Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
On 16 Apr, 2009, at 20:58, Russell Owen wrote: I installed the Mac binary on my Intel 10.5.6 system and it works, except it still uses Apple's system Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 instead of my ActiveState 8.4.19 (which is in /Library/Frameworks where one would expect). That's very string. I had ActiveState 8.4 installed (whatever was current about a month ago). Just out of curiosity: which 3rd party Tcl/Tk did you have installed when you made the installer? Perhaps if it was 8.5 that would explain it. If so I may try updating my Tcl/Tk -- I've been wanting some of the bug fixes in 8.5 anyway. Tcl 8.5 won't happen in 2.6, and might not happen in 2.7 either. Tkinter needs to work with the system version of Tcl, which is some version of 8.4, Tkinter will not work when the major release of Tcl is different than during the compile. That makes it rather hard to support both 8.4 and 8.5 in the same installer. Ronald -- Russell On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:35 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 15 Apr, 2009, at 22:47, Russell E. Owen wrote: Thank you for 2.6.2. I see the Mac binary installer isn't out yet (at least it is not listed on the downloads page). Any chance that it will be compatible with 3rd party Tcl/Tk? The Mac installer is late because I missed the pre-announcement of the 2.6.2 tag. I sent the installer to Barry earlier today. The installer was build using a 3th-party installation of Tcl/Tk. Ronald smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org (BW) wrote: BW On behalf of the Python community, I'm happy to announce the availability BW of Python 2.6.2. This is the latest production-ready version in the BW Python 2.6 series. Dozens of issues have been fixed since Python 2.6.1 BW was released back in December. Please see the NEWS file for all the gory BW details. BW http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/NEWS.txt BW For more information on Python 2.6 in general, please see BW http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html BW Source tarballs, Windows installers, and (soon) Mac OS X disk images can BW be downloaded from the Python 2.6.2 page: BW http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/ Maybe a link to the MacOSX image can also be added to http://www.python.org/download -- Piet van Oostrum p...@cs.uu.nl URL: http://pietvanoostrum.com [PGP 8DAE142BE17999C4] Private email: p...@vanoostrum.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
On Apr 17, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Piet van Oostrum wrote: Maybe a link to the MacOSX image can also be added to http://www.python.org/download Done. -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
On Apr 16, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 16 Apr, 2009, at 20:58, Russell Owen wrote: I installed the Mac binary on my Intel 10.5.6 system and it works, except it still uses Apple's system Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 instead of my ActiveState 8.4.19 (which is in /Library/Frameworks where one would expect). That's very string. I had ActiveState 8.4 installed (whatever was current about a month ago). I agree. (For what it's worth, you probably have Tcl/Tk 8.4.19 -- a version I've found to be very robust. 8.4.19 was released awhile ago and is probably the last version of 8.4 we will see, since all development is happening on 8.5 now). Could you try a simple experiment (assuming you still have ActiveState Tcl/Tk installed): run python from the command line and enter these commands: import Tkinter root = Tkinter.Tk() Then go to the application that comes up and select About Tcl/Tk... (in the Python menu) and see what version it reports. When I run with the Mac binary of 2.6.2 it reports 8.4.7 (Apple's built-in python). When I build python 2.6.2 from source it reports 8.4.19 (my ActiveState Tclc/Tk). Just out of curiosity: which 3rd party Tcl/Tk did you have installed when you made the installer? Perhaps if it was 8.5 that would explain it. If so I may try updating my Tcl/Tk -- I've been wanting some of the bug fixes in 8.5 anyway. Tcl 8.5 won't happen in 2.6, and might not happen in 2.7 either. Tkinter needs to work with the system version of Tcl, which is some version of 8.4, Tkinter will not work when the major release of Tcl is different than during the compile. That makes it rather hard to support both 8.4 and 8.5 in the same installer. Perfect. I agree. -- Russell -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
In article nad-304e10.20284516042...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article dd982bd4-02ab-4395-afee-cd3d0eeb7...@u.washington.edu, Russell Owen ro...@u.washington.edu wrote: I installed the Mac binary on my Intel 10.5.6 system and it works, except it still uses Apple's system Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 instead of my ActiveState 8.4.19 (which is in /Library/Frameworks where one would expect). I just built python from source and that version does use ActiveState 8.4.19. I wish I knew what's going on. Not being able to use the binary distros is a bit of a pain. You're right, the tkinter included with the 2.6.2 installer is not linked properly: Is: $ cd /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6 $ cd lib/python2.6/lib-dynload $ otool -L _tkinter.so _tkinter.so: /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [...] should be: _tkinter.so: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19) /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [...] Just for the record, when I built Python 2.6 from source I got the latter output (the desired result). If someone can point me to instructions I'm willing to try to make a binary installer and make it available (though I'd much prefer to debug the standard installer). -- Russell -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
In article rowen-e2f734.15471117042...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@u.washington.edu wrote: In article nad-304e10.20284516042...@news.gmane.org, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: In article dd982bd4-02ab-4395-afee-cd3d0eeb7...@u.washington.edu, Russell Owen ro...@u.washington.edu wrote: I installed the Mac binary on my Intel 10.5.6 system and it works, except it still uses Apple's system Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 instead of my ActiveState 8.4.19 (which is in /Library/Frameworks where one would expect). I just built python from source and that version does use ActiveState 8.4.19. I wish I knew what's going on. Not being able to use the binary distros is a bit of a pain. You're right, the tkinter included with the 2.6.2 installer is not linked properly: Is: $ cd /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6 $ cd lib/python2.6/lib-dynload $ otool -L _tkinter.so _tkinter.so: /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [...] should be: _tkinter.so: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19) /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [...] Just for the record, when I built Python 2.6 from source I got the latter output (the desired result). If someone can point me to instructions I'm willing to try to make a binary installer and make it available (though I'd much prefer to debug the standard installer). I suspect Ronald will be fixing this in the standard installer soon. -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
On 15 Apr, 2009, at 22:47, Russell E. Owen wrote: Thank you for 2.6.2. I see the Mac binary installer isn't out yet (at least it is not listed on the downloads page). Any chance that it will be compatible with 3rd party Tcl/Tk? The Mac installer is late because I missed the pre-announcement of the 2.6.2 tag. I sent the installer to Barry earlier today. The installer was build using a 3th-party installation of Tcl/Tk. Ronald smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
I installed the Mac binary on my Intel 10.5.6 system and it works, except it still uses Apple's system Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 instead of my ActiveState 8.4.19 (which is in /Library/Frameworks where one would expect). I just built python from source and that version does use ActiveState 8.4.19. I wish I knew what's going on. Not being able to use the binary distros is a bit of a pain. Just out of curiosity: which 3rd party Tcl/Tk did you have installed when you made the installer? Perhaps if it was 8.5 that would explain it. If so I may try updating my Tcl/Tk -- I've been wanting some of the bug fixes in 8.5 anyway. -- Russell On Apr 16, 2009, at 5:35 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 15 Apr, 2009, at 22:47, Russell E. Owen wrote: Thank you for 2.6.2. I see the Mac binary installer isn't out yet (at least it is not listed on the downloads page). Any chance that it will be compatible with 3rd party Tcl/Tk? The Mac installer is late because I missed the pre-announcement of the 2.6.2 tag. I sent the installer to Barry earlier today. The installer was build using a 3th-party installation of Tcl/Tk. Ronald -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
In article dd982bd4-02ab-4395-afee-cd3d0eeb7...@u.washington.edu, Russell Owen ro...@u.washington.edu wrote: I installed the Mac binary on my Intel 10.5.6 system and it works, except it still uses Apple's system Tcl/Tk 8.4.7 instead of my ActiveState 8.4.19 (which is in /Library/Frameworks where one would expect). I just built python from source and that version does use ActiveState 8.4.19. I wish I knew what's going on. Not being able to use the binary distros is a bit of a pain. You're right, the tkinter included with the 2.6.2 installer is not linked properly: Is: $ cd /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6 $ cd lib/python2.6/lib-dynload $ otool -L _tkinter.so _tkinter.so: /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.0) /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.0) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [...] should be: _tkinter.so: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19) /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [...] -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RELEASED Python 2.6.2
On behalf of the Python community, I'm happy to announce the availability of Python 2.6.2. This is the latest production-ready version in the Python 2.6 series. Dozens of issues have been fixed since Python 2.6.1 was released back in December. Please see the NEWS file for all the gory details. http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/NEWS.txt For more information on Python 2.6 in general, please see http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html Source tarballs, Windows installers, and (soon) Mac OS X disk images can be downloaded from the Python 2.6.2 page: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/ Please report bugs for any Python version in the Python tracker: http://bugs.python.org Enjoy, -Barry Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python-dev team) PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
RELEASED Python 2.6.2
On behalf of the Python community, I'm happy to announce the availability of Python 2.6.2. This is the latest production-ready version in the Python 2.6 series. Dozens of issues have been fixed since Python 2.6.1 was released back in December. Please see the NEWS file for all the gory details. http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/NEWS.txt For more information on Python 2.6 in general, please see http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html Source tarballs, Windows installers, and (soon) Mac OS X disk images can be downloaded from the Python 2.6.2 page: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/ Please report bugs for any Python version in the Python tracker: http://bugs.python.org Enjoy, -Barry Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python-dev team) PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: RELEASED Python 2.6.2
Thank you for 2.6.2. I see the Mac binary installer isn't out yet (at least it is not listed on the downloads page). Any chance that it will be compatible with 3rd party Tcl/Tk? Most recent releases have not been; the only way I know to make a compatible build is to build the installer on a machine that already has a 3rd party Tcl/Tk installed; the resulting binary is then compatible with both 3rd party versions of Tcl/Tk and also with Apple's ancient built in version. -- Russell -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: RELEASED Python 2.6.2
In article rowen-edc16c.13470815042...@news.gmane.org, Russell E. Owen ro...@u.washington.edu wrote: I see the Mac binary installer isn't out yet (at least it is not listed on the downloads page). Any chance that it will be compatible with 3rd party Tcl/Tk? Most recent releases have not been; the only way I know to make a compatible build is to build the installer on a machine that already has a 3rd party Tcl/Tk installed; the resulting binary is then compatible with both 3rd party versions of Tcl/Tk and also with Apple's ancient built in version. Thanks for the reminder. FWIW, that issue has recently been documented and there is a patch for the build script to ensure that the 3rd party Tcl/Tk is present during the installer build. I don't think it made it into the 2.6.2 source tree, though. http://bugs.python.org/issue5651 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 2.6.2
On Apr 15, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: Thank you for 2.6.2. I see the Mac binary installer isn't out yet (at least it is not listed on the downloads page). Any chance that it will be compatible with 3rd party Tcl/Tk? Most recent releases have not been; the only way I know to make a compatible build is to build the installer on a machine that already has a 3rd party Tcl/Tk installed; the resulting binary is then compatible with both 3rd party versions of Tcl/Tk and also with Apple's ancient built in version. I can't answer this, but Ronald is building the OS X image for 2.6.2, AFAIK. I think it will be out soon, and maybe he can answer your Tcl/ Tk question. -Barry PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: RELEASED Python 2.6.2
Barry Warsaw wrote: On behalf of the Python community, I'm happy to announce the availability of Python 2.6.2. This is the latest production-ready version in the Python 2.6 series. Dozens of issues have been fixed since Python 2.6.1 was released back in December. Please see the NEWS file for all the gory details. Congratulations. A great success. --Scott David Daniels scott.dani...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RELEASED Python 2.6.2 candidate 1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm happy to announce the release of Python 2.6.2 candidate 1. This release contains dozens of bug fixes since Python 2.6.1. Please see the NEWS file for a detailed list of changes. Barring unforeseen problems, Python 2.6.2 final will be released within a few days. http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/NEWS.txt For more information on Python 2.6 please see http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html Source tarballs and Windows installers for this release candidate can be downloaded from the Python 2.6.2 page: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/ Bugs can be reported in the Python bug tracker: http://bugs.python.org Enjoy, Barry Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python-dev team) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSdwZ0HEjvBPtnXfVAQJTsAP+Krt1F6qGjuk9a7q8HwF2oAWr/peIAfDf 7HGjOpieoyyAKO1ZNqWvxZ1Ftx+I0YHjfk5OKz/1FN9H3eteFU/L5EEbJD1iTSmK LAOycWWtWJp+OPatqveHZbGr4ap4XON05yMrzlewnnIH0iGnYjMAgxKkwVKA7MwN BiXDeBPba1A= =HdKG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
RELEASED Python 2.6.2 candidate 1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm happy to announce the release of Python 2.6.2 candidate 1. This release contains dozens of bug fixes since Python 2.6.1. Please see the NEWS file for a detailed list of changes. Barring unforeseen problems, Python 2.6.2 final will be released within a few days. http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/NEWS.txt For more information on Python 2.6 please see http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html Source tarballs and Windows installers for this release candidate can be downloaded from the Python 2.6.2 page: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.2/ Bugs can be reported in the Python bug tracker: http://bugs.python.org Enjoy, Barry Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org Python 2.6/3.0 Release Manager (on behalf of the entire python-dev team) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBSdwZ0HEjvBPtnXfVAQJTsAP+Krt1F6qGjuk9a7q8HwF2oAWr/peIAfDf 7HGjOpieoyyAKO1ZNqWvxZ1Ftx+I0YHjfk5OKz/1FN9H3eteFU/L5EEbJD1iTSmK LAOycWWtWJp+OPatqveHZbGr4ap4XON05yMrzlewnnIH0iGnYjMAgxKkwVKA7MwN BiXDeBPba1A= =HdKG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
