[Qgis-developer] Changelog updates for 2.2.0

2014-01-22 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi all

We have more or less finished writing up the changelog [1] for 2.2. If
anyone has further suggestions of things that should go into the changelog,
could you please create and account and add them, or just pop me an email.
Also some of the entries could use some more detail, please feel free to
send me extended notes.

@Marco Hugentobler (or anyone else who can answer) can you please provide
some background on the datum shift and dxf export features. How does the
datum shift dialog get triggered and what do users of the feature need to
know. Also for dxf export, is anyone able to provide a screenshot of a QGIS
exported project loaded in a CAD app?

@Paolo could you provide a definitive list of sponsors for me to add to the
top of the changelog  for 2.2.0?

Before the release we will export the changelog to Restructured Text and it
would be great if the docs team can incorporate it into the web site.

[1] http://changelog.linfiniti.com/qgis/version/21/

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Changelog updates for 2.2.0

2014-01-22 Thread Nyall Dawson
Tim -

What's the cut off date for editing the changelog? There's some
additions/fixes to descriptions I'd like to make, but want to take
maximum advantage of the pre-feature freeze cut off period before I
get around to this...

Nyall


On 22 January 2014 19:00, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
 Hi all

 We have more or less finished writing up the changelog [1] for 2.2. If
 anyone has further suggestions of things that should go into the changelog,
 could you please create and account and add them, or just pop me an email.
 Also some of the entries could use some more detail, please feel free to
 send me extended notes.

 @Marco Hugentobler (or anyone else who can answer) can you please provide
 some background on the datum shift and dxf export features. How does the
 datum shift dialog get triggered and what do users of the feature need to
 know. Also for dxf export, is anyone able to provide a screenshot of a QGIS
 exported project loaded in a CAD app?

 @Paolo could you provide a definitive list of sponsors for me to add to the
 top of the changelog  for 2.2.0?

 Before the release we will export the changelog to Restructured Text and it
 would be great if the docs team can incorporate it into the web site.

 [1] http://changelog.linfiniti.com/qgis/version/21/

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Changelog updates for 2.2.0

2014-01-22 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Tim -

 What's the cut off date for editing the changelog? There's some
 additions/fixes to descriptions I'd like to make, but want to take
 maximum advantage of the pre-feature freeze cut off period before I
 get around to this...


There is no specific cut off (other than the release date itself) but I
would like to personally stop working on it as I have other things on my
plate to deal with. Others feel free to add / revise entries as they see
fit (with the obvious request that things are kept neat  tidy).

Regards

Tim





 Nyall


 On 22 January 2014 19:00, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
  Hi all
 
  We have more or less finished writing up the changelog [1] for 2.2. If
  anyone has further suggestions of things that should go into the
 changelog,
  could you please create and account and add them, or just pop me an
 email.
  Also some of the entries could use some more detail, please feel free to
  send me extended notes.
 
  @Marco Hugentobler (or anyone else who can answer) can you please provide
  some background on the datum shift and dxf export features. How does the
  datum shift dialog get triggered and what do users of the feature need to
  know. Also for dxf export, is anyone able to provide a screenshot of a
 QGIS
  exported project loaded in a CAD app?
 
  @Paolo could you provide a definitive list of sponsors for me to add to
 the
  top of the changelog  for 2.2.0?
 
  Before the release we will export the changelog to Restructured Text and
 it
  would be great if the docs team can incorporate it into the web site.
 
  [1] http://changelog.linfiniti.com/qgis/version/21/
 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

2014-01-22 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi Tim

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
 Hi Alex


 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com
 wrote:

 On 01/20/2014 12:29 PM, Tim Sutton wrote:
  Ok I guess you can see where I am going to go with this email :-) Is
  there
  any point to allowing users to simplify point layers? Alvaro, can your
  remove the point rendering tab in layer properties (and I guess check
  internally that you are not trying to simplify point layers)? Or is
  there a
  use case for point simplification that I am not getting?
 


 Yeah I am familiar with clustering (and would love to see it as a feature in
 QGIS),

Actually the point displacement renderer already does clustering,
though it lacks more options to customize how the clustered symbol
would look like.

Cheers
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Re: [Qgis-developer] custom application: cannot open shared object file

2014-01-22 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi Denis

I think you just need to set the Run Environment of your project in Qt
Creator - add LD_LIBRARY_PATH or PATH environment variable (depending
on your system) pointing to the directory with QGIS libraries.

Regards
Martin

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Denis Rouzaud denis.rouz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to create a custom application using QGIS API.

 I am using Qt Creator and while running the app I get this error:
 error while loading shared libraries: libqgis_core.so.2.1.0: cannot open
 shared object file: No such file or directory

 Here is the project file:

 QT   += core gui xml

 greaterThan(QT_MAJOR_VERSION, 4): QT += widgets

 TARGET = hfp
 TEMPLATE = app

 SOURCES += main.cpp\
 mainwindow.cpp

 HEADERS  += mainwindow.h

 FORMS+= mainwindow.ui

 win32:CONFIG(release, debug|release): \
   LIBS += -L/$${QGISDIR}/lib/ -lqgis_core -lqgis_gui -lqgis_app

 else:win32:CONFIG(debug, debug|release): \
   LIBS += -L/$${QGISDIR}/lib/ -lqgis_core -lqgis_gui -lqgis_app

 else:unix: \
   QGISDIR = /home/denis/opt/qgis/Quantum-GIS \
   LIBS += -L/$${QGISDIR}/build/output/lib/ -lqgis_core -lqgis_gui -lqgis_app

 INCLUDEPATH += $${QGISDIR}/src \
 $${QGISDIR}/src/core \
$${QGISDIR}/src/gui \
   $${QGISDIR}/build/ \

 DEFINES += GUI_EXPORT= CORE_EXPORT=

 What am I missing here?

 If you have any general comment regarding this project file, it is very
 welcome... first time trying this.

 Thanks a lot,

 Denis

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[Qgis-developer] Atlas generation and scaling

2014-01-22 Thread Bo Victor Thomsen
Hi all - (sorry Martin for sending this question to your private mail 
first!)


I have a question about Atlas generation and scaling:

Does the Atlas generator respect scale settings defined under Project 
properties -- General -- Project scales when you're using the 
Margin around feature option in Atlas generation -- Scaling 
settings ?


It would be nice to only have decent scale values in the atlas 
generated maps like 1:12.500,  1:20.000 or whatever instead of 
1:11.123,24


Regards
Bo Victor Thomsen
Aestas-GIS
Denmark


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Clustering algorithms from RISE

2014-01-22 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi Sergio

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Sergio Botero sergio...@gmail.com wrote:

 As one of the relatively new developers of Clusterpy, I have been looking
 into the possibility of
 making Clusterpy (a modified version) part of the Processing code.

 First I would like to know, do you think that this kind of algorithms area a
 good fit for the QGIS
 core?
 I also would like to know, what would be your proposed process to make this
 happen? anyone
 I should contact directly?

I think the best thing to do for a start would be to create a Python
plugin for QGIS that will use the Processing framework. Then you could
upload the plugin to the repository [1], so the potential users will
be able to seamlessly download and install it.

If there would be a lot of interest from users to have the clustering
functionality available in default installation of QGIS, we could
discuss the inclusion of the code into QGIS codebase.

Regards
Martin

[1] http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Atlas generation and scaling

2014-01-22 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 22 January 2014 20:26, Bo Victor Thomsen bo.victor.thom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all - (sorry Martin for sending this question to your private mail
 first!)

 I have a question about Atlas generation and scaling:

 Does the Atlas generator respect scale settings defined under Project
 properties -- General -- Project scales when you're using the Margin
 around feature option in Atlas generation -- Scaling settings ?

 It would be nice to only have decent scale values in the atlas generated
 maps like 1:12.500,  1:20.000 or whatever instead of 1:11.123,24


No, it doesn't respect them currently. Can you please file a feature
request for this at http://hub.qgis.org/issues?

Cheers,
Nyall
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Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

2014-01-22 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tim

 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
  Hi Alex
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Alex Mandel 
 tech_...@wildintellect.com
  wrote:
 
  On 01/20/2014 12:29 PM, Tim Sutton wrote:
   Ok I guess you can see where I am going to go with this email :-) Is
   there
   any point to allowing users to simplify point layers? Alvaro, can your
   remove the point rendering tab in layer properties (and I guess check
   internally that you are not trying to simplify point layers)? Or is
   there a
   use case for point simplification that I am not getting?
  
 
 
  Yeah I am familiar with clustering (and would love to see it as a
 feature in
  QGIS),

 Actually the point displacement renderer already does clustering,
 though it lacks more options to customize how the clustered symbol
 would look like.


Doesnt it do the reverse? i.e. when more than one point falls in the same
place, it shifts them aside so they are all visible. If it can be made to
produce a scaled symbol based on the number of underlying points that would
be cool.That would also be a good time to change its name to 'Custer or
displace' or something.

Regards

Tim



 Cheers
 Martin




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Re: [Qgis-developer] [QGIS-UX] option to disable font vectorization in labels

2014-01-22 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hello,

Le mardi 21 janvier 2014 21:45:16, Nyall Dawson a écrit :
 On 22/01/2014 4:56 am, Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at wrote:
  Am 21.01.2014, 10:24 Uhr, schrieb Vincent Mora vincent.m...@oslandia.com
  
  - a composer option: you make the choice when you export to svg, in this
 case you don't see the result until you open the svg
  Thanks for addressing this issue!
  For me, the most obvious place to put this option would be in the print
 composer. Maybe close to the print as raster option?
 
 I'm not a huge fan of this option, given that I'd like to keep the composer
 window as clear of clutter as possible. I think output format specific
 options like these (and saving svg to layers) should be put into a separate
 dialog which appears after the save file dialog. Much like how
 gimp/Photoshop/illustrator etc show a jpg quality dialog after choosing to
 save a file as jpg. The settings could either be remembered globally or per
 output filename.

-1 for another dialog window. It makes the user have to set another step to 
export before having a result. If you want to export the same composition work 
multiple times with different file names you would have to set this every time.
If you want QGIS to remember the settings, the user should have set it 
somewhere specifically. UX simplification is good, magic things happening 
behind 
the scene are not.
Generally im am more in favor of a configure first, then execute way of 
working than the opposite.
An intermediate solution could be to have an extended save as dialog box, 
with some options on the side.

 My ultimate goal (I was going to run this by the ux list) is to move
 infrequently used settings like resolution, page size/orientation, print as
 raster, etc and the atlas settings to their own composition properties
 dialog and then remove the need for the composition and atlas panels. Any
 thoughts on this?

Same, more dialog boxes is a -1 for me, panels are quick and convenient, and 
give a fast overview of things.
An option to hide or reduce them on the side would be preferable imho.

Only my personal opinion for what it's worth.


Vincent
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reminder: Freeze starts on 2014-01-24 (4 days)

2014-01-22 Thread Radim Blazek
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
 Hi

 Regarding whether we should keep giving releases names, I think we should
 (big +1) for the following reasons:

-1 for code names, see [1], it is all there what came to my mind:
Version 4.0? Ha! Why would I use an easily-recognizable number that
gives both a sense of the product history and clear indication of what
I'm talking about when I can show off my 1337 status by calling it Ice
Cream Sandwich,...

 * it (under our current scheme) pays homage to the hosts of our hackfests -
 lets be honest there isn't much reward in hosting it other than seeing your
 region represented in the release name

Cannot it be done in a different way, maybe even more explicitly, for
example a bottom bar on splash screen telling place/institution.

 * its a 'fun' part of our project culture and I would not like to see that
 we gradually remove everything that is fun and interesting about our project

Fun for you, disaster for me. When it comes to code names, I always
have to search a table of code names and translate it to a version
number. Too old, stupid, ... probably, even such people are using
QGIS.

 * users that I interact with often reference the release by its name, and I
 think it makes the individual releases more clearly distinguishable

 I would suggest a Latvian cartographer or place of interest. Then next
 release we can have a splash of some drunk guys wondering around Brighton on
 a Saturday night :-P

If you insist on mountains/cartographers, please order them at least
by height/birth day, that would be very helpful.

Radim
[1] http://gizmodo.com/5852191/enough-with-the-ridiculous-product-code-names

 Regards

 Tim


 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net
 wrote:

 That's funny! Good catch.

 Andreas

 Am 20.01.2014 20:12, schrieb Saber Razmjooei:
  How about Speed:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Speed
 
  Goes well with MTR too :)
 
  Cheers,
  Saber
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
  [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Andreas
  Neumann
  Sent: 20 January 2014 19:07
  To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
  Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Reminder: Freeze starts on 2014-01-24 (4
  days)
 
  Hi,
 
  Regarding the name, we could also continue with other famous
  cartographers -
  maybe someone from Latvia or England.
 
  Andreas
 
  Am 20.01.2014 18:48, schrieb Anita Graser:
  Am 20.01.2014, 15:50 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini
  cavall...@faunalia.it:
  question: do we *really* need a name? I think the good old days of
  pets  planets are gone, we can always have problem choosing a wrong
  name, and it will be increasingly difficult to find suitable ones.
 
  Well, we still have Brighton but I agree that we will probably run
  out of suitable names with the new faster releases. I could certainly
  live without release names.
 
  Best wishes,
  Anita
 
 
 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

2014-01-22 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Tim, I think that type of simplification should not be activated by
default. The risks of users just not knowing what's going on is high.

The discarding should be activated via check box when desired.
On 21 Jan 2014 12:01, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:

 Hi

 Sent from my mobile
 On 21 Jan 2014 3:10 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Also, that logic can only be applied for fully opaque point symbols. As
 soon as you have a semi transparent symbol, the repetition of points over a
 same map pixel does matter and needs to be preserved.

 Agreed but in that case surely you would just disable simplification?

 Regards

 Tim
 
  On 21 Jan 2014 07:46, A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es wrote:
 
  Ok, I will study it
 
 
  If you have time and inclination this would be great (note feature
 freeze starts in 4 days). A logical starting may be to only return one
 point per map pixel though I am not sure if you can push that kind of logic
 over to provider side very easily.
 
  Regards
 
  Tim
 
 
 
 
  
  De: Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com
  Para: A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es
  CC: qgis-developer qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
  Enviado: Lunes 20 de enero de 2014 22:57
  Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers
 
  Hi
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM, A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es
 wrote:
 
  done:
  https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/1093
 
  This patch hides the simplification rendering tab for point layers,
 now it is not supported (internally I am not trying to simplify point
 layers). Thanks Tim!
 
  About if there is a use case for point simplification, I know one,
 (gvSIG  + dielmo open lidar) use it for load extreme big point layers as
 LiDAR LAS files are.
 
  It know the code in java and I think easy migrate to QGIS.
 Basically, It ignore points by distance in a similar style as the current
 simplifier classes.
 
 
  Sorry I see my original email was not very clear - I meant if there
 was a use case for point simplification as *currently implemented in
 master* - I fully agree that filtering proximal points would be a good
 performance booster, as would providing a point clustering capability.
 
 
 
  If you think good for QGIS I think but I can imlement it
 
 
  That would be great! Thanks for your pull request.
 
  Regards
 
  Tim
 
 
  .
  Alvaro
 
  
  De: Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com
  Para: qgis-developer qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
  Enviado: Lunes 20 de enero de 2014 21:29
  Asunto: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers
 
  Ok I guess you can see where I am going to go with this email :-)
 Is there any point to allowing users to simplify point layers? Alvaro, can
 your remove the point rendering tab in layer properties (and I guess check
 internally that you are not trying to simplify point layers)? Or is there a
 use case for point simplification that I am not getting?
 
  Regards
 
  Tim
 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reminder: Freeze starts on 2014-01-24 (4 days)

2014-01-22 Thread Denis Rouzaud


On 22. 01. 14 11:37, Radim Blazek wrote:

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:

Hi

Regarding whether we should keep giving releases names, I think we should
(big +1) for the following reasons:

-1 for code names, see [1], it is all there what came to my mind:
Version 4.0? Ha! Why would I use an easily-recognizable number that
gives both a sense of the product history and clear indication of what
I'm talking about when I can show off my 1337 status by calling it Ice
Cream Sandwich,...


* it (under our current scheme) pays homage to the hosts of our hackfests -
lets be honest there isn't much reward in hosting it other than seeing your
region represented in the release name

Cannot it be done in a different way, maybe even more explicitly, for
example a bottom bar on splash screen telling place/institution.
Even though I would keep the names, we'll have troubles anyway: 2 HF a 
yeat with 3 releases, we won't be able to thank all the places...



* its a 'fun' part of our project culture and I would not like to see that
we gradually remove everything that is fun and interesting about our project

Fun for you, disaster for me. When it comes to code names, I always
have to search a table of code names and translate it to a version
number. Too old, stupid, ... probably, even such people are using
QGIS.


* users that I interact with often reference the release by its name, and I
think it makes the individual releases more clearly distinguishable

I would suggest a Latvian cartographer or place of interest. Then next
release we can have a splash of some drunk guys wondering around Brighton on
a Saturday night :-P

If you insist on mountains/cartographers, please order them at least
by height/birth day, that would be very helpful.

Radim
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Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

2014-01-22 Thread A Huarte
+1



 De: Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com
Para: Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com 
CC: A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es; qgis-developer 
qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org 
Enviado: Miércoles 22 de enero de 2014 11:41
Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers
 


Tim, I think that type of simplification should not be activated by default. 
The risks of users just not knowing what's going on is high. 
The discarding should be activated via check box when desired. 
On 21 Jan 2014 12:01, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:

Hi
Sent from my mobile 
On 21 Jan 2014 3:10 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, that logic can only be applied for fully opaque point symbols. As 
 soon as you have a semi transparent symbol, the repetition of points over a 
 same map pixel does matter and needs to be preserved.
Agreed but in that case surely you would just disable simplification?
Regards

Tim 

 On 21 Jan 2014 07:46, A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es wrote:

 Ok, I will study it


 If you have time and inclination this would be great (note feature freeze 
 starts in 4 days). A logical starting may be to only return one point per 
 map pixel though I am not sure if you can push that kind of logic over to 
 provider side very easily.

 Regards

 Tim
  



 
 De: Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com
 Para: A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es 
 CC: qgis-developer qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org 
 Enviado: Lunes 20 de enero de 2014 22:57
 Asunto: Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

 Hi


 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:47 PM, A Huarte ahuart...@yahoo.es wrote:

 done:
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/1093

 This patch hides the simplification rendering tab for point layers, 
 now it is not supported (internally I am not trying to simplify point 
 layers). Thanks Tim!

 About if there is a use case for point simplification, I know one, 
 (gvSIG  + dielmo open lidar) use it for load extreme big point layers 
 as LiDAR LAS files are.

 It know the code in java and I think easy migrate to QGIS. Basically, 
 It ignore points by distance in a similar style as the current 
 simplifier classes.


 Sorry I see my original email was not very clear - I meant if there was 
 a use case for point simplification as *currently implemented in 
 master* - I fully agree that filtering proximal points would be a good 
 performance booster, as would providing a point clustering capability. 
  


 If you think good for QGIS I think but I can imlement it


 That would be great! Thanks for your pull request.

 Regards

 Tim
  

 .
 Alvaro

 
 De: Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com
 Para: qgis-developer qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org 
 Enviado: Lunes 20 de enero de 2014 21:29
 Asunto: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

 Ok I guess you can see where I am going to go with this email :-) Is 
 there any point to allowing users to simplify point layers? Alvaro, 
 can your remove the point rendering tab in layer properties (and I 
 guess check internally that you are not trying to simplify point 
 layers)? Or is there a use case for point simplification that I am 
 not getting?

 Regards

 Tim

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Atlas generation and scaling

2014-01-22 Thread Bo Victor Thomsen

Done - as Feature request 9399

Regards
Bo Victor Thomsen

Den 22-01-2014 10:30, Nyall Dawson skrev:

On 22 January 2014 20:26, Bo Victor Thomsen bo.victor.thom...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all - (sorry Martin for sending this question to your private mail
first!)

I have a question about Atlas generation and scaling:

Does the Atlas generator respect scale settings defined under Project
properties -- General -- Project scales when you're using the Margin
around feature option in Atlas generation -- Scaling settings ?

It would be nice to only have decent scale values in the atlas generated
maps like 1:12.500,  1:20.000 or whatever instead of 1:11.123,24


No, it doesn't respect them currently. Can you please file a feature
request for this at http://hub.qgis.org/issues?

Cheers,
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Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

2014-01-22 Thread Martin Dobias
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:

 Actually the point displacement renderer already does clustering,
 though it lacks more options to customize how the clustered symbol
 would look like.


 Doesnt it do the reverse? i.e. when more than one point falls in the same
 place, it shifts them aside so they are all visible. If it can be made to
 produce a scaled symbol based on the number of underlying points that would
 be cool.That would also be a good time to change its name to 'Custer or
 displace' or something.

I think that was what the renderer did originally, but nowadays it
also groups points within configured distance. Unfortunately it always
tries to draw a circle around the clustered point with original
symbols. If we introduced few rendering options, it would be more
useful:
- draw just the clustered symbol for the whole group
- scale the clustered symbol depending on the number of points inside

Cheers
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reminder: Freeze starts on 2014-01-24 (4 days)

2014-01-22 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
On Wed, 22. Jan 2014 at 11:42:38 +0100, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
 On 22. 01. 14 11:37, Radim Blazek wrote:
 Cannot it be done in a different way, maybe even more explicitly, for
 example a bottom bar on splash screen telling place/institution.

 Even though I would keep the names, we'll have troubles anyway: 2 HF a  
 yeat with 3 releases, we won't be able to thank all the places...

Huh?   2 HF and 3 releases will help us catch up.  Even more: we're not doing
Linuxhotel releases and Vienna twice.

But I would also be fine if we'd just give it a monotonically increasing
version number (like firefox for instance) and be done with it and drop the
nameing hassle.


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Re: [Qgis-developer] On the fly simplication of point layers

2014-01-22 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
 
  Actually the point displacement renderer already does clustering,
  though it lacks more options to customize how the clustered symbol
  would look like.
 
 
  Doesnt it do the reverse? i.e. when more than one point falls in the same
  place, it shifts them aside so they are all visible. If it can be made to
  produce a scaled symbol based on the number of underlying points that
 would
  be cool.That would also be a good time to change its name to 'Custer or
  displace' or something.

 I think that was what the renderer did originally, but nowadays it
 also groups points within configured distance. Unfortunately it always
 tries to draw a circle around the clustered point with original
 symbols. If we introduced few rendering options, it would be more
 useful:
 - draw just the clustered symbol for the whole group
 - scale the clustered symbol depending on the number of points inside


Yeah that should do it!

Regards

Tim


 Cheers
 Martin




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Re: [Qgis-developer] Reminder: Freeze starts on 2014-01-24 (4 days)

2014-01-22 Thread Denis Rouzaud


On 22. 01. 14 12:25, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

On Wed, 22. Jan 2014 at 11:42:38 +0100, Denis Rouzaud wrote:

On 22. 01. 14 11:37, Radim Blazek wrote:

Cannot it be done in a different way, maybe even more explicitly, for
example a bottom bar on splash screen telling place/institution.

Even though I would keep the names, we'll have troubles anyway: 2 HF a
yeat with 3 releases, we won't be able to thank all the places...

Huh?   2 HF and 3 releases will help us catch up.  Even more: we're not doing
Linuxhotel releases and Vienna twice.

oopsss, yes.
I mixed up because we have a delay right now (Latvia being not the latest).

Shall I fill a bug for the operators in my brain?


But I would also be fine if we'd just give it a monotonically increasing
version number (like firefox for instance) and be done with it and drop the
nameing hassle.


Jürgen



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Re: [Qgis-developer] [QGIS-UX] option to disable font vectorization in labels

2014-01-22 Thread Denis Rouzaud


On 22. 01. 14 11:27, Vincent Picavet wrote:

Hello,

Le mardi 21 janvier 2014 21:45:16, Nyall Dawson a écrit :

On 22/01/2014 4:56 am, Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at wrote:

Am 21.01.2014, 10:24 Uhr, schrieb Vincent Mora vincent.m...@oslandia.com


- a composer option: you make the choice when you export to svg, in this

case you don't see the result until you open the svg

Thanks for addressing this issue!
For me, the most obvious place to put this option would be in the print

composer. Maybe close to the print as raster option?

I'm not a huge fan of this option, given that I'd like to keep the composer
window as clear of clutter as possible. I think output format specific
options like these (and saving svg to layers) should be put into a separate
dialog which appears after the save file dialog. Much like how
gimp/Photoshop/illustrator etc show a jpg quality dialog after choosing to
save a file as jpg. The settings could either be remembered globally or per
output filename.

-1 for another dialog window. It makes the user have to set another step to
export before having a result. If you want to export the same composition work
multiple times with different file names you would have to set this every time.
If you want QGIS to remember the settings, the user should have set it
somewhere specifically. UX simplification is good, magic things happening behind
the scene are not.
Generally im am more in favor of a configure first, then execute way of
working than the opposite.
An intermediate solution could be to have an extended save as dialog box,
with some options on the side.

+1 for having a cleaner UI.
I think it does make sense to separate specific settings in specific 
dialogs. And, QGIS can remember the settings from one time to another 
(or am I missing something here?), no need to add a definition somewhere.


Then, I don't mind to have either a specific dialog for SVG export or 
the dialog to be shown after save as.
I think people are used to configuration dialogs being shown after 
choosing a format.





My ultimate goal (I was going to run this by the ux list) is to move
infrequently used settings like resolution, page size/orientation, print as
raster, etc and the atlas settings to their own composition properties
dialog and then remove the need for the composition and atlas panels. Any
thoughts on this?

Same, more dialog boxes is a -1 for me, panels are quick and convenient, and
give a fast overview of things.
An option to hide or reduce them on the side would be preferable imho.

Again, I would also vote in favor of a specific dialog.
It's the same on the mainwindow, we don't have a single dock with all 
the settings at once.
I think it's more confusing (and finally less efficient) to have all the 
settings mixed on the composer dock.


Cheers,

Denis


Only my personal opinion for what it's worth.


Vincent
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[Qgis-developer] Status of the multi-threaded rendering project

2014-01-22 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi everyone

As the feature freeze is approaching, I guess this is the right time
for an update about the progress of multi-threded rendering.

Since the last status update in December I have continued with the
implementation, adding support for more data providers, fixing bugs
and re-enabling features I disabled during the implementation [1]. The
code is in a state where it is quite ready for the merge to master and
I am satisfied with the outcome so far. Still, I believe it will be
better not to rush into the merge now for 2.2 and then run into
problems close to the release (or after!). Don't get me wrong - it
works well for me and for the other few brave souls who helped with
testing - but given the amount of changes it is likely that some
problems will appear sooner or later... git diff statistics say: 315
files changed, 13808 insertions(+), 9321 deletions(-).

So, I suggest that we merge the threading branch as soon as the
feature freeze will be lifted again, so we will have plenty of time
until 2.4 release (4 months) for fixing problems that may appear.

To get an idea of what is still missing, here's is my brief to-do list:
- merge from master and resolve any conflicts (mainly geometry simplification)
- update data providers (so that they work again):
  - mssql (Nathan has kindly volunteered to get it done)
  - sqlanywhere (needs to be done by folks who contributed it)
- (nice to have) - ability to cancel raster block requests. Otherwise,
rendering of raster layers may make the GUI unresponsive until they
finish. GDAL currently does not support that either, so this may need
also contributing to GDAL, otherwise only native raster providers
(wms, wcs, grass) would benefit from that

I would appreciate your observations from the testing!

Regards
Martin

[1] https://github.com/wonder-sk/QGIS/commits/threading-revival
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Status of the multi-threaded rendering project

2014-01-22 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Martin,

Thanks for the update. I am trying the threaded version from time to
time. Not yet for editing, but for using it as a viewer. I should invest
more time into trying it with editing features. I primarily tested
SpatiaLite and Postgis, with occasionally some rasters/WMS.

I agree that it would probably be best to integrate it into master after
2.2 - given the amount of changes and not enough testing yet.

Thanks,
Andreas

Am 22.01.2014 17:10, schrieb Martin Dobias:
 Hi everyone
 
 As the feature freeze is approaching, I guess this is the right time
 for an update about the progress of multi-threded rendering.
 
 Since the last status update in December I have continued with the
 implementation, adding support for more data providers, fixing bugs
 and re-enabling features I disabled during the implementation [1]. The
 code is in a state where it is quite ready for the merge to master and
 I am satisfied with the outcome so far. Still, I believe it will be
 better not to rush into the merge now for 2.2 and then run into
 problems close to the release (or after!). Don't get me wrong - it
 works well for me and for the other few brave souls who helped with
 testing - but given the amount of changes it is likely that some
 problems will appear sooner or later... git diff statistics say: 315
 files changed, 13808 insertions(+), 9321 deletions(-).
 
 So, I suggest that we merge the threading branch as soon as the
 feature freeze will be lifted again, so we will have plenty of time
 until 2.4 release (4 months) for fixing problems that may appear.
 
 To get an idea of what is still missing, here's is my brief to-do list:
 - merge from master and resolve any conflicts (mainly geometry simplification)
 - update data providers (so that they work again):
   - mssql (Nathan has kindly volunteered to get it done)
   - sqlanywhere (needs to be done by folks who contributed it)
 - (nice to have) - ability to cancel raster block requests. Otherwise,
 rendering of raster layers may make the GUI unresponsive until they
 finish. GDAL currently does not support that either, so this may need
 also contributing to GDAL, otherwise only native raster providers
 (wms, wcs, grass) would benefit from that
 
 I would appreciate your observations from the testing!
 
 Regards
 Martin
 
 [1] https://github.com/wonder-sk/QGIS/commits/threading-revival
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Clustering algorithms from RISE

2014-01-22 Thread Sergio Botero
Hi Martin,

Thank you for your response, I will look into it and start with the Python
plugin.

Thanks again,

Regards
Sergio

On Jan 22, 2014 4:29 AM, Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sergio

 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Sergio Botero sergio...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
  As one of the relatively new developers of Clusterpy, I have been
looking
  into the possibility of
  making Clusterpy (a modified version) part of the Processing code.
 
  First I would like to know, do you think that this kind of algorithms
area a
  good fit for the QGIS
  core?
  I also would like to know, what would be your proposed process to make
this
  happen? anyone
  I should contact directly?

 I think the best thing to do for a start would be to create a Python
 plugin for QGIS that will use the Processing framework. Then you could
 upload the plugin to the repository [1], so the potential users will
 be able to seamlessly download and install it.

 If there would be a lot of interest from users to have the clustering
 functionality available in default installation of QGIS, we could
 discuss the inclusion of the code into QGIS codebase.

 Regards
 Martin

 [1] http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/
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[Qgis-developer] Revisiting behavior of composer guides

2014-01-22 Thread Nyall Dawson
Following on from a discussion in March last year
(http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2013-March/025064.html),
I'd like to re-raise the idea of swapping the behavior of composer
guides lines from the current approach (clicking and dragging on the
horizontal ruler to create a vertical guide) to the opposite approach
(clicking and dragging down the horizontal ruler to create a
horizontal guide).

My rationale is:

- The rulers have changed appearance in 2.2, so this is a good time to
change this behavior if we do decide to do so. It's better to address
this now while things already look different to users then in a future
release.

- The alternative behavior is much more standard. A quick test shows
me that Illustrator, Inkscape, Publisher, Scribus, Gimp, Photoshop and
Indesign all use the drag a horizontal ruler to create a horizontal
guide approach. These are all industry-standard applications, and ones
which many cartographers/GIS users would be familiar with.

What's everyone's thoughts regarding this?

Nyall
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Revisiting behavior of composer guides

2014-01-22 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi,

For me it would be a +1 to change to the common behavior of graphics and
DTP software. This is what I already stated in the discussion back then.

I understand that you, Nyall, are trying to make QGIS behave more like
conventions used in Graphics/DTP software (e.g. shortcuts, selection,
navigation, etc.) - so this should be part of the effort I think.

Thanks for dealing with this,
Andreas

Am 23.01.2014 02:30, schrieb Nyall Dawson:
 Following on from a discussion in March last year
 (http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2013-March/025064.html),
 I'd like to re-raise the idea of swapping the behavior of composer
 guides lines from the current approach (clicking and dragging on the
 horizontal ruler to create a vertical guide) to the opposite approach
 (clicking and dragging down the horizontal ruler to create a
 horizontal guide).
 
 My rationale is:
 
 - The rulers have changed appearance in 2.2, so this is a good time to
 change this behavior if we do decide to do so. It's better to address
 this now while things already look different to users then in a future
 release.
 
 - The alternative behavior is much more standard. A quick test shows
 me that Illustrator, Inkscape, Publisher, Scribus, Gimp, Photoshop and
 Indesign all use the drag a horizontal ruler to create a horizontal
 guide approach. These are all industry-standard applications, and ones
 which many cartographers/GIS users would be familiar with.
 
 What's everyone's thoughts regarding this?
 
 Nyall
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Visual changelog for QGIS 2.2

2014-01-22 Thread Gino Pirelli
I tim,

just added entry about WMS Legend... I set also disclaiming about founder
of this feature, but I don't know if this is in the entry style... I can
erase it to be uniform with other entries.


On 30 December 2013 05:41, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:

 Hi All

 Over the last couple of weeks, I have started compiling a list of
 interesting new features for the visual changelog for QGIS 2.2. Could I
 invite others to add entries there too. You can either do it directly on
 the changelog site [1] (you need to create yourself a login first) or send
 me an email with the following info:

 * Category of feature
 * Title for new features
 * Feature description in markdown or plain text
 * A screenshot if possible (it is a *visual* changelog)
 * Your full name for the image credits.

 Please take a look at the existing entries to ensure that you are not
 duplicating work.

 @Nyall maybe it would be nice to get another entry for composer
 summarising all the other improvements you have made, I know I haven't done
 the work you have done justice in the list so far.

 [1] http://changelog.linfiniti.com/qgis/version/21/

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