Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 2 Jul 2018, Michael Torrie wrote (in article): > On 06/30/2018 11:10 AM, Elliott Roper wrote: > > I should have mentioned that none of this went wrong in 3.6. All I'm after > > are packages I can install with pip3. I really don't need to go down all the > > twisty passages installing Fortran > > That's because there were likely binary packages available in the PyPi > repository for matplotlib. Python 3.7 is new enough that there are not > yet binary "wheels" for matplotlib. So you'll either have to compile it > from source (hence the fortran compiler), or wait until binary wheels > show up in pip. > > If you're wanting to use SciPy and matplotlib, I suggest you stick with > Python 3.6. There's little reason to immediately go to Python 3.7. > Anytime you upgrade to the very latest version of Python, it's going to > take some time for binary wheels to be built and placed on PyPi, > installable with pip. Either that, or make sure you do have the > compilers, dependent libraries and tools (pkg-config) installed. This > is easy on Linux. On Mac it's more involved and will likely involve > installing a whole suite of 3rd-party software like MacPorts. Thanks Michael, Back to 3.6 after a short wait for a miracle or when I really need matplotlib. My doctor read the blood pressure riot act to me, so I decided to hit the Python big guns to track my BP after some drastic lifestyle changes. I have just had my second and last single shot of coffee for the day. I used to down 10 shots before lunch! And I'm typing this stone cold sober. Pandas and Numpy are working OK on 3.7 and I think I have fixed the mess I had with some packages needing sudo magic to update, so this whole exercise has not been wasted. -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 7/2/2018 9:50 AM, Michael Torrie wrote: If you're wanting to use SciPy and matplotlib, I suggest you stick with Python 3.6. There's little reason to immediately go to Python 3.7. Anytime you upgrade to the very latest version of Python, it's going to take some time for binary wheels to be built and placed on PyPi, installable with pip. Either that, or make sure you do have the compilers, dependent libraries and tools (pkg-config) installed. This is easy on Linux. On Mac it's more involved and will likely involve installing a whole suite of 3rd-party software like MacPorts. It used to take about 6 months after x.y was released before most major packages were available for x.y. I hope they come faster now. For Windows, a few hundred unofficial whls, for both win32 and amd64, including for matplotlib, are available for (2.7?, 3.4-) 3.7 from https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/, and have been for some number of months. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 06/30/2018 11:10 AM, Elliott Roper wrote: > I should have mentioned that none of this went wrong in 3.6. All I'm after > are packages I can install with pip3. I really don't need to go down all the > twisty passages installing Fortran That's because there were likely binary packages available in the PyPi repository for matplotlib. Python 3.7 is new enough that there are not yet binary "wheels" for matplotlib. So you'll either have to compile it from source (hence the fortran compiler), or wait until binary wheels show up in pip. If you're wanting to use SciPy and matplotlib, I suggest you stick with Python 3.6. There's little reason to immediately go to Python 3.7. Anytime you upgrade to the very latest version of Python, it's going to take some time for binary wheels to be built and placed on PyPi, installable with pip. Either that, or make sure you do have the compilers, dependent libraries and tools (pkg-config) installed. This is easy on Linux. On Mac it's more involved and will likely involve installing a whole suite of 3rd-party software like MacPorts. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 1:09:04 PM UTC-4, Elliott Roper wrote: > I have done something stupid. Don't know what. > > My $PATH looks like this > XXXMac:~ elliott$ echo $PATH > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Pyth > on.framework/Versions/3.6/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3. > 5/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/bin:/Users/elliott/bin > :/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/local/MacGPG2/bin:/Applications/Wireshark.app/Contents/MacOS:/usr/local/git/bin > > pip3 list or pip3.7 list gives me > Package Version > -- --- > pip 10.0.1 > setuptools 39.0.1 > > > > import numpy as np > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'numpy' > So it is not lying to me!!! > > pip list or pip3.6 list > gives the whole caboodle I was expecting with a far smaller version number > for setuptools. > > My understanding is that the whole $PATH is searched in order to resolve an > import, but it isn't. > > It might be relevant that I have had a bit of hassle installing module > updates in the past. I would get an error saying the module version being > replaced could not be deleted with permissions errors which I resolved with a > bit of sudo -H. > > Python 3.6 is still working properly when invoked explicitly > > -- > To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 > 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
Elliott Roper writes: > ... > I should have mentioned that none of this went wrong in 3.6. All I'm after > are packages I can install with pip3. I really don't need to go down all the > twisty passages installing Fortran "pip[*]" is a tool to install Python packages. But some Python packages are not pure Python and require additional (beyond Python) infrastructure in your target system: e.g. additional (operating) system packages, compilers, utilities, ... Ideally, the installation instructions for a package would describe which infrastructure is necessary. Of course, you would need to consult them to find out whether a package is pure Python or what additional components are necessary in the target. In my view, the packages you have reported problems with do quite a good job: they provide precise and helpfull error/warning messages during the installation process. With their help, you can resolve the problems (or decide that you do not need the package). Side note: a missing "pkg-config" or Fortran compiler is very likely not a "3.6" versus "3.7" issue. It has to do with the target system (and its available infrastructure), maybe the versions of the installed packages but not the Python versions. > I DID have pkg-config installed in ~/Library . site-packages. Jim told us that "pkg-config" is not a Python package (but an (operating) system package). Therefore, its expected place is not below ".../site-packages". You must install it where system packages are looked for -- or use system specific configuration (likely, the envvar "PATH" in your case) to look where you have installed it. >I > uninstalled it and re-installed with an Admin account, where it appeared in > /Library ... site-packages > but that made no difference, pip3 install -- user matplotlib still > complaining about pkg-config "pkg-config" (once successfully installed) will provide an operating system command "pkg-config". You can check whether it is available and working by invoking "pkg-config" from the command line. On my system (Ubuntu) is is located at "/usr/bin/pkg-config". On *nix like systems the envvar "PATH" controls where operating system level commands are looked for. Badly configuring "PATH" can lead to unexpectedly not finding some commands. > ... > I do have write access. It looks like a Mac specific per user directory tree > for temporary stuff and installation records. Apparently, you are on a "Mac". Its OS 10 started as a *nix like system - but with many peculiarities. Not sure, what of the above is applying. What remains true: your "pkg-config" problem is not a Python problem but an operating system level problem -- either with the installation of the "pkg-config" package or with the configuration where commands are looked for. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 30 Jun 2018, dieter wrote (in article): > Elliott Roper writes: > > ... > > install scipy wrote an error message longer than War and Peace that finished > > with:- > > > > error: library dfftpack has Fortran sources but no Fortran compiler found > > An error message of the type I like: precise: > Install a "Fortran compiler" and try again. > > > ... > > and matplotlib produced a beautifully formatted report that started with: > > __ > > Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: > > IMPORTANT WARNING: > > This is a warning only (even though it is marked as important). > > > pkg-config is not installed. > > matplotlib may not be able to find some of its dependencies > > And the warning message is precise again: install "pkg-config" > to get rid of it. > > I do not know "pkg-config". The name seems to indicate an > operating system package; but, it might also be a Python extension > package (less likely). > I would start with the "matplotlib" > installation instructions to look for information about it. Thanks Jim and dieter. I should have mentioned that none of this went wrong in 3.6. All I'm after are packages I can install with pip3. I really don't need to go down all the twisty passages installing Fortran I DID have pkg-config installed in ~/Library . site-packages. I uninstalled it and re-installed with an Admin account, where it appeared in /Library ... site-packages but that made no difference, pip3 install -- user matplotlib still complaining about pkg-config not being installed and not being able to find png I was wrong about Both look like not having write access to /private/var/folders/v2/gj68t3zx3bd6764zxc332ctcgr/T/pip-install- np76k73m/ I do have write access. It looks like a Mac specific per user directory tree for temporary stuff and installation records. I really am out of my depth here. I have found a post with a very similar problem on Stack Exchange https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51082934/matplotlib-2-2-2-installation- error-on-high-sierra sadly without an answer -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 06/29/18 21:48, dieter wrote: I do not know "pkg-config". The name seems to indicate an operating system package; but, it might also be a Python extension package (less likely). I would start with the "matplotlib" installation instructions to look for information about it. https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/pkg-config/ "pkg-config is a helper tool used when compiling applications and libraries. It helps you insert the correct compiler options on the command line so an application can use|gcc -o test test.c `pkg-config --libs --cflags glib-2.0`|for instance, rather than hard-coding values on where to find glib (or other libraries). It is language-agnostic, so it can be used for defining the location of documentation tools, for instance." -Jim -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
Elliott Roper writes: > ... > install scipy wrote an error message longer than War and Peace that finished > with:- > > error: library dfftpack has Fortran sources but no Fortran compiler found An error message of the type I like: precise: Install a "Fortran compiler" and try again. > ... > and matplotlib produced a beautifully formatted report that started with: > __ > Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: > IMPORTANT WARNING: This is a warning only (even though it is marked as important). > pkg-config is not installed. > matplotlib may not be able to find some of its dependencies And the warning message is precise again: install "pkg-config" to get rid of it. I do not know "pkg-config". The name seems to indicate an operating system package; but, it might also be a Python extension package (less likely). I would start with the "matplotlib" installation instructions to look for information about it. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 29 Jun 2018, Terry Reedy wrote
(in article):
> On 6/28/2018 6:45 PM, Elliott Roper wrote:
> > On 28 Jun 2018, Terry Reedy wrote
>
> > > There is a pip command for making an editable file of installed
> > > packages. Run that in 3.6, perhaps after updating everything.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is another pip command for using that file to install everything
> > > listed. Run that in 3.7.
> >
> > I can't see the pip commands you mention for writing a file from 3.6
> and
> > reading it back for 3.7
> > Is it pip freeze -r followed by pip install -r? If so, what is
> > meant by 'the given requirements file' in the freeze options?
>
> 'pip freeze' sends the requirements list to stdout in alphabetical
> order. You redirect or copy-paste to a file. I have not done this, but
> apparently -r uses file as a template for selecting and ordering
> the requirements. I presume pip will ignore any versions in the
> template and list the actual installed versions.
Thanks Terry. The freeze worked but the install -r looked like it was doing
the right thing but ended up doing nothing after complaining about matplotlib
being unable to install one of its dependencies IIRC
I have deleted every trace of python following every element on sys.path for
every version I had except for Apple's 2.6 and then reinstalled 3.7 from
python.org's downloads. Then using the output from my 3.6 freeze, I installed
each package on that list one by one with the --user option.
That worked well except for two of the biggies I wanted to play with -- scipy
and matplotlib.
I did get numpy and pandas to install that way, which is a large part I need
for what I am playing with.
install scipy wrote an error message longer than War and Peace that finished
with:-
error: library dfftpack has Fortran sources but no Fortran compiler found
Command "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/bin/python3.7 -u
-c "import setuptools,
tokenize;__file__='/private/var/folders/v2/gj68t3zx3bd6764zxc332ctcgr/T/pi
p-install-np76k73m/scipy/setup.py';f=getattr(tokenize, 'open',
open)(__file__);code=f.read().replace('\r\n',
'\n');f.close();exec(compile(code, __file__, 'exec'))" install --record
/private/var/folders/v2/gj68t3zx3bd6764zxc332ctcgr/T/pip-record-
0norcg4s/install-record.txt --single-version-externally-managed --compile
--user --prefix=" failed with error code 1 in
/private/var/folders/v2/gj68t3zx3bd6764zxc332ctcgr/T/pip-install-
np76k73m/scipy/
__
_
and matplotlib produced a beautifully formatted report that started with:
__
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
IMPORTANT WARNING:
pkg-config is not installed.
matplotlib may not be able to find some of its dependencies
Edit setup.cfg to change the build options
___
and finished with
* The following required packages can not be built:
* png
Command "python setup.py egg_info" failed with error code 1 in
/private/var/folders/v2/gj68t3zx3bd6764zxc332ctcgr/T/pip-install-
3fnvrt2b/matplotlib/
___
Both look like not having write access to
/private/var/folders/v2/gj68t3zx3bd6764zxc332ctcgr/T/pip-install-
np76k73m/
since I was installing with the --user switch, it looks like a bug in pip. It
should have guessed I was a non-priviliged user. But then that "Edit
setup.cfg to change the build options" is intriguing, especially since 'pip3
config list' returns nothing.
Still. I have got a fair way there. Thanks so much for your help. It would be
great if there were a Mac user with as much patience for numpties.
To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7
637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248
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Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 6/28/2018 6:45 PM, Elliott Roper wrote: On 28 Jun 2018, Terry Reedy wrote There is a pip command for making an editable file of installed packages. Run that in 3.6, perhaps after updating everything. There is another pip command for using that file to install everything listed. Run that in 3.7. I can't see the pip commands you mention for writing a file from 3.6 and reading it back for 3.7 Is it pip freeze -r followed by pip install -r? If so, what is meant by 'the given requirements file' in the freeze options? 'pip freeze' sends the requirements list to stdout in alphabetical order. You redirect or copy-paste to a file. I have not done this, but apparently -r uses file as a template for selecting and ordering the requirements. I presume pip will ignore any versions in the template and list the actual installed versions. I believe you got the install right. When I look inside site-packages in ~/Library (see below) I see many packages that pip lists, but by no means all. F'instance numpy and scipy. They can be found in /Library's site-packages however. My understanding is that the whole $PATH is searched in order to resolve an import, but it isn't. The OS searches the OS path, which you listed above. Python searches its sys.path, which it creates when started. Run >>> import sys; sys.path to see the contents. Unless macOS is more different than I think, you should see a 3.7 site-packages when running 3.7. Aha! That is most helpful Python 3.7.0 (v3.7.0:1bf9cc5093, Jun 26 2018, 23:26:24) [Clang 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. (python prompt)>>> import sys .>>>sys.path ['', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python37.zip', # no such file sys.path included directories that might be present. In this case, a zipped version of the stdlib. '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7', # 207 items, none matching pip intstallable modules '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7/lib- dynload',# 69 items, none matching pip installable modules '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7/site- packages'] # just pip and setuptools are in here .>>> ^D site-packages is the default for 3rd parth packages. It can have .pth files that extend the directory to effectively include other directories. EiPro:~ elliott$ python3.6 Python 3.6.5 (v3.6.5:f59c0932b4, Mar 28 2018, 05:52:31) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. .>>> import sys (python prompt)>>> sys.path ['', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python36.zip', # no such file '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6', # 207 items, none matching pip intstallable modules '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6/lib- dynload',# 65 items, none matching pip installable modules '/Users/elliott/Library/Python/3.6/lib/python/site-packages', # 103 items some matching items that appear in pip3.6 list '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6/site- packages'] # numpy, scipy, pandas etc. are here. These might have been modules I needed sudo -H to update .>>> What I did not make clear that my 'elliott' user is not an Administrator. If I log into my admin account (which I hardly ever do), it thinks my Python3 is 3.7, list there also shows the hugely abbreviated collection of modules namely pip and setuptools. pip list shows a list of modules so old as to be unrecognisable. I expect the system install to be 2.7, python3 link to 3.7 either because that is the most recent 3x installed or the most recent version. It looks like I have a tangled mess. Is there a way of getting rid of all the pythons except Apple's museum piece and starting again? It is a hobby for me. I have no need for backward compatibility. I think if I could install 3.7 site wide from my non-admin account, I would be happiest. The standard install pretty much worked up to 3.6 pip Would it be safe to delete everything on python's sys.path and re-install from the download .pkg I suspect you can get rid of 3.6, 3.5, 3.4, but I am not a Mac user. I hope someone who is answers. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 28 Jun 2018, Terry Reedy wrote (in article): > On 6/28/2018 1:08 PM, Elliott Roper wrote: > > I have done something stupid. Don't know what. > > It appears that you ran 3.7 expecting that modules installed for 3.6 > would magically be available for 3.7. Yes indeed. It worked for 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6 > > > There is a pip command for making an editable file of installed > packages. Run that in 3.6, perhaps after updating everything. > > > There is another pip command for using that file to install everything > listed. Run that in 3.7. I can't see the pip commands you mention for writing a file from 3.6 and reading it back for 3.7 Is it pip freeze -r followed by pip install -r? If so, what is meant by 'the given requirements file' in the freeze options? > > > > My $PATH looks like this > > XXXMac:~ elliott$ echo $PATH > > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Py > > th > > on.framework/Versions/3.6/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/ > > 3. > > 5/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/bin:/Users/elliott/b > > in > > > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/local > > > /MacGPG2/bin:/Applications/Wireshark.app/Contents/MacOS:/usr/local/git/bin > > > > pip3 list or pip3.7 list gives me > > Package Version > > -- --- > > pip 10.0.1 > > setuptools 39.0.1 > > This is the content of the 3.7 site-packages. > > > > > > import numpy as np > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "", line 1, in > > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'numpy' > > So it is not lying to me!!! > > > > pip list or pip3.6 list > > gives the whole caboodle I was expecting with a far smaller version number > > for setuptools. > > The content of the 3.6 site-packages directory. When I look inside site-packages in ~/Library (see below) I see many packages that pip lists, but by no means all. F'instance numpy and scipy. They can be found in /Library's site-packages however. > > > > My understanding is that the whole $PATH is searched in order to resolve an > > import, but it isn't. > > The OS searches the OS path, which you listed above. > Python searches its sys.path, which it creates when started. > Run >>> import sys; sys.path to see the contents. > Unless macOS is more different than I think, you should see a 3.7 > site-packages when running 3.7. Aha! That is most helpful Python 3.7.0 (v3.7.0:1bf9cc5093, Jun 26 2018, 23:26:24) [Clang 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. (python prompt)>>> import sys .>>>sys.path ['', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python37.zip', # no such file '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7', # 207 items, none matching pip intstallable modules '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7/lib- dynload',# 69 items, none matching pip installable modules '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/lib/python3.7/site- packages'] # just pip and setuptools are in here .>>> ^D EiPro:~ elliott$ python3.6 Python 3.6.5 (v3.6.5:f59c0932b4, Mar 28 2018, 05:52:31) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 6.0 (clang-600.0.57)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. .>>> import sys (python prompt)>>> sys.path ['', '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python36.zip', # no such file '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6', # 207 items, none matching pip intstallable modules '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6/lib- dynload',# 65 items, none matching pip installable modules '/Users/elliott/Library/Python/3.6/lib/python/site-packages', # 103 items some matching items that appear in pip3.6 list '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.6/lib/python3.6/site- packages'] # numpy, scipy, pandas etc. are here. These might have been modules I needed sudo -H to update .>>> What I did not make clear that my 'elliott' user is not an Administrator. If I log into my admin account (which I hardly ever do), it thinks my Python3 is 3.7, list there also shows the hugely abbreviated collection of modules namely pip and setuptools. pip list shows a list of modules so old as to be unrecognisable. It looks like I have a tangled mess. Is there a way of getting rid of all the pythons except Apple's museum piece and starting again? It is a hobby for me. I have no need for backward compatibility. I think if I could install 3.7 site wide from my non-admin account, I would be happiest. The standard install pretty much worked up to 3.6 pip Would it be safe to delete everything on python's sys.path and re-install from the download .pkg > > > > It might be relevant that I have had a bit of hassle installing module > > updates in the past. I would get an error saying the module version being > > replaced could not be deleted with permissions errors which I
Re: I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
On 6/28/2018 1:08 PM, Elliott Roper wrote: I have done something stupid. Don't know what. It appears that you ran 3.7 expecting that modules installed for 3.6 would magically be available for 3.7. There is a pip command for making an editable file of installed packages. Run that in 3.6, perhaps after updating everything. There is another pip command for using that file to install everything listed. Run that in 3.7. My $PATH looks like this XXXMac:~ elliott$ echo $PATH /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Pyth on.framework/Versions/3.6/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3. 5/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/bin:/Users/elliott/bin :/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/local/MacGPG2/bin:/Applications/Wireshark.app/Contents/MacOS:/usr/local/git/bin pip3 list or pip3.7 list gives me Package Version -- --- pip 10.0.1 setuptools 39.0.1 This is the content of the 3.7 site-packages. import numpy as np Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'numpy' So it is not lying to me!!! pip list or pip3.6 list gives the whole caboodle I was expecting with a far smaller version number for setuptools. The content of the 3.6 site-packages directory. My understanding is that the whole $PATH is searched in order to resolve an import, but it isn't. The OS searches the OS path, which you listed above. Python searches its sys.path, which it creates when started. Run >>> import sys; sys.path to see the contents. Unless macOS is more different than I think, you should see a 3.7 site-packages when running 3.7. It might be relevant that I have had a bit of hassle installing module updates in the past. I would get an error saying the module version being replaced could not be deleted with permissions errors which I resolved with a bit of sudo -H. Python 3.6 is still working properly when invoked explicitly -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
I lost nearly all my modules installing 3.7
I have done something stupid. Don't know what. My $PATH looks like this XXXMac:~ elliott$ echo $PATH /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.7/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Pyth on.framework/Versions/3.6/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3. 5/bin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.4/bin:/Users/elliott/bin :/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/TeX/texbin:/usr/local/MacGPG2/bin:/Applications/Wireshark.app/Contents/MacOS:/usr/local/git/bin pip3 list or pip3.7 list gives me Package Version -- --- pip 10.0.1 setuptools 39.0.1 > > > import numpy as np Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'numpy' So it is not lying to me!!! pip list or pip3.6 list gives the whole caboodle I was expecting with a far smaller version number for setuptools. My understanding is that the whole $PATH is searched in order to resolve an import, but it isn't. It might be relevant that I have had a bit of hassle installing module updates in the past. I would get an error saying the module version being replaced could not be deleted with permissions errors which I resolved with a bit of sudo -H. Python 3.6 is still working properly when invoked explicitly -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
