[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: I do think it would be unfortunately to not go a little further though - just because we can do better with little effort, we can save a few CPU cycles which means saving time, money and all of this can only be good for the planet. ;-) Gawain, Programmer cycles matter too. :-) Code clarity, especially in the Python core, is valued (at least by me) very highly---for all the usual reasons: readability, maintainability, fewer places for bugs to hide. Verifying the correctness of the shorter version of int_to_decimal_string takes significantly less time, for me, than verifying the longer version. Of course, that's probably partly because I wrote it, but I'd guess that it's still true for an independent viewer. For example, Tim Peters has been heard to say that if he did this all over again, he probably wouldn't have added Karatsuba multplication: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-November/083355.html It's not easy deciding where to draw the line, but for me, this particular tiny speed gain (12.5% on a microbenchmark isn't really that significant) just isn't worth this particular (also tiny, admittedly) complexity gain. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Gawain Bolton gp.bol...@computer.org added the comment: Here's a modified version of the patch to Objects/intobject.c which __does__ use the two-digits-at-a-time optimization. Compared to the int_decimal_conversion_trunk.patch, my tests show a further 12.5% improvement with two digit numbers - positive or negative and more than 8% overall using different sizes all the way up to sys.maxint. I admit, there is a slight increase in code complexity. However, I disagree that the optimization is machine/compiler dependent as there are fundamentally half as many divisions. I hope I don't come across as unappreciative, on the contrary the fundamental ideas is to special case base 10 conversions and get a speed boost by leveraging the compiler and the int_decimal_conversion_trunk.patch does this nicely. I do think it would be unfortunately to not go a little further though - just because we can do better with little effort, we can save a few CPU cycles which means saving time, money and all of this can only be good for the planet. ;-) -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file14935/int_decimal_conversion_trunk.patch2 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: The now unused arbitrary base conversion was removed in r74910 (py3k). I'm deliberately going to leave it in in the trunk, just in case there's third party code that's using _PyLong_Format. (There shouldn't be, given the '_Py' prefix, but you never know.) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: Here's a patch for trunk's Objects/intobject.c. With this patch, I'm seeing more than 100% speed increases for str(sys.maxint) on OS X 10.6 (64-bit) and more modest speed gains on OS X 10.5 (32-bit). I'm leaving out the two-digits-at-a-time optimization. It *does* give a small speed gain on my machine, but IMO it's not enough of a gain to justify the extra code complexity; it also seems like one of those optimizations whose value might be highly machine/compiler-dependent. I'll apply this in a few days' time. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file14924/int_decimal_conversion_trunk.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: Updated patch, with minor changes: - remove an incorrect Py_DECREF(str) - rename _PyLong_ToDecimal; no need for the _Py prefix, since this function isn't shared across files - absorb special case for 0 into the rest of the code - whitespace and indentation fixes Not that it matters much, but it's curious that on my machine (gcc-4.2, OS X 10.6.1, x64-64) it's significantly faster (~6% increase in str() speed for large integers) to use the line: pout[j] = z - (twodigits)hi * _PyLong_DECIMAL_BASE; in the middle of the inner loop, rather than the line: pout[j] = z - hi * _PyLong_DECIMAL_BASE; I'm wondering whether this is just a quirk of my OS/compiler combination, or whether there's a good reason for this difference. The lines are functionally equivalent, since the result is reduced modulo 2**32 either way, but the first line involves a 32x32-64 multiplication and a 64-bit subtraction, where the second involves a 32x32-32 multiplication and a 32-bit subtraction; the generated assembly code for the second line is also one instruction shorter (there's a move opcode saved somewhere). -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file14902/long_decimal_conversion_py3k_2.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: Applied long_decimal_conversion_py3k_2.patch in r74851; backported to trunk in r74853. Still to do: - look at the 'two-digits-at-a-time' optimization. - rip out the non-binary-base code from _PyLong_Format While we're at it, it would also be good to look at the decimal string - integer conversion, but I think that's a separate issue. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: Barring objections, I plan to apply the 'long_decimal_conversion_py3k' patch to the py3k branch; I'll then backport to trunk. This patch doesn't include Gawain's two-decimal-digits-at-a-time optimization; after I've applied the patch, I'll have another look at that. This would leave the non-binary-base code in _PyLong_Format unused. I'll hold off on removing that code until the python-ideas thread on arbitrary- base int - string conversions has reached a conclusion. -- keywords: +patch Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file14884/long_decimal_conversion_py3k.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
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[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Gawain Bolton gp.bol...@computer.org added the comment: Mark, I haven't tried your latest patch but I tried your patch3 and obtained the same performance improvement for long integers, namely 3.1x faster. This is truly an excellent improvement, my hat's off to you! As for the basic integers, I'm working on another patch which improves performance even more but by all means, go ahead with your improvement for long integers. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
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[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: If you're working with huge integers and care about speed, then you should probably be using gmpy or similar I disagree with you, mark. The patch is around 20 lines and does optimize all cases, not only the huge integers. See my benchmark: conversion for small integers (type 'int') are also faster (7 to 22%). I think that the base 10 is more common than 2^k bases, and a conversion from integer to decimal string is a very common operation in Python. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Collin Winter coll...@gmail.com added the comment: I ran this patch against Unladen Swallow's slowspitfire template benchmark, which does more int-string conversions than any of our other benchmarks. When run against Python trunk r74737, I get these results: slowspitfire: Min: 0.888772 - 0.867427: 2.46% faster Avg: 0.891857 - 0.872461: 2.22% faster Significant (t=45.532127, a=0.95) (./perf.py -r -b slowspitfire ../a/python.exe ../b/python.exe) This was an idle MacBook Pro, OS X 10.5.8, Apple gcc 4.0.1, 2.4 GHz Core Duo. Other benchmarks benefit, but are only barely statistically significant. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: Thanks for those results, Collin. By benchmark should be reproduced on a 64 bits CPU with 2^15 and 2^30 bases for the long type. On OS X 10.6 (64-bit Python non-debug non-framework build with gcc 4.2 from Apple, 30-bit long digits, straight ./configure make), Victor's benchmark gives me the following results: original = 1023.9 ms (best of 10 runs) patched = 1005.3 ms (best of 10 runs). - a speedup of about 1.85%. So it looks as though x86_64 doesn't benefit to the same extent that 32-bit does. Presumably that's because gcc-4.2 is unable or unwilling to turn a 64-bit by 64-bit division with a constant dividend of 10**9 into a multiplication; I don't know whether using a later gcc would make a difference. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: Sorry: ignore that last message; I was talking through my hat. I think I must have been unwittingly building in debug mode. Ahem. After a 'make distclean', I get the following results (same specs as above, on a 2.53Ghz MacBook Pro / Core 2 Duo). original: 783.8 ms patched: 373.5 ms (2.1 x faster) patch 2: 323.7 ms (2.4 x faster) patch 2 (attached) is Gawain's original patch, but with the base != 2,8,10,16 code removed and the call to _inplace_divrem1 inlined and slightly reorganized. (No changes to intobject.c.) -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file14872/base10_conversion_performance_patch2.txt ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: One more iteration of the patch is attached: I rewrote the conversion algorithm to do the base PyLong_BASE to base 10**e conversion first, then output the base 10**e array as individual digits. For OS X/Intel, this seems to speed things up significantly. (First three values below are the same as before.) OS X 10.6, 64-bit build of Python, 30-bit digits: original: 783.8 ms patch 1: 373.5 ms (2.1 x faster) patch 2: 323.7 ms (2.4 x faster) patch 3: 250.1 ms (3.1 x faster) For OS X 10.5, 32-bit build of Python with 15-bit digits, on the same platform as above, I get the following timings: original: 2045.1 ms patch 1 : 1052.2 ms (1.94 x faster) patch 2 : 1228.7 ms (1.66 x faster) patch 3 : 725.8 ms (2.82 x faster) -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file14875/base10_conversion_performance_patch3.txt ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: I don't understand the following comment in patch3: /* convert: base 2 in pin - base 10 in pout */ I think that pin base is 2^30 / 2^15 and pout base is 10^9 / 10 ^ 4, not 10. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Gawain Bolton gp.bol...@computer.org added the comment: Yes I agree it would be a good idea to have one definition and one instantiation of the _decimal_digit_table[] and BitLengthTable[32] arrays. Where do you suggest these tables could be put? I'll be happy to provide an updated patch if you can let me know. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
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[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: I'm a bit ambivalent about this patch: I'd like to see string to integer conversions improved, and on the surface it makes sense to special-case base 10 conversions (just as power-of-two bases are already special- cased), but this seems like quite a lot of extra code to debug and maintain just to speed up one aspect of the integer implementation. It would be easy to grow longobject.c by several thousand lines by adding a handful of optimizations of this type. If you're working with huge integers and care about speed, then you should probably be using gmpy or similar (or something other than Python). And this patch doesn't solve the real problem with converting huge integers to and from decimal strings, which is that the algorithms used have quadratic running time. Amongst quadratic-time algorithms, I'm tempted to call Python's implementation 'good enough'. Gawain, do you have a particular use-case in mind for this optimization? Are there common applications where string - int conversion times are critical? -- versions: +Python 3.2 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: On the other hand, _PyLong_Format currently contains general machinery for integer - string conversion in any base in the range [2, 36], but I don't think that machinery is ever used for bases other than 2, 8, 10 and 16. So ripping _PyLong_Format out and just leaving the binary base and the suggested base 10 code might actually make longobject.c shorter. I'd be interested to know how much the conversion of two digits at one time instead of one is contributing to the speedup by itself. For large integers, I'd suspect that this makes very little difference. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
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[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
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[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: Would it be possible to share some constant data between intobject.c and longobject.c? There is already static const unsigned char BitLengthTable[32] (32 bytes), and the patch introduces static const char _decimal_digit_table[] (100 bytes). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: By benchmark should be reproduced on a 64 bits CPU with 2^15 and 2^30 bases for the long type. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
STINNER Victor victor.stin...@haypocalc.com added the comment: I wrote a dummy script to generate a big number (2568 decimal digits, 8530 bits) and then benchmark str(n). Results on my computer: Python 2.7a0, Pentium4 @ 3.0 GHz (32 bits), long base=2^15 Smallest value of 5 runs: original = 5046.8 ms patched = 2032.4 ms For huge numbers, the patch is much (60%) faster. -- Small integer (type=int) : n=factorial(10) (22 bits, 7 decimal digits) with 10 loops. original = 861.7 ms patched = 639.2 ms It's also faster (26%). -- And with n=1 (1 bit, 1 decimal digit), type=int : original = 606.7 patched = 561.6 It's a little bit faster (7%) with the patch. I don't see any performance regression, only good improvements: 60% faster to huge numbers. -- nosy: +haypo ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
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[issue6713] Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions
New submission from Gawain Bolton gp.bol...@computer.org: Converting integer long types to their ASCII representation is a task which can be quite CPU intensive due to the division modulo operations. For long integers having hundreds or thousands of digits, this can take a truly significant amount of CPU time. I have written a special case for base 10 conversions which allows for two improvements. 1) Two digits can be converted at a time, thus reducing the number of div/mod operations by two. 2) An optimizing compiler can avoid performing a division operation when the divisor is hardcoded. The expensive division operation can be replaced by a much faster multiplication operation. My tests show an improvement of 1.6x to 1.8x improvement for integer types and 2x improvement for longs. Note that because integers are displayed using fprintf(), the performance improvement is only seen when __repr__() is called. Patch is provided against trunk. It is somewhat difficult to read the patch in one or two places due to the use of tabs. -- components: Interpreter Core files: base10_conversion_performance_patch.txt messages: 91636 nosy: gawain severity: normal status: open title: Integer Long types: Performance improvement of 1.6x to 2x for base 10 conversions type: performance versions: Python 2.7 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file14736/base10_conversion_performance_patch.txt ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue6713 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
