Re: [Puppet Users] Re: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "File[]"

2011-07-04 Thread vagn scott 

Because the name depends on other parameters in a non-trivial way.
But that's neither here nor there.  remeber the context:
We were talking about parser v compiler error reporting.

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On 07/04/2011 11:53 PM, Scott Smith wrote:
Why would you pass the output from inline_template as the title of a 
resource?


On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:03 PM, vagn scott > wrote:



   $foo = inline_template( ... )
   $baz = inline_template( ... )
   File[ "$foo$baz" ]



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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "File[]"

2011-07-04 Thread Scott Smith 
Why would you pass the output from inline_template as the title of a
resource?

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:03 PM, vagn scott  wrote:

>
>$foo = inline_template( ... )
>$baz = inline_template( ... )
>File[ "$foo$baz" ]
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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "File[]"

2011-07-04 Thread vagn scott 

On 07/04/2011 02:49 PM, Michael Halligan wrote:
Forgive my cluelessness, but why is it so difficult for Puppet to at 
least tell me what file this came from


OK, I'll take a crack at an answer.

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typical compiler versus parser problem.

If the parser saw this, it could stop immediately
and say , hey, look here!  This ain't right!

File[ "$foo" 

But, the parser sees this, which is perfectly OK.

File[ "$foo" ]

Much later, after all the files are read and the
details of syntax forgotten, it is finally evaluated
by the compiler as something not OK.

File[ ]

But, where is the error?  Is it that $foo was not set?
Or was $foo dependent on something else, far removed,
that failed to be set or evaluated?

What should the compiler say about this?

$foo = inline_template( ... )
$baz = inline_template( ... )
File[ "$foo$baz" ]


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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "File[]"

2011-07-04 Thread Peter Meier 
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On 07/04/2011 08:49 PM, Michael Halligan wrote:
> Forgive my cluelessness, but why is it so difficult for Puppet to at least
> tell me what file this came from like 90% of other errors I've encountered?

I don't think there is a particular reason. Did you look for bugreports
and/or submitted an error message improvement request?

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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "File[]"

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Halligan 
Forgive my cluelessness, but why is it so difficult for Puppet to at least
tell me what file this came from like 90% of other errors I've encountered?

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, vagn scott  wrote:

> On 07/02/2011 03:20 PM, Eric Sorenson wrote:
>
>> This is usually because somewhere you have a File resource whose name
>> is a variable, and the variable's undefined.
>>
> And a common reason for that to happen is that you've
> mistyped the variable name.  Your design could be just fine.
>
> This is a good reason to test early and often.  It reduces the
> search space to those files you recently touched.
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Re: [Puppet Users] Re: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "File[]"

2011-07-02 Thread vagn scott 

On 07/02/2011 03:20 PM, Eric Sorenson wrote:

This is usually because somewhere you have a File resource whose name
is a variable, and the variable's undefined.

And a common reason for that to happen is that you've
mistyped the variable name.  Your design could be just fine.

This is a good reason to test early and often.  It reduces the
search space to those files you recently touched.

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[Puppet Users] Re: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "File[]"

2011-07-02 Thread Eric Sorenson 
This is usually because somewhere you have a File resource whose name
is a variable, and the variable's undefined. So either:

package { "whatever" : ...  require => File["$somevariable"] }

- or -

file { "$somevariable":  .. .blah blah }

On Jul 1, 6:24 pm, Michael Halligan  wrote:
> I'm running Puppet 2.7.1 on the master as well as the agent and just
> received a new error which doesn't actually reference a module or a file, so
> I'm somewhat stuck as to how to debug this. Any pointers?
> The error is  err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not
> intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship
> target "File[]"

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