[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead
Hello, On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 15:52:01 -0800 Guido van Rossum wrote: > I hope more of the regulars here jump on this bandwagon. It will be a > great day when Paul posts one of his offensive posts and there is > just deafening silence. And I maintain my hopes where they always were - that there will be discussions of the things Python misses and steps to address them. > Paul was in my (very short) kill file for years I wear that badge proudly, thanks. > but I decided to give him another chance. And I appreciate that. > And he blew it. > > There is a reason why he was banned from micropython, and you all are > seeing it here — he just can’t help himself. For having a different opinion, and maintaining it. > Probably he’s hoping to be banned for a COC violation. Let’s not give > him that satisfaction. I won't be the first, I won't be the last. Long time ago I thought: what worst could happen? I will leave Python, like thousands before me? And I decided to stay, and even make some noises sometimes. I definitely can't reach levels of "Python3 is not Turing-complete" drama (https://www.google.com/search?q=python+3+is+not+turing+complete), but glad that my humble efforts are being noticed. The more interesting question is what will you do on the actual technical topics raised? Nothing? Something completely different? The whole story of Python3 migration (the case above) showed that: 1. All the compatibility concerns were never addressed, to punish abusive critics of Python3 (and anyone who was persistent in their critics was abusive). 2. As a particular step, when "u" string prefix for unicode strings was reintroduced, it was made as "z", again, to punish all the critics. Sorry, abusive critics. So, it's a real intrigue how future technical challenges will be addressed, if at all. > > —Guido (speaking for myself only) -- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmis...@gmail.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/6TLOTGKQ4ZJR5O5UTNPGREGHK2PMHFDA/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead
On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 1:53 AM Guido van Rossum wrote: > I hope more of the regulars here jump on this bandwagon. It will be a > great day when Paul posts one of his offensive posts and there is just > deafening silence. > > Paul was in my (very short) kill file for years but I decided to give him > another chance. And he blew it. > > There is a reason why he was banned from micropython, and you all are > seeing it here — he just can’t help himself. > > > Probably he’s hoping to be banned for a COC violation. Let’s not give him > that satisfaction. > Agree. I press "Mute" GMail button when seeing offensive words from Paul in conversation. I did it several times for the last months. > —Guido (speaking for myself only) > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 15:11 Stephen J. Turnbull < > turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > >> Paul Sokolovsky writes: >> >> > Sorry, but there may be a suggestion of tactics of sneaking somebody's >> > "pet feature" past the attention of core developers by employing >> > sycophant techniques. >> >> I've had enough of your random aspersions. They make it impossible >> for me to continue reading your posts. I'll join David with a >> "moderate" -100 on your proposals, and bid you "good day". >> ___ >> Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ >> Message archived at >> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/3BAYVC53Z7ZS2UQ4NLAJGIBFJ62DI3NK/ >> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >> > -- > --Guido (mobile) > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/RADAUJGFQLUG2YIQBQF622RY3TRZSTKO/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > -- Thanks, Andrew Svetlov ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/HJEX4XXE3H4STTF5IWNH4QAP2AV6OYTK/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
