Re: [python-committers] Deny nonbreaking spaces in the precommit script?

2010-11-08 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 12:22 +, Michael Foord wrote:
> On 08/11/2010 12:18, Ɓukasz Langa wrote:
> > Am 08.11.2010 12:55, schrieb Michael Foord:
> >> On 08/11/2010 11:42, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> >>> We can just customize our environments. It is easy.
> >
> > I already pointed out in my last post why that's not going to solve 
> > the problem.
> >
> >> Additional checks could be put in `make patchcheck` or a local commit 
> >> hook for hg.
> >
> > Automation always pays off. Simplifying the process always pays off. 
> > Providing yet another step to the workflow would be a move in the 
> > opposite direction*.
> 
> You mean `make patchcheck` isn't *already* part of your workflow?

FWIW, "make patchcheck" isn't mentioned on the "Python Patch Submission
Guidelines" here:
  http://www.python.org/dev/patches/
and doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere on the website.

I'm attaching a patch (to the website) that adds this to that page.

(snip)
Index: data/dev/patches/content.ht
===
--- data/dev/patches/content.ht	(revision 13459)
+++ data/dev/patches/content.ht	(working copy)
@@ -40,6 +40,13 @@
   or documentation; it's better to use the same issue and
   keep all discussion in one place.
 
+* Please run "make patchcheck" before submitting your patch.  This is a
+  checklist of common issues with patches.  It will try to enforce whitespace
+  rules in the files you changed.  It will also remind you to run the test
+  suite, and remind you if you haven't edited the documentation, ``Misc/ACKS``
+  or ``Misc/NEWS``.
+
+
 Python Patch Style Guidelines
 -
 
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Re: [python-committers] Python Language Summit at PyCon US

2012-02-06 Thread David Malcolm
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 13:04 +, Michael Foord wrote:
> Hello Python Committers,
> 
> As usual we will hold a Python Language Summit before the PyCon US conference.
[...]
> If you have topics you would like to see on the agenda please also let me 
> know.

I sincerely hope that we'll have secured the various python runtimes
against hash collision denial-of-service attacks by the time of the
language summit, but if not, we probably ought to talk about the issue
then.

Thanks
Dave

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Re: [python-committers] List Linux distribution maintainers to help with bug triaging?

2012-04-25 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 11:55 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> While helping to diagnose what appears to be a Fedora/RHEL specific
> problem with distutils, it occurred to me that it may be useful for
> triaging that kind of distribution specific problem if distro package
> maintainers (or at least points of contact) were listed in the experts
> file in the devguide: http://docs.python.org/devguide/experts
> 
> What do people think of the idea of adding specific distros (e.g.
> "Linux (Fedora/RHEL)", "Linux (Ubuntu)") to the "Platforms" table for
> cases related to building and packaging where it may not be clear if
> the problem lies within CPython or within the distro?

Feel free to add me for "Linux (Fedora/RHEL)".

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Re: [python-committers] PyCon Language Summit: Wednesday 9th April

2013-12-04 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 12:28 -0800, Eli Bendersky wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, M.-A. Lemburg  wrote:
> On 04.12.2013 20:07, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> > 2013/12/4 Barry Warsaw :
> >> On Dec 04, 2013, at 07:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> >>
> >>> As for the question, I think we should wait at least two
> or three years
> >>> before "sunsetting" 2.7.
> >>
> >> I've been thinking we should move Python 2.7 to
> security-fix only around the
> >> Python 3.5 time frame, with a couple more years of promised
> security support.
> >
> > FWIW, the current plan is to have the last normal release in
> 2015 and
> > security releases "indefinitely" (2020 or something like
> that).
> 
> 
> Just as data point: we have customers that still request
> Python 2.4
> compatible versions of our products - simply because they
> cannot
> upgrade. The last release of that series was in 2008.
> 
> 
> I was always curious about these "cannot upgrade" cases. Most of the
> time, they seem to boil down to "because that's the default Python our
> RHEL comes with", completely ignoring the possiblity of just building
> a newer Python locally and/or carrying along with the product.

FWIW Red Hat also now has a RH-supported way of running more recent
versions of Python on RHEL:
http://developerblog.redhat.com/2013/09/12/rhscl1-ga/

though I believe that's only supported on RHEL6 onwards (giving 2.7 and
3.3. on RHEL6).

Doesn't help on RHEL 5 (which is still 2.4), though there are
(unsupported) srpms available for later releases there.


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