Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-09 Thread TP
On Friday, 23 November 2001 04:13:40 UTC+5:30, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ
 wrote:

  Hello,
  I'm looking for an editor for Python.I' m interested it works on
 Windows.Can
  anybody help me?

It's an IDE rather than just an editor but how about PyCharm 3 Community
Edition? [1]

[1] https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/
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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-09 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
- Original Message -
 
 On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
 jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
 
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  too late you have sent this to a public forum
  
  No pb with that, the python list is the intended recipient :)
  
  I tried to negotiate this with my IT guys, but it looks like it's
  now mandatory, something related to being in the USA stock market.
 Yeah, when in doubt blame the Americans.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings, have a look at http://www.sarbanes-oxley-101.com/

I don't blame anyone, would I be blaming the law, that wouldn't imply the 
americans anyway.

cheers,

JM 

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represents a huge change to federal securities law. It came as a result of the 
corporate financial scandals involving Enron, WorldCom and Global Crossing. 
Effective in 2006, all publicly-traded companies are required to implement and 
report internal accounting controls to the SEC for compliance.


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-09 Thread David Robinow
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
 - Original Message -

 On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
 jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
  I tried to negotiate this with my IT guys, but it looks like it's
  now mandatory, something related to being in the USA stock market.
 Yeah, when in doubt blame the Americans.

 Sorry if I hurt your feelings, have a look at 
 http://www.sarbanes-oxley-101.com/
You didn't. I was just having fun.  However, I couldn't find anything
at that site which referred to email disclaimers.
It seems to me that this sort of thing has gone out of style. It was
more common ten years ago.  However, I won't waste any more time
arguing the point.

 I don't blame anyone, would I be blaming the law, that wouldn't imply the 
 americans anyway.

 cheers,
 JM
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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread ayushpokharna
On Friday, 23 November 2001 04:13:40 UTC+5:30, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ  wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm looking for an editor for Python.I' m interested it works on Windows.Can
 anybody help me?
 
 Thank you
 
 Manuel

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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
- Original Message -
 On Friday, 23 November 2001 04:13:40 UTC+5:30, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ
  wrote:
  Hello,
  I'm looking for an editor for Python.I' m interested it works on
  Windows.Can
  anybody help me?
  
  Thank you
  
  Manuel

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=python+editor+windows

Otherwise, must of the newcomers will be pleased with
http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

Ideally, try to use an editor that will allow you to edit any type of code, 
python or anything else.

JM

PS : you could also have searched this archive, this subject has been already 
discussed... a lot. 


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Douglas Duhaime
I've been pleased with Komodo, and certainly prefer it over Notepad++.

Komodo:
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide?gclid=COHE4eLj7rsCFQISMwodOUQAiw


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant 
jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:

 - Original Message -
  On Friday, 23 November 2001 04:13:40 UTC+5:30, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ
   wrote:
   Hello,
   I'm looking for an editor for Python.I' m interested it works on
   Windows.Can
   anybody help me?
  
   Thank you
  
   Manuel

 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=python+editor+windows

 Otherwise, must of the newcomers will be pleased with
 http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

 Ideally, try to use an editor that will allow you to edit any type of
 code, python or anything else.

 JM

 PS : you could also have searched this archive, this subject has been
 already discussed... a lot.


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant

- Original Message - 

 I've been pleased with Komodo, and certainly prefer it over
 Notepad++.

 Komodo:
 http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide?gclid=COHE4eLj7rsCFQISMwodOUQAiw

Komodo is an IDE and costs 385$. I certainly expect it to better than notepad++.

JM


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Alister
On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 16:13:09 +0100, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:

 - Original Message -
 
 I've been pleased with Komodo, and certainly prefer it over Notepad++.
 
 Komodo:
 http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide?gclid=COHE4eLj7rsCFQISMwodOUQAiw
 
 Komodo is an IDE and costs 385$. I certainly expect it to better than
 notepad++.
 
 JM
 
I like Geany it is almost  IDE  considerably cheaper (about $385 
cheaper if your price is correct :-) )

 
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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant 
jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:

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   also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please
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   medium. Thank you.
 
  too late you have sent this to a public forum

 No pb with that, the python list is the intended recipient :)

 I tried to negotiate this with my IT guys, but it looks like it's now
 mandatory, something related to being in the USA stock market.
 I have no way to remove it, it's added by the email server. I apologise
 for the noise.


Two thoughts:  maybe create a gmail account, and
What is wrong with this world that some over paid lawyer requires a
useless, silly statement to justify his employment.  The money that person
is being paid should be given to someone else.


 JM


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant
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  The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and
  may
  also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please
  notify
  the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any
  other
  person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in
  any
  medium. Thank you.
 
 too late you have sent this to a public forum

No pb with that, the python list is the intended recipient :)

I tried to negotiate this with my IT guys, but it looks like it's now 
mandatory, something related to being in the USA stock market.
I have no way to remove it, it's added by the email server. I apologise for the 
noise.

JM


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Jean-Michel Pichavant
jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
 I tried to negotiate this with my IT guys, but it looks like it's now 
 mandatory, something related to being in the USA stock market.
 I have no way to remove it, it's added by the email server. I apologise for 
 the noise.

But you have a way to hide it for people whose clients do support
that.  Simply, instead of signing your letters with “JM” yourself and
having your employer add this spam, simply have your mail client add
the sequence below as your signature.  Some clients offer adding the
separator automatically and you only have to type JM in the signature
field.

The “magical” sequence is: -- \nJM

(that is 0x2D 2D 20 0A 4A 4D, with a trailing space)


 JM


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Joel Goldstick joel.goldst...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is wrong with this world that some over paid lawyer requires a useless,
 silly statement to justify his employment.  The money that person is being
 paid should be given to someone else.

Good luck. Guess who would be suing you for wrongful dismissal? :)

I'm not sure those sorts of footers are enforceable or of any value,
but they keep on popping up. Gmail at my end will happily fold it down
as repeated/quoted text, so it doesn't bother me more than once per
thread (usually), so hey, if it keeps the lawyers from hassling
someone, I'm not fussed.

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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread David Robinow

On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com 
wrote:

 -- IMPORTANT NOTICE:
 
 
 too late you have sent this to a public forum
 
 No pb with that, the python list is the intended recipient :)
 
 I tried to negotiate this with my IT guys, but it looks like it's now 
 mandatory, something related to being in the USA stock market.
Yeah, when in doubt blame the Americans.
 I have no way to remove it, it's added by the email server. I apologise for 
 the noise.
Maybe you should try Google Groups.

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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 08/01/2014 19:50, David Robinow wrote:


On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com 
wrote:


-- IMPORTANT NOTICE:



too late you have sent this to a public forum


No pb with that, the python list is the intended recipient :)

I tried to negotiate this with my IT guys, but it looks like it's now 
mandatory, something related to being in the USA stock market.

Yeah, when in doubt blame the Americans.

I have no way to remove it, it's added by the email server. I apologise for the 
noise.

Maybe you should try Google Groups.



Why not, it works fine provided people pay a little attention, and 
follow the instructions that others have kindly placed on the Python 
wiki to help resolve problems, repeated again for anyone who needs them 
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy

On 1/8/2014 6:27 AM, ayushpokha...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, 23 November 2001 04:13:40 UTC+5:30, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ  wrote:


I do not seem to have the original


I'm looking for an editor for Python. I' m interested it works on Windows.


For a Python editor, as opposed to a general code editor, the Idle 
editor works pretty well and has some advantages with respect to 
integration with the interpreter.


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Emile van Sebille

On 1/8/2014 12:47 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:


For a Python editor, as opposed to a general code editor, the Idle
editor works pretty well and has some advantages with respect to
integration with the interpreter.


While true, ISTM in the past there have been 'leakage' related issues 
with idle -- are those no longer a concern?


Emile


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Mark Lawrence

On 08/01/2014 20:47, Terry Reedy wrote:

On 1/8/2014 6:27 AM, ayushpokha...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, 23 November 2001 04:13:40 UTC+5:30, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ
wrote:


I do not seem to have the original



You mean to say you don't keep 12 year old emails? :)

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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Ricardo Aráoz

I use Spyder both in Windows as in Linux.
Pretty good programing environment, lots of features, simple enough, 
works on both platforms and it's free.



El 08/01/14 08:27, ayushpokha...@gmail.com escribió:

On Friday, 23 November 2001 04:13:40 UTC+5:30, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ  wrote:

Hello,
I'm looking for an editor for Python.I' m interested it works on Windows.Can
anybody help me?

Thank you

Manuel


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread 88888 Dihedral
On Friday, November 23, 2001 6:43:40 AM UTC+8, MANUEL FERNANDEZ PEREZ wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm looking for an editor for Python.I' m interested it works on Windows.Can
 anybody help me?
 
 Thank you
 
 Manuel
OK, try the notepad++ at 
notepad-plus-plus.org/ or use IDLE 
with the pycrust. 

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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy

On 1/8/2014 3:56 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:

On 1/8/2014 12:47 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:


For a Python editor, as opposed to a general code editor, the Idle
editor works pretty well and has some advantages with respect to
integration with the interpreter.


While true, ISTM in the past there have been 'leakage' related issues
with idle -- are those no longer a concern?


I have looked through most of the Idle issues on the tracker but do not 
remember anything about 'leakage' (of memory?)


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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Emile van Sebille

On 1/8/2014 3:46 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:

On 1/8/2014 3:56 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:

On 1/8/2014 12:47 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:


For a Python editor, as opposed to a general code editor, the Idle
editor works pretty well and has some advantages with respect to
integration with the interpreter.


While true, ISTM in the past there have been 'leakage' related issues
with idle -- are those no longer a concern?


I have looked through most of the Idle issues on the tracker but do not
remember anything about 'leakage' (of memory?)


Of names I think.

As I recall it had something to do with both idle and the application 
running in the same namespace?  So the leakage was from within idle 
affecting the running of the script under development?


Admittedly, it was a while back.  But I never went back to idle 
afterwards either...


Emile



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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote:
 As I recall it had something to do with both idle and the application
 running in the same namespace?  So the leakage was from within idle
 affecting the running of the script under development?

 Admittedly, it was a while back.  But I never went back to idle afterwards
 either...

Personally, I don't edit source files in IDLE - I use SciTE or another
editor for that. IDLE is, to me, an interactive Python session and
nothing more. I find it better than command-line Python because it
recalls entire blocks of code; it's not a superior editor to one that
can do every language I want all in one window.

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Re: Editor for Python

2014-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy

On 1/8/2014 7:19 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:

On 1/8/2014 3:46 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:

On 1/8/2014 3:56 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote:

On 1/8/2014 12:47 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:


For a Python editor, as opposed to a general code editor, the Idle
editor works pretty well and has some advantages with respect to
integration with the interpreter.


While true, ISTM in the past there have been 'leakage' related issues
with idle -- are those no longer a concern?


Almost not, see below.


I have looked through most of the Idle issues on the tracker but do not
remember anything about 'leakage' (of memory?)


Of names I think.

As I recall it had something to do with both idle and the application
running in the same namespace?  So the leakage was from within idle
affecting the running of the script under development?


By default, Idle runs user code in a separate process from the Idle 
process itself, and has for several years. There is a command line 
option to revert to the old way (user code in the same process). Some of 
us would like to remove that option (and simplify the remaining code a 
bit). This option is kept mainly because connecting to the separate 
process via sockets sometimes fails on some systems.


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Re: Editor for Python

2010-02-05 Thread Gerald Britton
2010/2/5 Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com:

   Hi All,

 I know that this question was put up on this list a thousand times. I know
 that most of the editors are listed here:
 http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors

 I already tried most of them. But still, I need something that is not listed
 there. Requirements:

 starts and works fast
 has code folding, displays identation guides
 auto completion
 class browser
 source code browser (e.g. a list of definitions, when you click it jumps to
 the definition
 integration with pychecker or pylint
 UTF-8 files
 free, or not-so-expensive
 works on linux and windows

 The one I'm using now is Geany. It does everything, except class browser and
 pychecker/pylint. Now maybe, I can install (or write??) a geany extension
 that would allow me to use pychecker. But I could not find information on
 that. There where others I tried (PyPE, DrPython, KomodoEdit, Editra etc.)
 but all of them failed for some reason. Can you please suggest another
 editor that I could try? Or send me a link that tells how to write or
 install pychecked plugin for Geany.

 Thanks,

    Laszlo


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within a package (Is that what you mean)?  You'd probably have to
write a plugin to support pychecker or pylint though I believe that
its not too difficult.  Who knows?  Perhaps someone already has such a
plugin that you can use.

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Re: Editor for Python

2010-02-05 Thread Alan Harris-Reid


Hi Laszlo,

I use Wing IDE (not free, $35 for personal edition) and PyScripter 
(free).  I find both good, for different reasons.


Regards,
Alan



Laszlo Nagy wrote:


  Hi All,

I know that this question was put up on this list a thousand times. I 
know that most of the editors are listed here: 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors


I already tried most of them. But still, I need something that is not 
listed there. Requirements:


* starts and works fast
* has code folding, displays identation guides
* auto completion
* class browser
* source code browser (e.g. a list of definitions, when you click
  it jumps to the definition
* integration with pychecker or pylint
* UTF-8 files
* free, or not-so-expensive
* works on linux and windows

The one I'm using now is Geany. It does everything, except class 
browser and pychecker/pylint. Now maybe, I can install (or write??) a 
geany extension that would allow me to use pychecker. But I could not 
find information on that. There where others I tried (PyPE, DrPython, 
KomodoEdit, Editra etc.) but all of them failed for some reason. Can 
you please suggest another editor that I could try? Or send me a link 
that tells how to write or install pychecked plugin for Geany.


Thanks,

   Laszlo



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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-24 Thread Lee Phillips
The indentation-based folding in vim makes it great
for python; other folding editors might be almost as
good.
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-24 Thread Robert Boyd
On 2/19/06, Mladen Adamovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.


I know you said in the thread that you had problems with jEdit for
Python, and didn't care for Emacs or Vi(m).

Still -- in my experience, I've used jEdit for Python for about the
past 5 years, and never had a problem with jEdit's indentation. I did
not set up as a full-fledged IDE with code completion or module
browsing -- I never got the jpydebug plugin working to my
satisfaction. I think jEdit is an excellent editor.

I've tried pretty much all of the well-known editor/IDE options.
Komodo is nice to work with, but expensive (I code for pay, so can't
use the cheap license) compared to even WingIDE. Also, I don't like
the Komodo module browser. The latest pydev for Eclipse is greatly
improved. But with Eclipse you get all the overhead of a
projects-requiring IDE, which may feel like overkill if you're writing
small scripts. Plus, for the Python stuff to work, you have to import
files into a project that's defined as a Python project (not true for
the other full-blown IDEs). For fast and small (opposite of Eclipse),
Scite is nice, but auto-completion can only use words that exist in
the opened file, not the available methods in your namespace.

Despite all the good choices, I have gone back to my old standby, Vim,
alongside IPython.  If you dislike the vim way of editing, there's a
user-friendlier version of Vim called Cream. With vim plus IPython,
you get syntax highlighting, auto-indent, code completion, code
browser (tags), interactive help, ability to run your code and drop
into a debugger, file explorer, etc (and I haven't even gotten all the
vim Python tools installed yet). Add winpdg if you like a more GUI
debugger, and you've got the makings of a great development
environment.

If you really _have_ to have a full-blown IDE with a modern-looking
GUI, with dockable windows and all that, try the Komodo and WingIDE
trials. If you aren't coding for a living, you might want to pay the
price for a non-professional license. Try Eclipse with pydev, too. But
for your intended purpose, you might decide you can use a
lighter-weight setup.
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-24 Thread Ben Wilson
You know, I have that for Perl, but seem never to have set up folding
for Python. I must remedy this tonight.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-02-19, Mladen Adamovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing
 Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

jed

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-23 Thread Philippe Martin
Mladen Adamovic wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

Eclipse + pydev

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-22 Thread John M. Gabriele
Mladen Adamovic wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.
 

NEdit

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-21 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Well... pydev has it: http://pydev.sf.net and pydev extensions goes much 
further: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev

Cheers,

Fabio

jean-michel bain-cornu wrote:

Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor.  Although it focuses
on wxPython, it has a good editor.


Yes, some possibilities are pretty good, like for instance the 
findAll/findInFiles keeping the results in a new tab (I never saw this 
elsewhere). Another useful is having the debugger launching the 
application in a separate process, an excellent way to avoid bugs 
pollution coming into the IDE.
rgds
jm
  



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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-21 Thread Sbaush
My favourite is Kate, available on KDE but working great also on Gnome!2006/2/21, Fabio Zadrozny [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well... pydev has it: http://pydev.sf.net and pydev extensions goes muchfurther: http://www.fabioz.com/pydevCheers,Fabio
jean-michel bain-cornu wrote:Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor.Although it focuseson wxPython, it has a good editor.Yes, some possibilities are pretty good, like for instance the
findAll/findInFiles keeping the results in a new tab (I never saw thiselsewhere). Another useful is having the debugger launching theapplication in a separate process, an excellent way to avoid bugs
pollution coming into the IDE.rgdsjm--Fabio Zadrozny--Software DeveloperESSS - Engineering Simulation and Scientific Software
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-21 Thread Joel Hedlund
I really think that IDLE is one of the best around in Python source editing.
 
 For me, I find that IDLE is about the worse for editing Python sources.

Worse? Now that's harsh. I'm with billie on this one. I usually spend a day 
or so every 3 months trying to find a free python editor that surpasses IDLE. 
I've been doing it for 3 years now and for me, IDLE is still king of the hill. 

What I like about IDLE is that it is configurable, intuitive and rock stable, 
and I've come to realize that combination is rare indeed in the world of free 
editors. 

Another pro for IDLE is that you probably already have it installed, since it 
comes included in the standard python releases. If you decide to give IDLE a go 
you might also want to check out the latest subversion version of IDLE, since 
it has a bunch of really useful syntax helper updates.

Cheers!
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-21 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
pida is a great ide as well:
http://pida.vm.bytemark.co.uk/projects/pida

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Petr Jakes
Endless stories about IDEs (try to browse through this discussion group
first). Of course it depends about users personal needs and taste. So
install them and try them (I know, it's really time consuming). I thing
there is not the other way to decide which one is the best for YOU.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread billie
I really think that IDLE is one of the best around in Python source editing. 
The only great lacks are tabs. Does somebody know if is there some IDLE 
modified version including tabbed browsing, out there? 


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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread bruno at modulix
Rene Pijlman wrote:
 F. Petitjean:
 
Rene Pijlman:

vi

I beg to disagree :-) Use ed
Ed is the standard text editor.
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html
 
 
 That was 1991. This is 2006.

Yes, but that rant is still a pure jewel of geek madness.



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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread bruno at modulix
Rene Pijlman wrote:
 Sriram Krishnan:
 
Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors.
 
 
 This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed.

Well, this prove that this page *is* to be taken seriously !-)


(René, don't bother replying : this is a troll ;-)



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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Mystilleef
I'm writing a simple yet powerful text editor for GNOME that is great
for Python development called Scribes. It features

Snippets (ala Textmate/Eclipse)
Automatic word completion
Automatic indentation
Automatic bracket completion
Automatic saving
Bookmarks
Syntax Highlight
etc..

Flash Movie: http://scribes.sf.net/snippets.htm

Gif Screencast: http://www.minds.may.ie/~dez/images/blog/scribes.html

Hompage: http://scribes.sf.net/

It's faster, lighter, simpler and as powerful than the alternatives,
and most important it never gets in your way and you would never need
to decipher cryptic manuals to do anything moderately productive,
unlike some other editors. It's free software too, give it a try. As a
bonus, it's written in Python.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Tim Parkin
Mladen Adamovic wrote:

Hi!

I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

  

I've been using wing for quite some time and it's an excellent dedicated
editor for python. If you want flexible debugging in a gui environment
it's hard to beat.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Doug Bromley
I did a review of Python IDE's at my blog. If you're interested you can take a look:http://www.straw-dogs.co.uk/blog/python-ide-reviewI have a couple of links to other reviews on there too. Worth a look if you're trying to find a good IDE.
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread pikatxu
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:52:54 +0100, Mladen Adamovic wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

eclipse+pydev ?
I've never tried it though

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread zelova
It was said that Boa is good, but I prefer SPE.
WingIDE is good but commercial, I tried it but didn't buy.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Franz Steinhaeusler
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:52:54 +0100, Mladen Adamovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi!

I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

Maybe you try out DrPython.

(Written in Python and wxPython, Autocompletion, Calltips,
easily extensible with plugins and scripts, source browser, ...)
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-02-19, Rene Pijlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I beg to disagree :-) Use ed
Ed is the standard text editor.
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html

 That was 1991. This is 2006.

That's a joke, son. A flag waver. You're built too low. The
fast ones go over your head. Ya got a hole in your glove. I
keep pitchin' 'em and you keep missin' 'em. Ya gotta keep
your eye on the ball. Eye. Ball. I almost had a gag, son.
Joke, that is. 

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
You could try Eclipse with Pydev: http://pydev.sf.net
or its commercial counterpart: Pydev Extensions: 
http://www.fabioz.com/pydev

-- runs on linux / mac / windows ...

Cheers,

Fabio

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Ben Wilson
He said IDE. That means vim

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Mladen Adamovic
Mladen Adamovic wrote:
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

I've got a lot of replies on this message.
In jEdit auto ident don't work OK.

Answers like vi, emacs and gedit I won't take seriously.
For gods sake, gedit don't even have syntax highlighting (at least on 
Centos 4.2).

I would like syntax highlighting, auto ident and if possible auto 
completition and embedded help.

I downloaded a couple of sugestions and I will try it. Thank you for 
your answers :) .

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mladen Adamovic wrote:
 Mladen Adamovic wrote:
  I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python
  programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

 I've got a lot of replies on this message.
 In jEdit auto ident don't work OK.

 Answers like vi, emacs and gedit I won't take seriously.
 For gods sake, gedit don't even have syntax highlighting (at least on
 Centos 4.2).

Actually gedit does have syntax highlighting and works quite well.
If you put down emacs so casually you obviously have no experience with
one of the most powerful text editors available. I don't use because I
like the X windows editors more.

Basically any editor that can insert spaces for tabs and maintain
indentation level works well.

For Unices:
I like cooledit, besides syntax highlighting for a variety of
languages, it uses python as its internal scripting language and has a
powerful indent/undent feature.

xcoral is good, another highly configurable editor.

gedit

idle

ee (also know as aee) works pretty decently for maintaining tabbing

vi (*not* vim, which is a travesty that doesn't even work right) if
nothing else is available

For M$:
Idle
PFE
vim

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Benji York
Mladen Adamovic wrote:
 Answers like vi, emacs and gedit I won't take seriously.

I don't know anything about gedit, but why not take Emacs and Vim (not 
vi) seriously?

 I would like syntax highlighting, auto ident and if possible auto 
 completition and embedded help.

Both certainly give you those and *so* much more.
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread jean-michel bain-cornu
 Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor.  Although it focuses
 on wxPython, it has a good editor.
Yes, some possibilities are pretty good, like for instance the 
findAll/findInFiles keeping the results in a new tab (I never saw this 
elsewhere). Another useful is having the debugger launching the 
application in a separate process, an excellent way to avoid bugs 
pollution coming into the IDE.
rgds
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Mladen Adamovic napisał(a):

 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

Komodo isn't perfect either. Nothing is perfect, except God and human
laziness.

I like Komodo, it plays well with my laziness.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread SPE - Stani's Python Editor
 (I never saw this elsewhere).

FYI SPE has these two features as well...

Stani
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Mladen Adamovic
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually gedit does have syntax highlighting and works quite well.

Uops, it seems that I should give a second chance to it, I haven't 
noticed its settings.

 If you put down emacs so casually you obviously have no experience with
 one of the most powerful text editors available. I don't use because I
 like the X windows editors more.

I know that emacs is powerfull editor but I'm not used to it.

 Basically any editor that can insert spaces for tabs and maintain
 indentation level works well.

jEdit don't maintain indentation level correct (it was my first try) 
then I googled a bit and was confused so I posted a message here :).


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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Mladen Adamovic
Benji York wrote:
 I don't know anything about gedit, but why not take Emacs and Vim (not 
 vi) seriously?

I'm not used to their approach.

I usually program in Java but recently I reliazed if I'm making Linux 
shell scripts, Python seems to be good choice to me.

So, that Pydev Eclipse plug-in (or some other) seems interested.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Echo
On 2/20/06, billie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I really think that IDLE is one of the best around in Python source editing.
For me, I find that IDLE is about the worse for editing Python sources.

I used to use Notepad++ before I started using Boa. Sometimes I still
use Notepad++ because I can easly right click on a file to open it up
in Notepad++.

I use the editor that comes with Dabo. It has most features that any
good python editor has. It does CURRENTLY lack many options, however
that will change in the future. All of Dabo is being worked on and
updated a lot, sometimes as much as 10-15 things changed, added and/or
fixed in a day. Although, you will want the svn version for the most
resent changes.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Chris Smith
 Sriram == Sriram Krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Mladen Adamovic wrote:
 Hi!  I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for
 writing Python programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't
 perfect.
 

Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. I personally use Emacs

Yeah, emacs: yeah.  Particularly with the Emacs Code Browser add-on.
R,
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Rene Pijlman
Mladen Adamovic:
I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
programs.

vi

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Jonathan Daugherty
# I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python
# programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

It depends on what you need; what don't you like about JEdit?  What do
you think a good editor or IDE should provide?

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Sriram Krishnan
Mladen Adamovic wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.
 

Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors. I personally use Emacs

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Armin Steinhoff
Mladen Adamovic wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.


Nothing is perfect ... but try SciTE and Eric 
http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread F. Petitjean
Le Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:33:59 +0100, Rene Pijlman a écrit :
 Mladen Adamovic:
I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
programs.

 vi

I beg to disagree :-) Use ed
Ed is the standard text editor.
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html


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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread SPE - Stani's Python Editor
SPE: http://pythonide.stani.be

I use it on Ubuntu. For a quick start, view:
http://showmedo.com/videoListPage?listKey=PythonDevelopmentWithSPE

Stani

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Rene Pijlman
F. Petitjean:
Rene Pijlman:
 vi

I beg to disagree :-) Use ed
Ed is the standard text editor.
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html

That was 1991. This is 2006.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Rene Pijlman
Sriram Krishnan:
Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors.

This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Colin J. Williams
Rene Pijlman wrote:
 Mladen Adamovic:
 
I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
programs.
 
 
 vi
 
Scite is a good editor.  It is available for both Windows and Linux.
Boa-Constructor is an IDE rather than an editor.  Although it focuses
on wxPython, it has a good editor.

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Benji York
Rene Pijlman wrote:
 Sriram Krishnan:
 
Check out http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors.
 
 
 This page can't be taken seriously. vi is not listed.

I hope your wink key is broken; I wouldn't wish old-school vi on my 
worst enemy.  Fortunately that page lists the wonderful Vim instead, so 
seriousness has been maintained.

To the OP: a serious editor is a basic necessity of coding, so pick 
Emacs, Vim, or something equivalent.  Just make sure it's customizable 
and you enjoy customizing it because you'll want to.
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Mladen Adamovic enlightened us with:
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python 
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.

I use gvim (if I have X) and vim (if I don't). The only negative thing
about it, is its learning curve ;-)

Sybren
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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread Old Duck
Mladen Adamovic wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I wonder which editor or IDE you can recommend me for writing Python
 programs. I tried with jEdit but it isn't perfect.


My personal favorite is Kate (comes with KDE).

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Re: editor for Python on Linux

2006-02-19 Thread funktion
gedit

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