Re: Django packages - proposed name changes

2012-03-04 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
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 Am 02.03.2012 10:56, schrieb Bohuslav Kabrda:
 
  Ok, so after having this approved, here is the tracking page that I
  came up with. I'd like you all to go through it and say if it's
  ok/discuss things that may not be clear.
 
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bkabrda/Django_rename
 
  Thanks!
 
 Great, thank you.
 
 What about retiring packages? Will this rename involve older branches
 or
 just f18 and newer?
 
 I'd suggest to do it for all (active) branches. Since we have the
 provides: django-... it won't break anything.
 
 Matthias

Hi Matthias,
I'm not sure about that. I think it's not necessary, but let the other guys 
speak and say what they think.
In my opinion, F17 and F18 should be enough.

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Re: Django packages - proposed name changes

2012-03-02 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
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  On 02/27/2012 08:28 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
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   On 18/01/12 14:01, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
   It seems actually, that there are pretty straightforward
   guidelines for renaming packages:
   
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Renaming_Process#Re-review_required
  
  
  
  
   
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Renaming.2FReplacing_Existing_Packages
   
   So if renaming, we will _have to_ re-review. Also, the
   guidelines are pretty clear with the Provides and Obsoletes,
   so it shouldn't really be a problem.
   
   Bohuslav.
   
   OK,
   
   if renaming is consence, we should implement it right after
   branching F17 in devel-tree.
   
   Probably one should write an example .spec, especially taking
   care on sane requires, provides.
   
   Maybe we should make a wiki page to coordinate this step
   (overview, which package is required to change, which is
   changed, etc.
   
   Bohuslav, would you start such a page? We could divide up
   reviews. I would volunteer to do some reviews.
   
   Matthias
   
   Hi guys, so it seems that we should get this started now, when we
   have plenty of time for Fedora. I was thinking about this a lot
   and here is what I came up with: 1) We should create a fpc
   ticket,
   that would summarize what we want to do, and more importantly, it
   would ask fpc to add a section about Django and its plugins to
   Python packaging guidelines. 2) Then, after approved by fpc, I
   will
   create a wiki page that will hold the list of Django
   plugins/extensions, that were/were not renamed. 3) Then, we
   should
   first review python-django, which is already in work [1], but I
   believe it might be a good idea to wait for the fpc approval,
   before we actually approve and push it. 4) Finally, we should do
   all the other packages. In case some of the packagers are not
   responsive, we should have a proven packager standing by (I know
   two personally, so that shouldn't be a problem).
   
  Sounds like a good plan. I'll be travelling from Wednesday to the
  end
  of the week, and I need to bring the python-django spec that's
  being
  reviewed in sync with our latest Django package (and make some
  changes
  already mentioned in the review ticket and in Bohuslav's email),
  but
  I'll have time to do that later this week.
  
  It'd be great to have this land (mea culpa: I'm the one who
  originally
  picked 'Django' as the package name).
  
  
  
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 Here is the FPC ticket, feel free to join the discussion :)
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/146
 
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 Regards,
 Bohuslav Slavek Kabrda.

Ok, so after having this approved, here is the tracking page that I came up 
with. I'd like you all to go through it and say if it's ok/discuss things that 
may not be clear.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bkabrda/Django_rename

Thanks!

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Re: Django packages - proposed name changes

2012-03-02 Thread Matthias Runge

Am 02.03.2012 10:56, schrieb Bohuslav Kabrda:


Ok, so after having this approved, here is the tracking page that I
came up with. I'd like you all to go through it and say if it's
ok/discuss things that may not be clear.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bkabrda/Django_rename

Thanks!


Great, thank you.

What about retiring packages? Will this rename involve older branches or 
just f18 and newer?


I'd suggest to do it for all (active) branches. Since we have the
provides: django-... it won't break anything.

Matthias
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Re: Django packages - proposed name changes

2012-02-27 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
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On 02/27/2012 08:28 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
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 On 18/01/12 14:01, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
 It seems actually, that there are pretty straightforward 
 guidelines for renaming packages:
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Renaming_Process#Re-review_required




 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Renaming.2FReplacing_Existing_Packages
 
 So if renaming, we will _have to_ re-review. Also, the 
 guidelines are pretty clear with the Provides and Obsoletes,
 so it shouldn't really be a problem.
 
 Bohuslav.
 
 OK,
 
 if renaming is consence, we should implement it right after 
 branching F17 in devel-tree.
 
 Probably one should write an example .spec, especially taking 
 care on sane requires, provides.
 
 Maybe we should make a wiki page to coordinate this step 
 (overview, which package is required to change, which is
 changed, etc.
 
 Bohuslav, would you start such a page? We could divide up 
 reviews. I would volunteer to do some reviews.
 
 Matthias
 
 Hi guys, so it seems that we should get this started now, when we 
 have plenty of time for Fedora. I was thinking about this a lot
 and here is what I came up with: 1) We should create a fpc ticket,
 that would summarize what we want to do, and more importantly, it
 would ask fpc to add a section about Django and its plugins to
 Python packaging guidelines. 2) Then, after approved by fpc, I will
 create a wiki page that will hold the list of Django
 plugins/extensions, that were/were not renamed. 3) Then, we should
 first review python-django, which is already in work [1], but I
 believe it might be a good idea to wait for the fpc approval,
 before we actually approve and push it. 4) Finally, we should do
 all the other packages. In case some of the packagers are not
 responsive, we should have a proven packager standing by (I know
 two personally, so that shouldn't be a problem).
 
Sounds like a good plan. I'll be travelling from Wednesday to the end
of the week, and I need to bring the python-django spec that's being
reviewed in sync with our latest Django package (and make some changes
already mentioned in the review ticket and in Bohuslav's email), but
I'll have time to do that later this week.

It'd be great to have this land (mea culpa: I'm the one who originally
picked 'Django' as the package name).



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Re: Django packages - proposed name changes

2012-01-18 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
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 On 18/01/12 14:01, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
  It seems actually, that there are pretty straightforward guidelines
  for renaming packages:
  
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Renaming_Process#Re-review_required
 
  
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Renaming.2FReplacing_Existing_Packages
  
  So if renaming, we will _have to_ re-review. Also, the guidelines
  are pretty clear with the Provides and Obsoletes, so it shouldn't
  really be a problem.
  
  Bohuslav.
  
 OK,
 
 if renaming is consence, we should implement it right after branching
 F17 in devel-tree.
 
 Probably one should write an example .spec, especially taking care on
 sane requires, provides.
 
 Maybe we should make a wiki page to coordinate this step (overview,
 which package is required to change, which is changed, etc.
 
 Bohuslav, would you start such a page? We could divide up reviews. I
 would volunteer to do some reviews.
 
 Matthias
 

So you want to actually get this into F17? I'm not sure that this is a good 
idea, the time is short and only two of us have stated their opinions, so let's 
wait for more people and then make the decision. If we really agree on this, 
then I'll be happy to find a way to get this going (wiki page, etc.).

Bohuslav.

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