Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
On Wednesday 04 April 2007 14:44, Anu Gupta DCSA wrote: Dear Python Contributors, I seek help from designers, developers, testers,defect fixers,project managers or playing any other key role in Free/Open Source software development or maintenence in carrying out a study on practices and problems of defect management in various Free/Open Source Software projects. The Just a random aside - is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed by these mass-mailed out survey requests from students? I must get a several a week now. This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. -- Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's never too late to have a happy childhood. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
Anthony Baxter schrieb: On Wednesday 04 April 2007 14:44, Anu Gupta DCSA wrote: Dear Python Contributors, I seek help from designers, developers, testers,defect fixers,project managers or playing any other key role in Free/Open Source software development or maintenence in carrying out a study on practices and problems of defect management in various Free/Open Source Software projects. The Just a random aside - is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed by these mass-mailed out survey requests from students? I must get a several a week now. This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. Though, in an email targeted at developers, this looks ridiculous to me: | (You can also copy and paste this link into your browser, and hit the | 'Return' key.) cheers, Georg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
Anthony Baxter writes: Just a random aside - is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed by these mass-mailed out survey requests from students? Annoyed, not particularly. Scared, yes: it's long been known that a field=FIELD is moribund when people start getting PhDs in FIELD for dissertations in The History of FIELD. I suspect that that same concept applies to theses on ADJECTIVE Management Practices in FIELD.wink This guy, however, has been at it for over a month, this is his fourth (or so) mailing. I think an entry in the Mailman persona-non-grata list may be appropriate. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly selected -- they're the people who care enough to answer. It would be more efficient and reliable to just go look at a sampling of project web sites and look at their bug trackers, but that requires effort from the student. Recently I was interviewing a student who worked on a project that had instrumented an IDE to record every operation (editing, saving, etc.) in a database. I asked so what did you learn from this data?, and was told that no one has analyzed it; they're just *accumulating* the data. It's stamp collecting as computer science. --amk, who save his files every 87.4 seconds and types a character every 2.3sec. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
amk ... no one has analyzed it; they're just *accumulating* the data. amk It's stamp collecting as computer science. +1 QOTF. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly selected -- they're the people who care enough to answer. Or the people who are getting so pissed off with these surveys that they are willing to spend the time to mess up the results. It would be more efficient and reliable to just go look at a sampling of project web sites and look at their bug trackers, but that requires effort from the student. I remember those days ... Recently I was interviewing a student who worked on a project that had instrumented an IDE to record every operation (editing, saving, etc.) in a database. I asked so what did you learn from this data?, and was told that no one has analyzed it; they're just *accumulating* the data. It's stamp collecting as computer science. --amk, who save his files every 87.4 seconds and types a character every 2.3sec. -- steve, who hits backspace every 1.6 seconds and still makes loads of typos -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Skype: holdenweb http://del.icio.us/steve.holden Recent Ramblings http://holdenweb.blogspot.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
A.M. Kuchling wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly selected -- they're the people who care enough to answer. Not only that, the few I have even bothered trying to answer I've given up on after my reaction to the first half a dozen questions involved variations on the phrase Well, it depends on exactly what you mean by term insert jargon/buzzword here. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brisbane, Australia --- http://www.boredomandlaziness.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
On 4/4/07, A.M. Kuchling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 04:07:18PM +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: This one was at least personally addressed (well, to Python Contributors), which is a step ahead of most of them. What gets me is that such surveys are invalid because the respondents aren't randomly selected -- they're the people who care enough to answer. It would be more efficient and reliable to just go look at a sampling of project web sites and look at their bug trackers, but that requires effort from the student. Recently I was interviewing a student who worked on a project that had instrumented an IDE to record every operation (editing, saving, etc.) in a database. I asked so what did you learn from this data?, and was told that no one has analyzed it; they're just *accumulating* the data. It's stamp collecting as computer science. I am putting way too much effort into my PhD if this kind of stuff can get me a degree. =) -Brett ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
Dear Python Contributors, I seek help from designers, developers, testers,defect fixers,project managers or playing any other key role in Free/Open Source software development or maintenence in carrying out a study on practices and problems of defect management in various Free/Open Source Software projects. The insights gained from the study can further help us to extract publicly accessible defect data and determine impact of defect management practices on software quality. Please spend a few minutes of your precious time to fill up the Questionnaire. The most of the questions follow multiple choice formats and are quite easy to answer. To have the Online Questionnaire, please visit: http://anu.puchd.ac.in/phpESP/public/survey.php?name=FOSS_Defect_Survey (You can also copy and paste this link into your browser, and hit the 'Return' key.) I hope you will find all the questions interesting and thought-provoking. Your answers will be kept anonymous.The data thus collected will only be used for research purpose.It would be nice if you may further refer this mail to others actively engaged with Free/Open Source Software development. If you have any query or suggestions then feel free to contact. Thank You With regards, Anu Gupta Senior Lecturer Department of Computer Science and Applications, Panjab University, Chandigarh. INDIA In case of any problem in accessing/using the above mentioned link please contact: E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
Sir/Madam I seek help from designers, developers, testers,defect fixers,project managers or playing any other key role in Free/Open Source software development or maintenence in carrying out a study to identify practices and problems of defect management in various Free/Open Source Software projects. The insights gained from the study can further help us to extract publicly accessible defect data and determine impact of defect management practices on software quality. Please spend a few minutes of your precious time to fill up the Questionnaire. The most of the questions follow multiple choice formats and are quite easy to answer. To have the Online Questionnaire, please visit: http://anu.puchd.ac.in/phpESP/public/survey.php?name=FOSS_Defect_Survey (You can also copy and paste this link into your browser, and hit the 'Return' key.) I hope you will find all the questions interesting and thought-provoking. Your answers will be kept anonymous.The data thus collected will only be used for research purpose.It would be nice if you may further refer this mail to others actively engaged with Free/Open Source Software development. If you have any query or suggestions then feel free to contact. Thank You With regards, Anu Gupta Senior Lecturer Department of Computer Science and Applications, Panjab University, Chandigarh. INDIA In case of any problem in accessing/using the above mentioned link please contact: E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] A Survey on Defect Management Practices in Free/Open Source Software
Hi Python developers I seek help from designers, developers, testers,defect fixers,project managers or playing any other key role in Free/Open Source software development or maintenence in carrying out a study to identify practices and problems of defect management in various Free/Open Source Software projects. The insights gained from the study can further help us to extract publicly accessible defect data and determine impact of defect management practices on software quality. Please spend a few minutes of your precious time to fill up the Questionnaire. The most of the questions follow multiple choice formats and are quite easy to answer. To have the Online Questionnaire, please visit: http://anu.puchd.ac.in/phpESP/public/survey.php?name=FOSS_Defect_Survey (You can also copy and paste this link into your browser, and hit the 'Return' key.) I hope you will find all the questions interesting and thought-provoking. Your answers will be kept anonymous.The data thus collected will only be used for research purpose.It would be nice if you may further refer this mail to others actively engaged with Free/Open Source Software development. If you have any query or suggestions then feel free to contact. Thank You With regards, Anu Gupta Senior Lecturer Department of Computer Science and Applications, Panjab University, Chandigarh. INDIA In case of any problem in accessing/using the above mentioned link please contact: E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
