Re: Python slogan, was Re: Grouping code by indentation - feature or ******?
Kent Johnson wrote: >> Wikiquote is nice. I missed it because I googled for Mark Twain and parts of >> the Churchill quote -- for that I'm now convinced it is as wikiquote gives >> a slightly longer excerpt and the date and location of the speech (November >> 11, 1947, in the House of Commons). > > Interesting that in the quote on wikiquote, Churchill indicates that the > sentiment is not original > with him: > "Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government > except all those other > forms that have been tried from time to time." > > Note the "it has been said"... Though this may be a tricky style issue. I don't know whether some parts of the country would have cited only the first part, discrediting Mr Churchill. In Germany, a sentence like this would be readily welcomed by the "BILD" newspaper... Reinhold -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python slogan, was Re: Grouping code by indentation - feature or ******?
Kent Johnson wrote: > Interesting that in the quote on wikiquote, Churchill indicates that the > sentiment is not original with him: > "Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government > except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." > > Note the "it has been said"... Back to square one then. When will I ever learn to read... Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python slogan, was Re: Grouping code by indentation - feature or ******?
Peter Otten wrote: Skip Montanaro wrote: >> Or, paraphrasing Mark Twain, "Python is the worst possible >> programming language, except for all the others." Google thinks it's Winston Churchill as well. I did come across a quote wiki: http://www.wikiquote.org/ Wikiquote is nice. I missed it because I googled for Mark Twain and parts of the Churchill quote -- for that I'm now convinced it is as wikiquote gives a slightly longer excerpt and the date and location of the speech (November 11, 1947, in the House of Commons). Interesting that in the quote on wikiquote, Churchill indicates that the sentiment is not original with him: "Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." Note the "it has been said"... Kent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python slogan, was Re: Grouping code by indentation - feature or ******?
Skip Montanaro wrote: > >> Or, paraphrasing Mark Twain, "Python is the worst possible > >> programming language, except for all the others." > Google thinks it's Winston Churchill as well. I did come across a quote > wiki: > > http://www.wikiquote.org/ > > None of the quotes attributes to Mark Twain looked like the democracy > quote, though he had a few other good ones related to goverment and > politics that might be worth a passing glance: > > http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Twain Thanks Kent, thanks Skip. Wikiquote is nice. I missed it because I googled for Mark Twain and parts of the Churchill quote -- for that I'm now convinced it is as wikiquote gives a slightly longer excerpt and the date and location of the speech (November 11, 1947, in the House of Commons). The closest Mark Twain quote I found is "We are stopping at Shepherd's Hotel, which is the worst on earth except the one I stopped at once in a small town in the United States." http://www.mtwain.com/Innocents_Abroad/58.html Not very close, though, and the ones on wikiquote are better, too. Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python slogan, was Re: Grouping code by indentation - feature or ******?
>> Or, paraphrasing Mark Twain, "Python is the worst possible >> programming language, except for all the others." Peter> I've been trying to establish that a while ago, but would Peter> attribute it to Winston Churchill -- so I'm a little confused Peter> now. Google thinks it's Winston Churchill as well. I did come across a quote wiki: http://www.wikiquote.org/ None of the quotes attributes to Mark Twain looked like the democracy quote, though he had a few other good ones related to goverment and politics that might be worth a passing glance: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Twain Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python slogan, was Re: Grouping code by indentation - feature or ******?
Peter Otten wrote: Tim Roberts wrote: Or, paraphrasing Mark Twain, "Python is the worst possible programming language, except for all the others." I've been trying to establish that a while ago, but would attribute it to Winston Churchill -- so I'm a little confused now. Can you provide the text where it's taken from? A little Googling shows it is widely attributed to Churchill but I didn't find an original source. The full quote seems to be "democracy is the worst possible form of government except - all the others that have been tried". The most authoritative citation I can find is from this page at The Churchill Centre: http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=591 Interestingly, this quote is not on their page of famous quotes: http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=388 Kent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python slogan, was Re: Grouping code by indentation - feature or ******?
Tim Roberts wrote: > Rocco Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Antoon Pardon wrote: >>> I have problems with all languages >>> currently available, so I use those which rub me wrong the least. >>> ... [I]t doesn't weight heavy enough >>> to go and use an other language, although I keeping looking at >>> the other languages. >> >>I think the operational definition of a "zealot" is someone who thinks >>what they have is absolutely perfect, and refuses to examine the >>alternatives. >> >>Not a very inspiring slogan though: >>"Python - the least of 1,000+ evils." > > Or, paraphrasing Mark Twain, "Python is the worst possible programming > language, except for all the others." I've been trying to establish that a while ago, but would attribute it to Winston Churchill -- so I'm a little confused now. Can you provide the text where it's taken from? Peter PS: Perhaps we can settle on (with apologies to Groucho Marx): I wouldn't want to program in a language I can actually understand. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
