Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
Gelonida N gelonida at gmail.com writes: I wondered whether some of you have a little more insight into what's going on with PIL. AFAIK the latest PIL stuff lives here: hg.effbot.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On 2012-10-02 09:26:56 +, WhisperingWally said: Gelonida N gelonida at gmail.com writes: I wondered whether some of you have a little more insight into what's going on with PIL. AFAIK the latest PIL stuff lives here: hg.effbot.org Certainly true, though somewhat meaningless in the current context of what's going on with PIL?[1]. The latest Pillow (PIL fork) lives here: - https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow And if folks commit meaningful changes there, we'll get releases out as needed. In other words, you are welcome and encouraged to explore all your options. And if it helps, you can affect the future of PIL in a meaningful way via Pillow. Alex [1] The last commit to: http://hg.effbot.org/pil-2009-raclette was in 2011. Based on that information, the answer would appear to be nothing, which is why Pillow exists. -- Alex Clark · http://aclark.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On 09/25/2012 02:42 PM, alex23 wrote: On Sep 25, 6:25 pm, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems to be safe to use either Christoph' binary PIL distribution or to use Pillow. The fact, that pillow is accessable via PyPi / easy_install / PIP pushes me slightly towards pillow. I assume it's best to uninstall PIL before installing pillow. I would expect you'd be fine. Being a different package, it's a different namespace, so they shouldn't conflict. This is what is confusing me. if I start with a new python and I just install Pillow, then pillow is imported via import PIL so it does not seem to have a separate name space If I had PIL and pillow installed, then I wouldn't even know how to choose which one to import. On a Linux machine: What would happen in a virtualenv with sitepackages (amonst them PIL installed and a pillow installed ontop of it? I don't think I can uninstall PIL, as many distro packages depend on it. I don't want to create a virtualenv without site packages, as I have many dependencies and some of them are a little tricky to compile. Again, you should be fine, as it's in a separate namespace. You definitely don't want to mess with PIL if you have other dependencies. Well I'm slightly confused, but will play a little to see what exactly works -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On Sep 27, 7:44 am, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: This is what is confusing me. if I start with a new python and I just install Pillow, then pillow is imported via import PIL so it does not seem to have a separate name space If I had PIL and pillow installed, then I wouldn't even know how to choose which one to import. Ah, I'm so sorry, I totally thought pillow had moved into its own namespace (but of course that makes no sense if it's to be a drop-in replacement for PIL). To be honest, I never rely on the system install of Python to provide anything, and prefer to use buildout/setup.py to guarantee the development/installation environment is correct. I suspect (and hopefully someone with more virtualenv experience will speak up here) that you'll have to modify your PYTHONPATH within the virtualenv to point to your local install of pillow before the site packages. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On 09/25/2012 01:38 AM, alex23 wrote: On Sep 25, 6:04 am, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: This all does not sound very comforting. Why is there no fix on the official site? Has a bug been logged about the issue? The Plone community keeps a fairly up-to-date fork called Pillow, we've had a lot of success using that locally: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow/ Thanks for all your answers. So it seems to be safe to use either Christoph' binary PIL distribution or to use Pillow. The fact, that pillow is accessable via PyPi / easy_install / PIP pushes me slightly towards pillow. I assume it's best to uninstall PIL before installing pillow. How much would I confuse easy_install / pip in a normal windows non virutal environment if I didn't uninstall PIP before (or even worse if I installed PIL, then pillow and uninstalled then PIL) (Just anticipating all the smart thigns, that my collegues (or myself) might do On a Linux machine: What would happen in a virtualenv with sitepackages (amonst them PIL installed and a pillow installed ontop of it? I don't think I can uninstall PIL, as many distro packages depend on it. I don't want to create a virtualenv without site packages, as I have many dependencies and some of them are a little tricky to compile. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On Sep 25, 6:25 pm, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems to be safe to use either Christoph' binary PIL distribution or to use Pillow. The fact, that pillow is accessable via PyPi / easy_install / PIP pushes me slightly towards pillow. I assume it's best to uninstall PIL before installing pillow. I would expect you'd be fine. Being a different package, it's a different namespace, so they shouldn't conflict. On a Linux machine: What would happen in a virtualenv with sitepackages (amonst them PIL installed and a pillow installed ontop of it? I don't think I can uninstall PIL, as many distro packages depend on it. I don't want to create a virtualenv without site packages, as I have many dependencies and some of them are a little tricky to compile. Again, you should be fine, as it's in a separate namespace. You definitely don't want to mess with PIL if you have other dependencies. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On Sep 25, 6:04 am, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: This all does not sound very comforting. Why is there no fix on the official site? Has a bug been logged about the issue? The Plone community keeps a fairly up-to-date fork called Pillow, we've had a lot of success using that locally: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On Monday, September 24, 2012 4:38:05 PM UTC-7, alex23 wrote: On Sep 25, 6:04 am, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: This all does not sound very comforting. Why is there no fix on the official site? Has a bug been logged about the issue? See issue #1 at http://hg.effbot.org/pil-117/issue/1/windows-build-of-_imagingft-module-fails Christoph The Plone community keeps a fairly up-to-date fork called Pillow, we've had a lot of success using that locally: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On 2012-09-24 23:38:05 +, alex23 said: On Sep 25, 6:04 am, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: This all does not sound very comforting. Why is there no fix on the official site? Has a bug been logged about the issue? The Plone community keeps a fairly up-to-date fork called Pillow, we've had a lot of success using that locally: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow/ Actually, I started it for the Plone community, but have recently broadened the scope (since most of the contributions came from outside Plone). It now lives here: - https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow If you have any trouble using it, please open a ticket here: - https://github.com/python-imaging/Pillow/issues Alex -- Alex Clark · http://pythonpackages.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On Sep 25, 6:04 am, Gelonida N gelon...@gmail.com wrote: So I'll probably try to install the custom binary, but would like to know whether anybody has experience with this build.http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#pil Sorry, I missed this the first time. I'm using this version successfully under Windows 7 64-bit. I've had nothing but success with extensions I've used from that site. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PIL questions: still supported? Problems on 2.7 for win? alternatives?
On Sep 25, 11:46 am, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: Actually, I started it for the Plone community, but have recently broadened the scope (since most of the contributions came from outside Plone). You're a saint, thanks for taking this on. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
