Re: Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599
Hi All, An US editor gives feedback and tweaks wording as below, I am going to update installation instructions [1] with these words: *Upgrading OpenOffice for Windows* If the current version is 3.x, you can remove it before you upgrade to version 4.x, or keep it and install 4.x as an additional version. 1. In the Installation Wizard, do one of the following: - To remove 3.x and install 4.x, select *Remove all older product versions*. The startup group item, desktop icon, and entry in the Add/Remove Programs list will all refer to 4.x. - To have both 3.x and 4.x on your computer, deselect *Remove all older product versions*. Each version will have its own startup group item, desktop icon, and entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. 2. If the current version is 4.x, but is older than the point version that you want to install (for example, you have 4.0.0 but want to install 4.0.1), the older version will be removed and the later one will be installed. The startup group item, desktop icon, and entry in the Add/Remove Programs list will all refer to the later version. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thank you all for valuable comments, I am contacting the native speaker for tweaking the wording. (Added d...@openoffice.apache.org in this mail thread) On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pedro Per Juergen, we won't release msp's because of some issues that we have to solve first. So I think, we will not mention MSP in Installation guide although the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP. How do you think? On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds perfect. Adding options (instead of assuming and deciding for the user) is always positive ;) Please make sure that the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Bug 124599 [2] is verified fixed in AOO 4.1.0 RC2, from current behaviors and comments provided in this bug, the expected behaviors for upgrade on Windows could be: 1. If the former version is 3.x, there will be a check box in Installation Wizard providing the option to keep or remove the former version - If select Remove all older product versions, then 3.x will be removed and 4.x will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for 4.x - If de-select Remove all older product versions, then 4.x will be installed with keeping 3.x, there will be 2 startup groups, 2 desktop icons and 2 entries in the Add/Remove Programs list. These artifacts are one suite for 3.x and the other suite for 4.x 2. If the former version is also 4.x, but older than current installing one(e.g. install 4.1.0 over 4.0.0), then the older one will be removed and the newer one will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for the newer one. I think above behaviors are acceptable, I propose to update the installation instructions [1] according those. Any comments, or any objections? [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on 2014-03-26) does not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation for Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the old version for an upgrade installation. I propose development update the installation instructions [1] when submit the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see with details as below: 1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from 3.3 to 3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc) 2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms (Windows, Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions on Linux and Mac, but need confirmation That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria for testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for guiding. You are right. We need to have our installations instructions accurate! Commmitters can directly edit this page and commit. Others can submit patches which we can review. We could use help from all folks using our installation binaries on this. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 -
Re: Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599
Dear Pedro Per Juergen, we won't release msp's because of some issues that we have to solve first. So I think, we will not mention MSP in Installation guide although the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP. How do you think? On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds perfect. Adding options (instead of assuming and deciding for the user) is always positive ;) Please make sure that the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Bug 124599 [2] is verified fixed in AOO 4.1.0 RC2, from current behaviors and comments provided in this bug, the expected behaviors for upgrade on Windows could be: 1. If the former version is 3.x, there will be a check box in Installation Wizard providing the option to keep or remove the former version - If select Remove all older product versions, then 3.x will be removed and 4.x will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for 4.x - If de-select Remove all older product versions, then 4.x will be installed with keeping 3.x, there will be 2 startup groups, 2 desktop icons and 2 entries in the Add/Remove Programs list. These artifacts are one suite for 3.x and the other suite for 4.x 2. If the former version is also 4.x, but older than current installing one(e.g. install 4.1.0 over 4.0.0), then the older one will be removed and the newer one will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for the newer one. I think above behaviors are acceptable, I propose to update the installation instructions [1] according those. Any comments, or any objections? [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on 2014-03-26) does not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation for Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the old version for an upgrade installation. I propose development update the installation instructions [1] when submit the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see with details as below: 1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from 3.3 to 3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc) 2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms (Windows, Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions on Linux and Mac, but need confirmation That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria for testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for guiding. You are right. We need to have our installations instructions accurate! Commmitters can directly edit this page and commit. Others can submit patches which we can review. We could use help from all folks using our installation binaries on this. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly -- Regards, Yu Zhen -- - MzK Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect. -- James Mason -- Regards, Yu Zhen -- Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599
Hi All, Thank you all for valuable comments, I am contacting the native speaker for tweaking the wording. (Added d...@openoffice.apache.org in this mail thread) On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pedro Per Juergen, we won't release msp's because of some issues that we have to solve first. So I think, we will not mention MSP in Installation guide although the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP. How do you think? On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds perfect. Adding options (instead of assuming and deciding for the user) is always positive ;) Please make sure that the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Bug 124599 [2] is verified fixed in AOO 4.1.0 RC2, from current behaviors and comments provided in this bug, the expected behaviors for upgrade on Windows could be: 1. If the former version is 3.x, there will be a check box in Installation Wizard providing the option to keep or remove the former version - If select Remove all older product versions, then 3.x will be removed and 4.x will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for 4.x - If de-select Remove all older product versions, then 4.x will be installed with keeping 3.x, there will be 2 startup groups, 2 desktop icons and 2 entries in the Add/Remove Programs list. These artifacts are one suite for 3.x and the other suite for 4.x 2. If the former version is also 4.x, but older than current installing one(e.g. install 4.1.0 over 4.0.0), then the older one will be removed and the newer one will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for the newer one. I think above behaviors are acceptable, I propose to update the installation instructions [1] according those. Any comments, or any objections? [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on 2014-03-26) does not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation for Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the old version for an upgrade installation. I propose development update the installation instructions [1] when submit the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see with details as below: 1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from 3.3 to 3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc) 2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms (Windows, Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions on Linux and Mac, but need confirmation That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria for testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for guiding. You are right. We need to have our installations instructions accurate! Commmitters can directly edit this page and commit. Others can submit patches which we can review. We could use help from all folks using our installation binaries on this. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly -- Regards, Yu Zhen -- - MzK Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect. -- James Mason -- Regards, Yu Zhen -- Regards, Yu Zhen -- Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599
Sounds perfect. Adding options (instead of assuming and deciding for the user) is always positive ;) Please make sure that the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Bug 124599 [2] is verified fixed in AOO 4.1.0 RC2, from current behaviors and comments provided in this bug, the expected behaviors for upgrade on Windows could be: 1. If the former version is 3.x, there will be a check box in Installation Wizard providing the option to keep or remove the former version - If select Remove all older product versions, then 3.x will be removed and 4.x will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for 4.x - If de-select Remove all older product versions, then 4.x will be installed with keeping 3.x, there will be 2 startup groups, 2 desktop icons and 2 entries in the Add/Remove Programs list. These artifacts are one suite for 3.x and the other suite for 4.x 2. If the former version is also 4.x, but older than current installing one(e.g. install 4.1.0 over 4.0.0), then the older one will be removed and the newer one will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for the newer one. I think above behaviors are acceptable, I propose to update the installation instructions [1] according those. Any comments, or any objections? [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on 2014-03-26) does not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation for Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the old version for an upgrade installation. I propose development update the installation instructions [1] when submit the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see with details as below: 1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from 3.3 to 3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc) 2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms (Windows, Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions on Linux and Mac, but need confirmation That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria for testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for guiding. You are right. We need to have our installations instructions accurate! Commmitters can directly edit this page and commit. Others can submit patches which we can review. We could use help from all folks using our installation binaries on this. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly -- Regards, Yu Zhen -- - MzK Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect. -- James Mason -- Regards, Yu Zhen
Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599
Hi, The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on 2014-03-26) does not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation for Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the old version for an upgrade installation. I propose development update the installation instructions [1] when submit the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see with details as below: 1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from 3.3 to 3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc) 2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms (Windows, Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions on Linux and Mac, but need confirmation That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria for testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for guiding. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly -- Regards, Yu Zhen
Re: Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on 2014-03-26) does not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation for Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the old version for an upgrade installation. I propose development update the installation instructions [1] when submit the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see with details as below: 1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from 3.3 to 3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc) 2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms (Windows, Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions on Linux and Mac, but need confirmation That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria for testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for guiding. You are right. We need to have our installations instructions accurate! Commmitters can directly edit this page and commit. Others can submit patches which we can review. We could use help from all folks using our installation binaries on this. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former versions correctly -- Regards, Yu Zhen -- - MzK Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time, for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect. -- James Mason
