Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
Thanks Mariatta!

It would also be nice if we gave new committers a task along the lines of
"mentor one woman or other person of diversity through their first
non-trivial PR". (If the new committer is not comfortable actually merging
the PR they can ask a more experienced core dev to do that -- after all new
core devs are supposed to be mentored themselves by a more experienced core
dev.)

Even nicer would be if *every* core dev made a commitment to "sponsor" at
least one person of diversity. I understand not everyone has the time. But
perhaps *some* core devs will volunteer! Increasing the core's diversity is
a very important goal to ensure the future health of Python.

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Mariatta Wijaya 
wrote:

> Part of the new core dev initiation should be watching this talk, titled
> "What is a Python Core Developer?" https://youtu.be/hhj7eb6TrtI
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018, 11:35 AM Guido van Rossum  wrote:
>
>> Let's stop the email barrage, Mark is in. Can someone tell Mark what to
>> do?
>>
>>


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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-15 Thread Mariatta Wijaya
Part of the new core dev initiation should be watching this talk, titled
"What is a Python Core Developer?" https://youtu.be/hhj7eb6TrtI

On Tue, May 15, 2018, 11:35 AM Guido van Rossum  wrote:

> Let's stop the email barrage, Mark is in. Can someone tell Mark what to do?
>
>
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-15 Thread Guido van Rossum
Let's stop the email barrage, Mark is in. Can someone tell Mark what to do?

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Victor Stinner 
wrote:

> 2018-05-14 16:41 GMT-04:00 Larry Hastings :
> > Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python,
> writing
> > both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and was
> > listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the
> > "What's New?" document.
> >
> > We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
> > developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like
> our
> > antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev
> > workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting
> the
> > commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
> >
> > I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be
> surprised
> > at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean Mark
> > *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
>
> Wait. Mark is already a core dev, right? I don't understand your email :-)
>
> +1, obvisouly.
>
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Victor Stinner
2018-05-14 16:41 GMT-04:00 Larry Hastings :
> Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, writing
> both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and was
> listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the
> "What's New?" document.
>
> We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
> developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like our
> antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev
> workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting the
> commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
>
> I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be surprised
> at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean Mark
> *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.

Wait. Mark is already a core dev, right? I don't understand your email :-)

+1, obvisouly.

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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Christian Heimes
On 2018-05-14 16:41, Larry Hastings wrote:
> 
> 
> Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python,
> writing both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3
> and was listed as one of the top features of that release as according
> to the "What's New?" document.
> 
> We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
> developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like
> our antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core
> dev workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in
> accepting the commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
> 
> I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be
> surprised at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you
> mean Mark *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
>

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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Łukasz Langa
+1

-- 
Best regards,
Łukasz Langa

> On May 14, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Larry Hastings  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, writing 
> both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and was 
> listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the "What's 
> New?" document.
> 
> We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core 
> developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like our 
> antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev 
> workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting the 
> commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
> 
> I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be surprised 
> at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean Mark 
> *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
> 
> 
> Submitted for your consideration,
> 
> 
> /arry
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Yury Selivanov
+1

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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Carol Willing
+1

On Mon, May 14, 2018, 6:47 PM INADA Naoki  wrote:

> +1
>
> 2018年5月15日(火) 6:55 Ivan Levkivskyi :
>
>> +1
>>
>> Yes, I actually thought he is a core dev for ages :-)
>>
>
> Me too.
>
>
>> --
>> Ivan
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 May 2018 at 17:42, Eric Snow  wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> -eric
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Larry Hastings 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python,
>>> writing
>>> > both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and
>>> was
>>> > listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the
>>> > "What's New?" document.
>>> >
>>> > We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
>>> > developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't
>>> like our
>>> > antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev
>>> > workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting
>>> the
>>> > commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
>>> >
>>> > I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be
>>> surprised
>>> > at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean
>>> Mark
>>> > *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Submitted for your consideration,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > /arry
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

14.05.18 23:41, Larry Hastings пише:

Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, 
writing both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 
3.3 and was listed as one of the top features of that release as 
according to the "What's New?" document.


We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core 
developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't 
like our antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the 
git-based core dev workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now 
interested in accepting the commit bit and the responsibilities that 
it entails.


I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be 
surprised at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of 
"you mean Mark *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.


+1 from me. I always wondered why he is not a core developer.

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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread INADA Naoki
+1

2018年5月15日(火) 6:55 Ivan Levkivskyi :

> +1
>
> Yes, I actually thought he is a core dev for ages :-)
>

Me too.


> --
> Ivan
>
>
>
> On 14 May 2018 at 17:42, Eric Snow  wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Larry Hastings 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python,
>> writing
>> > both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and was
>> > listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the
>> > "What's New?" document.
>> >
>> > We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
>> > developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like
>> our
>> > antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev
>> > workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting
>> the
>> > commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
>> >
>> > I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be
>> surprised
>> > at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean Mark
>> > *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
>> >
>> >
>> > Submitted for your consideration,
>> >
>> >
>> > /arry
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Paul Moore
+1 from me :-)

On 14 May 2018 at 21:41, Larry Hastings  wrote:
>
>
> Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, writing
> both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and was
> listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the
> "What's New?" document.
>
> We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
> developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like our
> antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev
> workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting the
> commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
>
> I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be surprised
> at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean Mark
> *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
>
>
> Submitted for your consideration,
>
>
> /arry
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
+1

On Mon, May 14, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Larry Hastings wrote:
> 
> 
> Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, 
> writing both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 
> and was listed as one of the top features of that release as according 
> to the "What's New?" document.
> 
> We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core 
> developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like 
> our antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core 
> dev workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in 
> accepting the commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
> 
> I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be 
> surprised at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you 
> mean Mark *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
> 
> 
> Submitted for your consideration,
> 
> 
> //arry/
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Ivan Levkivskyi
+1

Yes, I actually thought he is a core dev for ages :-)

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On 14 May 2018 at 17:42, Eric Snow  wrote:

> +1
>
> -eric
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Larry Hastings 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python,
> writing
> > both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and was
> > listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the
> > "What's New?" document.
> >
> > We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
> > developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like
> our
> > antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev
> > workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting
> the
> > commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
> >
> > I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be
> surprised
> > at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean Mark
> > *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
> >
> >
> > Submitted for your consideration,
> >
> >
> > /arry
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Eric Snow
+1

-eric

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Larry Hastings  wrote:
>
>
> Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, writing
> both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 and was
> listed as one of the top features of that release as according to the
> "What's New?" document.
>
> We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core
> developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like our
> antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core dev
> workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting the
> commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.
>
> I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be surprised
> at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you mean Mark
> *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.
>
>
> Submitted for your consideration,
>
>
> /arry
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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Ethan Furman

On 05/14/2018 01:41 PM, Larry Hastings wrote:


Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, writing 
both the PEP and the implementation.  This
shipped in Python 3.3 and was listed as one of the top features of that release as 
according to the "What's New?" document.

We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core 
developer--and he actually said no.  At the time
he said he didn't like our antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the 
git-based core dev workflow, this
objection is gone, and he's now interested in accepting the commit bit and the 
responsibilities that it entails.


+1

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Re: [python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Tim Peters
+1
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[python-committers] Proposing Mark Shannon to be a core developer

2018-05-14 Thread Larry Hastings



Dr. Mark Shannon contributed the "key sharing dictionary" to Python, 
writing both the PEP and the implementation.  This shipped in Python 3.3 
and was listed as one of the top features of that release as according 
to the "What's New?" document.


We've asked Mark in the past if he'd be interested in becoming a core 
developer--and he actually said no.  At the time he said he didn't like 
our antiquated workflow.  Now that we've switched to the git-based core 
dev workflow, this objection is gone, and he's now interested in 
accepting the commit bit and the responsibilities that it entails.


I suspect you, my colleagues in CPython core development, will be 
surprised at the current state of affairs.  I'm expecting a load of "you 
mean Mark *isn't* a core developer yet?" replies.



Submitted for your consideration,


//arry/
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