Certificate generator

2013-11-03 Thread Facundo Batista
A certificate generator, from a SVG to a lot of PDFs:

https://github.com/facundobatista/certg

Documentation (it's very simple to use) and a full fledged example, in
the project ^.

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devpi 1.2 releases: many improvements + py33 support

2013-11-03 Thread holger krekel
The devpi-{server,client}-1.2 releases bring a lot of refinements
and improvements for serving and interacting with your own pypi indexes:

- devpi-server serves release files from URLs containing a MD5 hash
  allowing safe serving of those files through nginx

- devpi-server's USER/INDEX urls can now be used directly with 
  pip/easy_install without the previously required (and still valid)
  ``+simple/`` suffix.

- ``devpi use --set-cfg`` reads and writes pip/easy_install 
  configuration files, making those installers pick up the in-use
  index seemlessly.  You can even do ``devpi use --always-set-cfg`` to 
  always set those config files when issuing a devpi use afterwards.

- ``devpi upload`` got many improvements:

  - versioned files (git and hg) will be exported to a clean directory prior to 
the build step
  - distutils/setup.py is now only used for building a package
  - documentation upload is tied to a version now
  - you can directly upload distribution files, including wheel files

- both devpi-server and devpi-client are python3.3 compatible now and 
  depend on a new devpi-common package which consolidates various 
  pypi-interaction aspects to avoid code duplication.  Also,
  global http proxy settings are honoured.

If you have an existing devpi-server-1.1 installation serving
your own packages you can install devpi-server=1.2 and 
migrate the data with::

devpi-server --upgrade-state [--serverdir your_server_dir]

This upgrades your server state in-place.  Please make sure you
backup your serverdir ahead of doing the upgrade (default location 
is ~/.devpi/server).

WARNING: ``devpi-server --gendeploy`` is deprecated and will be removed 
probably in favor of just generating example config files for 
nginx/supervisor/cron. Also ``devpi install`` is deprecated now 
in favor of using pip/easy_install directly (see also the --set-cfg
and --always-set-cfg options).

For more information please refer to the extensive documentation at:

http://doc.devpi.net/

or check the CHANGELOG below.

have fun,

holger krekel


1.2


devpi-server:

- serve links to files on simple pages and index root as relative
  paths so that it works more nicely with proxy-pass server setups.
  fixes issue56.

- make devpi-server and devpi-common python3.3 compatible, addresses
  issue57

- use system http/s proxy settings from devpi-server.  fixes issue58.

- refactor locations to allow nginx serving static files more directly.
  Also updated nginx template accordingly.

- rework --upgrade-state to detect the state version of the server dir
  and create an appropriate virtualenv with a devpi-server install in order
  to export data, and then import that version.

- allow to use /user/index as indexserver url for pip/easy_install by
  redirecting non-json queries to /user/index/PROJ[/] to 
  /user/index/+simple/PROJ/

- fix submission of multi-value fields like classifiers or platform
  (previously they would be wrongly collapsed to become the last value of a 
list)

- fix normalization import/export issue: pypi names take precendence
  for defining the real name of a project.

- always store uploaded documentation with a version.  While 
  devpi upload will make sure to pass in the version, setup.py upload_docs
  will not pass in a version.  In the latter case, devpi-server assumes
  the documentation belongs to the highest yet registered release.
  This change requires exporting with devpi-1.1 and importing with devpi-1.2
  in order to properly store versioned docs internally.

- use types/url/metadata/validation functionality of new depdency devpi_common 

- internal cleanup using pytest-flakes

- make devpi-server use a proper UserAgent string

devpi-client:

- devpi list and devpi remove now accept a pip/setuptools style
  requirement like pkg=1.0 instead of the former for limited pkg-1.0.

- make devpi-client fully work with python3.3 and fix test bugs 

- use system http/s proxy settings.  fixes issue58.

- add devpi test -c tox.ini package to use a particular (external)
  tox.ini for running tox with the unpackaged package.
  also add --fallback-ini tox.ini option which will only 
  be used if the download package has no tox.ini.

- new devpi use --set-cfg option to set pip/easy_install configuration
  files when changing indexes.  Also new devpi use --always-set-cfg=yes
  option if you want to imply --set-cfg on future devpi use invocations
  and devpi use --always-st-cfg=no to disable this implication.

- support git and hg for exporting all versioned files of a directory 
  before performing the build step when uploading

- improve how upload works: setup.py is only used for building docs
  and release files but not for the remote upload part.  This gets rid of a 
  number of hacks that were done trying to get the Python shipped distutils 
  to pick the proper devpi index and allows proper SSL verification on Python2.6
  onwards.

- upload: show response when uploading 

ANN: NumPy 1.8.0 release.

2013-11-03 Thread Charles R Harris
I am pleased to announce the availability of NumPy 1.8.0. This release is
the culmination of over a years worth of work by the NumPy team and
contains many fixes, enhancements, and new features. Highlights are:

   - New, no 2to3, Python 2 and Python 3 are supported by a common code
   base.
   - New, gufuncs for linear algebra, enabling operations on stacked arrays.
   - New, inplace fancy indexing for ufuncs with the ``.at`` method.
   - New, ``partition`` function, partial sorting via selection for fast
   median.
   - New, ``nanmean``, ``nanvar``, and ``nanstd`` functions skipping NaNs.
   - New, ``full`` and ``full_like`` functions to create value initialized
   arrays.
   - New, ``PyUFunc_RegisterLoopForDescr``, better ufunc support for user
   dtypes.
   - Numerous performance improvements in many areas.

This release requires Python 2.6, 2.7 or 3.2-3.3, support for Python 2.4
and 2.5 has been dropped. Sources and binaries can be found at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy/files/NumPy/1.8.0/.

Some 119 people contributed to this release. This is a remarkable increase
and shows that there is still life in this venerable code that had its
beginning in Numeric some 18 years ago. Many thanks to you all.

Enjoy,

Chuck


NumPy 1.8.0 Release Notes
*

This release supports  Python 2.6 -2.7 and 3.2 - 3.3.


Highlights
==


* New, no 2to3, Python 2 and Python 3 are supported by a common code base.
* New, gufuncs for linear algebra, enabling operations on stacked arrays.
* New, inplace fancy indexing for ufuncs with the ``.at`` method.
* New, ``partition`` function, partial sorting via selection for fast
median.
* New, ``nanmean``, ``nanvar``, and ``nanstd`` functions skipping NaNs.
* New, ``full`` and ``full_like`` functions to create value initialized
arrays.
* New, ``PyUFunc_RegisterLoopForDescr``, better ufunc support for user
dtypes.
* Numerous performance improvements in many areas.


Dropped Support
===


Support for Python versions 2.4 and 2.5 has been dropped,

Support for SCons has been removed.


Future Changes
==


The Datetime64 type remains experimental in this release. In 1.9 there will
probably be some changes to make it more useable.

The diagonal method currently returns a new array and raises a
FutureWarning. In 1.9 it will return a readonly view.

Multiple field selection from a array of structured type currently
returns a new array and raises a FutureWarning. In 1.9 it will return a
readonly view.

The numpy/oldnumeric and numpy/numarray compatibility modules will be
removed in 1.9.


Compatibility notes
===


The doc/sphinxext content has been moved into its own github repository,
and is included in numpy as a submodule. See the instructions in
doc/HOWTO_BUILD_DOCS.rst.txt for how to access the content.

.. _numpydoc: https://github.com/numpy/numpydoc

The hash function of numpy.void scalars has been changed.  Previously the
pointer to the data was hashed as an integer.  Now, the hash function uses
the tuple-hash algorithm to combine the hash functions of the elements of
the scalar, but only if the scalar is read-only.

Numpy has switched its build system to using 'separate compilation' by
default.  In previous releases this was supported, but not default. This
should produce the same results as the old system, but if you're trying to
do something complicated like link numpy statically or using an unusual
compiler, then it's possible you will encounter problems. If so, please
file a bug and as a temporary workaround you can re-enable the old build
system by exporting the shell variable NPY_SEPARATE_COMPILATION=0.

For the AdvancedNew iterator the ``oa_ndim`` flag should now be -1 to
indicate
that no ``op_axes`` and ``itershape`` are passed in. The ``oa_ndim == 0``
case, now indicates a 0-D iteration and ``op_axes`` being NULL and the old
usage is deprecated. This does not effect the ``NpyIter_New`` or
``NpyIter_MultiNew`` functions.

The functions nanargmin and nanargmax now return np.iinfo['intp'].min for
the index in all-NaN slices. Previously the functions would raise a
ValueError
for array returns and NaN for scalar returns.

NPY_RELAXED_STRIDES_CHECKING

There is a new compile time environment variable
``NPY_RELAXED_STRIDES_CHECKING``. If this variable is set to 1, then
numpy will consider more arrays to be C- or F-contiguous -- for
example, it becomes possible to have a column vector which is
considered both C- and F-contiguous simultaneously. The new definition
is more accurate, allows for faster code that makes fewer unnecessary
copies, and simplifies numpy's code internally. However, it may also
break third-party libraries that make too-strong assumptions about the
stride values of C- and F-contiguous arrays. (It is also currently
known that this breaks Cython code using memoryviews, which will be
fixed in Cython.) THIS WILL BECOME THE DEFAULT IN A FUTURE RELEASE, SO
PLEASE 

Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
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  Thanks for all of the comments. I have been away from my Internet 
connection for several days and could not respond to them when they were 
first posted here.


  The comments have all been considered. And I am discussing them with 
other researchers that I work with. Since Perl has a calculation speed limit 
that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another language 
will be selected for initially doing certain things such as performing 
calculations and plotting charts. And the existing Perl code might then be 
gradually translated into that new language.


  Gnuplot is presently being used to draw charts. And it works. But it 
has its own limitations such as with its interaction speed when it is used 
for working with Perl program generated data files.


  My main, complex programs won't be run at Web sites. They will 
instead continue to be available as downloadable exe programs.  The CGI (or 
whatever) programming work would involve relatively simple programs. But 
they would need to be able to generate charts that would be displayed on Web 
pages. That sounds like it is probably fairly easy to do using Python. A 
Perl - Gnuplot combination is also supposed to be able to do that. But so 
far I have not seen any good explanations for how to actually get Gnuplot to 
run as a callable CGI program. So other programs such as Python are being 
considered.


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Re: How to add a current string into an already existing list

2013-11-03 Thread Gregory Ewing

Nick the Gr33k wrote:
I just want a mysql column type that can be eligible to store an array 
of elements, a list that is, no need for having a seperate extra table 
for that if we can have a column that can store a list of values.


Relational database systems typically don't provide any
such type, because it's not the recommended way of storing
that kind of data in a relational database.

The recommended way is to use a secondary table, as has
been pointed out.

You're making things difficult for yourself by refusing
to consider that solution.

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zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Peter Cacioppi
Python makes it very easy to turn a zero argument member function into a 
property (hooray!) by simply adding the @property decorator. 

(Meme for well thought py feature - Guido was here)

But the ease with which you can do this makes the zero argument member 
function or property discussion trickier for me. 

Generally my sense here is there are two extremes

1- the zero argument function is sort of factory-like. It potentially has 
non-trivial run time, or it substitutes calling a class constructor when 
building certain objects. 
2- it simply retrieves a stored value (perhaps lazily evaluating it first)

so 1 should clearly be a zero argument member function. 2 should be a method.

Other than that, I say when in doubt, go with zero argument method. In 
particular something in my gut says that if the thing I'm returning is itself a 
function, than don't go with property. In other words

foo.bar()(x) 

self documents that bar returns a function whereas 

foo.bar(x)

looks like bar is a one argument member function of foo, as opposed to a 
property that returns a 1 argument  function

I also think that foo.size() implies that foo performs a count every time it's 
called, and foo.size implies that the run time will amortize to O(1) somehow 
(usually with lazy eval). So the implementation should drive the property or 
not decision.

Sound a bit right?

Seems like some of the energetic posters will have fun with this one, re:less.
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Re: zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Peter Cacioppi
I just said 


1- the zero argument function is sort of factory-like. It potentially has 
non-trivial run time, or it substitutes calling a class constructor when 
building certain objects.
2- it simply retrieves a stored value (perhaps lazily evaluating it first)

so 1 should clearly be a zero argument member function. 2 should be a method. 

typo. Obviously, 2 should be a property.
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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message 
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https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pywinauto/0.3.9 or 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1823762/sendkeys-for-python-3-1-on-windows


Python SendKey looks like it probably works about the same as the Perl 
version. It prints or sends control information to the active window.



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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
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If you look here:   http://wiki.wxpython.org/MatplotlibFourierDemo


  A suggestion that I would like to add is that when people make Demo 
programs like that available they might want to create exe versions that 
people can download and try without installing the original programming 
language.  However, there might have been an exe version at that Web site 
and I just didn't see it.


  I myself use expendable backup computers (Windows XP) for testing new 
exe programs so that problems are not created for my primary computer.  If 
something goes wrong on one of the backup systems it is simply told to go 
back to an earlier restore point.


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Re: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Janssen
 Congratulations Jonas.  My kill file for this list used to have only one
 name, but now has 2.

 You have more patience than I!  Jonas just made mine seven.  :)

Gosh, don't kill the guy.  It's not an obvious thing to hardly anyone
but computer scientists.  It's an easy mistake to make.

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Re: zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 23:09:09 -0700, Peter Cacioppi wrote:

 Python makes it very easy to turn a zero argument member function into a
 property (hooray!) by simply adding the @property decorator.
 
 (Meme for well thought py feature - Guido was here)

It is well-thought out, but it's also quite late in Python's history. 
Properties didn't get added until new style classes and descriptors, 
which was in version 2.2. I'm not sure if it's Guido to thank for them.


 But the ease with which you can do this makes the zero argument member
 function or property discussion trickier for me.
 
 Generally my sense here is there are two extremes
 
 1- the zero argument function is sort of factory-like. It potentially
 has non-trivial run time, or it substitutes calling a class constructor
 when building certain objects. 2- it simply retrieves a stored value
 (perhaps lazily evaluating it first)


I normally go with something like this:

Something with a significant overhead (e.g. memory or running time) 
should be a method. The fact that you have to call it is a hint that it 
may require non-trivial resources/time to perform.

On the other hand, something that feels like it ought to be an inherent 
attribute of an object should be a property if you need it to be lazily 
calculated, or a standard attribute if you want to give direct access to 
it.

For example, imagine an object representing a printable page. The paper 
size (A4, A3, foolscap, etc.) is an inherent attribute of a page, so it 
ought to be accessed using attribute notation:

mypage.size

If this is lazily generated, or if you want to protect the attribute with 
data validation, you should use a property. Otherwise, an ordinary data 
attribute is acceptable. (This isn't Java or Ruby, where data-hiding is 
compulsory :-)

On the other hand, the Postscript image of the page is not inherent to 
the page, and it is also expensive to generate. So it ought to be 
generated lazily, only when needed, but using method notation:

mypage.postscript()


Page margins are intermediate. They feel kind of inherent to a page, but 
not exactly -- in a complex document, the margins may depend on the 
section you are in. Margins can vary depending on whether the page is at 
the left or the right. So page margins probably ought to be computed 
attributes. But they probably won't be terribly expensive to compute. So 
here I would again go with a property, assuming the page object knows 
whether it is on the left or the right, and which section it belongs to. 
But if somebody else decided that margins ought to be an explicit method, 
I wouldn't consider them wrong. It is a matter of personal taste.


[...]
 I also think that foo.size() implies that foo performs a count every
 time it's called, and foo.size implies that the run time will amortize
 to O(1) somehow (usually with lazy eval). So the implementation should
 drive the property or not decision.

I think that is reasonable. 


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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread rusi
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:15:48 AM UTC+5:30, E.D.G. wrote:
 rusi  wrote:

 Not sure what will… you may look at Julia: http://julialang.org/

That program language speed comparison table looks quite interesting. 
 And I asked some of the other people that I work with to take a look at the 
 Web page. One or two of them might want to consider using it instead of 
 XBasic assuming the calculation speeds and chart generation capabilities are 
 at least roughly equal. If either of them decides to move in that direction 
 I will probably try using it myself.

And please post back your findings when you have some concrete data

For the record I have exactly zero experience with Julia.
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Re: zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Peter Cacioppi
Steve said:

(This isn't Java or Ruby, where data-hiding is compulsory :-)   (You could 
add C++ and C# to this list).

This is golden nugget for me. The old synapses are pretty well grooved to think 
of data hiding as good hygiene. Even though I've read a fair bit of Python text 
I still need to be reminded of the little idiomatic differences between Py and 
all the languages made obsolete by Py ;) Thanks.






 

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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:02:24 -0500, E.D.G. wrote:

[...]
 Since Perl has a calculation speed
 limit that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another
 language will be selected for initially doing certain things such as
 performing calculations and plotting charts. And the existing Perl code
 might then be gradually translated into that new language.

The nice things about Python are that it makes a great glue language for 
putting together components written in low-level languages like C and 
Fortran, and that there is a rich ecosystem of products for speeding it
up in various ways. So when you hit the speed limits of pure Python, you
have lots of options. In no particular order:


* try using another Python compiler: PyPy is probably the most 
  mature of the stand-alone optimizing compilers, and you can 
  expect to double the speed of typical Python code, but 
  there are others;

* use numpy and scipy for vectorized mathematical routines;

* re-write critical code as C or Fortran libraries;

* use Pyrex (possibly unmaintained now) or Cython to write
  C extensions in a Python-like language;

* use Psyco or Numba (JIT specialising compilers for Python);

* use Theano (optimizing computer algebra system compiler);

* use ctypes to call C functions directly;

* use other products like Boost, Weave, and more.


See, for example:

http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/06/15/numba-vs-cython-take-2/

http://technicaldiscovery.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/speeding-up-python-numpy-cython-and.html



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Re: zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Peter Cacioppi
Steve said:

(This isn't Java or Ruby, where data-hiding is compulsory :-)  

At the risk of striking a sessile equine, when the attribute shouldn't be 
modified directly by client code, then you hide it and use a property to allow 
client code access. It is the idiom of allowing client code to edit read-write 
data directly via attributes that is pythonic, even though discouraged 
(somewhat) in other languages. 

Actually C# is mature enough for this idiom. C# and Python both support 
getter/setter methods that present as direct attribute access to client code, 
and thus allow you to refactor the class without breaking backwards 
compatibility.

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Re: zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Peter Cacioppi peter.cacio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually C# is mature enough for this idiom. C# and Python both support 
 getter/setter methods that present as direct attribute access to client code, 
 and thus allow you to refactor the class without breaking backwards 
 compatibility.

It's not as clear-cut as it looks in C#.  Although refactoring the
class in this way doesn't change the API, it does break ABI, which is
significant in an environment where virtually everything is
distributed in binary form.  This happens because a property access
compiled to CIL byte code is transformed into a call to a getter or
setter method, which is a distinct operation from an ordinary
attribute access.  Whereas in Python, an attribute access is just
compiled as an attribute access no matter what the underlying
implementation of that access may end up being at run-time.
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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread E.D.G.
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote in message 
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http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/06/15/numba-vs-cython-take-2/

http://technicaldiscovery.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/speeding-up-python-numpy-cython-and.html


  It appears that Python can do what is needed.  And if the people that 
I work with want to move in that direction I will probably post a note here 
stating, This is exactly what we need to do.  What would be the best Python 
download and compiler to do that?


 It should be a simple matter to determine which compiler and libraries 
etc. should be used.


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Re: How to add a current string into an already existing list

2013-11-03 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 03-11-13 07:06, Gregory Ewing schreef:
 Nick the Gr33k wrote:
 I just want a mysql column type that can be eligible to store an array of 
 elements, a list that is, no need for having a seperate extra table for that 
 if we can have a column that can store a list of values.
 
 Relational database systems typically don't provide any
 such type, because it's not the recommended way of storing
 that kind of data in a relational database.
 
 The recommended way is to use a secondary table, as has
 been pointed out.
 
 You're making things difficult for yourself by refusing
 to consider that solution.
 
You are talking to Nikos! The person who choose code because
he prefers how it looks over examples of working code.

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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 03/11/2013 09:47, E.D.G. wrote:

Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote in
message news:5275fe91$0$29972$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com...


http://jakevdp.github.io/blog/2013/06/15/numba-vs-cython-take-2/

http://technicaldiscovery.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/speeding-up-python-numpy-cython-and.html



   It appears that Python can do what is needed.  And if the people
that I work with want to move in that direction I will probably post a
note here stating, This is exactly what we need to do.  What would be
the best Python download and compiler to do that?

  It should be a simple matter to determine which compiler and
libraries etc. should be used.



I've literally just stumbled across this, I've no idea whether it's of 
any use to you https://speakerdeck.com/ianozsvald/high-performance-python


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Re: multiprocessing: child process race to answer

2013-11-03 Thread cappleman
On Friday, November 1, 2013 10:35:47 PM UTC-4, smhall05 wrote:
 I am using a basic multiprocessing snippet I found:
 
 
 
 #-
 
 from multiprocessing import Pool
 
 
 
 def  f(x):
 
 return x*x
 
 
 
 if __name__ == '__main__':
 
 pool = Pool(processes=4)  # start 4 worker processes
 
 result = pool.apply_async(f, [10])# evaluate f(10) asynchronously
 
 print result.get(timeout=1)   
 
 print pool.map(f, range(10))  # prints [0, 1, 4,..., 81]
 
 #-
 
 
 
 I am using this code to have each process go off and solve the same problem, 
 just with different inputs to the problem. I need to be able to kill all 
 processes once 1 of n processes has come up with the solution. There will 
 only be one answer.
 
 
 
 I have tried:
 
 
 
 sys.exit(0) #this causes the program to hang
 
 pool.close()
 
 pool.terminate
 
 
 
 These still allow further processing before the program terminates. What else 
 can I try? I am not able to share the exact code at this time. I can provide 
 more detail if I am unclear. Thank you

You could take a look at the Mutiprocessing module capabilities for exchanging 
objects between processes:

http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/multiprocessing.html#exchanging-objects-between-processes
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Re: multiprocessing: child process race to answer

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 03/11/2013 10:10, capple...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, November 1, 2013 10:35:47 PM UTC-4, smhall05 wrote:

I am using a basic multiprocessing snippet I found:



#-

from multiprocessing import Pool



def  f(x):

 return x*x



if __name__ == '__main__':

 pool = Pool(processes=4)  # start 4 worker processes

 result = pool.apply_async(f, [10])# evaluate f(10) asynchronously

 print result.get(timeout=1)

 print pool.map(f, range(10))  # prints [0, 1, 4,..., 81]

#-



I am using this code to have each process go off and solve the same problem, 
just with different inputs to the problem. I need to be able to kill all 
processes once 1 of n processes has come up with the solution. There will only 
be one answer.



I have tried:



sys.exit(0) #this causes the program to hang

pool.close()

pool.terminate



These still allow further processing before the program terminates. What else 
can I try? I am not able to share the exact code at this time. I can provide 
more detail if I am unclear. Thank you


You could take a look at the Mutiprocessing module capabilities for exchanging 
objects between processes:

http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/multiprocessing.html#exchanging-objects-between-processes



Would you please read and action this as it prevents the double line 
spacing that you can observe above, thanks 
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython


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Re: Debugging decorator

2013-11-03 Thread Jason Friedman
 I wrote this decorator: https://gist.github.com/yasar11732/7163528

 I ran it with Python 2 and thought it was neat.
Most of my work is Python 3.
I ran 2to3-3.3 against it and I am getting this error:

$ ./simple.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./simple.py, line 3, in module
@debugger.debugging
  File /home/jason/python/debugger.py, line 41, in debugging
new_function_body.append(make_print_node(function %s called %
func.__name__))
  File /home/jason/python/debugger.py, line 6, in make_print_node
return ast.Print(dest=None, values=[ast.Str(s=s)], nl=True)
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Print'

Comparing http://docs.python.org/2/library/ast.html#module-ast against
http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/ast.html#module-ast I see that Print
has indeed been removed.
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Re: Parsing multiple lines from text file using regex

2013-11-03 Thread Jason Friedman
  Hi,
 I am having an issue with something that would seem to have an easy
 solution, but which escapes me.  I have configuration files that I would
 like to parse.  The data I am having issue with is a multi-line attribute
 that has the following structure:

 banner option banner text delimiter
 Banner text
 Banner text
 Banner text
 ...
 banner text delimiter

This is an alternative solution someone else posted on this list for a
similar problem I had:

#!/usr/bin/python3
from itertools import groupby
def get_lines_from_file(file_name):
with open(file_name) as reader:
for line in reader.readlines():
yield(line.strip())

counter = 0
def key_func(x):
if x.strip().startswith(banner) and x.strip().endswith(banner text
delimiter):
global counter
counter += 1
return counter

for key, group in groupby(get_lines_from_file(my_data), key_func):
print(list(group)[1:-1])
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Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-11-03 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 03-11-13 06:17, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
 On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:22:38 +, Joshua Landau wrote:
 [...]
 Sure, you in all probability didn't mean it like that but rurpy isn't
 uncalled for in raising the concern. Really I just want to remind you
 that you're both on the same side here.
 
 Thanks for the comments Joshua, but I'm afraid I cannot agree. I gave it 
 a lot of thought and I cannot continue to give Rurpy the presumption of 
 good faith any longer. This saddens me, but that's the way it is.
 
 I'm trying hard to give up threads like this, where people debate the 
 subjective tone of an email and ever more pedantic arguments about the 
 precise wording. Even when all participants are arguing in good faith, 
 they risk becoming quagmires which go nowhere in dozens of posts.

I'm not so sure it is all in good faith. I see a lot of persons digging
in their heels and not much effort in trying to understand someone else's
point of view.

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Re: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.

2013-11-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 November 2013 04:40:45 Ethan Furman did opine:

 On 10/30/2013 01:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  Congratulations Jonas.  My kill file for this list used to have only
  one name, but now has 2.
 
 You have more patience than I!  Jonas just made mine seven.  :)
 
 --
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Yeah, well there are a couple others in the mugwump category here yet.  I 
lurk here to try and learn, and baseless arguments are just noise. To be 
filtered.  And its working!

But it may be that this old dog has learned his last new trick in the 
language arena too, too many irons in the fire, and fine tuning machinery 
to run the GCode I write to carve metal or wood is the primary interest 
ATM.  At 79yo, the short term memory needs help.  I'm smart enough to 
understand that, but it doesn't mean I like it.  Its a right PIMA TBE.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop

2013-11-03 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 02-11-13 21:19, Tim Roberts schreef:
 jonas.thornv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I certainly do not like the old bracket style it was a catastrophe, but 
 in honesty the gui editor of python should have what i propose, a parser
 that indent automaticly at loops, functions and end.
 
 Many editors do that.  Vim, which is what I use, certainly does.
 
 I promise you it will save millions of hours of bug searching all over 
 world in a month.
 
 I suspect you meant dozens rather than millions...
 
 Look, both schemes have their pitfalls.  With an end requirement, it's
 easy to have code where the indenting doesn't match the actual nesting, and
 that causes human confusion.

Not really. All examples of this kind of confusion I have seem come from
C where the problem IMO comes from the fact that people can choose to put
one statement after a control structure or a block.

I have programmed sometime in modula2 and this mismatch was just not a
big deal in that language because such a mismatch usualy resulted in
an end missing and the code not compiling, which resolves the confusion
rather quickly.

Now of course I can mis something. Maybe you can provide an example that
would be confusing even with modula2 kind of control structures and still
compile and produce a hard to trace bug.

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Re: How to add a current string into an already existing list

2013-11-03 Thread Roy Smith
In article bdm7fif28r...@mid.individual.net,
 Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:

 Nick the Gr33k wrote:
  I just want a mysql column type that can be eligible to store an array 
  of elements, a list that is, no need for having a seperate extra table 
  for that if we can have a column that can store a list of values.
 
 Relational database systems typically don't provide any
 such type, because it's not the recommended way of storing
 that kind of data in a relational database.
 
 The recommended way is to use a secondary table, as has
 been pointed out.

Most SQL databases allow you to store arbitrary data as an opaque value 
(i.e. BLOB).  So, one possibility would be to just serialize your list 
(pickle, json, whatever) and store it that way.  I've seen databases 
that didn't use BLOB, but just stored json in a string field.

The limitation, of course, is that the data is opaque as far as the 
database goes; you can't do queries against it.  But, if all you need to 
do is store the list and be able to retrieve it, it's a perfectly 
reasonable thing to do, and a lot more efficient than doing a join on a 
secondary table.

Normalization is for database weenies :-)
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop

2013-11-03 Thread jonas . thornvall
Den lördagen den 2:e november 2013 kl. 21:19:44 UTC+1 skrev Tim Roberts:
 jonas.thornv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 I certainly do not like the old bracket style it was a catastrophe, but 
 
 in honesty the gui editor of python should have what i propose, a parser
 
 that indent automaticly at loops, functions and end.
 
 
 
 Many editors do that.  Vim, which is what I use, certainly does.
 
 
 
 I promise you it will save millions of hours of bug searching all over 
 
 world in a month.
 
 
 
 I suspect you meant dozens rather than millions...
 
 
 
 Look, both schemes have their pitfalls.  With an end requirement, it's
 
 easy to have code where the indenting doesn't match the actual nesting, and
 
 that causes human confusion.  Without the end requirement, it's not hard
 
 to type code where you forget to dedent.  Those are just two manifestations
 
 of the exact same problem.  Neither scheme is provably superior to the
 
 other.  It's just a choice that a language designer has to make.
 
 
 
 I happen to like Python's choice.  You'll get used to it.
 
 -- 
 
 Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com
 
 Providenza  Boekelheide, Inc.

What does Vim stand for Voyager interstellar mission?
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop

2013-11-03 Thread jonas . thornvall
Den lördagen den 2:e november 2013 kl. 21:19:44 UTC+1 skrev Tim Roberts:
 jonas.thornv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 I certainly do not like the old bracket style it was a catastrophe, but 
 
 in honesty the gui editor of python should have what i propose, a parser
 
 that indent automaticly at loops, functions and end.
 
 
 
 Many editors do that.  Vim, which is what I use, certainly does.
 
 
 
 I promise you it will save millions of hours of bug searching all over 
 
 world in a month.
 
 
 
 I suspect you meant dozens rather than millions...
 
 
 
 Look, both schemes have their pitfalls.  With an end requirement, it's
 
 easy to have code where the indenting doesn't match the actual nesting, and
 
 that causes human confusion.  Without the end requirement, it's not hard
 
 to type code where you forget to dedent.  Those are just two manifestations
 
 of the exact same problem.  Neither scheme is provably superior to the
 
 other.  It's just a choice that a language designer has to make.
 
 
 
 I happen to like Python's choice.  You'll get used to it.
 
 -- 
 
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 Providenza  Boekelheide, Inc.

Was there a VIM discussion group?
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Re: How to add a current string into an already existing list

2013-11-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
 The limitation, of course, is that the data is opaque as far as the
 database goes; you can't do queries against it.  But, if all you need to
 do is store the list and be able to retrieve it, it's a perfectly
 reasonable thing to do, and a lot more efficient than doing a join on a
 secondary table.

Yeah, that can be an effective way to store complex data - especially
if the nesting level isn't fixed. (Normalization can handle a
single-level list, but it's a lot messier for handling lists of lists,
for instance.)

I still think that the OP's task would be best suited to a separate
table (one table of visitors, another of downloads, where the
Downloads table has a foreign key to Visitors), but I'm reminded of
XKCD 1027: the thing standing in the way of his code is that the
person coding it... is him. And of course, this is all without getting
into the non-code aspects of this proposal - as have been mentioned
several times, like EU regulations on retaining this level of data.

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Re: Debugging decorator

2013-11-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
 As print is now a function, you're going to need to construct a
 function call element instead of a special 'print' node. I don't know
 how to do that as I'm not an AST expert, but hopefully you can work it
 out from there?

 If you need it to be cross-version, you could probably use
 sys.stdout.write explicitly (not forgetting to add a newline, which
 print does and write - obviously - doesn't). Or just demand that from
 __future__ import print_function be used, which will make 2.7 like
 3.3.

Oh, I just noticed that the person using 2to3 wasn't the OP. My
apologies, my language was aimed at the decorator's primary developer.
Yasar, are you prepared to take on Python 3 support fully? If it's as
simple as tweaking the Print nodes, that shouldn't be too hard (I
hope).

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Re: Debugging decorator

2013-11-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Jason Friedman jsf80...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wrote this decorator: https://gist.github.com/yasar11732/7163528

 I ran it with Python 2 and thought it was neat.
 Most of my work is Python 3.
 I ran 2to3-3.3 against it and I am getting this error:

 $ ./simple.py
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File ./simple.py, line 3, in module
 @debugger.debugging
   File /home/jason/python/debugger.py, line 41, in debugging
 new_function_body.append(make_print_node(function %s called %
 func.__name__))
   File /home/jason/python/debugger.py, line 6, in make_print_node
 return ast.Print(dest=None, values=[ast.Str(s=s)], nl=True)
 AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Print'

 Comparing http://docs.python.org/2/library/ast.html#module-ast against
 http://docs.python.org/3.3/library/ast.html#module-ast I see that Print
 has indeed been removed.

Ah, that'd be because 'print' is no longer a statement. Check out this
function's disassembly:

def hello_world():
print(Hello, world!)

Python 2.7:
  2   0 LOAD_CONST   1 ('Hello, world!')
  3 PRINT_ITEM
  4 PRINT_NEWLINE
  5 LOAD_CONST   0 (None)
  8 RETURN_VALUE

Python 3.3:
  2   0 LOAD_GLOBAL  0 (print)
  3 LOAD_CONST   1 ('Hello, world!')
  6 CALL_FUNCTION1 (1 positional, 0 keyword pair)
  9 POP_TOP
 10 LOAD_CONST   0 (None)
 13 RETURN_VALUE

As print is now a function, you're going to need to construct a
function call element instead of a special 'print' node. I don't know
how to do that as I'm not an AST expert, but hopefully you can work it
out from there?

If you need it to be cross-version, you could probably use
sys.stdout.write explicitly (not forgetting to add a newline, which
print does and write - obviously - doesn't). Or just demand that from
__future__ import print_function be used, which will make 2.7 like
3.3.

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Re: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.

2013-11-03 Thread Michael Torrie
On 11/03/2013 12:09 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:
 Congratulations Jonas.  My kill file for this list used to have only one
 name, but now has 2.

 You have more patience than I!  Jonas just made mine seven.  :)
 
 Gosh, don't kill the guy.  It's not an obvious thing to hardly anyone
 but computer scientists.  It's an easy mistake to make.

I don't think he's being plonked for not understanding computational
theory.  He's being plonked for resorting to name calling on his second
post!  If he was a smart computer scientist type, then engaging in a
discussion about the theoretical aspects of his algorithm would have
been welcomed by him, because that's what science is all about.  But he
failed that early on.

Thanks to everyone in this part of the thread for turning this
ridiculous farce into a really educational discussion on the theory of
information compression.  Too bad the OP has tuned out a long time ago.

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Re: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.

2013-11-03 Thread Joshua Landau
On 3 November 2013 03:17, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
 On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:31:09 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:

 jonas.thornv...@gmail.com wrote:

Well then i have news for you.

 Well, then, why don't you share it?

 Let me try to get you to understand WHY what you say is impossible.
 [snip reasons]

 But your second reason, better known as the pigeonhole principle,
 demonstrates that for any lossless compression method, there must be data
 sets that actually expand the data. It doesn't matter how cleverly you
 compress the data, you can't fit 20kg of potatoes in a 10kg bag, so to
 speak. Suppose your compression algorithm compresses a single byte into a
 nybble (four bits). There are 256 different input data sets (0x00,
 0x01, ... 0xFF) and only 16 different outputs (0x0, 0x1, ... 0xF). There
 is no way for 256 pigeons to fit in 16 pigeon holes unless you put two or
 more pigeons in at least one hole. Ergo, if the compression algorithm is
 lossless, *some* data must be expanded rather than compressed.

You have to be careful to make this totally rigorous, too.

Note that I *can* make a compression algorithm that takes any
length-n sequence and compresses all but one sequence by at least one
bit, and does not ever expand the data.

00 - 
01 - 0
10 - 1
11 - 00

This, obviously, is just 'cause the length is an extra piece of data,
but sometimes you have to store that anyway ;). So if I have a list of
N length-Y lists containing only 1s or 0s, I can genuinely compress
the whole structure by N log2 Y items.
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Re: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.

2013-11-03 Thread Joshua Landau
On 3 November 2013 15:34, Joshua Landau jos...@landau.ws wrote:
I can genuinely compress
 the whole structure by N log2 Y items.

By which I mean 2N items.
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Automation

2013-11-03 Thread Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira
I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to calculate
Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any suggestion
about how can I do this? From now, thanks.
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Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-11-03 Thread rurpy
On 11/01/2013 09:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
 I did not declare as a 
 fact that he had no experience, as you claim, but posed it as a question 
 and expressed it explicitly as a subjective observation.

This is a key point.  Several of your other denials are 
true only if you are right about this. 

You concluded your reply to Skybuck with:
 
 Wait *until* you *start* programming... [my emphasis]

The implication, that the OP does not have any programming 
experience, will be clear to anyone with with even mediocre 
English speaking ability.  The semantic information conveyed 
to the OP is the same as the statement of fact, you have no 
programming experience and it is perfectly valid to claim 
that you told the OP that he had no programming experience.

I pointed this out in nearly every email but in every one 
of your responses to it, you ignore that concluding sentence
and mention *only* your initial questioning sentence to 
justify your assertion that you posed it as a question.

As an aside, you shouldn't rely on that initial question
sentence so much either -- just because something is framed
as a question does not mean its intent is not to attack:
excuse me for asking, but are you an asshole?
You asked, have you *ever* done *any* programming *at all*? 
[my emphasis] which could be as easily taken as rhetorically 
laying the ground for discrediting his idea as an honest 
neutral question and the former interpretation is strengthened 
by your concluding wait until... statement.

My claims of ad hominem and attack follow from the fact 
that you *did* tell the OP he had no programming experience, 
in direct contradiction to what he had stated, and with no 
evidence to support your claim beyond the OP's opinions on 
loops and goto's.

 Each time I have responded to you, I have given direct quotes and 
 directly addressed the substance of your posts, which is all to do with 
 the supposed tone of my response to the OP. Each time you have continued 
 to misrepresent me, misquote me, and interpret my words assuming bad 
 faith rather than good, in order to justify your idea that my post was an 
 ad hominem attack.
 
 Including this post, where you make the false statement that:
 
 [quote]
 His idea was that loop tests should always or usually be done 
 at the end of the loop.  You discussed *nothing* that supported
 that idea.
 
 Emphasis yours. But in fact I gave the concrete example of Pascal 
 repeat...until loops, which have the test at the end of the loop. So yet 
 again your claims are simply wrong.

That was an unfortunate example for you to chose since it 
directly contradicts your claims.

Read that quote again.  You are a programmer.  You should 
understand logic.  Please explain how acknowledging *one* 
useful end-of-loop construct supports the idea that 
  /quote/ 
  loop tests should *always or usually* be done at the end of the loop 
  /endquote/,
especially when you present it with long string of cases where 
testing at the bottom is *not* desirable.  You did not agree 
with the OPs idea that the test should *always* go at the end 
of the loop and I represented your opinion as such.

This was pointed out to you before yet you continue to claim
I am misrepresenting you.

 This is four posts in a row now that you have wrongly represented me. I 
 can only conclude that you think that by repeating a lie often enough, 
 you'll convince others that it must be true and win.

In my preceding post, I pointed out your practice of repeating
the same discredited accusations in the the hope that repeating 
them enough would somehow make them true... It is amusing to 
see you lift my own words to use against me (although I used 
the word accusation and you choose to use the word lie -- 
a difference in our standards I guess.)

I misrepresented you once, immediately acknowledged and corrected
it when you pointed it out.  You have continued to accuse me of 
misrepresenting you in *every* post you've made, while refusing 
to respond to my request to tell me how you think you *should* be
paraphrased.

Indeed you have followed a consistent policy of falsely accusing 
me of underhanded and disreputable practices, while at the same
time, often in the same sentence, engaging copiously in exactly 
those same practices yourself.  

 I will no longer 
 play this game with you. Goodbye.
 
 *plonk*
 
Bye.
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Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-11-03 Thread rurpy
On 11/02/2013 11:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
 On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:22:38 +, Joshua Landau wrote:
 [...]
 Sure, you in all probability didn't mean it like that but rurpy isn't
 uncalled for in raising the concern. Really I just want to remind you
 that you're both on the same side here.
 
 Thanks for the comments Joshua, but I'm afraid I cannot agree. I gave it 
 a lot of thought and I cannot continue to give Rurpy the presumption of 
 good faith any longer. This saddens me, but that's the way it is.

Steven, presumption of good faith is typical of the 
disingenuous remarks that have permeated your posts 
in this thread.

Early on, I misrepresented you by claiming you thought
Skybuck's proposal was nutty rather than that you 
simply and reasonably disagreed with it [*1].  I also 
used the phrase makes no sense implying it came from 
you rather than from Skybuck as it had [*2].

However in pointing my mistake out [*3], you did so 
with remarks like:

 You're making that quote up
 that you would invent such a bare-faced falsehood
 that it is the *opposite* of what I actually said
 I don't know whether you are deliberately lying
 you're just such a careless reader 

As soon as you pointed out my mistake, I immediately 
acknowledged and corrected it [*4].  You continued 
with the outrage and attacks on my character.

Bad faith in my part indeed.  The nice thing about 
email is that there exists a record that anyone can 
refer to if they want to discern the truth.


[*1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/p1E0d1UGeY8/e6Xs56paZSoJ
[*2] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/p1E0d1UGeY8/yDJJER6EJiIJ
[*3] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/p1E0d1UGeY8/SwMcqPLMwjgJ
[*4] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/p1E0d1UGeY8/7fLfIxBG4UUJ
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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Jim Gibson
In article okcdnxfaqqxze-jpnz2dnuvz_jgdn...@earthlink.com, E.D.G.
edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

My main, complex programs won't be run at Web sites. They will 
 instead continue to be available as downloadable exe programs.  The CGI (or 
 whatever) programming work would involve relatively simple programs. But 
 they would need to be able to generate charts that would be displayed on Web 
 pages. That sounds like it is probably fairly easy to do using Python. A 
 Perl - Gnuplot combination is also supposed to be able to do that. But so 
 far I have not seen any good explanations for how to actually get Gnuplot to 
 run as a callable CGI program. So other programs such as Python are being 
 considered.

One way to generate plot within a CGI program is this:

1. Write a file with gnuplot commands (e.g., 'gnuplot.cmd') that set
the output device to a graphics file of some format (e.g., PNG),
generate a plot, and quit gnuplot.

2. Run gnuplot and point it to the file of commands (e.g., 'gnuplot
gunplot.cmd') . How this is done depends upon the CGI program language
(see below).

3. Generate HTML that uses the generated graphics file as an embedded
image (using the img tag).

I have done this in the past, but not recently. This should work for
Python (os.system(gnuplot gnuplot.cmd) or Perl (system(gnuplot
gnuplot.cmd) with suitable commands to execute external programs.

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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread rusi
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:13:13 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:02:24 -0500, E.D.G. wrote:

 [...]
  Since Perl has a calculation speed
  limit that is probably not easy to get around, before too long another
  language will be selected for initially doing certain things such as
  performing calculations and plotting charts. And the existing Perl code
  might then be gradually translated into that new language.

 The nice things about Python are that it makes a great glue language for 
 putting together components written in low-level languages like C and 
 Fortran, and that there is a rich ecosystem of products for speeding it
 up in various ways. So when you hit the speed limits of pure Python, you
 have lots of options. In no particular order:

 * try using another Python compiler: PyPy is probably the most 
   mature of the stand-alone optimizing compilers, and you can 
   expect to double the speed of typical Python code, but 
   there are others;

 * use numpy and scipy for vectorized mathematical routines;

 * re-write critical code as C or Fortran libraries;

 * use Pyrex (possibly unmaintained now) or Cython to write
   C extensions in a Python-like language;

 * use Psyco or Numba (JIT specialising compilers for Python);

 * use Theano (optimizing computer algebra system compiler);

 * use ctypes to call C functions directly;

 * use other products like Boost, Weave, and more.

Yes python is really state-of-art in this respect:
Every language will have some area where it sucks.
Allowing for a hatch where one could jump out is helpful.
Python allows more such hatches than probably any other language (that I know)

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2012-August/628090.html
is a (non exhaustive) list I had made some time.

On the other hand if you know you are going to be escaping out often,
you may want to consider whether the 'escapee' should be your base
rather than python.

Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it up in python 
and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code.  And see what comparative performance 
you get. 
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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 03/11/2013 18:28, rusi wrote:


Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it up in python 
and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code.  And see what comparative performance 
you get.



Solely on the grounds that you've mentioned julia how about this 
http://blog.leahhanson.us/julia-calling-python-calling-julia.html


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ANN: rom 0.22 - Redis object mapper for Python

2013-11-03 Thread Josiah Carlson
Hey everyone,

As time progresses, so does my Redis object mapper.

The rom package is a Redis object mapper for Python. It sports an
interface similar to Django's ORM, SQLAlchemy + Elixir, or Appengine's
datastore.

The changelog for recent releases can be seen below my signature.

You can find the package at:
https://www.github.com/josiahcarlson/rom
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/rom

And docs can be found at:
http://pythonhosted.org/rom/

Please CC me on any replies if you have any questions or comments.

Thank you,
 - Josiah

#--- 0.22

[fixed] size estimation for intersection ordering when filtering has now
been
fixed, thank you to https://github.com/MickeyKim for the report and the
change (should improve performance).
[fixed] an issue with some types when trying to update attributes has now
been
fixed, thank you to https://github.com/denisvolokh for the report.
[changed] improved performance for simple numeric range queries of the form
Model.get_by(attr=value) or Model.get_by(attr=(min, max)) by roughly a
factor of 60x or better in some cases. Thank you to
https://github.com/MickeyKim for the report on poor performance.
#--- 0.21

[fixed] upload for rom 0.20 was missing new columns.py, now fixed
#--- 0.20

[changed] Added exception when performing .all(), .execute(), or .count() on
query objects that have had no filters or attribute ordering provided.
This addresses issue #12.
[changed] Moved column definitions to their own module, shouldn't affect any
normal uses of rom.
[added] For users of Redis 2.6 and later, there is a beta Lua-enabled
writing
option that allows for multiple unique columns on models. In some cases,
this may improve performance when writing many entities very quickly.
[added] The ability to reload an entity from Redis, optionally discarding
any
modifications to the object itself. Check out the documentation for
Model.refresh(), Session.refresh(), and Session.refresh_all()
[added] Tests for the newly changed/added features.
[changed] Tests no longer use flushdb() - all test models/indexes/etc. are
prefixed with RomTest, and we find/delete such keys before and after any
tests are run. Now anyone can reasonably run the test suite.
#--- 0.19

[fixed] Thanks to a bug report by https://github.com/MickeyKim , was
notified
of a bug when using unique indexes, which is now fixed and has a
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Debugging decorator

2013-11-03 Thread Yaşar Arabacı
I don't think it would be much problem. I can do that when I have spare time.

Yasar.

 Oh, I just noticed that the person using 2to3 wasn't the OP. My
 apologies, my language was aimed at the decorator's primary developer.
 Yasar, are you prepared to take on Python 3 support fully? If it's as
 simple as tweaking the Print nodes, that shouldn't be too hard (I
 hope).

 ChrisA

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Re: zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Peter Cacioppi
Ian said :

 Whereas in Python, an attribute access is just
compiled as an attribute access no matter what the underlying
implementation of that access may end up being at run-time. 

Really? Very nice. Have a good link handy for that? I'm compiling a codex of 
why py is better?.
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Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-11-03 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 03-11-13 06:17, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
 On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:22:38 +, Joshua Landau wrote:
 [...]
 Sure, you in all probability didn't mean it like that but rurpy isn't
 uncalled for in raising the concern. Really I just want to remind you
 that you're both on the same side here.
 
 Thanks for the comments Joshua, but I'm afraid I cannot agree. I gave it 
 a lot of thought and I cannot continue to give Rurpy the presumption of 
 good faith any longer. This saddens me, but that's the way it is.

Why can't you? I think you should give Rurpy more credit. If you want
this to make a welcoming community, then you should take such remarks
seriously. You should realise that you are not in a good position to
evaluate how your words come accross because you rely on the knowledge
of your intentions. Others who don't know your intentions can reasonably
get a very different understanding of what you intended.

 I'm trying hard to give up threads like this, where people debate the 
 subjective tone of an email and ever more pedantic arguments about the 
 precise wording. Even when all participants are arguing in good faith, 
 they risk becoming quagmires which go nowhere in dozens of posts.

So it seems you want this to be a welcoming community, as long as we don't
propose you to change your own behaviour. As soon as it is suggested you may
have to adapt your own behaviour in order to make this a welcoming community,
threads where this sort of things are discusseed in, no longer appeal to
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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread bob gailer

On 11/3/2013 11:19 AM, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira wrote:
I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to 
calculate Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any 
suggestion about how can I do this?
You could start by explaining what those terms mean. They have no direct 
relationship to Python.


Does this have anything to do with statistics? Quantum theory? Telephony?

P = Pluto, V = Venus, S = Saturn?

Help us understand - then we *might* be able to help you.

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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread renato . barbosa . pim . pereira
http://pastebin.com/N9dgaHTx

With this program I can read a csv file with 3 columns, in one of these columns 
I need to read the value more high and multiply by 0.632 and with result, 
search in the same column by a value that aproximate with this result, and then 
return the vector position.
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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 03/11/2013 21:22, bob gailer wrote:

On 11/3/2013 11:19 AM, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira wrote:

I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to
calculate Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any
suggestion about how can I do this?

You could start by explaining what those terms mean. They have no direct
relationship to Python.

Does this have anything to do with statistics? Quantum theory? Telephony?

P = Pluto, V = Venus, S = Saturn?

Help us understand - then we *might* be able to help you.



According to http://www.acronymfinder.com there are only 85 meanings for 
PV, 75 for MV and a mere 290 for SP so simply take your pick :)


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Re: Possibly better loop construct, also labels+goto important and on the fly compiler idea.

2013-11-03 Thread Ben Finney
Antoon Pardon antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be writes:

 Op 03-11-13 06:17, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
  I'm trying hard to give up threads like this, where people debate
  the subjective tone of an email and ever more pedantic arguments
  about the precise wording. Even when all participants are arguing in
  good faith, they risk becoming quagmires which go nowhere in dozens
  of posts.

 So it seems you want this to be a welcoming community, as long as we
 don't propose you to change your own behaviour.

We aim to be a community that always welcomes diversity of people. This
does not entail always welcoming bad behaviour.

Steven is aiming to change his behaviour to make the community more
welcoming of people: he is aiming to cease contributing to threads where
the bad behaviour is an interminable discussion of tone and pedantry.
This is, as I see it, wholly compatible with making the community more
welcoming to people, by reducing the volume of such threads.

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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread Johannes Findeisen
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:19:48 -0200
Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira wrote:

 I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to calculate
 Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any suggestion
 about how can I do this? From now, thanks.

Did you looked at http://www.python-excel.org/ ?

May this can help you solving your problem.  Since you are not
explaining what you want to do I can really not help you more.  And I
don't use Excel too.

And maybe ask the people over at
http://groups.google.com/group/python-excel if they can help you.

Regards,
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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread bob gailer

On 11/3/2013 4:48 PM, renato.barbosa.pim.pere...@gmail.com wrote:

http://pastebin.com/N9dgaHTx

With this program I can read a csv file with 3 columns, in one of these columns 
I need to read the value more high and multiply by 0.632 and with result, 
search in the same column by a value that aproximate with this result, and then 
return the vector position.
Oh ... will you please explain in good English and a lot more detail. I 
can only begin to guess from that what you want. Guessing wastes all our 
time.


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Re: Slicing with negative strides

2013-11-03 Thread Martin Manns
On 29 Oct 2013 05:22:00 GMT
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:

 Does anyone here use slices (or range/xrange) with negative strides
 other than -1?

I have used negative strides for comparing discrete sequences e. g. for
turbulence analysis, and I hope that my code will still run in Python 4.

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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-03, Jim Gibson jimsgib...@gmail.com wrote:
 In article okcdnxfaqqxze-jpnz2dnuvz_jgdn...@earthlink.com, E.D.G.
edgrs...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

My main, complex programs won't be run at Web sites. They will 
 instead continue to be available as downloadable exe programs.  The CGI (or 
 whatever) programming work would involve relatively simple programs. But 
 they would need to be able to generate charts that would be displayed on Web 
 pages. That sounds like it is probably fairly easy to do using Python. A 
 Perl - Gnuplot combination is also supposed to be able to do that. But so 
 far I have not seen any good explanations for how to actually get Gnuplot to 
 run as a callable CGI program. So other programs such as Python are being 
 considered.

 One way to generate plot within a CGI program is this:

 1. Write a file with gnuplot commands (e.g., 'gnuplot.cmd') that set
 the output device to a graphics file of some format (e.g., PNG),
 generate a plot, and quit gnuplot.

Or you can use the pygnuplot module which handles much of that for y0ou.

http://pygnuplot.sourceforge.net/

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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread Denis McMahon
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:19:48 -0200, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira wrote:

 I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to
 calculate Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any
 suggestion about how can I do this? From now, thanks.

Why use Python? Why not simply write excel to do the calculations?

Assuming PV, MV and SP are in columns, you simply need to write your 
equations for Kp, Ki and Kd so that they reference the relevant columns, 
and then past them down the whole spreadsheet.

Seems to me like you're using a sledgehammer to shell a peanut.

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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread MRAB

On 03/11/2013 21:53, Mark Lawrence wrote:

On 03/11/2013 21:22, bob gailer wrote:

On 11/3/2013 11:19 AM, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira wrote:

I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to
calculate Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any
suggestion about how can I do this?

You could start by explaining what those terms mean. They have no direct
relationship to Python.

Does this have anything to do with statistics? Quantum theory? Telephony?

P = Pluto, V = Venus, S = Saturn?

Help us understand - then we *might* be able to help you.



According to http://www.acronymfinder.com there are only 85 meanings for
PV, 75 for MV and a mere 290 for SP so simply take your pick :)


If you put all PV MV SP into Google you get results about Process
Dynamics/Control. Does that help? :-)

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Problem installing matplotlib 1.3.1 with Python 2.7.6 and 3.3.3 (release candidate 1)

2013-11-03 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Hello,

I tried to install matplotlib 1.3.1 on the release candidates of Python 2.7.6 
and 3.3.3.
I am on Mac OS X 10.6.8.
Although the installation gave no problems, there is a problem with Tcl/Tk.

The new Pythons have their own embedded Tcl/Tk, but when installing matplotlib 
it links to the Frameworks version of Tcl and TK, not to the embedded version. 
This causes confusion when importing matplotlib.pyplot:

objc[70648]: Class TKApplication is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/libtk8.5.dylib and 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. 
Which one is undefined.
objc[70648]: Class TKMenu is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/libtk8.5.dylib and 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. 
Which one is undefined.
objc[70648]: Class TKContentView is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/libtk8.5.dylib and 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. 
Which one is undefined.
objc[70648]: Class TKWindow is implemented in both 
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/libtk8.5.dylib and 
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk. One of the two will be used. 
Which one is undefined.

And then later it gives a lot of error messages.

So I think it should be linked to the embedded version. For this the matplotlib 
setupext.py should be adapted to find out if there is an embedded Tcl/Tk in the 
Python installation and set the link parameters accordingly. However, the 
installed Python versions (from the DMG's) do not contain the Tcl/Tk header 
files, only the shared library and the tcl files. So I thing the distributed 
Python should also include the Tcl/Tk header files.
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RE: Parsing multiple lines from text file using regex

2013-11-03 Thread Marc
This is an alternative solution someone else posted on this list for a 
 similar problem I had:

 

#!/usr/bin/python3

from itertools import groupby

def get_lines_from_file(file_name):

with open(file_name) as reader:

for line in reader.readlines():

yield(line.strip())

 

counter = 0

def key_func(x):

if x.strip().startswith(banner) and x.strip().endswith(banner text 
 delimiter):

global counter

counter += 1

return counter

 

for key, group in groupby(get_lines_from_file(my_data), key_func):

print(list(group)[1:-1])

 

 

 

Thanks Jason,

 

banner = re.compile(r'banner\s+(\w+)\s+(.+)(.*?)\2', re.DOTALL).findall(lines)

 

worked nicely to get what I needed:

 

outfile.write(Banner type: %s Banner Delimiter: %s\n % (banner[0][0], 
banner[0][1]))
outfile.write(Banner Text:\n)
outfile.write(banner[0][2])

 

Probably not the prettiest, most concise code, but it gets the job done.

 

Thanks again,

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Re: Problem installing matplotlib 1.3.1 with Python 2.7.6 and 3.3.3 (release candidate 1)

2013-11-03 Thread Ned Deily
In article 21110.62791.44734.656...@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org,
 Piet van Oostrum p...@vanoostrum.org wrote:
 I tried to install matplotlib 1.3.1 on the release candidates of Python 2.7.6 
 and 3.3.3.

[...]

Please open an issue on the Python bug tracker for the Python component of 
this.

http://bugs.python.org

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Python Practice Problems

2013-11-03 Thread yungwong . seu
Hi, who has some problems to practice using Python?
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Re: zero argument member functions versus properties

2013-11-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Peter Cacioppi peter.cacio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ian said :

  Whereas in Python, an attribute access is just
 compiled as an attribute access no matter what the underlying
 implementation of that access may end up being at run-time. 

 Really? Very nice. Have a good link handy for that? I'm compiling a codex of 
 why py is better?.

Sorry, no, but this fact should be apparent as a consequence of
Python's dynamicism.  Since the compiler generally can't predict what
the types of objects will be, the bytecode that it generates can't
depend on those types.
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Re: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.

2013-11-03 Thread Mark Janssen
 Note that I *can* make a compression algorithm that takes any
 length-n sequence and compresses all but one sequence by at least one
 bit, and does not ever expand the data.

 00 - 
 01 - 0
 10 - 1
 11 - 00

 This, obviously, is just 'cause the length is an extra piece of data,
 but sometimes you have to store that anyway ;).

And how many bits will you use to store the length?

 So if I have a list of
 N length-Y lists containing only 1s or 0s, I can genuinely compress
 the whole structure by N log2 Y items.

But you cheated by using a piece of information from outside the
system: length.  A generic compression algorithm doesn't have this
information beforehand.
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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread bob gailer
Let's remember that it is the job of the OP to explain his problem so we 
can offer solutions.


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Re: Basic Python Questions - Oct. 31, 2013

2013-11-03 Thread rusi
On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:28:24 AM UTC+5:30, Mark Lawrence wrote:
 On 03/11/2013 18:28, rusi wrote:
  Which means take something like the pairwise function and code it
  up in python and julia -- its hardly 10 lines of code.  And see
  what comparative performance you get.

 Solely on the grounds that you've mentioned julia how about this 
 http://blog.leahhanson.us/julia-calling-python-calling-julia.html

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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread rusi
On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:49:48 PM UTC+5:30, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira 
wrote:
 I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to 
 calculate Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any 
 suggestion about how can I do this? From now, thanks.

You need something like this?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5425210/shortcut-to-apply-a-formula-to-an-entire-column-in-excel
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Re: Automation

2013-11-03 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Renato Barbosa Pim Pereira 
renato.barbosa.pim.pere...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have one .xls file with the values of PV MV and SP, I wanna to calculate
 Kp Ki Kd with python from this file, can anyone give me any suggestion
 about how can I do this? From now, thanks.


You're being rather vague, so my answer is vague too.  I won't attempt to
deal with the formulas for your conversions - apparently that's your
business.

But for dealing with xls files, I recommend saving to and reading from .csv
files; Python deals great with these.

If you're not concerned about getting (further) locked into a dying,
binary-only platform, you could use xlrd and xlwt though.

It looks like xlrd runs on 2.x and 3.x, while xlwt is still 2.x only -
that's another reason to go with csv, which works well with 2.x and 3.x for
reading and writing.
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Re: Python Practice Problems

2013-11-03 Thread memilanuk

On 11/03/2013 06:06 PM, yungwong@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, who has some problems to practice using Python?
Thx a lot!



http://projecteuler.net/ is always a good bet

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Re: Problem installing matplotlib 1.3.1 with Python 2.7.6 and 3.3.3 (release candidate 1)

2013-11-03 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 04.11.2013 01:59, schrieb Ned Deily:
 In article 21110.62791.44734.656...@cochabamba.vanoostrum.org,
  Piet van Oostrum p...@vanoostrum.org wrote:
 I tried to install matplotlib 1.3.1 on the release candidates of Python 
 2.7.6 
 and 3.3.3.
 
 [...]
 
 Please open an issue on the Python bug tracker for the Python component of 
 this.
 
 http://bugs.python.org

And please mark as release blocker, I think this should go into 3.3.3rc2.

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[issue19439] Build _testembed on Windows

2013-11-03 Thread Zachary Ware

Zachary Ware added the comment:

This patch's changes to test_capi seem to work for Windows and keeps at least 
Gentoo and FreeBSD 10 happy.

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[issue19482] _pickle build warnings on Fedora 19

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

New submission from Nick Coghlan:

Currently getting build warnings from _pickle.c:
==
building '_pickle' extension
gcc -pthread -fPIC -Wno-unused-result -Werror=declaration-after-statement 
-DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -I./Include -I. -IInclude 
-I/usr/local/include -I/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Include 
-I/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k -c /home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c -o 
build/temp.linux-x86_64-3.4/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.o
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c: In function ‘load_counted_long’:
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c:4143:15: warning: ‘pdata’ may be 
used uninitialized in this function [-Wmaybe-uninitialized]
 value = _PyLong_FromByteArray((unsigned char *)pdata, (size_t)size,
   ^
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c: In function ‘load’:
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c:5330:25: warning: ‘s’ may be used 
uninitialized in this function [-Wmaybe-uninitialized]
 i = (unsigned char)s[0];
 ^
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c:5324:11: note: ‘s’ was declared here
 char *s;
   ^
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c:4995:30: warning: ‘s’ may be used 
uninitialized in this function [-Wmaybe-uninitialized]
 idx = Py_CHARMASK(s[0]);
  ^
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c:4986:11: note: ‘s’ was declared here
 char *s;
   ^
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c:4005:20: warning: ‘s’ may be used 
uninitialized in this function [-Wmaybe-uninitialized]
 x |= (size_t) s[3]  24;
^
/home/ncoghlan/devel/py3k/Modules/_pickle.c:4858:11: note: ‘s’ was declared here
 char *s;
   ^
gcc -pthread -shared 
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-L/usr/local/lib -o build/lib.linux-x86_64-3.4/_pickle.cpython-34m.so
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title: _pickle build warnings on Fedora 19
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[issue4331] Add functools.partialmethod

2013-11-03 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 46d3c5539981 by Nick Coghlan in branch 'default':
Issue #4331: Added functools.partialmethod
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/46d3c5539981

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[issue4331] Add functools.partialmethod

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

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[issue19481] IDLE hangs while printing instance of Unicode subclass

2013-11-03 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

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[issue19439] Build _testembed on Windows

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

I checked that test_capi still passed on Fedora as well.

Only tweak I made before committing was to ensure that the read end of the test 
pipe used to determine the default pipe encoding was also closed.

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[issue19439] Build _testembed on Windows

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

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[issue19439] Build _testembed on Windows

2013-11-03 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset c8c6c007ade3 by Nick Coghlan in branch 'default':
Close #19439: execute embedding tests on Windows
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/c8c6c007ade3

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[issue19403] Make contextlib.redirect_stdout reentrant

2013-11-03 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 87d49e2cdd34 by Nick Coghlan in branch 'default':
Close #19403: make contextlib.redirect_stdout reentrant
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/87d49e2cdd34

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[issue16129] No good way to set 'PYTHONIOENCODING' when embedding python.

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

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Bastien, did you get a chance to try embedding Python 3.4a4 in Blender yet? If 
that works for you, we can mark this one as closed.

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[issue19481] IDLE hangs while printing instance of Unicode subclass

2013-11-03 Thread Terry J. Reedy

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Win 7, console 2.7.5+, 32  bit, compiled Aug 24, does not have the problem. 
Idle started with 'import idlelib.idle' does, but only for 'print foo', as Tim 
reported. When I close the hung process with [X], there is no error message in 
the console. Installed 64bit 2.7.5 fails with 'print foo' also. I actually used 
F and f instead of Foo and foo, so it is not name specific. A subclass of str 
works fine.

Current 3.4a4 Idle works fine. The SO OP also reported that there is no problem 
is the class is imported from another file.

We need a test on something other than Windows, preferably both mac and linux.

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[issue17762] platform.linux_distribution() should honor /etc/os-release

2013-11-03 Thread Andrei Dorian Duma

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[issue19481] IDLE hangs while printing instance of Unicode subclass

2013-11-03 Thread Ned Deily

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It's reproducible on OS X as well with a 32-bit Python 2.7.5 and a 64-bit 
Python 2.7.6rc1.  However, the example works OK if I start IDLE with no 
subprocess (-n).

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[issue19481] IDLE hangs while printing instance of Unicode subclass

2013-11-03 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

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This patch fixes symptoms.

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[issue19085] Add tkinter basic options tests

2013-11-03 Thread Ned Deily

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With Cocoa Tk 8.5.15 or Cocoa Tk 8.6.1 on OS X 10.8.5, test_widgets.ButtonTest 
crashes Tk:

test_image (tkinter.test.test_tkinter.test_widgets.ButtonTest) ... 2013-11-03 
01:52:53.498 pytest_10.8[82465:f07] *** Assertion failure in -[NSBitmapImageRep 
initWithCGImage:], 
/SourceCache/AppKit/AppKit-1187.40/AppKit.subproj/NSBitmapImageRep.m:1242
2013-11-03 01:52:53.499 pytest_10.8[82465:f07] An uncaught exception was raised
2013-11-03 01:52:53.499 pytest_10.8[82465:f07] Invalid parameter not 
satisfying: cgImage != NULL
2013-11-03 01:52:53.502 pytest_10.8[82465:f07] (
0   CoreFoundation  0x965eae8b __raiseError + 219
1   libobjc.A.dylib 0x956d152e objc_exception_throw 
+ 230
2   CoreFoundation  0x9654a698 +[NSException 
raise:format:arguments:] + 136
3   Foundation  0x966a5364 -[NSAssertionHandler 
handleFailureInMethod:object:file:lineNumber:description:] + 116
4   AppKit  0x98a34525 -[NSBitmapImageRep 
initWithCGImage:] + 145
5   Tk  0x00725a48 
CreateNSImageWithPixmap + 151
6   Tk  0x00725b1c 
TkMacOSXGetNSImageWithTkImage + 149
7   Tk  0x0071eb2f 
TkpComputeButtonGeometry + 2550
8   Tk  0x0069849d TkButtonWorldChanged 
+ 470
9   Tk  0x00698e99 ConfigureButton + 
1981
10  Tk  0x0069980f ButtonWidgetObjCmd + 
440
11  Tcl 0x00579c2f TclEvalObjvInternal 
+ 770
12  Tcl 0x0057ac1a Tcl_EvalObjv + 72
13  _tkinter.so 0x0055db81 Tkapp_Call + 673
[...]


With Carbon Tk 8.4.20 on OS X 10.8.5, two test_insertborderwidth failures:

==
FAIL: test_insertborderwidth (tkinter.test.test_tkinter.test_widgets.EntryTest)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_widgets.py,
 line 327, in test_insertborderwidth
self.checkPixelsParam(widget, 'insertborderwidth', 0, 1.3, -2)
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py,
 line 158, in checkPixelsParam
conv=conv1, **kwargs)
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py,
 line 48, in checkParam
self.assertEqual2(widget[name], expected, eq=eq)
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py,
 line 32, in assertEqual2
self.assertEqual(actual, expected, msg)
AssertionError: 0 != 1

==
FAIL: test_insertborderwidth 
(tkinter.test.test_tkinter.test_widgets.SpinboxTest)
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_widgets.py,
 line 327, in test_insertborderwidth
self.checkPixelsParam(widget, 'insertborderwidth', 0, 1.3, -2)
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py,
 line 158, in checkPixelsParam
conv=conv1, **kwargs)
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py,
 line 48, in checkParam
self.assertEqual2(widget[name], expected, eq=eq)
  File 
/py/dev/3x/root/fwd32/Library/Frameworks/pytest_10.8.framework/Versions/3.4/lib/python3.4/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py,
 line 32, in assertEqual2
self.assertEqual(actual, expected, msg)
AssertionError: 0 != 1

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Ran 536 tests in 1.149s

FAILED (failures=2, skipped=10)

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[issue16129] No good way to set 'PYTHONIOENCODING' when embedding python.

2013-11-03 Thread Bastien Montagne

Bastien Montagne added the comment:

Wow… Good thing you remind me that. Just tested it here (linux with ASCII 
terminal), works perfectly. Thanks again for all the integration work, Nick!

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[issue19320] Tkinter tests ran with wantobjects is false

2013-11-03 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

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Failed buildbots:

http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Windows%20Server%202003%20%5BSB%5D%202.7
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/AMD64%20Windows%20Server%202008%20%5BSB%5D%202.7

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[issue19085] Add tkinter basic options tests

2013-11-03 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Yes, I know. Here is a list of broken buildbots:

http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20FreeBSD%206.4%203.x
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20FreeBSD%207.2%203.x
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20FreeBSD%206.4%203.3
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.3
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Windows7%202.7
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20XP-4%202.7
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20FreeBSD%206.4%202.7
http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20FreeBSD%207.2%202.7

On Tiger only two tests failed, on other buildbots multiple tests failed and 
symptoms look as differences between 8.5 and 8.4 or 8.5 (Tk version is wrongly 
detected?). I'm working on this.

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[issue18345] logging: file creation options with FileHandler and friends

2013-11-03 Thread Claudiu.Popa

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Hello. Patch attached.

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[issue19483] Pure-Python ElementTree classes no longer available since 3.3

2013-11-03 Thread Brecht Machiels

New submission from Brecht Machiels:

With Python 3.2, I subclassed ElementTree.XMLParser to set 
ExternalEntityRefHandler on the XMLParser's (expat) 'parser' member. I 
understand the 'parser' member is not part of the public API, but this was the 
only way to customize the parser without having to write a parser from scratch.

With 3.3, cElementTree replaces the Python implementation by default. Its 
XMLParser class has no accessible 'parser' member to configure. Unfortunately, 
there does not seem to be a way to use the pure-Python XMLParser, which would 
still allow for customization of the parser. Why is the Python version still in 
the library if it can't be accessed? Only for platforms where the C extension 
is not available?

I see two possible solutions:

1) Have XMLParser (both the C and Python versions) accept an optional parser 
argument, so that a custom parser can be passed in.

2) Make the Python version of ElementTree available again.

My other option is to copy the Python XMLParser version into my project. I 
would like to avoid this, as this would duplicate a lot of perfectly good code.
Perhaps there are other solutions?

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[issue18345] logging: file creation options with FileHandler and friends

2013-11-03 Thread Claudiu.Popa

Claudiu.Popa added the comment:

Added documentation and the chown parameter for the friends of FileHandler. 
Should tests be added for those classes as well or is it enough to test 
FileHandler?

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[issue18345] logging: file creation options with FileHandler and friends

2013-11-03 Thread Claudiu.Popa

Changes by Claudiu.Popa pcmantic...@gmail.com:


Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file32475/logging.patch

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[issue19424] _warnings: patch to avoid conversions from/to UTF-8

2013-11-03 Thread Vajrasky Kok

Vajrasky Kok added the comment:

Py_ssize_t is signed long. size_it is unsigned long. In this case, I suppose we 
should avoid unsigned as much as possible in comparison with signed.

So I think Zachary's patch is reasonable.

What do you think, Victor?

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[issue19464] Remove warnings from Windows buildbot clean script

2013-11-03 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset dbff708e393f by Tim Golden in branch '3.3':
Issue #19464 Suppress compiler warnings during clean. Patch by Zachary Ware.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/dbff708e393f

New changeset 6e592d972b86 by Tim Golden in branch 'default':
Issue #19464 Null merge with 3.3
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/6e592d972b86

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[issue19464] Remove warnings from Windows buildbot clean script

2013-11-03 Thread Tim Golden

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Applied to 3.3  3.4. Thanks for the patch.

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[issue19464] Remove warnings from Windows buildbot clean script

2013-11-03 Thread Tim Golden

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[issue6160] Tkinter.Spinbox: fix bbox method

2013-11-03 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset 91453ba40b30 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '2.7':
Issue #6160: The bbox() method of Tkinter.Spinbox now returns a tuple of
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/91453ba40b30

New changeset 5bdbf2258563 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.3':
Issue #6160: The bbox() method of tkinter.Spinbox now returns a tuple of
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5bdbf2258563

New changeset 75d8b9136fa6 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default':
Issue #6160: The bbox() method of tkinter.Spinbox now returns a tuple of
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/75d8b9136fa6

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[issue16129] No good way to set 'PYTHONIOENCODING' when embedding python.

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Excellent!

Zachary Ware got the embedding tests running and passing on Windows in issue 
19439 (previously they were only executed on *nix systems), so Python 3.4 
should resolve this problem on all platforms.

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[issue6157] Tkinter.Text: changes for bbox, debug, and edit methods.

2013-11-03 Thread Roundup Robot

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New changeset b3178d03871b by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '2.7':
Issue #6157: Fixed Tkinter.Text.debug().  Original patch by Guilherme Polo.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/b3178d03871b

New changeset 3f5e35b766ac by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.3':
Issue #6157: Fixed tkinter.Text.debug().  Original patch by Guilherme Polo.
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/3f5e35b766ac

New changeset c40b573c9f7a by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default':
Issue #6157: Fixed tkinter.Text.debug().  tkinter.Text.bbox() now raises
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/c40b573c9f7a

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[issue12029] Catching virtual subclasses in except clauses

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

A point on the safety/correctness front: I remembered we already run arbitrary 
code at roughly this point in the eval loop, as we have to invoke __iter__ to 
get the exceptions to check when an iterable is used in except clause.

That means allowing the subclass check hooks to run here isn't as radical a 
change as I first thought.

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[issue17400] ipaddress should make it easy to identify rfc6598 addresses

2013-11-03 Thread Nick Coghlan

Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Just updating the issue state to reflect the fact Peter committed this a while 
ago.

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[issue6167] Tkinter.Scrollbar: the activate method needs to return a value, and set should take only two args

2013-11-03 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Changes by Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com:


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[issue6159] Tkinter.PanedWindow: docstring fixes, change in paneconfigure and removed some returns

2013-11-03 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Changes by Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com:


Added file: 
http://bugs.python.org/file32476/PanedWindow_docstring_and_return_fixes_2.patch

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