or doing complicated mixes with a lot of plug ins etc. it will just be more stable on mac. Then if you want to go HD it is a complete different story, then pc is a definate no, no, pro tools HD will work on pc but I won't recommend it at all accept if you like crashing and hanging or just plainly stop working. I hope this helps you as I said if you have a mac rather run pro tools on the mac but if you have no other option pc will be fine. Jake wrote: Thanks for the quick response, how well does PT work in conjunction with zoom? Also please elaborate about the control surface, does it make PT measurably easier to operate for the Voice Over user? Thanks much for indulging a beginner and my much to simplistic questions. Jake - Original Message - From: soundog stiles@gmail.com To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:16 AM Subject: Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis A couple thoughts Jake The entry-level control surface is the Digi 003, with eight assignable faders and encoder knobs, plus some permanently assigned knobs and buttons. If you're doing smaller sessions this may be all you need. especially if you can make use of the illuminated display that tells you what the faders are currently controlling. I haven't tested Voiceover with this setup though to know what it will indicate about the hardware status. The more sophisticated control surfaces with a full fader panel are also a lot more expensive, and take up a lot more room. Generally these are for larger sessions, but it depends on whether you want to avoid the layered approach of the 003. As for ZoomText. on the Mac the Apple version is called Zoom, part of the same Accesibility panel where you find Voiceover, but it's not nearly what ZoomText provides. Kind of like Zoom plus Voiceover begins to approach ZoomText but... not quite. I'm still learning what's available and possible, and don't have PT installed on a PC to test it yet as we're pretty much a Mac house, but will let you know when I get to that. Tom On May 2, 9:19 pm, Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject implies I need a recommendation on a good entry level control surface to run with PT and Voice Over. I also have a general question as to does PT work with either ZoomText for the PC or the Mac equivalent. thanks much Jake
Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis
Hi Tom I can't say for sure that it works. I'm not sure if there is any one on the list that can confirm this. I have talked to a mag guru and he believes that it should be usable with the different mag options on windows. HTH --FC On May 7, 2011, at 1:50 PM, soundog wrote: Frank, that means that PT in Windows will work with ZoomText? I have PT on a Mac and haven't had a chance to try this yet, but am curious about it, and whether they are fully compatible or if there are some conflicts of commands. Jake, your questions are great, but I'm also a beginner at investigating how well Voiceover works and what's lacking there that a control surface can provide. I'm a sighted professional engineer at a non-profit studio, where we've been working for years with visually-impaired or non-sighted users on Sonar with Jaws, and I'm now trying to work out the issues with ProTools, which is our main recording platform. We don't currently have a control surface but I'm also looking at the options for what we could use. thanks all, Tom On May 5, 1:19 pm, Frank Carmickle fr...@carmickle.com wrote: Hi Also, of course, you will only be able to use PT on windows with magnification. Speech and braille do not work at this time. HTH --FC On May 5, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi I can give you a answer on the pro tools on pc part. Pro tools was originally designed for mac, for a long time it only worked on mac. A couple of years ago they made it for pc and a lot of people even in mid sized project studios run it on pc with success but your real way to go would be pro tools on mac. If you don't have the money for a mac and already have the pc go for it, I can't say that it's worse on pc than on mac, the only time you'll really realise the difference is when running a lot of tracks at the same time or doing complicated mixes with a lot of plug ins etc. it will just be more stable on mac. Then if you want to go HD it is a complete different story, then pc is a definate no, no, pro tools HD will work on pc but I won't recommend it at all accept if you like crashing and hanging or just plainly stop working. I hope this helps you as I said if you have a mac rather run pro tools on the mac but if you have no other option pc will be fine. Jake wrote: Thanks for the quick response, how well does PT work in conjunction with zoom? Also please elaborate about the control surface, does it make PT measurably easier to operate for the Voice Over user? Thanks much for indulging a beginner and my much to simplistic questions. Jake - Original Message - From: soundog stiles@gmail.com To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:16 AM Subject: Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis A couple thoughts Jake The entry-level control surface is the Digi 003, with eight assignable faders and encoder knobs, plus some permanently assigned knobs and buttons. If you're doing smaller sessions this may be all you need. especially if you can make use of the illuminated display that tells you what the faders are currently controlling. I haven't tested Voiceover with this setup though to know what it will indicate about the hardware status. The more sophisticated control surfaces with a full fader panel are also a lot more expensive, and take up a lot more room. Generally these are for larger sessions, but it depends on whether you want to avoid the layered approach of the 003. As for ZoomText. on the Mac the Apple version is called Zoom, part of the same Accesibility panel where you find Voiceover, but it's not nearly what ZoomText provides. Kind of like Zoom plus Voiceover begins to approach ZoomText but... not quite. I'm still learning what's available and possible, and don't have PT installed on a PC to test it yet as we're pretty much a Mac house, but will let you know when I get to that. Tom On May 2, 9:19 pm, Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject implies I need a recommendation on a good entry level control surface to run with PT and Voice Over. I also have a general question as to does PT work with either ZoomText for the PC or the Mac equivalent. thanks much Jake
Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis
Hi I can give you a answer on the pro tools on pc part. Pro tools was originally designed for mac, for a long time it only worked on mac. A couple of years ago they made it for pc and a lot of people even in mid sized project studios run it on pc with success but your real way to go would be pro tools on mac. If you don't have the money for a mac and already have the pc go for it, I can't say that it's worse on pc than on mac, the only time you'll really realise the difference is when running a lot of tracks at the same time or doing complicated mixes with a lot of plug ins etc. it will just be more stable on mac. Then if you want to go HD it is a complete different story, then pc is a definate no, no, pro tools HD will work on pc but I won't recommend it at all accept if you like crashing and hanging or just plainly stop working. I hope this helps you as I said if you have a mac rather run pro tools on the mac but if you have no other option pc will be fine. Jake wrote: Thanks for the quick response, how well does PT work in conjunction with zoom? Also please elaborate about the control surface, does it make PT measurably easier to operate for the Voice Over user? Thanks much for indulging a beginner and my much to simplistic questions. Jake - Original Message - From: soundog stiles@gmail.com To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:16 AM Subject: Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis A couple thoughts Jake The entry-level control surface is the Digi 003, with eight assignable faders and encoder knobs, plus some permanently assigned knobs and buttons. If you're doing smaller sessions this may be all you need. especially if you can make use of the illuminated display that tells you what the faders are currently controlling. I haven't tested Voiceover with this setup though to know what it will indicate about the hardware status. The more sophisticated control surfaces with a full fader panel are also a lot more expensive, and take up a lot more room. Generally these are for larger sessions, but it depends on whether you want to avoid the layered approach of the 003. As for ZoomText. on the Mac the Apple version is called Zoom, part of the same Accesibility panel where you find Voiceover, but it's not nearly what ZoomText provides. Kind of like Zoom plus Voiceover begins to approach ZoomText but... not quite. I'm still learning what's available and possible, and don't have PT installed on a PC to test it yet as we're pretty much a Mac house, but will let you know when I get to that. Tom On May 2, 9:19 pm, Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject implies I need a recommendation on a good entry level control surface to run with PT and Voice Over. I also have a general question as to does PT work with either ZoomText for the PC or the Mac equivalent. thanks much Jake
Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis
Hi Also, of course, you will only be able to use PT on windows with magnification. Speech and braille do not work at this time. HTH --FC On May 5, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Hi I can give you a answer on the pro tools on pc part. Pro tools was originally designed for mac, for a long time it only worked on mac. A couple of years ago they made it for pc and a lot of people even in mid sized project studios run it on pc with success but your real way to go would be pro tools on mac. If you don't have the money for a mac and already have the pc go for it, I can't say that it's worse on pc than on mac, the only time you'll really realise the difference is when running a lot of tracks at the same time or doing complicated mixes with a lot of plug ins etc. it will just be more stable on mac. Then if you want to go HD it is a complete different story, then pc is a definate no, no, pro tools HD will work on pc but I won't recommend it at all accept if you like crashing and hanging or just plainly stop working. I hope this helps you as I said if you have a mac rather run pro tools on the mac but if you have no other option pc will be fine. Jake wrote: Thanks for the quick response, how well does PT work in conjunction with zoom? Also please elaborate about the control surface, does it make PT measurably easier to operate for the Voice Over user? Thanks much for indulging a beginner and my much to simplistic questions. Jake - Original Message - From: soundog stiles@gmail.com To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:16 AM Subject: Re: need a recamendation on a control serfis A couple thoughts Jake The entry-level control surface is the Digi 003, with eight assignable faders and encoder knobs, plus some permanently assigned knobs and buttons. If you're doing smaller sessions this may be all you need. especially if you can make use of the illuminated display that tells you what the faders are currently controlling. I haven't tested Voiceover with this setup though to know what it will indicate about the hardware status. The more sophisticated control surfaces with a full fader panel are also a lot more expensive, and take up a lot more room. Generally these are for larger sessions, but it depends on whether you want to avoid the layered approach of the 003. As for ZoomText. on the Mac the Apple version is called Zoom, part of the same Accesibility panel where you find Voiceover, but it's not nearly what ZoomText provides. Kind of like Zoom plus Voiceover begins to approach ZoomText but... not quite. I'm still learning what's available and possible, and don't have PT installed on a PC to test it yet as we're pretty much a Mac house, but will let you know when I get to that. Tom On May 2, 9:19 pm, Jake 2001sherl...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject implies I need a recommendation on a good entry level control surface to run with PT and Voice Over. I also have a general question as to does PT work with either ZoomText for the PC or the Mac equivalent. thanks much Jake
