Re: [Python-Dev] Mail archive line wrapping (Was: Import and unicode: part two)

2011-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11:59 AM, James Y Knight wrote:
 
 Well, yes, that's a pretty annoying bug in mailman, isn't it? If only anyone 
 around here was involved in mailman and could fix it! :) [I've attempted to 
 cc this to mailman-users with this message, but since I'm not subscribed I 
 dunno if it'll make it or not.]
 
 I have this in my user CSS override file to fix the issue for myself globally 
 on all such archives out in the world:
 /* Mailing list archives */
 htmlbodypre { white-space: pre-wrap !important; }
 
 But really, pipermail should just output a suitable style itself, e.g.: pre 
 style=hite-space: pre-wrap or a stylepre { white-space: pre-wrap; 
 }/style in the header.


This is mailman bug 266467
https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266467. It was fixed in
Mailman 2.1.13.

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[Python-Dev] web framework for py3k

2011-01-22 Thread yeswanth
I would want to help porting some web framework for py3k .. I want to 
know to know which one is good and which can be ported easily . Also i 
would require some guidance for this work as I am just a beginner here ..


Thanks
Yeswanth
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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88140 - in python/branches/py3k: Misc/NEWS Modules/zipimport.c

2011-01-22 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:30 AM, victor.stinner
python-check...@python.org wrote:
..
 zipimport uses ASCII encoding instead of *cp497* to decode filenames, ..

Shouldn't this be instead of *cp437*?
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Re: [Python-Dev] web framework for py3k

2011-01-22 Thread Terry Reedy

On 1/22/2011 1:16 PM, yeswanth wrote:

In general, this list is for development of Python, CPython, and its 
stdlib, not 3rd party modules.



I would want to help porting some web framework for py3k ..


The target of any such efforts should be 3.2 as it has changes intended 
to help web programming.



I want to know to know which one is good  and which can be ported easily


Opinions will depend on the person. Such questions might be better asked 
on Python list or the specialized web-sig list, where there are more 
people involved with web frameworks. Most frameworks have their own 
lists. Some can be accessed as newsgroups at news.gmane.org in the 
gmane.comp.python hierarchy.


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[Python-Dev] What's new 2.x in 3.x docs.

2011-01-22 Thread Terry Reedy
The 3.x docs mostly started fresh with 3.0. The major exception is the 
What's new section, which goes back to 2.0. The 2.x stuff comprises 
about 650KB in the repository and whatever that translates into in the 
distribution. I cannot imagine that anyone who only has 3.x and no 2.x 
version would have any interest in the 2.x history. And of course, the 
complete 2.x history will always be available with the latest 2.7.z. And 
the cover page for 3.x could even say so and include a link. So why not 
remove it from the 3.2 release (and have two separate pages for the 
online version)?


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Re: [Python-Dev] What's new 2.x in 3.x docs.

2011-01-22 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:04:00 -0500
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
 The 3.x docs mostly started fresh with 3.0. The major exception is the 
 What's new section, which goes back to 2.0. The 2.x stuff comprises 
 about 650KB in the repository and whatever that translates into in the 
 distribution. I cannot imagine that anyone who only has 3.x and no 2.x 
 version would have any interest in the 2.x history. And of course, the 
 complete 2.x history will always be available with the latest 2.7.z. And 
 the cover page for 3.x could even say so and include a link. So why not 
 remove it from the 3.2 release (and have two separate pages for the 
 online version)?

Well, is there any point in doing so, apart from saving 650KB in the
repository? I'm not sure we care about the latter (right now the
whole source tree is more than 50MB, and that's without version
control information).

Regards

Antoine.


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Re: [Python-Dev] Triagers and checkin access to the devguide repository

2011-01-22 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 18:35, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Given that some of the dev guide docs cover triaging and other aspects
 of managing issues on the tracker, does it make sense to offer
 devguide checkin access to triagers that want it?


There are enough triagers with commit privileges that this is probably
not needed.

-Brett

 Regards,
 Nick.

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Re: [Python-Dev] What's new 2.x in 3.x docs.

2011-01-22 Thread Raymond Hettinger

On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:

 The 3.x docs mostly started fresh with 3.0. The major exception is the What's 
 new section, which goes back to 2.0. The 2.x stuff comprises about 650KB in 
 the repository and whatever that translates into in the distribution. I 
 cannot imagine that anyone who only has 3.x and no 2.x version would have any 
 interest in the 2.x history. And of course, the complete 2.x history will 
 always be available with the latest 2.7.z. And the cover page for 3.x could 
 even say so and include a link. So why not remove it from the 3.2 release 
 (and have two separate pages for the online version)?

I think there is value in the older whatsnew docs.  The provide a readable 
introduction to various features and nicely augment the plain docs which can be 
a little dry.

+1 for keeping the links as-is.  Removing them takes away a resource and gains 
nothing.


Raymond


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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r88140 - in python/branches/py3k: Misc/NEWS Modules/zipimport.c

2011-01-22 Thread Victor Stinner
Le samedi 22 janvier 2011 à 13:25 -0500, Alexander Belopolsky a écrit :
  zipimport uses ASCII encoding instead of *cp497* to decode filenames, ..
 
 Shouldn't this be instead of *cp437*?

Woops, correct: fixed in r88145.

Victor

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[Python-Dev] Beta version of the new devguide

2011-01-22 Thread Brett Cannon
http://docs.python.org/devguide/

If you are a core developer and have a correction you want to make you
can simply check out the devguide yourself (link is in the Resources
section of the devguide) and make the corrections yourself. Otherwise
reply here (you can email me directly but I already have instances of
multiple people telling me about the same spelling mistake so it's
nice to have it public so people know when I have been informed).

As for what is left to do, there are a a few things. One is fixing
some issues to allow test coverage to be run for the entire test suite
(see the coverage docs to know what issues are tracking the problems).
I will work on this next if no one beats me to it as both issues
should be relatively simple to do.

Two, what should the final URL be? Georg picked the current one and I
am happy with it.

Three, where should it be linked from? docs.python.org homepage?

Four, what to do with www.python.org/dev/? Redirect for all the pages?

Otherwise I consider the devguide ready to go. My next thing will be
an official HOWTO on dealing with Python 2/3 porting/maintenance.
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Re: [Python-Dev] Beta version of the new devguide

2011-01-22 Thread Brett Cannon
And I forgot to mention I also plan to edit the help text on the
various fields on the issue tracker to point to the triaging doc.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 17:08, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
 http://docs.python.org/devguide/

 If you are a core developer and have a correction you want to make you
 can simply check out the devguide yourself (link is in the Resources
 section of the devguide) and make the corrections yourself. Otherwise
 reply here (you can email me directly but I already have instances of
 multiple people telling me about the same spelling mistake so it's
 nice to have it public so people know when I have been informed).

 As for what is left to do, there are a a few things. One is fixing
 some issues to allow test coverage to be run for the entire test suite
 (see the coverage docs to know what issues are tracking the problems).
 I will work on this next if no one beats me to it as both issues
 should be relatively simple to do.

 Two, what should the final URL be? Georg picked the current one and I
 am happy with it.

 Three, where should it be linked from? docs.python.org homepage?

 Four, what to do with www.python.org/dev/? Redirect for all the pages?

 Otherwise I consider the devguide ready to go. My next thing will be
 an official HOWTO on dealing with Python 2/3 porting/maintenance.

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Re: [Python-Dev] What's new 2.x in 3.x docs.

2011-01-22 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:

 The 3.x docs mostly started fresh with 3.0. The major exception is the 
 What's new section, which goes back to 2.0. The 2.x stuff comprises about 
 650KB in the repository and whatever that translates into in the 
 distribution. I cannot imagine that anyone who only has 3.x and no 2.x 
 version would have any interest in the 2.x history. And of course, the 
 complete 2.x history will always be available with the latest 2.7.z. And the 
 cover page for 3.x could even say so and include a link. So why not remove 
 it from the 3.2 release (and have two separate pages for the online version)?

 I think there is value in the older whatsnew docs.  The provide a readable 
 introduction to various features and nicely augment the plain docs which can 
 be a little dry.

 +1 for keeping the links as-is.  Removing them takes away a resource and 
 gains nothing.

They're also a useful resource when developing compatibility guides
for projects that target older versions (including ones that support
py3k via 2to3).

With the latest 3.x release always being at the top, I agree with
Raymond that retaining the history is a better option.

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: [Python-Dev] What's new 2.x in 3.x docs.

2011-01-22 Thread Terry Reedy

On 1/22/2011 2:20 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:04:00 -0500
Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu  wrote:

The 3.x docs mostly started fresh with 3.0. The major exception is the
What's new section, which goes back to 2.0. The 2.x stuff comprises
about 650KB in the repository and whatever that translates into in the
distribution. I cannot imagine that anyone who only has 3.x and no 2.x
version would have any interest in the 2.x history. And of course, the
complete 2.x history will always be available with the latest 2.7.z. And
the cover page for 3.x could even say so and include a link. So why not
remove it from the 3.2 release (and have two separate pages for the
online version)?


Well, is there any point in doing so, apart from saving 650KB in the
repository? I'm not sure we care about the latter (right now the
whole source tree is more than 50MB, and that's without version
control information).


I was only proposing actual removal of what to me is noise from the 
windows help file (now 5.6 mb) with a link to the online version. But 
the idea is rejected. Fini.


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[Python-Dev] build problem

2011-01-22 Thread Prasun Ratn
Hello
I got the latest copy of python source from svn and was trying to
build it on Windows Vista (32 bit) using Microsoft Visual Express
2008.

I got the following error:

5C:\Program Files\TortoiseSVN\bin\subwcrev.exe ..
..\Modules\getbuildinfo.c
E:\coding\py3kclean\py3k\PCbuild\Win32-temp-Debug\pythoncore\\getbuildinfo2.c
5'C:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

Adding an extra set of quotes around the command seems to fix
this. I've attached a patch.


Thanks
Prasun


buildinfo.patch
Description: Binary data
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