Re: Unicode humor
This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote: British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's sort of like when Bush said The French don't even have a word for entrepreneur. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. IM: da...@vex.net, VOIP: sip:da...@vex.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's called double entendre in English (using French words, from à double entente), but that isn't correct French (double sens). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
- Original Message - On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's called double entendre in English (using French words, from à double entente), but that isn't correct French (double sens). Thanks for clarifying, I didn't know double entendre had actually a meaning in english, it's obviously 2 french words but this is the first time I see them used together. JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 15/05/2013 18:04, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: - Original Message - On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's called double entendre in English (using French words, from à double entente), but that isn't correct French (double sens). Thanks for clarifying, I didn't know double entendre had actually a meaning in english, it's obviously 2 french words but this is the first time I see them used together. Occasionally speakers of one language will borrow a word or phrase from another language and use it in a way a native speaker wouldn't (or even understand). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
- Original Message - On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote: British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's sort of like when Bush said The French don't even have a word for entrepreneur. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. IM: da...@vex.net, VOIP: sip:da...@vex.net Nice one (to MRAB's credit his humor was intentional :o) ) JM -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 15/05/2013 1:21 PM, MRAB wrote: On 15/05/2013 18:04, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: - Original Message - On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote: This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement. It's called double entendre in English (using French words, from à double entente), but that isn't correct French (double sens). Thanks for clarifying, I didn't know double entendre had actually a meaning in english, it's obviously 2 french words but this is the first time I see them used together. Occasionally speakers of one language will borrow a word or phrase from another language and use it in a way a native speaker wouldn't (or even understand). double-entendre - Chambers Fails, but see Wiktionary: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/double_entendre Colin W. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On May 16, 12:09 am, D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net wrote: It's sort of like when Bush said The French don't even have a word for entrepreneur. Or The Russians have no word for it, therefore detente must be a one- way street. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On Sat, 11 May 2013 01:16:36 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:06 AM, jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
recently:
http://xkcd.com/1209/
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This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
By the skywriter, or by the two on the ground, or by Randall Munroe?
Obviously by all three. It takes *hours* to execute
'è'*1000.replace('è', 'ã')
using a skywriting plane, so obviously it isn't Unicode compliant.
--
Steven
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Re: Unicode humor
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:07 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote: On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour. In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then get to laugh at them. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 10/05/2013 17:25, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:07 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote: On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour. In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then get to laugh at them. ChrisA This simply shows bias to the English speaking world, as does Python unicode, at least in 3.3+. I wouldn't mind betting that other languages can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly even the Germans die laughing? -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: This simply shows bias to the English speaking world, as does Python unicode, at least in 3.3+. I wouldn't mind betting that other languages can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly even the Germans die laughing? It most certainly can. However, the space it takes up depends on how you encode the combining characters; for maximal efficiency of transmission, you would want to use the fully-composed version, because like music, if it isn't composed, it's decomposed. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:06 AM, jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. By the skywriter, or by the two on the ground, or by Randall Munroe? Or by jmf? ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) --Ned. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote: On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote: On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 10/05/2013 17:07, rusi wrote: On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote: On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant British humour includes double entendre, which is not French-compliant. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
On 05/10/2013 09:07 AM, rusi wrote: On May 10, 8:32 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote: On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote: On 8 mai, 15:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode. jmf And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :) Isn't that a crime in the UK? ChrisA The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that its not unicode compliant Is so! It fits inside the first 127 code points!! As a bonus it also takes less brain power^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H space. ;) -- ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Unicode humor
Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
I saw this this morning and the first thing I thought of was this list... unlike you I was too lazy to post it :) On 8 May 2013 14:19, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- ./Sven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Unicode humor
Am 08.05.13 15:19, schrieb Roy Smith: Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on recently: http://xkcd.com/1209/ http://xkcd.com/1137/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
