pafo 0.1 released
Hi All, pafo is a help debug library. it allows programmer to observer data fields' state of a complex object or a bundle of objects. Even if some objects in the bundle haven't __str__ or __repr__ methods. Such situation is very usual. Nobody want to writer code only that to print the state of an object two-three times. It provides one function - printObject. You can use it as follows: from pafo import * printObject( [ 1,2,3] ) [ 1 :: int, 2 :: int, 3 :: int ] class A: ... field = 3 ... printObject( [ 1,2,3, A()] ) [ 1 :: int, 2 :: int, 3 :: int, class A: field = 3 :: int ] class B: ... field2 = A() ... listField = [ 1,2,2,4,A()] ... printObject( [ 1,2,B(),3, A()] ) [ 1 :: int, 2 :: int, class B: field2 = class A: field = 3 :: int listField = [ 1 :: int, 2 :: int, 2 :: int, 4 :: int, class A: field = 3 :: int ] , 3 :: int, class A: field = 3 :: int ] Module can be downloaded from: http://daneel0yaitskov.000space.com/pafo-0.1.tar.gz -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Python Ireland's pre-PyCon drinks - Wed, 14th July @ Trinity Capital Hotel
Hi All, Join us for drinks and a chat (a warm-up session to PyCon Ireland ;-) ). When: Wed 14th July, from 7pm Where: Trinity Capital Hotel More details at: http://www.python.ie/meetup/2010/python_ireland_meetup_-_july_2010/ Cheers, /// Vicky ~ ~~ http://irishbornchinese.com ~~ ~~ http://www.python.ie ~~ ~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 17:34:04 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: Using Python 2.x for new projects is not advisable (at least many will think so), and using 3.x is not possible. What to do? It's not a helpful situation for Python. That's pure FUD. Python 2.7 will be supported longer than the normal support period for versions 2.6, 2.5, 2.4, ... so if you have a new project that requires libraries that aren't available for 3.1, then go right ahead and use 2.7. By the time 2.7 is no longer supported (probably around the time 3.4 comes out?), the library situation will be fixed. Those 3.1 features that can be backported to 2.x have been, specifically to reduce the pain in porting 2.7-based applications to 3.x. Feature- wise, 2.7 is designed to ease the transition from the 2.x series to the 3.x series. Claiming that it's not advisable to use 2.7 is simply nonsense. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?
In message 7xpqzbj8st@ruckus.brouhaha.com, Paul Rubin wrote: ... and argc/argv were passed to the child process on its stack. I’ve always felt that to be a misfeature. It means you can’t implement a self-contained argument-parsing library, it still needs the mainline to explicitly pass/put its arguments somewhere. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?
In message xns9da77f36b9f6emithrandirisawes...@80.93.112.4, Mithrandir wrote:
I think that Python could be a alternative to bash and have some
advantages, but it's a long way off from being fully implemented.
Would you prefer to do the following sort of thing in Python or Bash?
AudioParms = -f s16le -ar 48000 -ac 2 # because I can't seem to pipe
compressed audio
ImportCmd = \
(
ffmpeg -v 0 -i (%(src_video)s)
%(audio_parms)s -i (%(src_audio)s)
-vcodec copy -acodec %(audio_codec)s -y %(dstfile)s
%
{
src_video :
; .join
(
[
ffmpeg -v 0 -i %(srcfile)s -f image2pipe
-vcodec copy
-y /dev/stdout
%
{srcfile : ShellEscape(SrcFile)}
for
SrcFile in SrcFiles
]
), # pipe through compressed video without
recompression
src_audio :
; .join
(
[
ffmpeg -v 0 -i %(srcfile)s %(audio_parms)s
-y /dev/stdout
%
{
srcfile : ShellEscape(SrcFile),
audio_parms : AudioParms,
}
for
SrcFile in SrcFiles
]
),
dstfile : ShellEscape(DstFile),
audio_parms : AudioParms,
audio_codec : mp2, # assumption!
}
)
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Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?
In message op.ve06nlvia8n...@gnudebst, Rhodri James wrote: Classic Unix programming is a matter of stringing a bunch of tools together with pipes to get the output you want. This isn't a great paradigm for GUIs (not without tweaking that hasn't really been done), but then again it was never meant to be. I’ve never come across any system where you could string together multiple GUI apps, or even multiple GUI operations in the same app, in any sensible or effective way at all. GUIs just aren’t designed to work that way. The command line (or scripting, the difference isn’t that important) remains the only workable way to string together complex combinations of simpler operations. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On 7/4/2010 10:44 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 7/4/2010 7:58 PM, John Nagle wrote: The incompatible with all extension modules I need part is the problem right now. A good first step would be to identify the top 5 or 10 modules that are blocking a move to Python 3 by major projects with many users. Let me repeat. Last September, if not before, Guido identified numpy as a top package blocking moves by other packages and projects. I am not sure what he thought, but I consider it number 1. He encouraged the numpy people to produce a 3.x version even though some did not see any personal benefit. We supposedly will see numpy for 3.2. If we actually do, other dominoes will fall into place. I you have any other ideas about other top blockers, please share them. The Twisted team has a list of what they need: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/172306/how-are-you-planning-on-handling-the-migration-to-python-3; * Zope Interface * PyCrypto * PyOpenSSL * PyGTK John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:59:03 -0700, John Nagle wrote: Denying that there's a problem does not help. Nobody is denying that there is a problem, but there are plenty of people denying that there are any solutions. The folks doing development of CPython are genuinely interested in constructive criticism. Go spend some time on the python-dev mailing list to see that they're serious about resolving problems. But harping on and on with the same old negatives and same old FUD (Python is too slow, nothing works with Python 3, people will abandon Python, the transition is being mismanaged, blah blah blah blah) conspicuously lacking in *actual* details is not helping anyone. Let's hear specifics. What is your project, what is the project timeline, why did you want to use 3.1 (instead of, say, waiting for 3.2) and what *specific* problem stopped you? I'm not interested in hand-waving and vague generalities. I want to hear names and versions, not bitching. We are planning on building an app to do Foo, and choose to target 2.6 instead of 3.1 because the 3rd party FooLib only supports 2.5 and 2.6... I wrote an app using 3.1, and ran into these really painful problems with this library... That's the sort of thing that is helpful. By the same token, if you've successfully targeted 3.1, we'd love to hear your success stories too. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 put-downs: What's the point?
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:20:38 -0700 (PDT) CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote: Any online group is an opportunity to register dissent in a way that is public, open, immediate, interactive, and will (probably) be preserved for historians to check. The fact is, some people have gripes with Python 3; they are letting it be known. If no one did, there could be no later time at which people could look back and know what the reaction was to its introduction--it would just be a blank. Aren't opinions that dissent from the prevailing ones important to register, whether one thinks they are right or wrong? Sure. As long as you don't record the same dissent from the same person ten times in a row. Then it becomes trolling. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SyntaxError not honoured in list comprehension?
On Jul 4, 11:02 pm, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote: On Jul 5, 1:08 am, Thomas Jollans tho...@jollans.com wrote: On 07/04/2010 03:49 PM, jmfauth wrote: File psi last command, line 1 print9.0 ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax somewhat strange, yes. There are two tokens, print9 (a name) and .0 (a float constant) -- looks like SyntaxError to me. Yep. Looks that way to me, too. Python 2.7.0+ (release27-maint:82569, Jul 5 2010, 08:35:08) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5490)] on darwin Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from cStringIO import StringIO import tokenize, token for tok in tokenize.generate_tokens(StringIO(print9.0).readline): ... print token.tok_name[tok[0]], tok[1] ... NAME print9 NUMBER .0 ENDMARKER -- Mark -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 put-downs: What's the point?
Am Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:51:54 -0500 schrieb Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com: I think it's the same venting of frustration that caused veteran VB6 developers to start calling VB.Net Visual Fred -- the language was too different and too non-backwards-compatible. VB6 - VB.NET and Python 2 - 3 is not a valid comparison. VB6 and VB.NET are totally different languages and technologies, with some similarity in syntax. This is not true for Python 2-3. This is an healthy organic language growth, not an abandon of a language. -- Greg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.7 released
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:58 PM, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote: On Jul 5, 12:27 pm, Martineau ggrp2.20.martin...@dfgh.net wrote: On Jul 4, 8:34 am, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On behalf of the Python development team, I'm jocund to announce the second release candidate of Python 2.7. Python 2.7 will be the last major version in the 2.x series. However, it will also have an extended period of bugfix maintenance. 2.7 includes many features that were first released in Python 3.1. The faster io module, the new nested with statement syntax, improved float repr, set literals, dictionary views, and the memoryview object have been backported from 3.1. Other features include an ordered dictionary implementation, unittests improvements, a new sysconfig module, auto-numbering of fields in the str/unicode format method, and support for ttk Tile in Tkinter. For a more extensive list of changes in 2.7, seehttp://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.htmlorMisc/NEWS in the Python distribution. To download Python 2.7 visit: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/ 2.7 documentation can be found at: http://docs.python.org/2.7/ This is a production release and should be suitable for all libraries and applications. Please report any bugs you find, so they can be fixed in the next maintenance releases. The bug tracker is at: http://bugs.python.org/ Enjoy! -- Benjamin Peterson Release Manager benjamin at python.org (on behalf of the entire python-dev team and 2.7's contributors) Benjamin (or anyone else), do you know where I can get the Compiled Windows Help file -- python27.chm -- for this release? In the past I've been able to download it from the Python web site, but have been unable to locate it anywhere for this new release. I can't build it myself because I don't have the Microsoft HTML help file compiler. Thanks in advance. If you have a Windows box, download the .msi installer for Python 2.7 and install it. The chm file will be in C:\Python27\Doc (if you choose the default installation directory). Otherwise ask a friendly local Windows user for a copy. -- Or you can just use 7-zip or cabextract on the MSi. Saves you from having to uninstall it later, and it works on non-Windows machines. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: delegation pattern via descriptor
kedra marbun a écrit : i'm confused which part that doesn't make sense? this is my 2nd attempt to py, the 1st was on april this year, it was just a month, i'm afraid i haven't got the fundamentals right yet. so i'm gonna lay out how i got to this conclusion, CMIIW **explanation of feeling (0) on my 1st post** to me, descriptor is a particular kind of delegation, it takes the job of coding the delegation by having a contract with programmers that the tree meta operations (get, set, del) on attr are delegated to the obj that is bound to the attr are we agree that descriptor is a kind of delegation? the mechanism that makes descriptor works is in __getattribute__, __setattr__, __delattr__ of 'object' 'type' now, if i want a single descriptor obj to be delegated to multiple tasks, i can't do it since __get__ doesn't get info that can be used to determine which task to do i must have diff descriptor obj for each task class Helper: def __init__(self, name): self.name = name def __get__(self, ins, cls): if self.name == 'task0': ... elif self.name == 'task1': ... else: ... Replacing such big switch code with polymorphic dispatch is one of the goals (and feature) of OO. This should be: class Task0(object): def __get__(self, obj, cls): # code here class Task1(object): def __get__(self, obj, cls): # code here class A(object): task0 = Task0() task1 = Task1() If you have common code to share between TaskO and Task1 then factor it out into a base class. if __get__ receives the name, then i could do class Helper: def __get__(self, ins, cls, name): ... class a: task0 = task1 = Helper() Yuck. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
What is the name of the name space I am in?
I try to use new.new.classobj (name, baseclass, dict) and have no clue what the dict of the current name space is. I can name dicts of imported modules, because their name exists in the current name space. If, for instance, I import a module service then that module's name space would be service.__dict__. But if I import * from service, then I incorporate that name space into the current one and I cannot name it, because the current module's name is not part of the module's own name space. dir (service) is equivalent to service.__dict__.keys () if service is importet. dir () is equivalent to ?.__dict__.keys () where ? is the name of the current module, itself not part of the current module's name space. So the question mark stands for an implicit name that can be neither named nor dropped. So my question is: how does one name the dictionary of the name space one is in? Frederic -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is the name of the name space I am in?
On 07/05/2010 11:07 AM, Anthra Norell wrote: I try to use new.new.classobj (name, baseclass, dict) and have no clue what the dict of the current name space is. I can name dicts of imported modules, because their name exists in the current name space. If, for instance, I import a module service then that module's name space would be service.__dict__. But if I import * from service, then I incorporate that name space into the current one and I cannot name it, because the current module's name is not part of the module's own name space. dir (service) is equivalent to service.__dict__.keys () if service is importet. dir () is equivalent to ?.__dict__.keys () where ? is the name of the current module, itself not part of the current module's name space. So the question mark stands for an implicit name that can be neither named nor dropped. So my question is: how does one name the dictionary of the name space one is in? either globals() or locals(), depending on what you mean. Frederic -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: GAE + recursion limit
On 2 Lip, 22:49, Paul McGuire pt...@austin.rr.com wrote: Does anyone have any clue what that might be? Why the problem is onGAE(even when run locally), when command line run works just fine (even withrecursionlimitdecreased)? Can't explain why you see different behavior onGAEvs. local, but it is unusual for a small translator to flirt withrecursionlimit. I don't usually see parsers come close to this with fewer than 40 or 50 sub-expressions. You may have some left-recursiongoing on. Can you post your translator somewhere, perhaps on pastebin, or on the pyparsing wiki Discussion page (pyparsing.wikispaces.com)? -- Paul @David, thanks for the advice, I did ask on GAE list, id not get answer till now though. @Paul, I think I solved it. I did extensive test during weekend and it appears that my regular translator almost reaches 1000 recursion limit. Probably the last time I've tried to increase the recursion limit for GAE app I did it in the wrong place. (For future, if you'd like to do it, the best and working is to set that right before call to run_wsgi_app(application)). The only think that remains is, I need to review the grammar and how processing happens that I reach that limit with GAE. Thanks guys, Soltys -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [ANN] eric 5.0.0 released
Detlev Offenbach wrote: Hi, I just uploaded eric 5.0.0. This is the first official release. It is available via the eric web site. http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/index.html What is it? --- eric5 is the Python3 variant of the well know eric4 Python IDE and is the first development environment, that runs natively with Python3. It comes with all batteries included. The features are too much to be listed in this announcement. Please see the eric web site for details. Regards, Detlev Nice work, thanks for sharing. JM -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is the name of the name space I am in?
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Anthra Norell anthra.nor...@bluewin.ch wrote: I try to use new.new.classobj (name, baseclass, dict) and have no clue Slight tangent: Note that both the `new` module and old-style classes (which are what `classobj` produces) are deprecated. To produce new-style classes dynamically, use `type`. Cheers, Chris -- http://blog.rebertia.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 7/4/2010 7:58 PM, John Nagle wrote: The incompatible with all extension modules I need part is the problem right now. A good first step would be to identify the top 5 or 10 modules that are blocking a move to Python 3 by major projects with many users. Let me repeat. Last September, if not before, Guido identified numpy as a top package blocking moves by other packages and projects. I am not sure what he thought, but I consider it number 1. He encouraged the numpy people to produce a 3.x version even though some did not see any personal benefit. We supposedly will see numpy for 3.2. I think numpy will work for 3.1 as well (I don't know about 3.0, but my understanding is that there is no point into even looking at that release). With the scipy conferences going on, it will certainly be a good occasion to synchronize a bit faster - nothing beats face to face as a communication medium after all :) David -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
SMTPHandler and Unicode
Hello, I want to send error messages with SMTPHandler logging. But SMTPHandler does not seem to be unicode aware. Is there something doable without playing with sys.setdefaultencoding ? import logging,logging.handlers smtpHandler = logging.handlers.SMTPHandler(mailhost=(smtp.example.com,25), fromaddr=t...@example.com, toaddrs=t...@example.com, subject=uerror message) LOG = logging.getLogger() LOG.addHandler(smtpHandler) LOG.error(usans accent) LOG.error(uaccentu\u00E9) gives : UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 117: ordinal not in range(128) Thank you ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Crash in PyThread_acquire_lock
Thanks Antoine! :) You were right. It was the wrong thread...uhmm... Bye! :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Confusion over etree.ElementTree.Element.getiterator
On Jul 4, 7:33 am, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
BenSizer, 04.07.2010 00:32:
On Jul 3, 11:12 pm,BenSizerkylo...@gmail.com wrote:
for el in root.getiterator():
... print el
[much output snipped]
Element {http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}a at d871e8
Element {http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}a at d87288
Element {http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}script at d87300
Element {http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml}script at d87378
Hmm, I think I've worked it out. Apparently the XML namespace forms
part of the tag name in this case. Is that what is intended?
Sure.
I didn't see any examples of this in the docs.
Admittedly, it's three clicks away from the library docs on docs.python.org.
http://effbot.org/zone/element.htm#xml-namespaces
Hopefully someone will see fit to roll this important documentation
into docs.python.org before the next release... oops, too late. ;)
It's one of those things that's easy to fix when you know what the
problem is. Unfortunately it makes the examples a bit awkward. The
example on http://docs.python.org/library/xml.etree.elementtree.html
opens up an xhtml file and reads a p tag within a body tag, but
the xhtml specification (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#strict) states
that 'The root element of the document must contain an xmlns
declaration for the XHTML namespace'. Therefore I don't see how the
example Python code given could work on a proper xhtml file, given
that there should always be a namespace in effect but the code doesn't
allow for it.
That's my excuse anyway! :)
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Re: Twisted 10.1.0 released
On behalf of Twisted Matrix Laboratories, I am honored to announce the release of Twisted 10.1.0. Highlights include: * Deferreds now support cancellation * A new endpoint interface which can abstractly describe stream transport endpoints such as TCP and SSL * inotify support for Linux, which allows monitoring of file system events. * AMP supports transferring timestamps Note also that this is the *last* supported release of Twisted for Python 2.4 on Windows. For more information, see the NEWS file. It's stable, backwards compatible, well tested and in every way an improvement. Download it now from: http://tmrc.mit.edu/mirror/twisted/Twisted/10.1/Twisted-10.1.0.tar.bz2 http://tmrc.mit.edu/mirror/twisted/Twisted/10.1/Twisted-10.1.0.winxp32-py2.5.msi http://tmrc.mit.edu/mirror/twisted/Twisted/10.1/Twisted-10.1.0.winxp32-py2.6.msi Many thanks to Glyph Lefkowitz, who helped do the release preparation, and the PyCon 2010 sprinters, who did so much of the work for this release. The twisted website at http://twistedmatrix.com/ seems to be having issues (trac can not connect to its database?). Cheers, Daniel -- Psss, psss, put it down! - http://www.cafepress.com/putitdown -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMTPHandler and Unicode
norbert wrote: I want to send error messages with SMTPHandler logging. But SMTPHandler does not seem to be unicode aware. Is there something doable without playing with sys.setdefaultencoding ? try MailingLogger: http://www.simplistix.co.uk/software/python/mailinglogger If you have unicode problems with that, I'd be interested in fixing them! cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Plot problem.. ?? No sign at all
hello guys.. I'm new at python programming and i'm having some problems with a script that i have been developing for my final project of my graduation. I have a script that is supposed to make a plot of a Residuo (waveform) witch is an output of a ADC ( Analogic To Digital Converter) for the first stage of the Flash pipiline ADC structure.This script doesn't show any syntax errors but it doesn't show no waveform at all at the plot window. I'm worried about this situation so I came here looking for help since I am new to the Python language. --- from pylab import* Vref = arange(1, 20, 0.02) Vi = arange(1, 10,0.1) for i in Vref: for n in Vi: if n i/4: V0 = 2*n-i elif (-i/4) = n and n = i/4: V0 = 2*n elif Vi -i/4: V0 = 2*n+i else: print Try Again ##print V0 plot (V0)boboz10 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is the name of the name space I am in?
Thomas Jollans wrote: On 07/05/2010 11:07 AM, Anthra Norell wrote: I try to use new.new.classobj (name, baseclass, dict) and have no clue what the dict of the current name space is. I can name dicts of imported modules, because their name exists in the current name space. If, for instance, I import a module service then that module's name space would be service.__dict__. But if I import * from service, then I incorporate that name space into the current one and I cannot name it, because the current module's name is not part of the module's own name space. dir (service) is equivalent to service.__dict__.keys () if service is importet. dir () is equivalent to ?.__dict__.keys () where ? is the name of the current module, itself not part of the current module's name space. So the question mark stands for an implicit name that can be neither named nor dropped. So my question is: how does one name the dictionary of the name space one is in? either globals() or locals(), depending on what you mean. Frederic Thomas, Thanks a million. Just the tip I needed. Frederic -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMTPHandler and Unicode
norbert wrote:
Your package has the same unicode problem :
import logging,logging.handlers
from mailinglogger.MailingLogger import MailingLogger
mailingLogger = MailingLogger(mailhost=('smtp.example.com',
25),fromaddr='t...@example.com',toaddrs=('t...@example.com',))
LOG = logging.getLogger()
LOG.addHandler(mailingLogger)
LOG.error(usans accent)
LOG.error(uaccentu\u00E9)
-- UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9'
in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)
Interesting, I don't know what the logging framework's position is on
unicode...
What happens when you try the same logging with just a FileHandler
registered? What encoding does the log file use?
cheers,
Chris
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Re: SMTPHandler and Unicode
On 5 juil, 13:17, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
try MailingLogger:
If you have unicode problems with that, I'd be interested in fixing them!
Your package has the same unicode problem :
import logging,logging.handlers
from mailinglogger.MailingLogger import MailingLogger
mailingLogger = MailingLogger(mailhost=('smtp.example.com',
25),fromaddr='t...@example.com',toaddrs=('t...@example.com',))
LOG = logging.getLogger()
LOG.addHandler(mailingLogger)
LOG.error(usans accent)
LOG.error(uaccentu\u00E9)
-- UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9'
in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)
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Re: Plot problem.. ?? No sign at all
Ritchy lelis wrote: hello guys.. I'm new at python programming and i'm having some problems with a script that i have been developing for my final project of my graduation. I have a script that is supposed to make a plot of a Residuo (waveform) witch is an output of a ADC ( Analogic To Digital Converter) for the first stage of the Flash pipiline ADC structure.This script doesn't show any syntax errors but it doesn't show no waveform at all at the plot window. I'm worried about this situation so I came here looking for help since I am new to the Python language. --- from pylab import* Vref = arange(1, 20, 0.02) Vi = arange(1, 10,0.1) for i in Vref: for n in Vi: if n i/4: V0 = 2*n-i elif (-i/4) = n and n = i/4: V0 = 2*n elif Vi -i/4: V0 = 2*n+i else: print Try Again ##print V0 plot (V0)boboz10 Only the first 2 'if' conditions are ever true, so nothing is ever plotted. Also, I don't know what you're trying to do here: elif Vi -i/4: because Vi is an array and i is a float. If Python ever tried to execute it there would be a ValueError exception: ValueError: The truth value of an array with more than one element is ambiguous. Use a.any() or a.all() -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMTPHandler and Unicode
On 5 juil, 14:32, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
norbert wrote:
Your package has the same unicode problem :
import logging,logging.handlers
from mailinglogger.MailingLogger import MailingLogger
mailingLogger = MailingLogger(mailhost=('smtp.example.com',
25),fromaddr='t...@example.com',toaddrs=('t...@example.com',))
LOG = logging.getLogger()
LOG.addHandler(mailingLogger)
LOG.error(usans accent)
LOG.error(uaccentu\u00E9)
-- UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9'
in position 7: ordinal not in range(128)
Interesting, I don't know what the logging framework's position is on
unicode...
What happens when you try the same logging with just a FileHandler
registered? What encoding does the log file use?
a FileHandler works as expected, the log file being UTF-8 encoded. The
SMTPHandler is the only logger I know with this problem, maybe
connected to SMTPLib implementation ?
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Re: What is the name of the name space I am in?
Chris Rebert wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Anthra Norell anthra.nor...@bluewin.ch wrote: I try to use new.new.classobj (name, baseclass, dict) and have no clue Slight tangent: Note that both the `new` module and old-style classes (which are what `classobj` produces) are deprecated. To produce new-style classes dynamically, use `type`. Cheers, Chris -- http://blog.rebertia.com Chris, I noticed the deprecation situation reading the doc, but opted for what I thought might be more backward-compatible. Your suggestion prompted me to take a closer look and it turns out that types is compatible as far back as I have to go (2.5). So I use types with thanks to you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMTPHandler and Unicode
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:17:38 -0700 (PDT) norbert ncaude...@gmail.com wrote: a FileHandler works as expected, the log file being UTF-8 encoded. Ouch. Implicit encoding sounds like a bad behaviour. The SMTPHandler is the only logger I know with this problem, maybe connected to SMTPLib implementation ? I suggest you report an issue on http://bugs.python.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 put-downs: What's the point?
In article mailman.247.1278309447.1673.python-l...@python.org, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 20:05:03 -0400, Roy Smith r...@panix.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: In article mailman.238.1278287528.1673.python-l...@python.org, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: I've often wondered if changing the name of the language (such as Adder, Served, Dwarf or Fawlty for the Britcom fans in the crowd) would have mitigated some of the more vituperative slurs on what became Py3, designating a shared legacy without the expectation of 100% backwards-compatibility. Maybe it should have been Python five, no, THREE! But Adder works on two levels... The BritCom, and the serpentine... Not to mention that the same main characters show up in each version :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
black console window of executing os.chmod() and os.access()
Hi all, I want to use os.chmod or os.access to check the permission of a folder on remote Windows computer: os.chmod(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder, stat.S_IWRITE) or os.access(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder, os.W_OK) I saved this python file as a.pyw, run it with pythonw.exe a.pyw, then a black console window display one second. Only remote folder has this problem, local folder has no this problem. Anybody know how to remove the black console window? Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: black console window of executing os.chmod() and os.access()
On 07/05/2010 04:19 PM, 朱重八 wrote: Hi all, I want to use os.chmod or os.access to check the permission of a folder on remote Windows computer: os.chmod(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder, stat.S_IWRITE) or os.access(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder, os.W_OK) That won't work: print(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder) \1.1.1.1\sharedfolder I saved this python file as a.pyw, run it with pythonw.exe a.pyw, then a black console window display one second. Only remote folder has this problem, local folder has no this problem. Anybody know how to remove the black console window? Does the script actually work for remote folders? Does the same problem occur for other file operations on remote systems? Maybe someone else knows an answer, otherwise maybe my thoughts will be of some help. Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found, SWIG, life, etc
I am struggling :-( I have used SWIG to build a module called SHIP. So I have a directory containing SHIP.py and _SHIP.pyd, as follows: H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Releasedir Volume in drive H has no label. Volume Serial Number is B83B-76F2 Directory of H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release 05/07/2010 14:43DIR . 05/07/2010 14:43DIR .. 03/07/2010 16:2841,079 SHIP.py 03/07/2010 14:36 495,616 _SHIP.pyd 2 File(s)536,695 bytes 2 Dir(s) 58,270,535,680 bytes free I have a test Python program which imports sys and os and then attempts to import SHIP; it begins as follows: ## D for John's notebook ## E for Rod's notebook ## H for Bill's notebook DRIVE = 'H:' import sys import os if ( not os.path.exists(DRIVE) ): print Drive \'%s\' does not exist on this machine; edit top of file % (DRIVE) sys.exit(0) # Prepend our path sys.path[:0] = [DRIVE + r'\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release'] import SHIP SHIP.Initialise(); I then create a Command Prompt window and enter: H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIPC:\Python26\python -vv Test1.py tmp.txt 21 In tmp.txt, I see the following: snipped out lots of importing Python 2.6.5 (r265:79096, Mar 19 2010, 21:48:26) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. # trying H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\SHIP.pyd # trying H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\SHIP.py # H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\SHIP.pyc matches H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\SHIP.py import SHIP # precompiled from H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\SHIP.pyc # trying H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\_SHIP.pyd # clear[2] __name__ # clear[2] __file__ Traceback (most recent call last): File Test1.py, line 15, in module import SHIP File H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\SHIP.py, line 7, in module import _SHIP ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found. snip It would seem the import SHIP is finding SHIP.py without any trouble. SHIP.py begins by import _SHIP. Python appears to find H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\_SHIP.pyd but for some reason, which I cannot fathom, says DLL load failed. Can anyone offer me any suggestion where I am going wrong or how to tackle this problem? Could it be that the Python 2.6 I am running did not use the same compiler (VC6) with which I buiult _SHIP.pyd and if so, is there a way round this without moving on from VC6? TIA, Bill -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Plot problem.. ?? No sign at all
On 7/5/2010 7:45 AM, Ritchy lelis wrote: from pylab import* Vref = arange(1, 20, 0.02) Vi = arange(1, 10,0.1) for i in Vref: for n in Vi: if n i/4: V0 = 2*n-i elif (-i/4)= n and n= i/4: V0 = 2*n elif Vi -i/4: V0 = 2*n+i else: print Try Again ##print V0 plot (V0) Your data manipulations don't make sense to me, and plotting one point at a time is probably not what you want to do. As a rule, use arange only with integer arguments. Finally, if you want to see your plot, you need to show it (or save it). So create an **array** V0 and then do something like the following: import numpy as np import matplotlib.pyplot as plt Vref = np.linspace(1,20, 1000) Vi = np.linspace(1,10,100) #replace the next line V0 = ... #create an array plt.plot(V0) plt.show() hth, Alan Isaac -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: black console window of executing os.chmod() and os.access()
Sorry, I mean 1.1.1.1\\sharedfolder Seems os.chmod(), os.access() and os.makedirs() all have this problem when the path is a remote path. 2010/7/5 Thomas Jollans tho...@jollans.com On 07/05/2010 04:19 PM, 朱重八 wrote: Hi all, I want to use os.chmod or os.access to check the permission of a folder on remote Windows computer: os.chmod(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder, stat.S_IWRITE) or os.access(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder, os.W_OK) That won't work: print(\\1.1.1.1\sharedfolder) \1.1.1.1\sharedfolder I saved this python file as a.pyw, run it with pythonw.exe a.pyw, then a black console window display one second. Only remote folder has this problem, local folder has no this problem. Anybody know how to remove the black console window? Does the script actually work for remote folders? Does the same problem occur for other file operations on remote systems? Maybe someone else knows an answer, otherwise maybe my thoughts will be of some help. Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found, SWIG, life, etc
On 07/05/2010 04:35 PM, Bill Davy wrote: I am struggling :-( smile! I have used SWIG to build a module called SHIP. So I have a directory containing SHIP.py and _SHIP.pyd, as follows: [ ...] Python appears to find H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\_SHIP.pyd but for some reason, which I cannot fathom, says DLL load failed. Maybe it doesn't mean _SHIP.pyd, but another DLL: maybe _SHIP.pyd depends on some other DLL? Since you used SWIG, I'm guessing that you're wrapping some other library. Maybe that's what it can't find. Can anyone offer me any suggestion where I am going wrong or how to tackle this problem? Could it be that the Python 2.6 I am running did not use the same compiler (VC6) with which I buiult _SHIP.pyd and if so, is there a way round this without moving on from VC6? Shouldn't be a problem, as long as the calling convention hasn't change, which it hasn't. If you're on a 64-bit system there might be a problem there with Python and some DLLs being built for different architectures? Cheers, Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: VICIOUS Enemy Insurgents kill 34 US soldiers after 9 hrs attack - Bellies ripped open and numerous injured - call for TRUE PATRIOTS . The deep undercover spies agents of influence mislead the pub
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/16/jim-w-dean-faked-israeli-flotilla-v= ideos-provide-opening-to-expose-israeli-expionage-here/ JIM W. DEAN: FAKED ISRAELI FLOTILLA VIDEOS PROVIDE OPENING TO EXPOSE ISRAELI EXPIONAGE HERE June 16, 2010 posted by Gordon Duff =B7 20 Comments Share Faked Israeli Flotilla videos provide opening to expose Israeli Espionage here By Jim W. Dean for Veterans Today Dear Friends, The Zionists shot themselves in both feet with this rushed spin job to deflect attention on their slaughter of the Gaza Flotilla activists. We can thank the retired Intel folks for the frame analysis exposing the fraud on the Veterans Today link above. Fortunately more and more retired Intel and security people are getting into the life or death struggle defending the country from our =91domestic enemies=92. These Photo shopped videos were done so poorly as to be almost comical if they were not done to cover up murders. You will have to watch the video several times to really visually catch their mistakes. Don=92t be afraid to use the pause button to study the images. The ending scenes on the fantail immediately struck me as a studio shoot. The lighting was way to bright for a ship in that situation. The actors=85well=85they did a really poor job. In the real videos you see more confusion=85the clothes are not right. If was a completely staged event, even down to the tiny slingshot one guy raises up so it can be noticed. Also, the camera is stationary (on a tripod)=85a huge mistake. YouTube - Veterans Today - That the radical Zionists would lie, cheat or steal to gain some benefit for themselves is not even a news event. Our own American declassified intelligence lays this all out in spades. The best one book read on it is Steven Green=92s Taking Sides, if you can find a used one online. The real news here is how such an obvious fraud was pipelined into American mass media. Any experienced news video editor would have spotted the obvious fraud on these tapes. But they pushed it right out onto unsuspecting Americans who wrongly think that mass media would not pedal something they know to be totally bogus. And how wrong they are. But it gets worse. Our Intel and security agencies always do frame by frame analysis of important video material like this. They also had to have spotted this=85yet they did not warn the American people that this was a fraud. Why not? The answer is that Israel espionage has penetrated American government, media, politics, and even our security institutions to the point that the Zios have no fear of those responsible for our national security protecting us from the Israeli 5th column operating here. They are protected by powerful interests. The military, veteran and intelligence communities are really the only American institutions who can take the lead on tearing the Israeli espionage networks out by the roots. All the other institutions are already compromised. And they will fight like hell as they know that the 5th column could not have been as effective as they have been without more than a few disloyal Americans helping them, many who are well known names. They will do anything to protect themselves from exposure=85anything=85and they have. The USS Liberty is just one example, where dead and wounded servicemen were literally abandoned on the battlefield so as to not reveal to the American public that they were murdered by the Israelis. You might remember that the last whistleblower reform legislation was slapped down a while back. The Congresscritters know what a threat that is. So do the Israelis. We have loyal Intel people who know that the Israelis have been given key Homeland Security contracts that actually have the American taxpayer funding their espionage operations. Oh yes, the Israelis make us pay for it=85smart folks they. Michael Chertoff flew to Israel a few years back to put on a =91fast track=92 seminar for Israeli security companies (staffed by Mussed and military Intel people) to make sure they can the key contracts that they wanted, like airport security and communications plums. This is a huge national scandal, and one that a Congressional investigation would not put a dent into as those folks have sold us out to the Israelis in return for political support. John McCain is one of the worst examples, but he has lots of company. I listened to General Russel Honore give a great Memorial Day speech in Atlanta recently. It was short and sweet in his normal style. =93We were born by accident, based on where our parents were. To live free is a privilege. But to die free is an obligation that we leave to each generation.=94 Folks, If we don=92t join hands and root out this the Israeli 5th column here we will be breaking the chain, and it is getting late in the day. Their numbers are small, so they have put the fix it at the top, political espionage. But we have the numbers to beat them. They have just not been brought to bear due to their divide
throwing exceptions from csv.DictReader or even csv.reader
Hullo Csv is a very common format for publishing data as a form of primitive integration. It's an annoyingly brittle approach, so I'd like to ensure that I capture errors as soon as possible, so that I can get the upstream processes fixed, or at worst put in some correction mechanisms and avoid getting polluted data into my analyses. A symptom of several types of errors is that the number of fields being interpreted varies over a file (eg from wrongly embedded quote strings or mishandled embedded newlines). My preferred approach would be to get DictReader to throw an exception when encountering such oddities, but at the moment it seems to try to patch over the error and fill in the blanks for short lines, or ignore long lines. I know that I can use the restval parameter and then check for what's been parsed when I get my results back, but this seems brittle as whatever I use for restval could legitimately be in the data. Is there any way to get csv.DictReader to throw and exception on such simple line errors, or am I going to have to use csv.reader and explicitly check for the number of fields read in on each line? cheers Tim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMTPHandler and Unicode
Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:17:38 -0700 (PDT) norbert ncaude...@gmail.com wrote: a FileHandler works as expected, the log file being UTF-8 encoded. Ouch. Implicit encoding sounds like a bad behaviour. Yes indeed, hence my question on python-dev... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: throwing exceptions from csv.DictReader or even csv.reader
Tim wrote: Csv is a very common format for publishing data as a form of primitive integration. It's an annoyingly brittle approach, so I'd like to ensure that I capture errors as soon as possible, so that I can get the upstream processes fixed, or at worst put in some correction mechanisms and avoid getting polluted data into my analyses. A symptom of several types of errors is that the number of fields being interpreted varies over a file (eg from wrongly embedded quote strings or mishandled embedded newlines). My preferred approach would be to get DictReader to throw an exception when encountering such oddities, but at the moment it seems to try to patch over the error and fill in the blanks for short lines, or ignore long lines. I know that I can use the restval parameter and then check for what's been parsed when I get my results back, but this seems brittle as whatever I use for restval could legitimately be in the data. Is there any way to get csv.DictReader to throw and exception on such simple line errors, or am I going to have to use csv.reader and explicitly check for the number of fields read in on each line? I think you have to use csv.reader. Untested: def DictReader(f, fieldnames=None, *args, **kw): reader = csv.reader(f, *args, **kw) if fieldnames is None: fieldnames = next(reader) for row in reader: if row: if len(fieldnames) != len(row): raise ValueError yield dict(zip(fieldnames, row)) Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could notbe found, SWIG, life, etc
Thomas Jollans tho...@jollans.com wrote in message news:mailman.265.1278342154.1673.python-l...@python.org... On 07/05/2010 04:35 PM, Bill Davy wrote: I am struggling :-( smile! I have used SWIG to build a module called SHIP. So I have a directory containing SHIP.py and _SHIP.pyd, as follows: [ ...] Python appears to find H:\Viper\HostPC\V1\SHIP\Release\_SHIP.pyd but for some reason, which I cannot fathom, says DLL load failed. Maybe it doesn't mean _SHIP.pyd, but another DLL: maybe _SHIP.pyd depends on some other DLL? Since you used SWIG, I'm guessing that you're wrapping some other library. Maybe that's what it can't find. Well, there's no mention of another librarary, and import _SHIP is the first (non-comment) statement in SHIP.py But when I run Dependency Walker against _SHIP.pyd it does say there's a missing DLL (WINUSB.DLL) so I suspect I've got to sort that out. Can anyone offer me any suggestion where I am going wrong or how to tackle this problem? Could it be that the Python 2.6 I am running did not use the same compiler (VC6) with which I buiult _SHIP.pyd and if so, is there a way round this without moving on from VC6? Shouldn't be a problem, as long as the calling convention hasn't change, which it hasn't. If you're on a 64-bit system there might be a problem there with Python and some DLLs being built for different architectures? Yep, all for the same architetcure. I suspect it's a dependency problem. Oh well. Cheers, Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OT Komodo Edit, line selection gutter is one pixel wide?
On Jul 1, 9:39 am, John Doe j...@usenetlove.invalid wrote: Is there a way to increase the line selection gutter width? It seems to be only one pixel wide. In other words... When I single click on the left side of the line, in order to automatically select the line, the pointer must be in a precise single pixel location immediately to the left of the line. Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks. By the way... I can see that clicking and dragging to select multiple lines can be done somewhere in the space of the first character on the lines, but I am talking about single clicking to select the single line. You can easily do this with a Komodo macro. First you get a reference to the current buffer like so. In JS: var view = ko.views.manager.currentView; var scimoz = view.scimoz; // the editor In Python code: currentView = components.classes[@activestate.com/koViewService;1].\ getService(Components.interfaces.koIViewService).currentView view = currentView.QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.koIScintillaView) scimoz = view.scimoz To get the current width of the line-selection margin: oldValue = scimoz.getMarginWidth(2) # Margin #2, width given in pixels To set a new value: scimoz.setMarginWidth(2, newValue) # 4 looks like a good value There is no boundary between the breakpoint margin (1) and the line- selection margin. If you want this behaviour in general, you can write a post-file-open macro that will set the margin after a file is opened. You currently can't write a post-file-open trigger in Python, (see bug http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=45265) Hope this helps, Eric Promislow Komodo Team Member -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?
On 2010-07-05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro l...@geek-central.gen.new_zealand wrote: In message op.ve06nlvia8n...@gnudebst, Rhodri James wrote: Classic Unix programming is a matter of stringing a bunch of tools together with pipes to get the output you want. This isn't a great paradigm for GUIs (not without tweaking that hasn't really been done), but then again it was never meant to be. I???ve never come across any system where you could string together multiple GUI apps, or even multiple GUI operations in the same app, in any sensible or effective way at all. GUIs just aren???t designed to work that way. You can if they are designed to be used externally. COM is an execellent example of this as is script-fu and any number of other technologies that allow external access to the subroutines or automation capability of a GUI application. The problem is not that it cannot be done; but, that it must be explicilty designed to be used this way. I have worked with complex business process automation centered around Excel and I have automated some really ugly AJAX style web based applications that would only work inside of IE6 by accessing IE through its COM interface. The command line (or scripting, the difference isn???t that important) remains the only workable way to string together complex combinations of simpler operations. The difference is that it is almost always possible to automate using text based applications, even when the author of the software never designed the software to be scripted. Text based IO streams are easy to capture and manipulate. Automating GUI applications requires interal access to the program through some kind of interface and, ideally, decent documention of the interface, something that is missing from many, if not most, GUIs. Anything else relies on ugly and, generally fragile, mechanisms to intercept the programs output and send event triggers to the application. The recent thread to automate Minesweeper by processing its screenshot is an example of this. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Confusion over etree.ElementTree.Element.getiterator
On 7/5/2010 6:40 AM, Ben Sizer wrote: Admittedly, it's three clicks away from the library docs on docs.python.org. http://effbot.org/zone/element.htm#xml-namespaces Hopefully someone will see fit to roll this important documentation into docs.python.org before the next release... oops, too late. ;) Not too late for next release. Open a doc issue with as specific a suggestion as possible. It's one of those things that's easy to fix when you know what the problem is. Unfortunately it makes the examples a bit awkward. The example on http://docs.python.org/library/xml.etree.elementtree.html opens up an xhtml file and reads a p tag within a body tag, but the xhtml specification (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#strict) states that 'The root element of the document must contain an xmlns declaration for the XHTML namespace'. Therefore I don't see how the example Python code given could work on a proper xhtml file, given that there should always be a namespace in effect but the code doesn't allow for it. That's my excuse anyway! :) -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SyntaxError not honoured in list comprehension?
Thank you all for the discussion and the explanations. Mark Dickinson I toyed a littled bit this afternoon and I wrote a colouriser (British spelling?) with the tokenize module. It is quite simple and easy. BTW, if I understand correctly the module tokenize import the module token. So your example becomes: from cStringIO import StringIO import tokenize for tok in tokenize.generate_tokens(StringIO(print9.0).readline): print tokenize.tok_name[tok[0]], tok[1] NAME print9 NUMBER .0 ENDMARKER -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 put-downs: What's the point?
On 7/4/2010 9:20 PM, CM wrote: On Jul 4, 7:14 pm, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote: I think there's a good point to Python 3 put-downs (if I take put-down to mean generally reasonable criticism, which is what I've read here recently, and not trolling). And that is simply to register dissent. But dissent from what? Dissent from something obviously true? (like 'Pythonx.y is useful to some people') Dissent from something obvious false, that no one has said? (like 'Everyone should switch to Pythonx.y') Any online group is an opportunity to register dissent in a way that is public, open, immediate, interactive, and will (probably) be preserved for historians to check. The fact is, some people have gripes with Python 3; they are letting it be known. I have several 'gripes' with 2.7 and it is currently useless to me. Should I let them be known? How many times? If no one did, there could be no later time at which people could look back and know what the reaction was to its introduction--it would just be a blank. Aren't opinions that dissent from the prevailing ones important to register, whether one thinks they are right or wrong? Do you agree with me that the same criteria for gripe legitimacy should be applied equally to all Python versions (even if we should disagree on what those criteria should be)? -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On 7/5/2010 2:56 AM, John Nagle wrote: On 7/4/2010 10:44 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: I you have any other ideas about other top blockers, please share them. The Twisted team has a list of what they need: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/172306/how-are-you-planning-on-handling-the-migration-to-python-3; * Zope Interface * PyCrypto * PyOpenSSL * PyGTK Good start. Now what is blocking those four? Lack of developer interest/time/ability? or something else that they need? -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python as a scripting language. Alternative to bash script?
On 7/5/2010 11:02 AM Tim Harig said... Automating GUI applications requires interal access to the program through some kind of interface and, ideally, decent documention of the interface, something that is missing from many, if not most, GUIs. Anything else relies on ugly and, generally fragile, mechanisms to intercept the programs output and send event triggers to the application. I've been doing the 'anything else...' stuff for years now without issue, so ugly, yes, but fragile, not really. Unless you let users on the same machine... Emile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On 7/5/2010 6:04 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote: [snip] I think numpy will work for 3.1 as well If numpy were released today for 3.1 (or even anytime before 3.2), that would be great. It would let those waiting for it that it is real and that they can go ahead on their ports. Part of the reason for the 3.2 core-change moratorium was to let 3rd-party packages target 3.2 by working with 3.1. If they finish and release sooner (as some have), even better. Unless they depend on something that changes in the stdlib, porting for one should pretty much be porting for both. (I don't know about 3.0, but my understanding is that there is no point into even looking at that release). Agreed. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Re: Python 3 put-downs: What's the point?
On 07/05/2010 02:50 AM, Gregor Horvath wrote: Am Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:51:54 -0500 schrieb Tim Chasepython.l...@tim.thechases.com: I think it's the same venting of frustration that caused veteran VB6 developers to start calling VB.Net Visual Fred -- the language was too different and too non-backwards-compatible. VB6 - VB.NET and Python 2 - 3 is not a valid comparison. VB6 and VB.NET are totally different languages and technologies, with some similarity in syntax. This is not true for Python 2-3. This is an healthy organic language growth, not an abandon of a language. The quintessential example is Py3's breaking of Hello World. It's a spectrum of language changes -- Visual Fred just happens to be MUCH further down the same spectrum having more dramatic changes. Only a subset of $OLD_VER (whether Py2 or VB6) code will run unmodified under $NEW_VER (whether Py3 or VB.Net). It just happens that the subset for Python is considerably larger than the subset for VB (and Python's conversion tools seem a little more useful than VB's, IMHO). IIRC, neither raw VB6 nor Py2 byte-code will run raw in the new environment (old VB .exe files don't make use of .Net libraries/CLR, nor do Py2 .pyc files run under Py3) so a project-rebuild is a minimum (though in Py3, s/minimum/negligible/) requirement. A little defensive coding in $OLD_VER also helps, and here I'd say Python developers had a MUCH longer lead-time to understand scope magnitude of the coming changes; VB6 developers (former self included) had VB.Net foisted on them with much less heralding about the areas-of-breakage. I'm very much +0 on Py3...it doesn't impact my life yet and it's not a regular part of my coding, but the changes I've seen are good for the language and the future of Python. But breaking-changes freak some folks out, leading to the put-downs referenced by the OP. As a former VB6 developer, the shift to VB.Net was enough to send me packing. The shift from Py2 to Py3 will be bumpy, but not enough to lose me as a developer. -tkc -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On 7/5/10 2:56 AM, John Nagle wrote: * PyCrypto * PyOpenSSL These, and Mark Pilgrim's feedparser, need to be 3.x compatible before I can think about Python 3.x. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SyntaxError not honoured in list comprehension?
On Jul 5, 7:12 pm, jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, if I understand correctly the module tokenize import the module token. So your example becomes: from cStringIO import StringIO import tokenize for tok in tokenize.generate_tokens(StringIO(print9.0).readline): print tokenize.tok_name[tok[0]], tok[1] Ah yes; you're right. Thanks! Mark -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.7 released
On Jul 5, 1:12 am, Benjamin Kaplan benjamin.kap...@case.edu wrote: On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:58 PM, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote: On Jul 5, 12:27 pm, Martineau ggrp2.20.martin...@dfgh.net wrote: On Jul 4, 8:34 am, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On behalf of the Python development team, I'm jocund to announce the second release candidate of Python 2.7. Python 2.7 will be the last major version in the 2.x series. However, it will also have an extended period of bugfix maintenance. 2.7 includes many features that were first released in Python 3.1. The faster io module, the new nested with statement syntax, improved float repr, set literals, dictionary views, and the memoryview object have been backported from 3.1. Other features include an ordered dictionary implementation, unittests improvements, a new sysconfig module, auto-numbering of fields in the str/unicode format method, and support for ttk Tile in Tkinter. For a more extensive list of changes in 2.7, seehttp://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.htmlorMisc/NEWSin the Python distribution. To download Python 2.7 visit: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/ 2.7 documentation can be found at: http://docs.python.org/2.7/ This is a production release and should be suitable for all libraries and applications. Please report any bugs you find, so they can be fixed in the next maintenance releases. The bug tracker is at: http://bugs.python.org/ Enjoy! -- Benjamin Peterson Release Manager benjamin at python.org (on behalf of the entire python-dev team and 2.7's contributors) Benjamin (or anyone else), do you know where I can get the Compiled Windows Help file -- python27.chm -- for this release? In the past I've been able to download it from the Python web site, but have been unable to locate it anywhere for this new release. I can't build it myself because I don't have the Microsoft HTML help file compiler. Thanks in advance. If you have a Windows box, download the .msi installer for Python 2.7 and install it. The chm file will be in C:\Python27\Doc (if you choose the default installation directory). Otherwise ask a friendly local Windows user for a copy. -- Or you can just use 7-zip or cabextract on the MSi. Saves you from having to uninstall it later, and it works on non-Windows machines. Perhaps it's hidden somewhere, but I couldn't find the .chm help file in the python-2.7.msi file using 7-zip, nor saw anything that looked like a Doc folder embedded within it -- so I doubt installing it on a Windows machine would work any better. I'd like to view the contents of the help file without actually installing the release which would wipe out any currently installed version (I'm one of those rare people who actually reads manuals *before* using or installing most things.) So my original question stands -- where can one get the Windows Help file for v2.7? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:42:13 -0400 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Good start. Now what is blocking those four? Lack of developer interest/time/ability? or something else that they need? How about a basic how-to document? I maintain PyGreSQL and would like to move it to 3.x right now but I don't even know what the issues are. I can see on the site the 2.x documents and the 3.x documents for extending with C modules and I can read both from end to end but that hits the time issue above. If there was a relatively simple document that showed what needed to be changed in the C code we could get started on the transition sooner. Or is there no change at the C level? That would make things easy. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.7 released
Martineau wrote: Perhaps it's hidden somewhere, but I couldn't find the .chm help file in the python-2.7.msi file using 7-zip, nor saw anything that looked like a Doc folder embedded within it -- so I doubt installing it on a Windows machine would work any better. I don't know much about the .msi format or how 7-Zip handles it, but on my XP box, 7-Zip lists a python sub-archive (a 7-Zip compound). Within is the python27.chm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 put-downs: What's the point?
On Jul 5, 2:33 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 7/4/2010 9:20 PM, CM wrote: On Jul 4, 7:14 pm, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote: I think there's a good point to Python 3 put-downs (if I take put-down to mean generally reasonable criticism, which is what I've read here recently, and not trolling). And that is simply to register dissent. But dissent from what? Dissent from something obviously true? (like 'Pythonx.y is useful to some people') Dissent from something obvious false, that no one has said? (like 'Everyone should switch to Pythonx.y') I was thinking more like dissent from something that is not obviously true or false, but a matter of debate, like some of the decisions behind Python 3 itself or how the transition is being managed. I got the sense that was about where the complaints lie. Some of the responses to those complaints were educational to me, so I didn't mind reading the exchanges. Any online group is an opportunity to register dissent in a way that is public, open, immediate, interactive, and will (probably) be preserved for historians to check. The fact is, some people have gripes with Python 3; they are letting it be known. I have several 'gripes' with 2.7 and it is currently useless to me. Should I let them be known? How many times? Maybe you should; maybe it can be constructive criticism to developers or can jog someone to tell you something that you didn't know. How many times? Once, maybe twice. I agree one can overdo it, and maybe you've read more of the gripes than I have and it seems repetitive by now. If no one did, there could be no later time at which people could look back and know what the reaction was to its introduction--it would just be a blank. Aren't opinions that dissent from the prevailing ones important to register, whether one thinks they are right or wrong? Do you agree with me that the same criteria for gripe legitimacy should be applied equally to all Python versions (even if we should disagree on what those criteria should be)? I think so, sure. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMTPHandler and Unicode
Ouch. Implicit encoding sounds like a bad behaviour. Looking at the FileHandler source ( http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/Lib/logging/__init__.py?view=markup ) : the utf-8 encoding is a fallback. But *FileHandler family let you specify the encoding you want, so that's OK I think. But SMTPHandler does not have such a thing it sends its email with : msg = From: %s\r\nTo: %s\r\nSubject: %s\r\nDate: %s\r\n\r\n%s % ( self.fromaddr, ,.join(self.toaddrs), self.getSubject(record), formatdate(), msg) ... smtp.sendmail(from,to,msg) And there is no encoding in all this. It seems pretty dangerous to me (so my first post) because your application will work without any problem with a FileHandler and the day you'll decide to send email in case of serious problem, it will crash with a UnicodeError. I can't see any workaround, except by subclassing SMTPHandler's emit method to be unicode-aware or at least URF-8 aware. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
Am 05.07.2010 22:30, schrieb D'Arcy J.M. Cain: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:42:13 -0400 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Good start. Now what is blocking those four? Lack of developer interest/time/ability? or something else that they need? How about a basic how-to document? I maintain PyGreSQL and would like to move it to 3.x right now but I don't even know what the issues are. I can see on the site the 2.x documents and the 3.x documents for extending with C modules and I can read both from end to end but that hits the time issue above. If there was a relatively simple document that showed what needed to be changed in the C code we could get started on the transition sooner. Or is there no change at the C level? That would make things easy. If somebody would move that into a narrative form, I'd be happy to list the changes I know of, and the approaches I took to make C modules work on both 2.x and 3.x (actually, I did the port of psycopg2, so I expect PyGreSQL might be similar). However, I'm not willing to maintain such a document - I have too many projects already, and English is not my native language. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Very odd output from subprocess
On Jul 1, 12:42 am, Nobody nob...@nowhere.com wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:12:12 -0700, m wrote: If I add the line: for l in line: print ord(l),'\t',l after the first readline, I get the following: 27 91 [ 48 0 48 0 109 m 27 91 [ 51 3 55 7 109 m before the codes begin for the string as it appears if I just print it. So, what is this sequence? They seem like some sort of escape codes, I've never seen this before at all. ESC[00m is the ANSI code to reset attributes to their default state. ESC[37m is the ANSI code to set the foreground color to white. Can anyone enlighten me as to what is going on? And, can I safely strip sets of 5 characters from the front as long as they start with Escape (27)? No, escape sequences can be of arbitrary length. It turned out that make was aliased to colourmake, and the escape codes were being put in there for beautifying the console output. Sorry to bother everyone. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
using the netflix api
Has anyone had success using the netflix api with Netflix.py? Especially getting access? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Getting pyparsing to backtrack
I'm working on street address parsing again, and I'm trying to deal with some of the harder cases. Here's a subparser, intended to take in things like N MAIN and SOUTH, and break out the directional from street name. Directionals = ['southeast', 'northeast', 'north', 'northwest', 'west', 'east', 'south', 'southwest', 'SE', 'NE', 'N', 'NW', 'W', 'E', 'S', 'SW'] direction = Combine(MatchFirst(map(CaselessKeyword, directionals)) + Optional(.).suppress()) streetNameParser = Optional(direction.setResultsName(predirectional)) + Combine(OneOrMore(Word(alphanums)), adjacent=False, joinString= ).setResultsName(streetname) This parses something like N WEBB fine; N is the predirectional, and WEBB is the street name. SOUTH (which, when not followed by another word, is a streetname, not a predirectional), raises a parsing exception: Street address line parse failed for SOUTH : Expected W:(abcd...) (at char 5), (line:1, col:6) The problem is that direction matched SOUTH, and even though direction is within an Optional and followed by another word, the parser didn't back up when it hit the end of the expression without satisfying the OneOrMore clause. Pyparsing does some backup, but I'm not clear on how much, or how to force it to happen. There's some discussion at http://www.mail-archive.com/python-list@python.org/msg169559.html;. Apparently the Or operator will force some backup, but it's not clear how much lookahead and backtracking is supported. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On 7/5/2010 12:35 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: On 7/5/10 2:56 AM, John Nagle wrote: * PyCrypto * PyOpenSSL These, and Mark Pilgrim's feedparser, need to be 3.x compatible before I can think about Python 3.x. There's been an attempt to port feedparser to 3.0, but that needed a port of BeautifulSoup: http://code.google.com/p/feedparser/issues/detail?id=215 They also had some problems with chardet. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:30 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:42:13 -0400 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Good start. Now what is blocking those four? Lack of developer interest/time/ability? or something else that they need? How about a basic how-to document? I maintain PyGreSQL and would like to move it to 3.x right now but I don't even know what the issues are. I can see on the site the 2.x documents and the 3.x documents for extending with C modules and I can read both from end to end but that hits the time issue above. If there was a relatively simple document that showed what needed to be changed in the C code we could get started on the transition sooner. Or is there no change at the C level? That would make things easy. There are definitely changes at the C level. I ported two pure C extensions from 2 to 3 and was even able to keep a single C codebase. I'd be willing to contribute my experiences to a document somewhere. (Is there a Wiki?) I would have found such a document very helpful before I started porting. Cheers Philip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Philip Semanchuk phi...@semanchuk.com wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:30 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:42:13 -0400 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Good start. Now what is blocking those four? Lack of developer interest/time/ability? or something else that they need? How about a basic how-to document? I maintain PyGreSQL and would like to move it to 3.x right now but I don't even know what the issues are. I can see on the site the 2.x documents and the 3.x documents for extending with C modules and I can read both from end to end but that hits the time issue above. If there was a relatively simple document that showed what needed to be changed in the C code we could get started on the transition sooner. Or is there no change at the C level? That would make things easy. There are definitely changes at the C level. I ported two pure C extensions from 2 to 3 and was even able to keep a single C codebase. I'd be willing to contribute my experiences to a document somewhere. (Is there a Wiki?) Indeed there is: http://wiki.python.org/moin/ Cheers, Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python Embedding Importing relative modules
Hi all, I have a serious problem I haven't solved yet, hope one of you can help me. The first thing is, I embedded Python into my app and I execute several scripts in this environment. The problem is, the scripts don't import modules from their relative path. I guess this is related to the sys.path ['',...] and the current working directory which is set to the directory of my host application. I could set that path manually, but all the scripts might be stored in different locations. So now I try to find a way to handle that. Any suggestions? A solution would be, that each script, appends its own directory to the system path, but this might lead to problems. Imagine all of them have a module called 'foo.py' and its not the same. This might lead to name conflicts, wouldnt it? Btw, I found a source code line in the documentation, where I should really get rid of the ['', ...] path in the system path due to security reasons. import sys; sys.path.pop(0) Hope one of you can help me out here. Really thanks!! Bye, moerchendiser2k3 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What is the name of the name space I am in?
On 07/05/2010 11:07 AM, Anthra Norell wrote: I try to use new.new.classobj (name, baseclass, dict) and have no clue what the dict of the current name space is. Are you sure that's what you really want to know? The 'dict' argument to classobj() defines the attributes that you want the new class to have. It's not meant to be the namespace in which the code creating the class is executing. -- Greg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Another Regexp Question
As ever, I guess it's most likely I've misunderstood something, but in
Python 2.6 lookback seems to actually be lookahead. All the following
tests pass:
from re import compile
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)x|c))(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)b|x))(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(1)c|x))(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)x|c))(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)b|x))(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(1)c|x))(c)').match('abc')
But it seems to me that the first block should fail, because they
check the match *before* the point in question.
Note that without group references these work as I would expected:
assert compile('(a)b(?=b)(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=c)(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=b)(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=c)(c)').match('abc')
in which lookback does indeed lookback (note the asymmetry, while the
first examples were symmetrical).
What am I missing this time? :o(
Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: Python 2.7 released
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:59:00 -0700, Martineau wrote: I'd like to view the contents of the help file without actually installing the release which would wipe out any currently installed version (I'm one of those rare people who actually reads manuals *before* using or installing most things.) When you say wipe out any currently installed version, do you mean an older version of 2.7, or an older version such as 2.6, 2.5, 2.4, ... ? If the first, I don't know of any simple way to keep multiple installations with the same major and minor version number (e.g. 2.7.0a and 2.7.0.b). Sorry. But if you mean the second, that you don't want to over-write 2.6, I'd be shocked if the Python installer does that. Doesn't it install Python to something like C:\Programs\Pythonversion ? Performing a source install under Linux, by default existing versions remain in place, but there's a soft link python which points to the most recent version. Doing a regular install over-writes the soft link. But there's an altinstall option which leaves the link untouched, so (for example) I have python - python 2.5 while still having other versions installed and accessible directly with python2.6, python2.4 etc. I would be stunned if Windows didn't support an equivalent to altinstall. Are there any Windows users out there who can confirm that the installer does or doesn't leave existing versions in place? -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3 put-downs: What's the point?
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:32:13 -0500, Tim Chase wrote: On 07/05/2010 02:50 AM, Gregor Horvath wrote: Am Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:51:54 -0500 schrieb Tim Chasepython.l...@tim.thechases.com: I think it's the same venting of frustration that caused veteran VB6 developers to start calling VB.Net Visual Fred -- the language was too different and too non-backwards-compatible. VB6 - VB.NET and Python 2 - 3 is not a valid comparison. VB6 and VB.NET are totally different languages and technologies, with some similarity in syntax. This is not true for Python 2-3. This is an healthy organic language growth, not an abandon of a language. The quintessential example is Py3's breaking of Hello World. It's a spectrum of language changes -- Visual Fred just happens to be MUCH further down the same spectrum having more dramatic changes. Only a subset of $OLD_VER (whether Py2 or VB6) code will run unmodified under $NEW_VER (whether Py3 or VB.Net). The same holds for older versions of Python to Python 2.5 or 2.6, it's just that you have to work harder to find the incompatibilities. Try running this under later versions: [st...@sylar ~]$ python2.0 Python 2.0.1 (#1, Jan 14 2010, 15:43:17) [GCC 4.1.2 20070925 (Red Hat 4.1.2-27)] on linux2 Type copyright, credits or license for more information. None = Hello world print None Hello world It just happens that the subset for Python is considerably larger than the subset for VB (and Python's conversion tools seem a little more useful than VB's, IMHO). IIRC, neither raw VB6 nor Py2 byte-code will run raw in the new environment (old VB .exe files don't make use of .Net libraries/CLR, nor do Py2 .pyc files run under Py3) Python byte-code has never been compatible across minor version numbers, let alone major ones. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Shared object access problems
John Nagle wrote: On 7/4/2010 6:36 PM, Philip Semanchuk wrote: hi Tim, This seems more likely to be a MySQLdb problem than a Python one. Have you considered asking in the MySQLdb forums? On Jul 4, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: Using python 2.6.4 on slackware 13.1 I have MySQLdb 'by hand', that is: by 1)downloading MySQL-python-1.2.3c1.tar.gz 2)unzipping tarfile 3)running python setup.py build 4)running python setup.py install The build and install seemed to proceded without error, but upon invoking the interpreter and running import MySQLdb I get the following ImportError: ## Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module File build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/MySQLdb/__init__.py, line 19, in module File build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/_mysql.py, line 7, in module File build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/_mysql.py, line 6, in __bootstrap__ ImportError: libmysqlclient_r.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Did you install the development libraries for MySQL first? Those are needed to build MySQLdb yourself. John Nagle By that I think you mean libmysqlclient_r.so* and so forth, if so, yes. The question has become moot, as I recently did an upgrade from slack 13.0 to 13.1, and I've decided to procede with a clean install. So I'm dropping this inquiry and I'll keep my development on ubuntu for the time being. thanks for the help -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.7 released
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:59:00 -0700, Martineau wrote: I'd like to view the contents of the help file without actually installing the release which would wipe out any currently installed version (I'm one of those rare people who actually reads manuals *before* using or installing most things.) ... Are there any Windows users out there who can confirm that the installer does or doesn't leave existing versions in place? The installer does leave existing versions in place. I have no idea what the OP is referring to. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Another Regexp Question
andrew cooke wrote:
As ever, I guess it's most likely I've misunderstood something, but in
Python 2.6 lookback seems to actually be lookahead. All the following
tests pass:
from re import compile
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)x|c))(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)b|x))(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(1)c|x))(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)x|c))(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=(?(2)b|x))(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=(?(1)c|x))(c)').match('abc')
But it seems to me that the first block should fail, because they
check the match *before* the point in question.
Both the first and third should fail, but they pass.
Note that without group references these work as I would expected:
assert compile('(a)b(?=b)(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=c)(c)').match('abc')
assert not compile('(a)b(?=b)(c)').match('abc')
assert compile('(a)b(?=c)(c)').match('abc')
in which lookback does indeed lookback (note the asymmetry, while the
first examples were symmetrical).
What am I missing this time? :o(
Nothing. It's a bug. :-(
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Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On Jul 5, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Philip Semanchuk phi...@semanchuk.com wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:30 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:42:13 -0400 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Good start. Now what is blocking those four? Lack of developer interest/time/ability? or something else that they need? How about a basic how-to document? I maintain PyGreSQL and would like to move it to 3.x right now but I don't even know what the issues are. I can see on the site the 2.x documents and the 3.x documents for extending with C modules and I can read both from end to end but that hits the time issue above. If there was a relatively simple document that showed what needed to be changed in the C code we could get started on the transition sooner. Or is there no change at the C level? That would make things easy. There are definitely changes at the C level. I ported two pure C extensions from 2 to 3 and was even able to keep a single C codebase. I'd be willing to contribute my experiences to a document somewhere. (Is there a Wiki?) Indeed there is: http://wiki.python.org/moin/ Thanks. I don't want to appear ungrateful, but I was hoping for something specific to the 2-to-3 conversion. I guess someone has to start somewhere... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Another Regexp Question
On Jul 5, 8:56 pm, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: andrew cooke wrote: What am I missing this time? :o( Nothing. It's a bug. :-( Sweet :o) Thanks - do you want me to raise an issue or will you? Cheers, Andrew -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Another Regexp Question
andrew cooke wrote: On Jul 5, 8:56 pm, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: andrew cooke wrote: What am I missing this time? :o( Nothing. It's a bug. :-( Sweet :o) Thanks - do you want me to raise an issue or will you? You found it. You can have the pleasure. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: markmin 0.1
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Massimo Di Pierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote: Markmin is a wiki markup language implemented in less than 100 lines of code (one file, no dependencies) easy to read secure support table, ul, ol, code support html5 video and audio elements can align images and resize them CSS friendly (can specify class for tables and code elements) can add anchors anywhere does not use _ for markup (since it creates odd behavior) automatically links urls fast with tests Okay, but where can it be downloaded from? You didn't include a link. Cheers, Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.7 released
On Jul 5, 1:31 pm, Alexander Kapps alex.ka...@web.de wrote: Martineau wrote: Perhaps it's hidden somewhere, but I couldn't find the .chm help file in the python-2.7.msi file using 7-zip, nor saw anything that looked like a Doc folder embedded within it -- so I doubt installing it on a Windows machine would work any better. I don't know much about the .msi format or how 7-Zip handles it, but on my XP box, 7-Zip lists a python sub-archive (a 7-Zip compound). Within is the python27.chm My mistake -- you're quite right the .chm *is* in the .msi where you indicated. FWIW I actually did look in that sub-section before posting yet somehow missed it. Sorry about that and thanks to all involved for your help. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.7 released
On Jul 5, 5:53 pm, David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Steven D'Apranost...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:59:00 -0700, Martineau wrote: I'd like to view the contents of the help file without actually installing the release which would wipe out any currently installed version (I'm one of those rare people who actually reads manuals *before* using or installing most things.) ... Are there any Windows users out there who can confirm that the installer does or doesn't leave existing versions in place? The installer does leave existing versions in place. I have no idea what the OP is referring to. Some clarification. I meant installed 2.7 on top of 2.6.x. Doing so would have interfered with the currently installed version because I always install Python in the same directory, one named just Python, to minimize the number of changes I have to make to to other parts of the system. Some trivial examples are desktop shortcuts I've set up which point to the commandline version of the interpreter and another for the help file. I also believe the Windows installer makes registry changes that also involve paths to the currently installed version, which again, is something I wanted to avoid until I'm actually ready to commit to upgrading. If there are better ways on Windows to accomplish this, I'd like to hear about them. I suppose I could use hardlinks or junctions but they're not well supported on most versions of Windows. BTW, my original problem -- getting a copy of the Windows format compiled help file fro v2/7 without installing it has been taken care by suggestions from other, so this discussion is starting to way off- topic... Thanks, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.7 released
Benjamin (or anyone else), do you know where I can get the Compiled Windows Help file -- python27.chm -- for this release? I have now put that file separately on the release page. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: delegation pattern via descriptor
On Jul 5, 3:42 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers bruno. 42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid wrote: kedra marbun a écrit : i'm confused which part that doesn't make sense? this is my 2nd attempt to py, the 1st was on april this year, it was just a month, i'm afraid i haven't got the fundamentals right yet. so i'm gonna lay out how i got to this conclusion, CMIIW **explanation of feeling (0) on my 1st post** to me, descriptor is a particular kind of delegation, it takes the job of coding the delegation by having a contract with programmers that the tree meta operations (get, set, del) on attr are delegated to the obj that is bound to the attr are we agree that descriptor is a kind of delegation? the mechanism that makes descriptor works is in __getattribute__, __setattr__, __delattr__ of 'object' 'type' now, if i want a single descriptor obj to be delegated to multiple tasks, i can't do it since __get__ doesn't get info that can be used to determine which task to do i must have diff descriptor obj for each task class Helper: def __init__(self, name): self.name = name def __get__(self, ins, cls): if self.name == 'task0': ... elif self.name == 'task1': ... else: ... Replacing such big switch code with polymorphic dispatch is one of the goals (and feature) of OO. This should be: class Task0(object): def __get__(self, obj, cls): # code here class Task1(object): def __get__(self, obj, cls): # code here class A(object): task0 = Task0() task1 = Task1() If you have common code to share between TaskO and Task1 then factor it out into a base class. if __get__ receives the name, then i could do class Helper: def __get__(self, ins, cls, name): ... class a: task0 = task1 = Helper() Yuck. what's so 'Yuck' about it? ;) i guess i need a strong stmt: is descriptor a kind of delegation? or is it not? * if it is a kind of delegation, then the code that you labeled as 'Yuck' is just a result of applying delegation what's wrong with delegating multiple tasks to a single obj? that code is similar to this class Helper: def do_this(self, ins): ... def do_that(self, ins): ... class a: delegate = Helper() def task0(self): self.delegate.do_that(self) def task1(self): self.delegate.do_this(self) the diff is that this code manually code the delegation, that's why it can branches to 2 funcs. while descriptor takes all to __get__, because it works on more meta lv * if it's not, then there's nothing to be argued, the name 'descriptor' is perfectly fit: descriptor obj describes attr of class, with 'describe' translates to: . = del, in py vocabularies. then, to think a single descriptor obj describing a single attr is acceptable, it's a common sense -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: delegation pattern via descriptor
On Jul 5, 7:49 am, Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
kedra marbun wrote:
now, i'm asking another favor, what about the 2nd point in my 1st post?
Your original post has dropped off my newsscope, so
you'll have to remind me what the 2nd point was.
--
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it's like 'name', it's about info that i think should be passed to
descriptor's __{get|set|delete}__. i wonder what are the reasons for
not passing the class on which the descriptor is attached to, what
pattern is encouraged by this?
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Re: Getting the name of the file that imported current module
On Jul 5, 6:29 am, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this- cybersource.com.au wrote: On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:05:56 +, Tobiah wrote: foo.py: import bar bar.show_importer() output: 'foo' or 'foo.py' or 'path/to/foo' etc. Possible? I don't think so. Your question isn't even well-defined. Given three modules: # a.py import b import d # b.py import d # c.py import a import d import b print d.show_importer() and you run c.py, what do you expect d.show_importer() to return? And what about from d import show_importer -- does that count as importing d? Why do you think that a module needs to know what other modules imported it? I can't imagine why this would be necessary, what are you intending to do with it? -- Steven i guess he just likes to play things around, entertains his imagination, no need for practical reason for that -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Getting the name of the file that imported current module
On Jul 5, 4:05 am, Tobiah t...@rcsreg.com wrote:
foo.py:
import bar
bar.show_importer()
output:
'foo' or 'foo.py' or 'path/to/foo' etc.
Possible?
Thanks,
Tobiah
if what you mean by 'importer' is the one that really cause py to load
the mod, then why not dynamically set it?
foo.py
--
import bar, sys
if '_importer' not in bar.__dict__: bar._importer =
sys.modules[__name__]
bar.py
--
def show_importer(): return _importer
or
you could borrow space from builtins. i don't know if it breaks any
rule ;)
foo.py
--
def set_importer(mod):
bdict = (__builtins__.__dict__ if __name__ == '__main__' else
__builtins__)
if '_importer' not in bdict:
bdict['_importer'] = {mod : sys.modules[__name__]}
else:
if mod not in bdict:
bdict['_importer'][mod] = sys.modules[__name__]
import bar
set_importer(bar)
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Re: Getting pyparsing to backtrack
On 7/5/2010 3:19 PM, John Nagle wrote: I'm working on street address parsing again, and I'm trying to deal with some of the harder cases. The approach below works for the cases given. The Or operator (^) supports backtracking, but Optional() apparently does not. direction = Combine(MatchFirst(map(CaselessKeyword, directionals)) + Optional(.).suppress()) streetNameOnly = Combine(OneOrMore(Word(alphanums)), adjacent=False, joinString= ).setResultsName(streetname) streetNameParser = ((direction.setResultsName(predirectional) + streetNameOnly) ^ streetNameOnly) John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: delegation pattern via descriptor
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:12:47 -0700, kedra marbun wrote:
On Jul 5, 7:49 am, Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
kedra marbun wrote:
now, i'm asking another favor, what about the 2nd point in my 1st
post?
Your original post has dropped off my newsscope, so you'll have to
remind me what the 2nd point was.
--
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it's like 'name', it's about info that i think should be passed to
descriptor's __{get|set|delete}__. i wonder what are the reasons for not
passing the class on which the descriptor is attached to, what pattern
is encouraged by this?
Perhaps I'm missing the context, but since the descriptor is passed the
instance, you can easily get the class with type(self) or self.__class__.
There's no need to pass the class as a separate argument.
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Re: delegation pattern via descriptor
On Monday 05 July 2010 21:10:51 kedra marbun wrote: On Jul 5, 3:42 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers bruno. 42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid wrote: kedra marbun a écrit : i'm confused which part that doesn't make sense? this is my 2nd attempt to py, the 1st was on april this year, it was just a month, i'm afraid i haven't got the fundamentals right yet. so i'm gonna lay out how i got to this conclusion, CMIIW **explanation of feeling (0) on my 1st post** to me, descriptor is a particular kind of delegation, it takes the job of coding the delegation by having a contract with programmers that the tree meta operations (get, set, del) on attr are delegated to the obj that is bound to the attr are we agree that descriptor is a kind of delegation? the mechanism that makes descriptor works is in __getattribute__, __setattr__, __delattr__ of 'object' 'type' now, if i want a single descriptor obj to be delegated to multiple tasks, i can't do it since __get__ doesn't get info that can be used to determine which task to do i must have diff descriptor obj for each task class Helper: def __init__(self, name): self.name = name def __get__(self, ins, cls): if self.name == 'task0': ... elif self.name == 'task1': ... else: ... Replacing such big switch code with polymorphic dispatch is one of the goals (and feature) of OO. This should be: class Task0(object): def __get__(self, obj, cls): # code here class Task1(object): def __get__(self, obj, cls): # code here class A(object): task0 = Task0() task1 = Task1() If you have common code to share between TaskO and Task1 then factor it out into a base class. if __get__ receives the name, then i could do class Helper: def __get__(self, ins, cls, name): ... class a: task0 = task1 = Helper() Yuck. what's so 'Yuck' about it? ;) i guess i need a strong stmt: is descriptor a kind of delegation? or is it not? Thanks for posting the code sample -- it makes your meaning a great deal clearer. No, descriptors are not delegation as in your sample**, although they are very flexible and could be used to implement that if you wanted. * if it's not, then there's nothing to be argued, the name 'descriptor' is perfectly fit: descriptor obj describes attr of class, with 'describe' translates to: . = del, in py vocabularies. then, to think a single descriptor obj describing a single attr is acceptable, it's a common sense ** As I understand it, anyway -- someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Rami Chowdhury Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor +1-408-597-7068 / +44-7875-841-046 / +88-01819-245544 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The real problem with Python 3 - no business case for conversion (was I strongly dislike Python 3)
On 7/5/2010 9:00 PM, Philip Semanchuk wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Philip Semanchuk I ported two pure C extensions from 2 to 3 and was even able to keep a single C codebase. I'd be willing to contribute my experiences to a document somewhere. (Is there a Wiki?) Indeed there is: http://wiki.python.org/moin/ Thanks. I don't want to appear ungrateful, but I was hoping for something specific to the 2-to-3 conversion. I guess someone has to start somewhere... There is an existing 2to3 and other pages for Python code conversion. I do not know of any for CAPI conversion. The need for such has been acknowledged among the devs but if there is nothing yet, we need someone with specialized experience and a bit of time to make a first draft. If you start one, give it an easy to remember name C2to3? 2to3Capi? You choose. And link to it from the 2to3 page In his post on this thread, Martin Loewis volunteered to list what he knows from psycopg2 if someone else will edit. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue3802] smtpd.py __getaddr insufficient handling
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment: Note there is a patch inline, not sure if a doc patch is needed for this. -- keywords: +patch nosy: +BreamoreBoy stage: - unit test needed type: - behavior ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue3802 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue3964] quiet the freeze makefile
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment: Assuming the patch works (I don't do makefiles) would anyone use this yes or no? -- nosy: +BreamoreBoy ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue3964 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9162] License for multiprocessing files
New submission from Michael Fladischer mich...@fladi.at: The files in Lib/multiprocessing (except __init__.py) are referring to their license by point to a nonexistent file called COPYING.txt. This possibly needs clarification as if this file is missing or the license is to be found somewhere else. -- components: Library (Lib) messages: 109306 nosy: FladischerMichael priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: License for multiprocessing files ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9162 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9162] License for multiprocessing files
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[issue9160] Documentation link of 3.2 not working at docs.python.org
anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment: For me only http://www.python.org/doc/3.1.1/ gives 403. Seems like all other links should be updated from http://www.python.org/doc/2.3.2/ to http://docs.python.org/release/2.3.2/ format to avoid additional redirect. -- nosy: +techtonik ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9160 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9160] Documentation link of 3.2 not working at docs.python.org
Georg Brandl ge...@python.org added the comment: 3.1.1 docs are fixed. Development docs will be rebuilt soon automatically; after that everything should work again. -- nosy: +georg.brandl resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9160 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9136] RuntimeError when profiling Decimal
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment: I don't quite understand the point of catching NameError here So that the initialization of DefaultContext itself doesn't fail. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9136 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9161] add_option in optparse no longer accepts unicode string
Craig McQueen pyt...@craig.mcqueen.id.au added the comment:
To further explain, I had code e.g.:
parser.add_option(u'-s', u'--seqfile', dest='seq_file_name', help=u'Write
sequence file output to FILE', metavar=u'FILE')
I had to remove the unicode designator for the first parameter:
parser.add_option('-s', u'--seqfile', dest='seq_file_name', help=u'Write
sequence file output to FILE', metavar=u'FILE')
On further investigation, it looks as though the optparse module has other
problems with Unicode: e.g. if I try to set a non-ASCII parameter on the
command line e.g.:
myprog.py -本
Then optparse can't handle that--it gets an encoding error on line 1396.
What _does_ work is that an option's parameters can be Unicode:
myprog.py -s 本.txt
So I guess there are broader problems than the specific 2.6 to 2.7 change that
I originally reported.
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[issue9163] test_gdb fails
New submission from Michael Blume blume.m...@gmail.com:
After building Python 2.7 on two separate X68 Ubuntu boxes, test_gdb failed
both times.
./configure
make
make test
output follows:
test_gdb
test test_gdb failed -- Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/mike/workspace/Python-2.7/Lib/test/test_gdb.py, line 637, in
test_basic_command
''')
File /home/mike/workspace/Python-2.7/Lib/test/test_gdb.py, line 163, in
assertMultilineMatches
msg='%r did not match %r' % (actual, pattern))
AssertionError: 'Breakpoint 1 at 0x80957d6: file Objects/object.c, line
329.\n[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]\n\nBreakpoint 1,
PyObject_Print (op=42, fp=0x401cf4e0, flags=1) at
Objects/object.c:329\n329\t{\n#3 Frame 0x81e322c, for file
/home/mike/workspace/Python-2.7/Lib/test/gdb_sample.py, line 10, in baz
(args=(1, 2, 3))\nprint(42)\n#7 (unable to read python frame
information)\n#10 Frame 0x81d5544, for file
/home/mike/workspace/Python-2.7/Lib/test/gdb_sample.py, line 7, in bar (a=1,
b=2, c=3)\nbaz(a, b, c)\n#13 Frame 0x81d53dc, for file
/home/mike/workspace/Python-2.7/Lib/test/gdb_sample.py, line 4, in foo (a=1,
b=2, c=3)\nbar(a, b, c)\n' did not match '^.*\n#[0-9]+ Frame 0x[0-9a-f]+,
for file .*gdb_sample.py, line 7, in bar \\(a=1, b=2, c=3\\)\nbaz\\(a, b,
c\\)\n#[0-9]+ Frame 0x[0-9a-f]+, for file .*gdb_sample.py, line 4, in foo
\\(a=1, b=2, c=3\\)\nbar\\(a, b, c\\)\n#[0-9]+ Frame 0x[0-9a-f]+, for file
.*gdb_sample.py, line 12, in module
\\(\\)\nfoo\\(1, 2, 3\\)\n'
machines have the following packages installed, with the following versions:
gdb 7.1-1ubuntu2
libgdb-dev 7.1-1ubuntu2
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priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: test_gdb fails
versions: Python 2.7
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