Re: parameterized controllers

2008-05-19 Thread Aaron R


I did something similar using the __before__  method

class CustomerController(BaseController):
 def __before__(self):
 if 'cust_id' in request.environ['pylons.routes_dict']:
  cust_id = request.environ['pylons.routes_dict']
['cust_id']
  c.customer=meta.Session.query(Customer).get(cust_id)
 else:
  c.customer = None

 def DoSomething(self, cust_id, id):
 .

 def DoMore(self, cust_id, id):
.


The routes_dict looks like this:

{'action': u'dostuff', 'controller': u'customert', 'id': u'123'}

Hopefully that works.

Cheers

Aaron
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Re: parameterized controllers

2008-05-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman

Previously Aaron R wrote:
 I did something similar using the __before__  method
 
 class CustomerController(BaseController):
  def __before__(self):
  if 'cust_id' in request.environ['pylons.routes_dict']:
   cust_id = request.environ['pylons.routes_dict']
 ['cust_id']
   c.customer=meta.Session.query(Customer).get(cust_id)
  else:
   c.customer = None
 
  def DoSomething(self, cust_id, id):
  .
 
  def DoMore(self, cust_id, id):
 .
 
 
 The routes_dict looks like this:
 
 {'action': u'dostuff', 'controller': u'customert', 'id': u'123'}
 
 Hopefully that works.

It works and is indeed better. I still think my approach is nicer: it
does not require poking manually at the routes memory but provides a
clean interface.

Wichert.

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Re: parameterized controllers

2008-05-19 Thread Dunk Fordyce

for a route like /company/:company_id/child_resource/id i do something like:

class ChildResourceController(BaseController):
def _get_method_args(self):
args = BaseController._get_method_args(self)
args['campaign'] = model.Company.get(args['campaign_id'])
return args

   def myaction(self, company, id):
   ...

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Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-19 Thread Antonio Beamud Montero


El vie, 16-05-2008 a las 13:38 -0700, Jonathan Vanasco escribió:
 I'm a little unclear on the better ways to deploy a Pylons app.
 
 My production servers run nginx -- is it better to use some fastcgi
 support (if so, how?) or just do a paster serve and proxy to that
 port?

apache + mod_wsgi is other option, powerful and easy.

Greetings.


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Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-19 Thread lapcchan

what is your platform?

i just tried fcgid on centos 5.1 not long ago,  with
mod_fcgid-2.1-3.el5 from epel.repo + apache (version come with
centos2.5) + python 2.4, following this wiki
http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Production+Deployment+Using+Apache%2C+FastCGI+and+mod_rewrite%2C+alternate+version

there seems to be a bug and i can reproduce it easy. a fresh project
create by paster create -t pylons project will run no problem. any
other project with sql access will just crash. i've try the quickwiki
demo and it won't work too. i've also try mod_wsgi from epel.repo but
the same occur.

i am too lazy to try and recompile everything so i end up running it
behind proxy

rgds,
 Vincent

On May 19, 3:44 am, Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:38:24PM -0700, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:

  I'm a little unclear on the better ways to deploy a Pylons app.

  My production servers run nginx -- is it better to use some fastcgi
  support (if so, how?) or just do a paster serve and proxy to that
  port?

  I've read a handful of ways on how-to-deploy apps, and all seem
  different.  I've yet to see a comparison or this is THE way to do it
  document.

 All of my apps are deployed in a FastCGI environment with Apache.  Our
 live application server has a custom install of python2.4 with
 appropriate module versions that we can care for beside the ones that
 RedHat wants.

 This works really well.  It seems a lot of people hate FCGI for
 different reasons, but I have found it to be pretty awesome.  Apps are
 very stable, no complicated proxying, and it's almost as performant as
 mod_python.

 I have considered converting our deployments to mod_python, but only
 recently acquired a practical staging environment to test things like
 that.

 --
 Ross Vandegrift
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
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Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-19 Thread Ross Vandegrift

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:43:06AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 what is your platform?
 
 i just tried fcgid on centos 5.1 not long ago,  with
 mod_fcgid-2.1-3.el5 from epel.repo + apache (version come with
 centos2.5) + python 2.4, following this wiki
 http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Production+Deployment+Using+Apache%2C+FastCGI+and+mod_rewrite%2C+alternate+version

Apache 2.0.52 from RHEL4, Python 2.4, Flup 0.5, some version of fcgi
that appears to have been custom installed and I cannot figure out the
version for the life of me

Ross

 
 there seems to be a bug and i can reproduce it easy. a fresh project
 create by paster create -t pylons project will run no problem. any
 other project with sql access will just crash. i've try the quickwiki
 demo and it won't work too. i've also try mod_wsgi from epel.repo but
 the same occur.
 
 i am too lazy to try and recompile everything so i end up running it
 behind proxy
 
 rgds,
  Vincent
 
 On May 19, 3:44 am, Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:38:24PM -0700, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:
 
   I'm a little unclear on the better ways to deploy a Pylons app.
 
   My production servers run nginx -- is it better to use some fastcgi
   support (if so, how?) or just do a paster serve and proxy to that
   port?
 
   I've read a handful of ways on how-to-deploy apps, and all seem
   different.  I've yet to see a comparison or this is THE way to do it
   document.
 
  All of my apps are deployed in a FastCGI environment with Apache.  Our
  live application server has a custom install of python2.4 with
  appropriate module versions that we can care for beside the ones that
  RedHat wants.
 
  This works really well.  It seems a lot of people hate FCGI for
  different reasons, but I have found it to be pretty awesome.  Apps are
  very stable, no complicated proxying, and it's almost as performant as
  mod_python.
 
  I have considered converting our deployments to mod_python, but only
  recently acquired a practical staging environment to test things like
  that.
 
  --
  Ross Vandegrift
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
  make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
  have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
  man in the bonds of Hell.
  --St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
 
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
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man in the bonds of Hell.
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fd limit

2008-05-19 Thread Anil

Is it possible with paster (through .ini files?) to set the max file
descriptors available to it? I guess otherwise I'll have to write a
wrapper script and do a ulimit.

Thanks

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Re: parameterized controllers

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Orr

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Previously Aaron R wrote:
 I did something similar using the __before__  method

 class CustomerController(BaseController):
  def __before__(self):
  if 'cust_id' in request.environ['pylons.routes_dict']:
   cust_id = request.environ['pylons.routes_dict']
 ['cust_id']
   c.customer=meta.Session.query(Customer).get(cust_id)
  else:
   c.customer = None

  def DoSomething(self, cust_id, id):
  .

  def DoMore(self, cust_id, id):
 .


 The routes_dict looks like this:

 {'action': u'dostuff', 'controller': u'customert', 'id': u'123'}

 Hopefully that works.

 It works and is indeed better. I still think my approach is nicer: it
 does not require poking manually at the routes memory but provides a
 clean interface.


def __before__(self, cust_id):


You can also use c.cust_id because all routing variables are shadowed onto 'c'.

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Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Orr

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:38:24PM -0700, Jonathan Vanasco wrote:

 I'm a little unclear on the better ways to deploy a Pylons app.

 My production servers run nginx -- is it better to use some fastcgi
 support (if so, how?) or just do a paster serve and proxy to that
 port?

 I've read a handful of ways on how-to-deploy apps, and all seem
 different.  I've yet to see a comparison or this is THE way to do it
 document.

There is no THE way to do it.  There are several ways which perform
well, and some of them may even work on your platform. I prefer HTTP
proxying because it's the closest to native request handling.

 This works really well.  It seems a lot of people hate FCGI for
 different reasons, but I have found it to be pretty awesome.

People hate FCGI because it was buggy and error-prone for years.
Maybe it has gotten better now.

 Apps are
 very stable, no complicated proxying, and it's almost as performant as
 mod_python.

As you see, complicated is in the eye of the beholder. :) I would
say proxying is less complicated than *CGI.

 I have considered converting our deployments to mod_python, but only
 recently acquired a practical staging environment to test things like
 that.

There was a point in using mod_python before mod_wsgi existed.  Now
that mod_wsgi exists, is more directly related to the task, and has a
better history of being reliable, why not use it?

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Re: fd limit

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Orr

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Anil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it possible with paster (through .ini files?) to set the max file
 descriptors available to it? I guess otherwise I'll have to write a
 wrapper script and do a ulimit.

Paster doesn't interpret config options itself.  It merely
instantiates the indicated server with the given arguments.  I doubt
any of the servers used for Pylons apps sets the ulimit, since it's
such an OS-specific thing.

Actually, Paster does interpret some options if you make the config
script executable (#!/usr/bin/paster) and add an [exe] section for the
options.  But still there's no ulimit= option, although that could be
added.  But most people do not use paster this way, and Ian has said
he's not sure if paster's self-daemonization feature is a good idea
anyway.  (Because it duplicates the functionality of OS-level daemon
managers.)

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Re: fd limit

2008-05-19 Thread Ian Bicking

Anil wrote:
 Is it possible with paster (through .ini files?) to set the max file
 descriptors available to it? I guess otherwise I'll have to write a
 wrapper script and do a ulimit.

It doesn't, and I'm not sure you actually can from inside the process. 
My vague recollection is that you really need to do that from a wrapper 
script.  Even if you can, I'm not sure where it'd go in the config file, 
so I'd still suggest just sticking with a wrapper.

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Re: Authkit - colliding cookies

2008-05-19 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Moshe C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have two parallel applications running from the same host but on
 different ports.

 How do I configure Authkit so that each one creates a unique cookie.

 Currently if you log into one app, you are also authenticated for the
 other.
 The cookie name is the host name.

Normally, the cookie is specific to a (protocol, host, port) triple
(I'm hand waiving a bit).  Are you doing some weird sort of proxying
with Apache so that the two different apps are both available under
port 80 but with different paths?  That's the only thing I can think
of that would cause this behavior.  Don't forget, you can also use
separate subdomains.

Best Regards,
-jj

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Re: Beaker Trunk With Appengine

2008-05-19 Thread Shannon -jj Behrens

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Anil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to run pylons with google app engine and everything is
 working perfectly locally, but when I upload the site live beaker
 gives me the following error. Anyone have any idea on where to start
 debugging?  http://pastebin.com/m7fc2a3c7

I'm going to hazard some guesses:

* You're not saving sessions to disk, are you?  Clearly that won't work.
* I wonder if this has to do with the fact that your code is running
on multiple different servers.
* Why are you trying to pickle a function?  What's in your session?

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More WebHelpers 0.6-dev changes

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Orr

I pushed some changes to WebHelpers 0.6-dev that may affect those
using the new helpers.

*** NO MORE MAGIC URLS ***
webhelpers.html.tags:
image()
javascript_link()
stylesheet_link()
auto_discovery_link()
webhelpers.html.tools:
button_to()

These functions no longer do magic on their URL arguments; they output
the exact URL given.  Previously they called Routes to get the site
prefix, and implicitly added prefixes like /images/ and suffixes
like .css.

This eliminates a fragile Routes dependency in WebHelpers, and a
compatibility issue with the upcoming Routes 2.  So you should call
url_for on all your URL arguments, same as you already do with
link_to() and everywhere else you have a URL.  Example:

h.stylesheet_link(h.url_for(/stylesheets/default.css))

This may look a bit verbose but it's only temporary.  Routes 2 will
replace ``h.url_for`` with a ``url`` object that's automatically
exported to the templates.  (WebHelpers 0.6 will be in the imminent
Pylons 0.9.7 release.  Routes 2 is scheduled for Pylons 0.9.8.)

The Rails helpers have not been changed.  So the only Routes
dependencies remaining in WebHelpers are in Paginate, Pagination
(deprecated), and Rails (deprecated).


*** IMAGE ALT ATTRIBUTE ***

Perhaps more controversially, I made the 'alt' argument to image() a
mandatory positional arg.  In this age of accessibility, there's no
reason to leave these out or let them default to GreenIcon.
Previously it invented a default alt value based on the filename stem
capitalized.

You can pass  or None to get a blank alt attribute (alt=), but at
least you're making a conscious choice to do this, and also
documenting in the template that this image has no semantic value and
is pure decoration.

*** SELECT() WITH INT VALUES ***

select() now handles int values and implicitly converts them to
strings for HTML.  This allows you to link a select pulldown to an int
database value, and to use ints in your options lists.  Thanks to
Christoph Haas for this patch, which helps my applications too.

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Re: More WebHelpers 0.6-dev changes

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Vanasco

 select() now handles int values and implicitly converts them to
 strings for HTML.  This allows you to link a select pulldown to an int
 database value, and to use ints in your options lists.  Thanks to
 Christoph Haas for this patch, which helps my applications too.

neat!

is there a formencode patch too ;)
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Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-19 Thread Jonathan Vanasco

so is Apache considered to be a good thing (through mod_wsgi ,
mod_python , or other ?)

i've been doing mod_perl dev for years, and have had some experience
with mod_python -- generally speaking, my experience is that if you
can avoid apache you're better off.  i guess that's what is throwing
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Re: Beaker Trunk With Appengine

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Bangert

On May 16, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Anil wrote:


I am trying to run pylons with google app engine and everything is
working perfectly locally, but when I upload the site live beaker
gives me the following error. Anyone have any idea on where to start
debugging?  http://pastebin.com/m7fc2a3c


Are you using the google backend type?

- Ben

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Re: Authkit - colliding cookies

2008-05-19 Thread Moshe Cohen
No, not using Apache, just paster with two versions of development.ini with
different port parameters.

The authkit parameters are:

authkit.setup.method = form, cookie
authkit.form.authenticate.user.data = user:pw
authkit.cookie.secret = somestring
authkit.cookie.signoutpath = /cntr/signout


On 5/20/08, Shannon -jj Behrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Moshe C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have two parallel applications running from the same host but on
  different ports.
 
  How do I configure Authkit so that each one creates a unique cookie.
 
  Currently if you log into one app, you are also authenticated for the
  other.
  The cookie name is the host name.


 Normally, the cookie is specific to a (protocol, host, port) triple
 (I'm hand waiving a bit).  Are you doing some weird sort of proxying
 with Apache so that the two different apps are both available under
 port 80 but with different paths?  That's the only thing I can think
 of that would cause this behavior.  Don't forget, you can also use
 separate subdomains.

 Best Regards,
 -jj

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Re: More WebHelpers 0.6-dev changes

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Orr

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is there a formencode patch too ;)

For what?

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Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Orr

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so is Apache considered to be a good thing (through mod_wsgi ,
 mod_python , or other ?)

 i've been doing mod_perl dev for years, and have had some experience
 with mod_python -- generally speaking, my experience is that if you
 can avoid apache you're better off.  i guess that's what is throwing
 me off.  i equate apache with isn't there a better way now?

It's stable, gives you HTTPS and rewrite and named virtual hosts, and
gives clients a warm fuzzy feeling that you're using something they've
heard of.  People say it also has a better knowledge of the quirky
useragents out there and can correct misformed requests better than
just exposing PasteHTTPServer or CherryPy directly, though I don't
know how true it is.

There are a few newer servers now (nginx, lighthttpd, cherokee) that
claim to be smaller, more efficient, and better organized than Apache.
 On my production server I've found Apache sufficient  so I haven't
bothered with them.  But I do have a virtual server for our local
Python group, with Apache running Mailman and MoinMoin, and Apache
regularly dies there with an Out of Memory error, or the kernel's
memory terminator kills it and then hangs.  So I've been meaning to
try nginx there and see if it works better.

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Re: Deployment Question

2008-05-19 Thread Graham Dumpleton

On May 20, 2:10 pm, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so is Apache considered to be a good thing (through mod_wsgi ,
 mod_python , or other ?)

 i've been doing mod_perl dev for years, and have had some experience
 with mod_python -- generally speaking, my experience is that if you
 can avoid apache you're better off.  i guess that's what is throwing
 me off.  i equate apache with isn't there a better way now?

It really depends on what you want to do.

If you are running some small site more or less anything will do as it
generally isn't the web server that is your bottleneck. Of course, if
you are running in a memory constrained VPS you wouldn't use Apache
unless you properly investigate properly how you need to configure it
to work under such a constraint.

If you are going to run a large site which is able to respond well to
bursts in traffic, running Python embedded in Apache running prefork
MPM, with huge amounts of memory in the box is generally the best
approach. This is because although memory usage will be high, being
non multithreaded you can use any cpu/cores to best advantage, plus
you benefit from Apache's ability to create dynamically more processes
to handle demand when required and then reap them when no longer
required.

In other words, it is impossible to answer you question without really
knowing what your site is doing, how big it is, amount of traffic etc
etc.

Graham
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