Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
I have just started using 2.6 (upgrade from 2.5). All my web applications' code (using Django), work without any changes. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:25:47 -0700, Kee Nethery wrote: I would prefer to be in 3.x because all the inconsistencies of how you do things in 2.x make it harder than it needs to be to learn the language. People who have been coding in 2.x for along time don't notice how the syntax is wonky in places. Their fingers type the right stuff. As a newbie I assume that everything works the same way and I am frequently surprised. What inconsistencies surprise you? -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:27 AM, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: Kee Nethery wrote: I am in 2.x because the IDE I am using does not support stepping through my code when in 3.x. As soon as the IDE I use supports debugging in 3.x, I'm moving up to 3.x. I would prefer to be in 3.x because all the inconsistencies of how you do things in 2.x make it harder than it needs to be to learn the language. So would I. But the infrastructure isn't there yet. Realistically, 2.5 is the production stable version of CPython. Almost all important modules work with CPython 2.5. Some work with 2.6. 3.x support remains spotty. Give it a year. Or two. I've tried using 3.1, but had to back down. What are the differences between 2.5 and 2.6? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:52:44 -0500 Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:27 AM, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: What are the differences between 2.5 and 2.6? http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html /W -- INVALID? DE! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Andreas Waldenburger use...@geekmail.invalid wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:52:44 -0500 Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:27 AM, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: What are the differences between 2.5 and 2.6? http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html Are all packages available in 2.5 also available in 2.6? Regards, Peng -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:04:25 -0500 Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Andreas Waldenburger use...@geekmail.invalid wrote: On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:52:44 -0500 Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:27 AM, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: What are the differences between 2.5 and 2.6? http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html Are all packages available in 2.5 also available in 2.6? If the release notes don't say otherwise, then yes. The general rule is this: *Only* Python 3 breaks backwards compatibility. If it works in Python 2.n then it will work unmodified in Python 2.(n+1). Please note that I'm talking about the *standard library* and the language itself, of course. Usually newer versions are not as widely supported as older ones as far as third party modules go. /W -- INVALID? DE! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
Hi, I just start python programming. That is, I don't have any legacy code. I notice that there are different versions of python. I would guess that older version of python has the more libraries than newer versions. But the code developed in newer versions might be better supported in the future. Can somebody give a guideline on which version of python a new python developer shall choose? Regards, Peng -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
Peng Yu wrote: Hi, I just start python programming. That is, I don't have any legacy code. I notice that there are different versions of python. I would guess that older version of python has the more libraries than newer versions. But the code developed in newer versions might be better supported in the future. Can somebody give a guideline on which version of python a new python developer shall choose? My own view is start with 3.1 and move back to 2.6 or even 2.5 when you need a library not available with 3.1. Others will say start with 2.6 or 2.5. This has been discussed previously on this list. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
On Sep 12, 3:47 pm, Peng Yu pengyu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just start python programming. That is, I don't have any legacy code. I notice that there are different versions of python. I would guess that older version of python has the more libraries than newer versions. But the code developed in newer versions might be better supported in the future. Can somebody give a guideline on which version of python a new python developer shall choose? Regards, Peng Boxers or briefs? ;-) Well both have pros and cons. As for myself i am using 2.x until it expires, but that is because i already have much code in 2.x line. If you are starting from scratch i would say 3.x. The only bad aspect of 2.x right now is that eventually (if you want to keep current) you will have to make the change to 3.0 and since backwards compatabiltity is broken you will need to do more than just download the new version! At the very least you should learn the 2.x just to see why such changes were made. But in the end keep all *real* projects in the Python 3.0. So just lean with 3.0 and if you find some need for 2.x (3rd party modules) use it for christs sake! At this point in time with 3rd party modules still converting i would say 3.0 may feel like a pair of tight briefs and your boys might start to feel confined shall we say. With 2.x you will feel the free- ballin' freedom of more choices at your disposal. But eventually the tides will shift! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
On Sep 12, 4:10 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Peng Yu wrote: Hi, I just start python programming. That is, I don't have any legacy code. I notice that there are different versions of python. I would guess that older version of python has the more libraries than newer versions. But the code developed in newer versions might be better supported in the future. Can somebody give a guideline on which version of python a new python developer shall choose? My own view is start with 3.1 and move back to 2.6 or even 2.5 when you need a library not available with 3.1. Others will say start with 2.6 or 2.5. This has been discussed previously on this list. Would you please point me where the previous discussion is? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
Peng Yu wrote: On Sep 12, 4:10 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Peng Yu wrote: Hi, I just start python programming. That is, I don't have any legacy code. I notice that there are different versions of python. I would guess that older version of python has the more libraries than newer versions. But the code developed in newer versions might be better supported in the future. Can somebody give a guideline on which version of python a new python developer shall choose? My own view is start with 3.1 and move back to 2.6 or even 2.5 when you need a library not available with 3.1. Others will say start with 2.6 or 2.5. This has been discussed previously on this list. Would you please point me where the previous discussion is? http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/topics type question in search box and click 'search this group' and see what you get -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
I am in 2.x because the IDE I am using does not support stepping through my code when in 3.x. As soon as the IDE I use supports debugging in 3.x, I'm moving up to 3.x. I would prefer to be in 3.x because all the inconsistencies of how you do things in 2.x make it harder than it needs to be to learn the language. People who have been coding in 2.x for along time don't notice how the syntax is wonky in places. Their fingers type the right stuff. As a newbie I assume that everything works the same way and I am frequently surprised. One of the goals of 3.x was to make the language more consistent and that would make it easier for us newbies. Kee -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Which version of python I should use if I just start programming in python?
Kee Nethery wrote: I am in 2.x because the IDE I am using does not support stepping through my code when in 3.x. As soon as the IDE I use supports debugging in 3.x, I'm moving up to 3.x. I would prefer to be in 3.x because all the inconsistencies of how you do things in 2.x make it harder than it needs to be to learn the language. So would I. But the infrastructure isn't there yet. Realistically, 2.5 is the production stable version of CPython. Almost all important modules work with CPython 2.5. Some work with 2.6. 3.x support remains spotty. Give it a year. Or two. I've tried using 3.1, but had to back down. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
