Re: Running Python web apps on shared ASO servers?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:03:33 +0200, Gilles nos...@nospam.com wrote: Does it mean that ASO only supports writing Python web apps as long-running processes (CGI, FCGI, WSGI, SCGI) instead of embedded Python à la PHP? I need to get the big picture about the different solutions to run a Python web application. From what I read, it seems like this is the way things involved over the years: CGI : original method. Slow because the server has to spawn a new process to run the interpreter + script every time a script is run. mod_python : Apache module alternative to CGI. The interpreter is loaded once, and running a script means just handling the script mod_wsgi : mod_python is no longer developped, and mod_wsgi is its new reincarnation FastCGI and SCGI: Faster alternativees to CGI; Run as independent programs, and communicate with the web server through either a Unix socket (located on the same host) or a TCP socket (remote host) Is this correct? Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Running Python web apps on shared ASO servers?
On 8/16/2012 7:01 AM Gilles said... On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:03:33 +0200, Gilles nos...@nospam.com wrote: Does it mean that ASO only supports writing Python web apps as long-running processes (CGI, FCGI, WSGI, SCGI) instead of embedded Python à la PHP? I need to get the big picture about the different solutions to run a Python web application. From what I read, it seems like this is the way things involved over the years: CGI : original method. Slow because the server has to spawn a new process to run the interpreter + script every time a script is run. mod_python : Apache module alternative to CGI. The interpreter is loaded once, and running a script means just handling the script mod_wsgi : mod_python is no longer developped, and mod_wsgi is its new reincarnation FastCGI and SCGI: Faster alternativees to CGI; Run as independent programs, and communicate with the web server through either a Unix socket (located on the same host) or a TCP socket (remote host) Is this correct? Thank you. I'm sure there's no single correct answer to this. Consider (python 2.6]: emile@paj39:~$ mkdir web emile@paj39:~$ cd web emile@paj39:~/web$ cat test.html hello from test.html emile@paj39:~/web$ python -m SimpleHTTPServer Then browse to localhost:8000/test.html Emile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Running Python web apps on shared ASO servers?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:26:19 +0100, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote: Just to make a point: one person's isn't a good solution is another person's works perfectly well for me. Modern servers are really quite quick: the cost of starting up a Python process and generating an HTML page can be really quite low. I've certainly had low-traffic production websites running for years on CGI without anyone complaining. Thanks Tim for the input. I'll try the different solutions available and see if CGI is good enough for my needs. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Running Python web apps on shared ASO servers?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 07:56:26 +0200, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: You should probably read the mentioned forum resources to learn details about the Python support provided by your web site hoster. Yup, but so far, no answer, so I figured someone here might now. Those articles seem to indicate that CGI isn't a good solution when mod_python isn't available, so it looks like I'll have to investigate FastCGI, WSGI, etc. http://docs.python.org/howto/webservers.html http://stackoverflow.com/questions/219110/how-python-web-frameworks-wsgi-and-cgi-fit-together Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Running Python web apps on shared ASO servers?
On 12/08/2012 21:52, Gilles wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 07:56:26 +0200, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: You should probably read the mentioned forum resources to learn details about the Python support provided by your web site hoster. Yup, but so far, no answer, so I figured someone here might now. Those articles seem to indicate that CGI isn't a good solution when mod_python isn't available Just to make a point: one person's isn't a good solution is another person's works perfectly well for me. Modern servers are really quite quick: the cost of starting up a Python process and generating an HTML page can be really quite low. I've certainly had low-traffic production websites running for years on CGI without anyone complaining. If speed was an issue or if I thought that I'd be getting more requests than I am then I'd consider a more sophisticated solution. TJG -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Running Python web apps on shared ASO servers?
Hello I use A Small Orange (ASO) as my web provider. Asking the question in their forum so far didn't work, so I figured I might have a faster answer by asking here. Support replied this in an old thread: Just a CGI option. We don't have enough users to justify adding mod_python support. http://forums.asmallorange.com/topic/4672-python-support/page__hl__python http://forums.asmallorange.com/topic/4918-python-fcgi-verses-mod-python/ Does it mean that ASO only supports writing Python web apps as long-running processes (CGI, FCGI, WSGI, SCGI) instead of embedded Python à la PHP? If that's the case, which smallest tool would you recomment to write basic apps, eg. handling forms, etc.? Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Running Python web apps on shared ASO servers?
Gilles nos...@nospam.com writes: ... Support replied this in an old thread: Just a CGI option. We don't have enough users to justify adding mod_python support. http://forums.asmallorange.com/topic/4672-python-support/page__hl__python http://forums.asmallorange.com/topic/4918-python-fcgi-verses-mod-python/ Does it mean that ASO only supports writing Python web apps as long-running processes (CGI, FCGI, WSGI, SCGI) instead of embedded Python à la PHP? It looks as if you could use CGI to activate Python scripts. There seems to be no mod_python support. You should probably read the mentioned forum resources to learn details about the Python support provided by your web site hoster. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
