[issue12780] Clean up tests for pyc/pyo in __file__

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 98d13885a574 by Vinay Sajip in branch '3.2':
Issue #12780: Removed checks in logging for .pyc/.pyo in __file__.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/98d13885a574

New changeset ac0c04d8eafb by Vinay Sajip in branch 'default':
Issue #12780: Merged fix from 3.2.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/ac0c04d8eafb

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

James Y Knight wrote:
 
 James Y Knight f...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:
 
 Sure, you can compile and run Python on both versions of Linux, but
 what if your application uses features that are only present in Linux
 3.0 and later ?
 
 This comment is making me think you've missed just how irrelevant kernel 
 version 3.0 really is. To a first approximation, it *has no new features*. 
 Now, to be sure, there are a couple of things, sure. Just like there were a 
 couple new features in 2.6.39 two months earlier, 2.6.38 two months before 
 that, 2.6.37 two months before that, and so on, every 2-3 months, back to the 
 release of 2.6.7 or so in 2004.

I am aware of the history behind that version number change. The
difference between Linux 2.x and 3.x may be small nowadays, but
another 20 kernel releases down the road, the difference will show.

 BTW: The new attribute should contain the complete version number,
 not just the major version. `uname -r` would provide a good start.
 
 To be useful, that would have to be a runtime-computed thing, not the 
 build-time value that sys.platform's trailing number is. But we already have 
 that: os.uname(). It certainly doesn't need a second name.

There are two aspects to consider:

1. The platform Python (and presumably the application) was
   compiled on.

2. The platform Python and the application are currently
   running on.

Both Python and the application will make certain assumptions about
the platform depending on the compile time environment. If the
deployment platform is too different from that environment, it
won't run or not as expected. So you need both the compile and the
runtime version information.

The suggested change removes the compile time information from
the platform string, so that information needs to be preserved
in a new attribute.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Martin von Gagern

Martin von Gagern martin.vgag...@gmx.net added the comment:

As people keep stating how easy the change from sys.platform == 'linux2' to 
sys.platform.startswith('linux') is, e.g. msg142385, please also keep in mind 
cases like someDict.get(sys.platform) where the comparison is implicit and 
therefore a simple change to startswith won't do the trick. Seen that in the 
wild.

Besides that, I can only wholeheartedly agree to the points so eloquently 
described by Martin v. Löwis and James Y Knight. Thanks!

Let's please force it to 'linux2' for the next 2.7 and 3.2 releases, so people 
can use recent kernels without breaking (or having to rewrite) third-party 
apps. Let's also encourage distros to do the same for older releases, perhaps 
even suggesting patches.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Martin von Gagern

Martin von Gagern martin.vgag...@gmx.net added the comment:

Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
 Both Python and the application will make certain assumptions about
 the platform depending on the compile time environment.

Can you give examples for this?

 So you need both the compile and the runtime version information.

I very much doubt that any feature in Python is actually enabled if
compiled under Linux 3. If so that's probably a bug in Python, due to
the small number of features added from 2.6.39 to 3.0. Either the
feature was introduced into Linux before 3.0, in which case Python
should use it as early as possible, or the feature was introduced in
some 3.x release, in which case not all Linux 3 builds will have it.

So the single digit major number will not be enough for this kind of
checks, and the safest way is to check for the feature itself, e.g. by
simply using it and handling NotImplementedException appropriately. That
approach is more portable for new platforms as well.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Martin von Gagern wrote:
 
 Martin von Gagern martin.vgag...@gmx.net added the comment:
 
 Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
 Both Python and the application will make certain assumptions about
 the platform depending on the compile time environment.
 
 Can you give examples for this?

Sure, just have a look at how different the various minor release
Mac OS X versions are. They even changed the default architecture
without bumping the major version of the OS.

A configure run on one OS version will pick up different
environment settings than on a later one. As a result Python
and application extensions use different libs/packages/tools
or even create completely different runtimes (e.g. one for PPC,
the other for i386).

 So you need both the compile and the runtime version information.
 
 I very much doubt that any feature in Python is actually enabled if
 compiled under Linux 3. If so that's probably a bug in Python, due to
 the small number of features added from 2.6.39 to 3.0. Either the
 feature was introduced into Linux before 3.0, in which case Python
 should use it as early as possible, or the feature was introduced in
 some 3.x release, in which case not all Linux 3 builds will have it.
 
 So the single digit major number will not be enough for this kind of
 checks, and the safest way is to check for the feature itself, e.g. by
 simply using it and handling NotImplementedException appropriately. That
 approach is more portable for new platforms as well.

That works fine for features that you can programmatically
control. It doesn't work well for static data that you provide
externally depending on the platform OS version. Take e.g.
the plat-freebsdN directories with the OS dependent
constants/functions as example.

As already mentioned, the diff between Linux 2.x and 3.x will
grow over time and while there may not be much to see now,
things will change in the coming years.

Just look at the differences between plat-linux1 and plat-linux2
(plat-linux1 was phased out in Python 2.4 so you have to go back
to Python 2.3 or earlier).

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[issue10504] Trivial mingw compile fixes

2011-08-19 Thread Kalev Lember

Changes by Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com:


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[issue10293] PyMemoryView object has obsolete members

2011-08-19 Thread Stefan Krah

Stefan Krah stefan-use...@bytereef.org added the comment:

I think PyBUF_SHADOW was the renamed version of PyBUF_UPDATEIFCOPY
from the PEP. :)

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[issue12650] Subprocess leaks fd upon kill()

2011-08-19 Thread Charles-François Natali

Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:

The test now passes on the buildbots, closing.

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[issue12783] test_posix failure on FreeBSD 6.4: test_get_and_set_scheduler_and_param

2011-08-19 Thread Charles-François Natali

New submission from Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr:

http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/all/builders/x86%20FreeBSD%206.4%203.x/builds/1734/steps/test/logs/stdio


==
ERROR: test_get_and_set_scheduler_and_param (test.test_posix.PosixTester)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/usr/home/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-freebsd/build/Lib/test/test_posix.py, line 
878, in test_get_and_set_scheduler_and_param
posix.sched_setparam(0, param)
OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument

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The reason is quite simple:

http://freebsd.active-venture.com/FreeBSD-srctree/newsrc/posix4/ksched.c.html


/*
 * XXX About priorities
 *
 *  POSIX 1003.1b requires that numerically higher priorities be of
 *  higher priority.  It also permits sched_setparam to be
 *  implementation defined for SCHED_OTHER.  I don't like
 *  the notion of inverted priorites for normal processes when
 *  you can use setpriority for that.
 *
 *  I'm rejecting sched_setparam for SCHED_OTHER with EINVAL.
 */

[...]
int ksched_setparam(register_t *ret, struct ksched *ksched,
struct proc *p, const struct sched_param *param)
{
register_t policy;
int e;

e = getscheduler(policy, ksched, p);

if (e == 0)
{
if (policy == SCHED_OTHER)
e = EINVAL;
else
e = ksched_setscheduler(ret, ksched, p, policy, param);
}

return e;
}



And indeed, sched_setparam is implementation-defined if the process' scheduling 
policy is SCHED_OTHER, see 
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/sched_setparam.html

If the current scheduling policy for the process specified by pid is not 
SCHED_FIFO or SCHED_RR, including SCHED_OTHER, the result is 
implementation-dependent.


It seems that FreeBSD made the choice of returning EINVAL, but it changed in 
recent versions (the test passes on FreeBSD 8).

I'm not sure about the best solution though:
1) don't perform this test if the scheduling policy is not SCHED_RR or 
SCHED_FIFO
2) skip this test on FreeBSD versions that return EINVAL (maybe adding a new 
requires_freebsd_version to test.support)

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[issue12707] Deprecate addinfourl getters

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

 For these two reasons I propose to:
  * document the 3 attributes as the suggested way to access this
information;
  * deprecate the 3 getters;
  * avoid to document the now undocumented getcode();
+1

 The addclosehook class could be provided via an alternative constructor
I can’t say why, but I don’t like that.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 The suggested change removes the compile time information from
 the platform string, so that information needs to be preserved
 in a new attribute.

-1 on any new platform identification attribute. We already have too
many of them, and there's the platform module for precise
identification.

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[issue11564] pickle not 64-bit ready

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 I have tried running the tests on a machine with 12GB of RAM, but when I do 
 so,
 the new tests get skipped saying not enough memory, even when I specify -M 
 11G
 on the command-line.

How much does it say is required?
Did you remove the skips in BigmemPickleTests?

  The problem seems to be the change to the precisionbigmemtest
 decorator in test.support. I don't understand what the purpose of the dryrun
 flag is, but the modified condition for skipping doesn't look right to me.

Well, perhaps I got the logic wrong. Debugging welcome :)

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[issue12256] Link isinstance/issubclass doc to abc module

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot devn...@psf.upfronthosting.co.za added the comment:

New changeset eeb8a440bde0 by Éric Araujo in branch '3.2':
Link isinstance/issubclass to the ABC glossary entry (#12256)
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/eeb8a440bde0

New changeset e2e8c752c1b6 by Éric Araujo in branch '3.2':
Mention virtual subclasses in the glossary entry for ABCs (#12256).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e2e8c752c1b6

New changeset 5160d8eb3468 by Éric Araujo in branch 'default':
Merge fixes for #12256 and typos from 3.2
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5160d8eb3468

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[issue1626300] 'Installing Python Modules' does not work for Windows

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 59f7bbe1236c by Éric Araujo in branch '3.2':
Remove obsolete term + indicate how to find the program (#1626300).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/59f7bbe1236c

New changeset adaec1a0dd47 by Éric Araujo in branch '3.2':
Fix instance I missed in 59f7bbe1236c (#1626300)
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/adaec1a0dd47

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[issue10149] Data truncation in expat parser

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

I was about to commit an edited version of your patch (attached) but then I 
thought we should check whether this isn’t really a bug.  I just don’t see why 
expat would chunk without paying heed to the newlines if it is supposed to 
chunk at newlines.

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[issue12256] Link isinstance/issubclass doc to abc module

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 96222062239f by Éric Araujo in branch '2.7':
Link isinstance/issubclass to the ABC glossary entry (#12256)
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/96222062239f

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[issue10745] setup.py install --user option undocumented

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 25a48fe791e6 by Éric Araujo in branch '2.7':
Add documentation for PEP 370 features in distutils (#10745).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/25a48fe791e6

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[issue8617] Better document user site-packages in site module doc

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset b3f72b6450f1 by Éric Araujo in branch '2.7':
Improve documentation for PEP 370 support in site module (#8617).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/b3f72b6450f1

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[issue1626300] 'Installing Python Modules' does not work for Windows

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset e9022dc7a411 by Éric Araujo in branch '2.7':
Remove obsolete term + indicate how to find the program (#1626300).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e9022dc7a411

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[issue10745] setup.py install --user option undocumented

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue11564] pickle not 64-bit ready

2011-08-19 Thread Nadeem Vawda

Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com added the comment:

 How much does it say is required?
 Did you remove the skips in BigmemPickleTests?

Yes, I did remove the skips. It says 2GB for some, and 4GB for others.

 Well, perhaps I got the logic wrong. Debugging welcome :)

I'd be glad to do so, but I'm not sure what the aim of the dryrun flag is.
Do you want to make it the default that precisionbigmem tests are skipped,
unless the decorator invocation explicitly specifies dryrun=False?

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[issue8617] Better document user site-packages in site module doc

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue12256] Link isinstance/issubclass doc to abc module

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

I committed a modified version of the patch.

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[issue11564] pickle not 64-bit ready

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 I'd be glad to do so, but I'm not sure what the aim of the dryrun flag is.
 Do you want to make it the default that precisionbigmem tests are skipped,
 unless the decorator invocation explicitly specifies dryrun=False?

No, the point is to avoid running these tests when -M is not specified.
See what happens with other bigmem tests.

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[issue9173] logger statement not guarded in shutil._make_tarball

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

I fixed this in 615a29295d5f but forgot to mention the bug number in the commit 
message.  To reproduce the bug, I only had to backport two lines from 3.2, so I 
did not use your patch.  Thanks to both of you nonetheless for the report and 
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[issue12703] Improve error reporting for packaging.util.resolve_name

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue12707] Deprecate addinfourl getters

2011-08-19 Thread Ezio Melotti

Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:

I thought about having another class, but I couldn't come up with a decent name 
for it (ResponseWithCloseHook?).  After all it's still a Response and unless 
you need a way to distinguish responses with and without close hooks, I think 
it might be better to have a single class for both.

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[issue10149] Data truncation in expat parser

2011-08-19 Thread Fred L. Drake, Jr.

Fred L. Drake, Jr. f...@fdrake.net added the comment:

Chunking of the data is expected with Expat.  There are no promises about 
*where* chunks are broken; the underlying behavior will break at line endings, 
but is not limited to that.

Setting buffer_text informs the Python wrapper that it's allowed to combine the 
chunks reported by the Expat library; this was made optional since it could 
affect working applications (changing the default with the move to Python 3 may 
have been acceptable, though).

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[issue12782] Multiple context expressions do not support parentheses for continuation across lines

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Antoine Pitrou wrote:
 
 Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
 
 The suggested change removes the compile time information from
 the platform string, so that information needs to be preserved
 in a new attribute.
 
 -1 on any new platform identification attribute. We already have too
 many of them, and there's the platform module for precise
 identification.

Please reread the quoted sentence:

The *compile time* version information needs to be preserved.

The platform module provide *run-time* information, but doesn't
give access to the compile time information.

We do have distutils to read the full compile time information,
but it's not always available, since it often requires installing
development packages.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

 We do have distutils to read the full compile time information
We have sysconfig in the stdlib in 2.7 and 3.2+.

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[issue12682] Meaning of 'accepted' resolution as documented in devguide

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

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I would say I find accepted little useful in practice. Removing it would 
avoid the confusion with its various (intended or not) meanings.

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[issue12682] Meaning of 'accepted' resolution as documented in devguide

2011-08-19 Thread Ezio Melotti

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+1

Martin, should we convert all the accepted to fixed before removing it?

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Éric Araujo wrote:
 
 Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:
 
 We do have distutils to read the full compile time information
 We have sysconfig in the stdlib in 2.7 and 3.2+.

Right (it originated in distutils), but it has the same problem:
without the Makefile and pyconfig.h files installed, it cannot
do its magic.

In addition to that it has the same problem as the platform module:
getting the information can be time and resource consuming.

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread Kåre Krig

New submission from Kåre Krig karek...@gmail.com:

When I concatenate two strings, with the one on the right hand side being 
large, the resulting string is almost correct but has a few chars substituted. 

The following code (with (...) added on the print statement for 3.1) prints 
False on both Python 2.6.5  3.1. The file I read is a 20Mb file of text.


inbuff = open('top.test.in')
full_file = inbuff.readlines()
inbuff.close()
data_string = ''.join(full_file)

buff_A = ' ' + data_string
buff_B = ' ' + data_string
print buff_A == buff_B 




I have only been able to test this on one computer, running SUSE. Ram seems 
fine as it passed 15h of memtest. 

Python versions are:

Python 2.6.5 (r265:79063, May  6 2011, 17:25:59) 
[GCC 4.5.0 20100604 [gcc-4_5-branch revision 160292]] on linux2

Python 3.1 (r31:73572, Jul  5 2010, 13:31:53) 
[GCC 4.5.0 20100604 [gcc-4_5-branch revision 160292]] on linux2

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severity: normal
status: open
title: Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string
type: behavior
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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 Please reread the quoted sentence:
 
 The *compile time* version information needs to be preserved.

Then please give it a very explicit name, such as sys.build_platform
or sys.compile_time_version_info. We don't want people to be misled by
yet another platform identification attribute.

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Have you tried with other large files? Or on another system?

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread STINNER Victor

Changes by STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com:


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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread Ezio Melotti

Changes by Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com:


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[issue12409] Moving Documenting Python to Devguide

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

From IRC:

fdrake After last being pressed on this, I got to thinking about it more.  
Back in the day, that's all the doc there was about the tool-chain.  With 
Sphinx standing as a successful independent project, the tool documentation 
need no longer be part of any of the python.org docs; what's left probably can 
be moved.
fdrake (Yes, I'm withdrawing my objection.)

So, I am in favor of moving the Python-specific parts of Doc/documenting (if 
any) to the devguide and just link to the upstream Sphinx docs (which are a 
subset of our Doc/documenting) for the markup and suchlike.

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

Try hash(buff_A) == hash(buff_B).

Are you able to identify which bytes/characters are differents?

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Antoine Pitrou wrote:
 
 Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:
 
 Please reread the quoted sentence:

 The *compile time* version information needs to be preserved.
 
 Then please give it a very explicit name, such as sys.build_platform
 or sys.compile_time_version_info. We don't want people to be misled by
 yet another platform identification attribute.

Good idea.

We could simply write `uname -s -r -m` into the new attribute:

sys.build_platform = ('Linux', '2.6.34.8-0.2-desktop', 'x86_64')

and then have

sys.platform = 'linux'

for quick general platform checks.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread James Y Knight

James Y Knight f...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

YAGNI. Nobody has needed sys.build_platform yet. (And no, sys.platform isn't 
it, since that's been fixed at linux2 approximately forever). Why do you think 
people would suddenly start needing to know the build-time kernel version now?

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[issue12409] Moving Documenting Python to Devguide

2011-08-19 Thread Ezio Melotti

Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:

+1

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

James Y Knight wrote:
 
 YAGNI. Nobody has needed sys.build_platform yet. (And no, sys.platform isn't 
 it, since that's been fixed at linux2 approximately forever). Why do you 
 think people would suddenly start needing to know the build-time kernel 
 version now?

Because it's been integrated to sys.platform for years and on many
platforms. If we now plan to remove it, the information has to be
available from somewhere else, hence the new attribute.

Note that I'm talking about removing it for all platforms, not just
Linux, which has had the major version 2 number for 15 years, but
also for FreeBSD which releases new major versions far more
frequently. The new attribute also helps on Mac OS X and Linux,
since it includes the minor version as well.

BTW: Your forever is a rather short time period - Python predates
Linux :-)

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread Kåre Krig

Kåre Krig karek...@gmail.com added the comment:

I tried it again with another file. This time I used the dictionary from 
www.math.sjsu.edu/~foster/dictionary.txt  (~3Mb)

hash(buff_A) == hash(buff_B)  returns False just like the direct comparison. I 
ran the program on dictionary.txt and printed buff_A  buff_B to two different 
files. When running diff on those files the reported differences where:

149668c149668
 intraisland
---
 intrqisland
150052c150052
 invernacular
---
 ynvernacular
230933c230933
 perwitsky
---
 perwitski


For my first run, then immediatly running the same script and doing diff again 
produced another set of differences

253803c253803
 recrown
---
 recrow~
254213c254213
 redisseise
---
 bedisseise
254656c254656
 reflectors
---
 beflectors
255083c255083
 regrating
---
 regratinw


Note how the ascii codes for the faulty characters only differ by one bit, and 
only the 5th least significant bit. This is consistent with my previous tests.

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[issue12778] JSON-serializing a large container takes too much memory

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 I actually looked into doing this for issue #12134, but it didn't seem 
 so simple; Since C has no yield, I think the iterator would need to
 maintain its own stack to keep track of where it is in the object tree 
 it's encoding...

The encoder doesn't have to be turned into an iterator. It would just need to 
call a given callable (fp.write) at regular intervals and that would be enough 
to C-accelerate dump().

My patch actually provides a good foundation for this.

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 Note how the ascii codes for the faulty characters only differ by one
 bit, and only the 5th least significant bit.

This looks very much like a hardware issue.
Python usually does nothing special with the 5th bit of characters. Also, the 
IO system and string objects are different in 2.6 and 3.1, so witnessing the 
same behaviour under both versions points to a likely external cause.

Could you try on another system?

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

It's really hard to follow this issue. I'm trying to sum up, please comment my 
message if I'm wrong.

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If I understood correctly, this issue has 3 remaining points:

(1) Python 2.7 and 3.2: force sys.platform to 'linux2'? Votes:

Antoine Pitrou: -1
Victor Stinner: +0
Martin von Gagern: +1
Barry A. Warsaw: +1
Martin v. Löwis: +1
Marc-Andre Lemburg: +1

= total=+3 (6 votes)

(2) Python 3.3: change sys.platform to 'linux'? Votes:

Martin v. Löwis: +1
Charles-François Natali: -1
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc: -1
Antoine Pitrou: -0 ?
Victor Stinner: +1

= total=0 (5 votes)

(3) Python 3.3: if point (2) is accepted, add a new variable providing more 
information about the build platform

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For the first point, it looks like most people agree to keep 'linux2' on Linux 
3 for Python 2.7 and 3.2. I converted Matthias Klose's patch (msg140061) into a 
patch for Python 3.2: configure_linux2.python3.2.patch. If this patch is 
accepted, changesets 69dd70e70cc8 (2.7) and 9e3b28a7898f (3.2) have to be 
reverted (issue #12571).

I prefer to do nothing for (1), but users usually prefer software that just 
work. Example: see Arch Linux fiasco when they chose to use Python 3 for 
/usr/bin/python. Some distro (Debian and Ubuntu?) will anyway use this approach.

--

For the second point, there is no consensus.

I changed my vote from -1 to +1 because... I would like to close the issue (!) 
and I agree that I will easier to manipulate 'linux' instead of 'linux2' or 
'linux3' or 'linux4' or ... (we have such problem today with 
freebsd2..freebsd8).

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For the last point, point (3): I think that it would be easier to wait until 
the point (2) is decided, because the point (3) depends on point (2).

@Marc-Andre Lemburg: you might open a different issue (when point 2 will be 
deciced)? I consider that it is a different topic because sysconfig already 
contains requested informations and so it's more a new feature.

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[issue12657] Cannot override JSON encoding of basic type subclasses

2011-08-19 Thread Niko Wilbert

Niko Wilbert m...@nikowilbert.de added the comment:

This issue is also a real pain when using namedtuple. In many situations a 
namedtuple should be serialized as a dict, but there is no reasonable way to 
get this behavior.

Earlier solutions (e.g., see 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5906831/serializing-a-python-namedtuple-to-json)
 are now broken in Python 2.7.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread R. David Murray

R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:

MAL wrote:

 As already mentioned, the diff between Linux 2.x and 3.x will
 grow over time and while there may not be much to see now,
 things will change in the coming years.

The only way I can read this argument that makes any sense to me is that you 
are arguing for a precise build-time OS string.  If it is supposed to be an 
argument in favor of keeping 'linux3' it makes no sense, since '2' vs '3' is in 
no way a useful line of demarcation when it comes to linux.

So, if you think there is a *run time* need to know the precise *build time* OS 
version number, can you point to any specific use cases?

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Barry A. Warsaw

Barry A. Warsaw ba...@python.org added the comment:

On Aug 19, 2011, at 02:23 PM, STINNER Victor wrote:

(2) Python 3.3: change sys.platform to 'linux'? Votes:

Martin v. Löwis: +1
Charles-François Natali: -1
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc: -1
Antoine Pitrou: -0 ?
Victor Stinner: +1

= total=0 (5 votes)

Please add my +1 to this tally.

(3) Python 3.3: if point (2) is accepted, add a new variable providing more
information about the build platform

I'm -0 on this.  I think we either have enough information already, or YAGNI.

For the second point, there is no consensus.

Maybe I tipped it over. :)

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread James Y Knight

James Y Knight f...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

 configure_linux2.python3.2.patch

It would probably be more future-proof to use linux*), not linux3) in the 
case expression.

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

You should retry memtest86+: http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

I had also memory errors recently. After 10 minutes, memtest86+ listed me 4 
errors. After 30 minutes, there were 30 errors.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

 Python 2.7 and 3.2: force sys.platform to 'linux2'?
-0.  I dislike this change for stable releases, but it’s a small change that 
would help a lot of users.  I think the release managers would need to approve 
such a change.

 Python 3.3: change sys.platform to 'linux'?
+1!

 Python 3.3: if point (2) is accepted, add a new variable providing
 more information about the build platform
-0.

BTW, your tallies are wrong: a +0 is more supportive than a -0, but your 
additions don’t show that.  :)

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread Kåre Krig

Kåre Krig karek...@gmail.com added the comment:

I managed to get access to another two systems to test this on. One running 
ubuntu  python 2.7.1 and the other suse  python 2.6. I could not reproduce 
the bug on either of those systems.

This all points to the issue not really being a bug in python but something on 
my system.

The fact that I could predictably produce this bug using 20Mb of data, then 
pass 15 hours of memtest86+ and finally produce the bug again makes me think 
it's not the ram system, but there are of course layers between python and the 
ram that might be broken.

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[issue12784] Concatenation of strings returns the wrong string

2011-08-19 Thread STINNER Victor

STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:

It's an hardware problem, not a Python problem, so I close this issue. Check 
your RAM and the temperature of your mother board and of the CPU using your 
tests (e.g. try lm-sensors on Linux).

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[issue12765] test_packaging failure under Snow Leopard

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

Roundup Robot devn...@psf.upfronthosting.co.za added the comment:

New changeset 40f4a3d6a532 by Éric Araujo in branch 'default':
Restore $HOME after test has run (should fix #12765)
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/40f4a3d6a532

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[issue12765] test_packaging failure under Snow Leopard

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

Thank you sir!  How did you find it?

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[issue9200] Make str methods work with non-BMP chars on narrow builds

2011-08-19 Thread Ezio Melotti

Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:

Here's a new version of the patch.
I decided to leave the prefix anyway, for consistency with what I'll commit to 
3.3 and because without the prefix NEXT() looks ambiguous (and it's not 
entirely clear if it's private or not).
I rewrote the macro as Victor suggested and tested that it still works (I also 
added a test with surrogates).
The macros are now called _Py_UNICODE_IS_{LOW|HIGH}_SURROGATE, with '_'s.  I 
also tried the implementation proposed in #12751 and benchmarked with:
$ ./python -m timeit -s 's = \uD800\uD8000\uDFFF\uDFFF\uDFFF*1000' 
's.islower()'
and got 1000 loops, best of 3: 345 usec per loop on both, so I left the old 
version because I think it's more readable.
Finally, I rewrote the comment about the macro, adding a note about its side 
effects.

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[issue12785] list_distinfo_file is wrong

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

New submission from Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org:

The list_distinfo_files method does not fulfills its mission.  I changed the 
test file to be more stupid (and therefore not use high-level functions that we 
can’t trust) when building the expected list and discovered that 
list_distinfo_files returned too many files!

I would need someone to test the attached patch on Windows to see if I need to 
replace '/' in self.path or not (the code before the XXX comment).

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components: Distutils2
messages: 142469
nosy: alexis, eric.araujo, higery, michael.mulich
priority: high
severity: normal
stage: patch review
status: open
title: list_distinfo_file is wrong
type: behavior
versions: Python 3.3

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[issue12785] list_distinfo_file is wrong

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue12678] test_packaging and test_distutils failures under Windows

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue12678] test_packaging and test_distutils failures under Windows

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

I don’t understand this part:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File distutils\tests\test_sdist.py, line 385, in test_manual_manifest
archive = tarfile.open(archive_name)
  File tarfile.py, line 1736, in open
return func(name, r, fileobj, **kwargs)
  File tarfile.py, line 1806, in gzopen
fileobj.close()
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'close'

The code is protected by a skipUnless(ZLIB_SUPPORT), so how can the tarfile 
object be None?

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[issue1492704] distinct error type from shutil.move()

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

Thanks for the patch.  I made a review on Rietveld; a mail should have been 
sent.

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[issue12778] JSON-serializing a large container takes too much memory

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:


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stage:  - committed/rejected
status: open - closed

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[issue12778] JSON-serializing a large container takes too much memory

2011-08-19 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 47176e8d7060 by Antoine Pitrou in branch 'default':
Issue #12778: Reduce memory consumption when JSON-encoding a large container of 
many small objects.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/47176e8d7060

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[issue12659] Add tests for packaging.tests.support

2011-08-19 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

I made a review on Rietveld; a mail should have been sent.

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[issue12765] test_packaging failure under Snow Leopard

2011-08-19 Thread Ned Deily

Ned Deily n...@acm.org added the comment:

I found it by patching the appropriate unittest test runner to check before and 
after each test case.  It would be nice if there were a standard option to do 
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[issue12786] subprocess wait() hangs when stdin is closed

2011-08-19 Thread Idan Kamara

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The following program hangs on Debian, Python 2.6.6:

import subprocess

proc1 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
proc2 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)

proc1.stdin.close()
proc1.wait()

Changing the last two lines to:

proc2.stdin.close()
proc2.wait()

Doesn't hang. The guys at #python-dev confirmed the same happens on 2.7 but not 
on 3.x.

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title: subprocess wait() hangs when stdin is closed
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[issue12786] subprocess wait() hangs when stdin is closed

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr:


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[issue11564] pickle not 64-bit ready

2011-08-19 Thread Nadeem Vawda

Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com added the comment:

D'oh. I just realized why the -M option wasn't being recognized - I had passed 
it
after the actual test name, so it was being treated as another test instead of 
an
option. Sorry for the confusion :/

As for the actual test results, test_huge_bytes_(32|64)b both pass, but
test_huge_str fails with this traceback:

==
FAIL: test_huge_str (test.test_pickle.InMemoryPickleTests)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/usr/local/google/home/nadeemvawda/code/cpython/3.2/Lib/test/support.py, line 
1108, in wrapper
return f(self, maxsize)
  File 
/usr/local/google/home/nadeemvawda/code/cpython/3.2/Lib/test/pickletester.py, 
line 1151, in test_huge_str
self.dumps(data, protocol=proto)
AssertionError: (class 'ValueError', class 'OverflowError') not raised

The same error occurs on the default branch.

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[issue11564] pickle not 64-bit ready

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

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 D'oh. I just realized why the -M option wasn't being recognized - I had 
 passed it
 after the actual test name, so it was being treated as another test instead 
 of an
 option. Sorry for the confusion :/
 
 As for the actual test results, test_huge_bytes_(32|64)b both pass, but
 test_huge_str fails with this traceback:

Can you replace _2G with _4G in the decorator for that test?

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[issue12781] Mention SO_REUSEADDR near socket doc examples

2011-08-19 Thread Sandro Tosi

Sandro Tosi sandro.t...@gmail.com added the comment:

Sure it could be a solution, but I didn't go that way since it *may* complicate 
the example (which I see a something to get quick ready to test some code, 
there's always time for improvements later). I'm fine either way.

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[issue12213] BufferedRandom, BufferedRWPair: issues with interlaced read-write

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

I think your expectations for BufferedRWPair are wrong. You should not use 
BufferedRWPair with the same underlying stream (that's the whole point of 
BufferedRWPair).

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[issue12191] Add shutil.chown to allow to use user and group name (and not only uid/gid)

2011-08-19 Thread Sandro Tosi

Sandro Tosi sandro.t...@gmail.com added the comment:

version 7 here we come :) I've addressed Eric's commenta on rietveld (all but 
one, I need input from him) and also updated the tests for new helper functions.

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[issue11564] pickle not 64-bit ready

2011-08-19 Thread Nadeem Vawda

Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com added the comment:

 Can you replace _2G with _4G in the decorator for that test?

I'm not at work any more, but I'll try that out on Monday.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

STINNER Victor wrote:
 
 STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment:
 
 It's really hard to follow this issue. I'm trying to sum up, please comment 
 my message if I'm wrong.
 
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 If I understood correctly, this issue has 3 remaining points:
 
 (1) Python 2.7 and 3.2: force sys.platform to 'linux2'? Votes:
 
 Antoine Pitrou: -1
 Victor Stinner: +0
 Martin von Gagern: +1
 Barry A. Warsaw: +1
 Martin v. Löwis: +1
 Marc-Andre Lemburg: +1

I voted -1 on this, not +1. For existing releases, we cannot change
the value of the sys variable and as explained this is not needed
either. IMHO, it's better to fix the few cases in Python that use
'linux2' to also include 'linux3' (either literally or via
.startswith()) and also add a plat-linux3/ dir.

 = total=+3 (6 votes)
 
 (2) Python 3.3: change sys.platform to 'linux'? Votes:
 
 Martin v. Löwis: +1
 Charles-François Natali: -1
 Amaury Forgeot d'Arc: -1
 Antoine Pitrou: -0 ?
 Victor Stinner: +1

I voted +1 on this one.

I also suggested to apply the version removal to all platforms,
not just Linux.

 = total=0 (5 votes)
 
 (3) Python 3.3: if point (2) is accepted, add a new variable providing more 
 information about the build platform
 
 --
 
 For the first point, it looks like most people agree to keep 'linux2' on 
 Linux 3 for Python 2.7 and 3.2. I converted Matthias Klose's patch 
 (msg140061) into a patch for Python 3.2: configure_linux2.python3.2.patch. If 
 this patch is accepted, changesets 69dd70e70cc8 (2.7) and 9e3b28a7898f (3.2) 
 have to be reverted (issue #12571).
 
 I prefer to do nothing for (1), but users usually prefer software that just 
 work. Example: see Arch Linux fiasco when they chose to use Python 3 for 
 /usr/bin/python. Some distro (Debian and Ubuntu?) will anyway use this 
 approach.
 
 --
 
 For the second point, there is no consensus.
 
 I changed my vote from -1 to +1 because... I would like to close the issue 
 (!) and I agree that I will easier to manipulate 'linux' instead of 'linux2' 
 or 'linux3' or 'linux4' or ... (we have such problem today with 
 freebsd2..freebsd8).
 
 --
 
 For the last point, point (3): I think that it would be easier to wait until 
 the point (2) is decided, because the point (3) depends on point (2).
 
 @Marc-Andre Lemburg: you might open a different issue (when point 2 will be 
 deciced)? I consider that it is a different topic because sysconfig already 
 contains requested informations and so it's more a new feature.

That would make sense, except that I view the removal of the
version and the addition of the compile time information as one
feature request. Moving this off to the sysconfig is not realistic
as mentioned before and the new variable doesn't really cost much
in terms maintenance, since it can be auto-generated by configure.

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[issue12786] subprocess wait() hangs when stdin is closed

2011-08-19 Thread Ben Wolfson

Ben Wolfson wolf...@gmail.com added the comment:

The guys at #python-dev confirmed the same happens on 2.7 but not on 3.x.

Really? This is on gentoo, not debian, admittedly:

coelacanth ~ 11:12:36 $ python3
Python 3.1.3 (r313:86834, May  1 2011, 09:41:48) 
[GCC 4.4.4] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import subprocess
 proc1 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
 proc2 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
 proc2.stdin.close()
 proc2.wait()
0
 



coelacanth ~ 11:12:13 $ python3.1
Python 3.1.3 (r313:86834, May  1 2011, 09:41:48) 
[GCC 4.4.4] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 import subprocess
 proc1 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
 proc2 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
 proc1.stdin.close()
 proc1.wait()

[hangs]

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[issue12778] JSON-serializing a large container takes too much memory

2011-08-19 Thread poq

poq p...@gmx.com added the comment:

 It would just need to call a given callable (fp.write) at regular intervals 
 and that would be enough to C-accelerate dump().

True, but that would just special case dump(), just like dumps() is 
special-cased now. Ideally JSONEncoder.iterencode() would be accelerated, so 
you wouldn't need any special cases. Or deprecate iterencode() and replace it 
with a callback interface...

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[issue12786] subprocess wait() hangs when stdin is closed

2011-08-19 Thread Charles-François Natali

Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:

Hello Idan,

 The following program hangs on Debian

Debian is a good choice :-)

Concerning your example, it hangs is because the file descriptor used
to communicate with proc1 is inherited when proc2 is created (FDs are
inherited upon fork by default): thus, when you call
proc1.stdin.close(), `cat` doesn't receive EOF on read(0), and remains
stuck.
If you close proc2's stdin and wait it first, then you don't have this problem:
- because it's been created after proc1, its stdin FD has not been inherited
- when you call proc2.stdin.close(), `cat` receives EOF from read(0), and exits

There are two reasons while it doesn't hang on Python 3.x:
1) it uses close_fds=True by default
2) it sets the pipe FDs CLOEXEC, so that they're closed when cat is `executed`

Try with

proc1 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE)
proc2 = subprocess.Popen(['cat'], stdin=subprocess.PIPE, close_fds=True)

proc1.stdin.close()
proc1.wait()


And you'll be fine.

We can't make the change 1) in 2.7, because that's a behavior change.
We could however set the FDs used to communicate with the children CLOEXEC.
I'll work on a patch for 2.7 (but it won't be thread-safe, because
pipe2 is not exposed and there's no _posixsubprocess.c like in 3.x).

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[issue12778] JSON-serializing a large container takes too much memory

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

  It would just need to call a given callable (fp.write) at regular
 intervals and that would be enough to C-accelerate dump().
 
 True, but that would just special case dump(), just like dumps() is
 special-cased now. Ideally JSONEncoder.iterencode() would be
 accelerated, so you wouldn't need any special cases. Or deprecate
 iterencode() and replace it with a callback interface...

Is iterencode() used much? I would think dump() and dumps() see the most
use.

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[issue12213] BufferedRandom, BufferedRWPair: issues with interlaced read-write

2011-08-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Here is a patch.

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[issue1626300] 'Installing Python Modules' does not work for Windows

2011-08-19 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

On my fresh install, double clicking *does* run the file as it should, but the 
window disappears immediately, erasing output and error tracebacks, unless one 
adds something like ``input(Hit Enter to quit) at the end of the script so 
the user can see any output.

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[issue12778] JSON-serializing a large container takes too much memory

2011-08-19 Thread poq

poq p...@gmx.com added the comment:

 Is iterencode() used much? I would think dump() and dumps() see the most use.

Of course. I'd just prefer an elegant  complete solution. But I agree 
accelerating just dump() would already be much better than the current 
situation.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Dave Malcolm

Dave Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com added the comment:

Note that PyPy is also affected by this issue; see 
https://bugs.pypy.org/issue832

For CPython, I'm of the opinion that:
  - the final digit of sys.platform as-is for linux* is effectively 
meaningless
  - that no code should be relying on the final digit of sys.platform 
(thankfully this is now recommended by: 
http://docs.python.org/library/sys.html#sys.platform )
  - unfortunately there is code out there that checks against linux2 and thus 
does rely on this value
  - patching CPython to force this to read linux2 may be necessary for some 
downstream distributors of Python, to maximize compatibility with such broken 
code.

For CPython, sys.platform currently reports on the difference between whether 
uname reported linux2 or linux3 at build time, which is currently meaningless 
(see msg142219 above about our chroot-ed build environment).

For example, in RHEL we may at some future time upgrade our build farm to linux 
3, but still provision our build trees within it for linux 2; this may mean 
that our build farm starts reporting linux3 when rebuilding security updates 
for python 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 or 2.6, even when building against kernel-2.*'s 
user-space.   If this happens, I'd be inclined to patch those builds of Python 
back to linux2.  It would be entirely meaningless and only damaging for one 
of our security updates of, say, Python 2.2 to shift sys.platform from linux2 
to linux3 simply because of the kernel that was running in the build 
environment (as opposed to the kernel headers exposed to the compiler, and 
other such aspects of the kernel exposed in user-space).

FWIW, my opinion is currently:
  - in 3.3, sys.platform on linux should be simply linux
  - for 2.7 and 3.2, sys.platform should be forced to linux2 (and indeed, I 
anticipate doing this for earlier releases that I still maintain downstream)
  - existing documentation should say that on linux, sys.platform begins with 
linux, and that programmers should avoid relying upon the suffix
  - I don't see the need for more adding access to more details of the build 
platform (and I can poke holes in any such plan, if anyone wants me to: what 
would it contain?  what about the case where the user-space files e.g. headers 
aren't the same as the uname?  etc)

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[issue12682] Meaning of 'accepted' resolution as documented in devguide

2011-08-19 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

Only if the issue is closed, so that it actually means 'fixed'.
Otherwise, just delete it.

The following data suggests to me that 'accepted' is a de facto synonym for 
'fixed' and therefore useless and might as well be removed.
N Issue category
3290  fixed
68  open
  3219  closed
 354  feature request (and closed)
 302  behavior
 126  other type
2437  type not specified
   346  documentation component (and type not specified)
   679  library component

The type field has been, at least in the past, greatly underused. But of the 
last 679, only 27 were in the last 3 years.

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[issue12713] argparse: allow abbreviation of sub commands by users

2011-08-19 Thread Christian Ziemski

Christian Ziemski cz...@gmx.de added the comment:

I just made such a change to Python 2.7's argparse.
If there is interest I'll post a patch here.

Unfortunately I can't find the description how to produce a proper patch.
The link I found (http://www.python.org/dev/patches/) gives an error 404.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

R. David Murray wrote:
 
 R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com added the comment:
 
 MAL wrote:
 
 As already mentioned, the diff between Linux 2.x and 3.x will
 grow over time and while there may not be much to see now,
 things will change in the coming years.
 
 The only way I can read this argument that makes any sense to me is that you 
 are arguing for a precise build-time OS string.  If it is supposed to be an 
 argument in favor of keeping 'linux3' it makes no sense, since '2' vs '3' is 
 in no way a useful line of demarcation when it comes to linux.

Indeed. See the sys.build_platform attribute we discussed.

 So, if you think there is a *run time* need to know the precise *build time* 
 OS version number, can you point to any specific use cases?

I already mentioned those use cases. Please see the ticket discussion.

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[issue12745] Python2 or Python3 page

2011-08-19 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

I agree with your sentiments about Python 2 while being aware that not all 
agree yet and that the current Wiki page was the result of some heated 
discussion and compromise. I also agree that the page could use 
tweaking/updating/rewriting. For one thing the supposed 2010 date in 
inconsistent with 3.2 being released.

Python 3 is the future of the language. kind of implies that it is not the 
current version of the language. I would change that to Python 3 is the 
present and future of the language

I might start with discussion of 3 rather that 2.

I am closing this simply because it is not about changing the CPython 
repository, which is what the tracker tracks. There is no way to attach and 
review a wiki diff here.

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[issue12786] subprocess wait() hangs when stdin is closed

2011-08-19 Thread Mads Kiilerich

Changes by Mads Kiilerich m...@kiilerich.com:


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[issue12682] Meaning of 'accepted' resolution as documented in devguide

2011-08-19 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 Martin, should we convert all the accepted to fixed before removing it?

That's not strictly necessary. It would only be retired (roundup does
not support true removal), and as such would then still show up in
issues that currently use it, but not show up elsewhere anymore.

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[issue12678] test_packaging and test_distutils failures under Windows

2011-08-19 Thread Georg Brandl

Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment:

This failure needs to be gone in time for 3.2.2. Please find an appropriate way 
to fix it, even if it is the temporary disabling of a faulty test.

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[issue12682] Meaning of 'accepted' resolution as documented in devguide

2011-08-19 Thread Ezio Melotti

Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:

OK, I removed the resolution and its documentation from the devguide in 
3f4710b6baf9.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Martin v . Löwis

Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:

 The only way I can read this argument that makes any sense to me is
 that you are arguing for a precise build-time OS string.  If it is
 supposed to be an argument in favor of keeping 'linux3' it makes no
 sense, since '2' vs '3' is in no way a useful line of demarcation
 when it comes to linux.

The build time Linux kernel has no effect on Python's build procedure
whatsoever. Python does not use the kernel at all for building; it
only uses the C library headers, and the kernel headers that happen
to be incorporated into the version of the C library installed. That
affects what features get selected during build time.

Notice that the proposed fix to keep os.platform to linux2 actually
means that there is *no change*, as os.platform always was linux2
on the system. It is a bug that it reports linux3 in some cases,
and that bug is being fixed.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Matthias Klose

Matthias Klose d...@debian.org added the comment:

 The build time Linux kernel has no effect on Python's build procedure
 whatsoever. Python does not use the kernel at all for building; it
 only uses the C library headers, and the kernel headers that happen
 to be incorporated into the version of the C library installed. That
 affects what features get selected during build time.

would be very nice, but unfortunately this is not true; the multiprocessing 
behavior depends on configure checks testing the running kernel.

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[issue12326] Linux 3: code should avoid using sys.platform == 'linux2'

2011-08-19 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg

Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment:

Martin v. Löwis wrote:
 
 Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de added the comment:
 
 The only way I can read this argument that makes any sense to me is
 that you are arguing for a precise build-time OS string.  If it is
 supposed to be an argument in favor of keeping 'linux3' it makes no
 sense, since '2' vs '3' is in no way a useful line of demarcation
 when it comes to linux.
 
 The build time Linux kernel has no effect on Python's build procedure
 whatsoever. Python does not use the kernel at all for building; it
 only uses the C library headers, and the kernel headers that happen
 to be incorporated into the version of the C library installed. That
 affects what features get selected during build time.

That last sentence contradicts the first one. In any case, you're right:
the OS build version does affect the Python build. And not only on
Linux, but on all OSes Python runs on.

That said, the changes on Linux that affect Python are minimal compared
to what other vendors do for even minor OS releases, e.g. Apple with
Mac OS X.

 Notice that the proposed fix to keep os.platform to linux2 actually
 means that there is *no change*, as os.platform always was linux2
 on the system. It is a bug that it reports linux3 in some cases,
 and that bug is being fixed.

There are Linux 2.x systems out there that report sys.platform ==
'linux3' ? :-)

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[issue12786] subprocess wait() hangs when stdin is closed

2011-08-19 Thread Charles-François Natali

Charles-François Natali neolo...@free.fr added the comment:

Here's a patch + test for 2.7.

 Really? This is on gentoo, not debian, admittedly:

That's because the change of close_fds to True by default and the CLOEXEC flag 
were added in 3.2.
Since 3.1 is in security-fix mode only, this patch is only relevant to 2.7.

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nosy: +haypo
stage:  - patch review
versions:  -Python 2.6
Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file22951/subprocess_cloexec.diff

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[issue12753] \N{...} neglects formal aliases and named sequences from Unicode charnames namespace

2011-08-19 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy tjre...@udel.edu added the comment:

I verified that the test file raises the quoted SyntaxError on 3.2 on Win7. 
This:

 \N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GHA}
SyntaxError: (unicode error) 'unicodeescape' codec can't decode bytes in 
position 0-27: unknown Unicode character name

is most likely a result of this:

 unicodedata.lookup(LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GHA)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File pyshell#1, line 1, in module
unicodedata.lookup(LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GHA)
KeyError: undefined character name 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GHA'

Although the lookup comes first in nametests.py, it is never executed because 
of the later SyntaxError.

The Reference for string literals says 
\N{name} Character named name in the Unicode database

The doc for unicodedata says
This module provides access to the Unicode Character Database (UCD) which 
defines character properties for all Unicode characters. The data contained in 
this database is compiled from the UCD version 6.0.0.

The module uses the same names and symbols as defined by Unicode Standard Annex 
#44, “Unicode Character Database”. 
http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr44/tr44-6.html

So the question is, what are the 'names' therein defined?
All such should be valid inputs to 
unicodedata.lookup(name) Look up character by name.

The annex refers to http://www.unicode.org/Public/6.0.0/ucd/
This contains NamesList.txt, derived from UnicodeData.txt. Unicodedata must be 
using just the latter. The ucd directory also contains NameAliases.txt, 
NamedSequences.txt, and the file of provisional named sequences.

As best I can tell, the annex plus files are a bit ambiguous as to  'Unicode 
character name'. The following quote seems neutral: the Unicode Character 
Database (UCD), a collection of data files which contain the Unicode character 
code points and character names. The following: Unicode character names 
constitute a special case. Formally, they are values of the Name property. 
points toward UnicodeData.txt, which lists the Name property along with others. 
However, Unicode character name, as published in the Unicode names list, 
indirectly points toward including aliases. NamesList.txt says it contains the 
Final Unicode 6.0 names list. (but one which should not be parsed for 
machine-readable information. It includes all 11 aliases in NameAliases.txt. 

My current opinion is that adding the aliases might be done in current 
releases. It certainly would serve the any user who does not know to misspell 
'FTHORA' as 'FHTORA' for just one of the 17 'FTHORA' chars.

Adding named sequences is definitely a feature request. The definition of 
.lookup(name) would be enlarged to Look up character by name, alias, or named 
sequence with reference to the specific files. The meaning of \N{} would also 
have to be enlarged.

Minimal test code might be:

from unicodedata import lookup
AssertEqual(lookup(LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GHA)), \u01a2)
AssertEqual(lookup(LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH MACRON AND GRAVE),
   \u0100\u0300)
plus a test that \N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER GHA} and
\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH MACRON AND GRAVE} compile without error (I 
have no idea how to write that).

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 If you look at the ICU UCharacter class, you can see that they provide a 
 more

More what ;-)
I presume ICU =International Components for Unicode, icu-project.org/
Offers a portable set of C/C++ and Java libraries for Unicode support, 
software internationalization (I18N) and globalization (G11N).
[appears to be free, open source, and possibly usable within Python]

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[issue12772] fractional day attribute in datetime class

2011-08-19 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com added the comment:

You can easily get the fractional day value using existing functionality:


 from datetime import *
 (datetime(2011,8,15,18,30) -  datetime(2011,8,13,12,0)) / timedelta(1)
2.27083335
 (datetime(2011,8,15,18,30) -  datetime(1970,1,1)) / timedelta(1)
15201.77083334

In some sense this request is a duplicate of issue2736.

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