Re: [Qgis-developer] Multiple labeling layers ?

2015-02-12 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi Hugo

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Hugo Mercier hugo.merc...@oslandia.com
wrote:

 Hi all,

 We have a request to refine the way layers can be cached and especially
 regarding the handling of labels.

 The goal is to be able to optimize what is redrawn during the rendering
 when features of only some of the vector layers are moving (a script
 somewhere makes them move), and the other vector layers stay the same
 (same data, same extent)


Sounds good. Do I understand correctly you want to avoid having to register
features on every map rendering?

What exactly would be cached - features / label candidates? for one view /
for the whole map?


I would like to allow labels to be manipulated in a new kind of
 labeling layers, which could be organised as any other layer in the
 legend : on top / above other layers, with blending modes, etc.


Recently there was a ticket filed for that:
http://hub.qgis.org/issues/12131
By reordering do you mean that the labeling could get under some other
layers - i.e. wouldn't be drawn always on top?

Or do you mean that a labeling layer would actually _draw_ extra labeling
instead of _providing_ features? This could be indeed an interesting piece
of functionality.

Cheers
Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] still problem with SAGA in QGIS Master

2015-02-12 Thread Victor Olaya
Can you provide more details (OS, etc). Any information in the Processing log?

2015-02-12 11:03 GMT+01:00 Matteo Ghetta matteo.ghe...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,
 I'm running QGIS dev (fresh compiled) and I have SAGA 2.1.2 installed in my
 computer (both are working).
 The problem is that Processing doesn't see SAGA: in the Processing option
 dialog the checkbox for SAGA is activated but I cannot run any of its
 algorithms.

 Am I missing something?

 Thanks!

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Re: [Qgis-developer] RAS plugins

2015-02-12 Thread Radosław Pasiok
2015-02-12 10:28 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it:

 Hi Pete,

 Il 12/02/2015 08:35, Peter Wells ha scritto:

  o   Ensure we are all using sensible descriptive ‘tags’ to allow
  grouping at the search stage


I think following crayfish tags:
 - hydraulics
 - hydraulic modelling
 - flood
are universal and I will happily adopt them to have a proper grouping.
Maybe we could consider: 'flow', 'river' and 'channel 'as another tags
common to our plugins?



  o   Consider adding our plugins to a ‘Hydraulics’ menu in QGIS to allow
  menu-grouping

 agreed fully. proper tagging and grouping is something we miss a lot for
 most plugins, so hydraulics could just be the first in a row.
 why not moving this discussion to qgis-dev?
 all the best, and thanks for your thoughts.

 Having a Hydraulics plugins group would be great.

Best regards,

Radek
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-psc] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-12 Thread Trevor Wiens
Thanks for the link. I would have liked to be involved but couldn't be
there today.

I know this was discussed briefly before but I'm still unsure of the
answer. Is the main push to test tool competency or is underlying knowledge
of spatial problems and processes part of the purpose?  I have materials
from my GIS intro course I teach for the University of Calgary that is more
focused on understanding that uses QGIS. I am willing to share these but
the how to sections are older and would need to be updated (I teach this
course every 18 months).

I realize that this will be QGIS focused and to provide something similar
to commercial certification the focus needs to mostly focus on tool
specific competency. I would however suggest that having a solid coverage
of basic GIS knowledge would be a step up over commercial certification
programs where it is not uncommon to see people with credentials on paper
who understand very little.

If someone can fill me in where we are at that level of specifics I would
appreciate it.

TSW
On Feb 12, 2015 10:14 AM, Robert Szczepanek rob...@szczepanek.pl wrote:

 Log from IRC meeting is available at:
 http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification

 regards,
 Robert

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 Hi All

 We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
 certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
 #qgis-certification.

 If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
 along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
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[Qgis-developer] still problem with SAGA in QGIS Master

2015-02-12 Thread Matteo Ghetta
Hi all,
I'm running QGIS dev (fresh compiled) and I have SAGA 2.1.2 installed in my
computer (both are working).
The problem is that Processing doesn't see SAGA: in the Processing option
dialog the checkbox for SAGA is activated but I cannot run any of its
algorithms.

Am I missing something?

Thanks!

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Re: [Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/02/2015 13:03, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:

 Another thing nice to know would be if those issues would go away if we move
 redmine to our server (but we might not be able to see the issues in a test
 setup without doing a full switch).
 
 But I haven't worked with github tracking either.  My guess is that redmine is
 more sophisticated.  Keeping it in our hand is/could looks like a plus to me -
 and also would avoid migration.

I may add, on the other hand, that search in Redmine is currently rather
ugly.
BTW, do we really need all these sophisticated features?
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS LTR and documentation (LTR ?)

2015-02-12 Thread Yves Jacolin
Denis, Jürgen,

On Thursday, February 12, 2015 14:09:59 Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
 Hi Denis,
 
 On Thu, 12. Feb 2015 at 14:04:31 +0100, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
  IIRC for the documentation, I think that the idea rose that LTR would be
  the only ones documented.
 
 Not sure.  I guess that documentation is done for released stuff anyway, so
 there's no need to update the documentation while development is still going
 on.
Agreed, documentation should be updated with each release of QGIS. This way we 
can add documentation for new feature for each new release but have a greater 
look to the next LTR to get the best documentation.

  For translations, it would make sense to keep the application translatable
  during its whole life cycle, but I can't say.
 
 I think what we discussed was that transifex is used for master and the
 release branches are maintained like they used to be before transifex (ie.
 using linguist).
Sounds good to me.

Y.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 12/02/2015 13:15, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:
 Hi Paolo,
 
 On Thu, 12. Feb 2015 at 13:08:48 +, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
 I may add, on the other hand, that search in Redmine is currently rather
 ugly.
 
 Um, not to me.   But I guess ugly isn't a good description.  How is github's
 search better?  

If I do an unstructured text query in the Seach texbox on top right, I
cannot exclude closed tickets, etc., so I usually get many irrelevant
results; I believe this is an important cause for the many duplications
that plague us. I know this is the feeling of many users.

 BTW, do we really need all these sophisticated features?
 
 What would we loose?

personally probably nothing, that's why I'm asking.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Denis Rouzaud

I agree that Github is easier and faster to use than our current Redmine.
I find the approach in Redmine over-engineered.
Searching/filtering is indeed the worst.

What feature in Redmine would we loose (which could not be replaced by 
tags) in Github?



On 12.02.2015 14:08, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Il 12/02/2015 13:03, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:


Another thing nice to know would be if those issues would go away if we move
redmine to our server (but we might not be able to see the issues in a test
setup without doing a full switch).

But I haven't worked with github tracking either.  My guess is that redmine is
more sophisticated.  Keeping it in our hand is/could looks like a plus to me -
and also would avoid migration.

I may add, on the other hand, that search in Redmine is currently rather
ugly.
BTW, do we really need all these sophisticated features?
All the best.


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Multiple labeling layers ?

2015-02-12 Thread Hugo Mercier
Hi Martin,

Thanks for your feedback.

Le 12/02/2015 13:00, Martin Dobias a écrit :
 Hi Hugo
 
 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Hugo Mercier hugo.merc...@oslandia.com
 mailto:hugo.merc...@oslandia.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 We have a request to refine the way layers can be cached and especially
 regarding the handling of labels.
 
 The goal is to be able to optimize what is redrawn during the rendering
 when features of only some of the vector layers are moving (a script
 somewhere makes them move), and the other vector layers stay the same
 (same data, same extent)
 
 
 Sounds good. Do I understand correctly you want to avoid having to
 register features on every map rendering?
 
 What exactly would be cached - features / label candidates? for one view
 / for the whole map?

If I am correct, during labeling the most demanding task is the global
optimization to compute label positions. So these label positions could
be cached for one set of labels (in a labeling layer), provided the
underlying vector layers are also cached.

 
 
 I would like to allow labels to be manipulated in a new kind of
 labeling layers, which could be organised as any other layer in the
 legend : on top / above other layers, with blending modes, etc.
 
 
 Recently there was a ticket filed for that:
 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/12131
 By reordering do you mean that the labeling could get under some other
 layers - i.e. wouldn't be drawn always on top?

Yes the idea would be to separate the vector layers that provide
features and layers that actually draw labels. So yes, labels that could
be drawn not always on top. Or labels from a set of layers drawn
independently from labels of some other set of labels (with possible
overlaps in this case).

 
 Or do you mean that a labeling layer would actually _draw_ extra
 labeling instead of _providing_ features? This could be indeed an
 interesting piece of functionality.

Exactly. Each labelling layer would refer to a set of vector layers
which provide features. The PAL optimization would be run on each
labeling layer and labels rendered in their own layer.

I am also investigating another optimization idea: the good old global
labeling on top of every other layers, but with a way to partially
solve the placement problem. Could it be possible to inject precomputed
label positions in PAL ? So that a part of the label positions would be
already known from a previous frame and some other labels would have to
be recomputed ? The 'obstacle' feature of PAL is interesting, but
probably not strong enough to really avoid overlapping ...

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-psc] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-12 Thread Robert Szczepanek

Hi,

Is this channel public?
Can't find it ...

regards,
Robert

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Hi All

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#qgis-certification.

If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
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Regards

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Multiple labeling layers ?

2015-02-12 Thread Martin Dobias
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Hugo Mercier hugo.merc...@oslandia.com
wrote:

 
 
  Sounds good. Do I understand correctly you want to avoid having to
  register features on every map rendering?
 
  What exactly would be cached - features / label candidates? for one view
  / for the whole map?

 If I am correct, during labeling the most demanding task is the global
 optimization to compute label positions. So these label positions could
 be cached for one set of labels (in a labeling layer), provided the
 underlying vector layers are also cached.


Actually not - the global optimization is quite fast (after all that was
the intent of the PAL library), usually it is extraction of label
candidates and calculation of their costs (for polygons) that make up most
of the time.

In some cases finding of the solution can still be a bottleneck - e.g.
zoomed out map with huge amount of overlapping labels.

I have done measuring of the labeling performance quite a long time ago, so
it may be a good idea to check again where the speed issues are. Various
placement options have their own issues.



 I am also investigating another optimization idea: the good old global
 labeling on top of every other layers, but with a way to partially
 solve the placement problem. Could it be possible to inject precomputed
 label positions in PAL ?


Yes, this is already being done with data-defined positions of labels.


 So that a part of the label positions would be
 already known from a previous frame and some other labels would have to
 be recomputed ?


It is hard to guess what would help the most. Probably the best would be to
first measure the times of few scenarios and decide what/where/how to cache
based on the hard data.

Cheers
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-psc] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-12 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi

Yes it is public - if you come to the #qgis channel I will invite you

Regards

Tim

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Robert Szczepanek rob...@szczepanek.pl
wrote:

 Hi,

 Is this channel public?
 Can't find it ...

 regards,
 Robert

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS LTR and documentation (LTR ?)

2015-02-12 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Denis,

On Thu, 12. Feb 2015 at 14:04:31 +0100, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
 IIRC for the documentation, I think that the idea rose that LTR would be the
 only ones documented.

Not sure.  I guess that documentation is done for released stuff anyway, so
there's no need to update the documentation while development is still going
on.

 For translations, it would make sense to keep the application translatable
 during its whole life cycle, but I can't say.

I think what we discussed was that transifex is used for master and the release
branches are maintained like they used to be before transifex (ie. using
linguist).


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Re: [Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Paolo,

On Thu, 12. Feb 2015 at 13:08:48 +, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
 I may add, on the other hand, that search in Redmine is currently rather
 ugly.

Um, not to me.   But I guess ugly isn't a good description.  How is github's
search better?  

 BTW, do we really need all these sophisticated features?

What would we loose?


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Re: [Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Attachments is really all you would loose, but that isn't a big thing.  You
can also just setup sub-tags for different things, eg. platform\windows,
platform\osx, etc.

Personally I think it would be a good move.

- Nathan

On Thu Feb 12 2015 at 11:24:05 PM Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it
wrote:

 Il 12/02/2015 13:15, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:
  Hi Paolo,
 
  On Thu, 12. Feb 2015 at 13:08:48 +, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
  I may add, on the other hand, that search in Redmine is currently rather
  ugly.
 
  Um, not to me.   But I guess ugly isn't a good description.  How is
 github's
  search better?

 If I do an unstructured text query in the Seach texbox on top right, I
 cannot exclude closed tickets, etc., so I usually get many irrelevant
 results; I believe this is an important cause for the many duplications
 that plague us. I know this is the feeling of many users.

  BTW, do we really need all these sophisticated features?
 
  What would we loose?

 personally probably nothing, that's why I'm asking.

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[Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi

It seems to me that recently our Redmine instance on hub.qgis.org has often
issues - the page load time can be quite long or the response is just:

 This website is under heavy load

 We're sorry, too many people are accessing this website at the same time.
We're working on this problem. Please try again later.

It is displeasing to see such response after sending a longer reply to an
issue.

Does anyone know how to fix that? Is the server really under too much load
or is it just a matter of improving to configuration?


I am starting to be more and more keen on switching to a more stable issue
tracking system - e.g. the one on GitHub where we already keep the main
repository. Compared to Redmine I think there would be just few issues with
it:
- different logins
- support for attachments
- migration
With logins I don't think there is an issue (github is nowadays widely
used). With attachments Redmine supports only small attachments anyway, so
we could just recommend an external service for extra data. Finally, the
migration could bring some headache - numbering of issues would get wrong...

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS LTR and documentation (LTR ?)

2015-02-12 Thread Denis Rouzaud
IIRC for the documentation, I think that the idea rose that LTR would be 
the only ones documented.


For translations, it would make sense to keep the application 
translatable during its whole life cycle, but I can't say.


On 12.02.2015 09:14, Yves Jacolin wrote:

Hello,

QGIS 2.8 should be the first LTR. For this release, fix would be backported for
one year.

What about the documentation? Can we think a similar support to have the time
to translate it and correct typo?

Could this managed in transifex or is just too complex to managed 2 releases
in the same time?

Thanks,

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[Qgis-developer] LAStools with processing

2015-02-12 Thread Ivan sarteguas
Hi
I'm using QGIS 2.4 Chugiak and windows 7
I'm working wiht LAStools, but I can't to call LAStools functions with comand 
processing.runalg. When I try, I can see the next error: Algorithm not found.
The code I use is:
  

I reviewed thousand times paht and PYTHONPATH but can not find the error. 
Someone has this happened? And he knows how to fix it or an alternative to 
using processing?
PATH=C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PyQt4;C:\Program Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\bin;C:\Program Files\QGIS Chugiak\apps\qgis\bin;C:\Program Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\apps\msys\bin;C:\Program Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\apps\Python27\Scripts;C:\Program Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\apps\qgis\python\plugins;C:\Program Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\apps\qgis\python\plugins\processing\core;C:\Program Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\apps\qgis\python\plugins\processing\lidar\lasground.py;C:\Users\itmati\.qgis2\processing;C:\Program
 Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\apps\qgis\python\plugins\processing\algs\lidar\lastools;C:\LAStools\bin
PYTHONPATH=C:\Program Files\QGIS Chugiak\apps\qgis\python;C:\Program Files\QGIS 
Chugiak\apps\qgis\python\plugins\processing\algs\lidar\lastools
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[Qgis-developer] QGIS LTR and documentation (LTR ?)

2015-02-12 Thread Yves Jacolin
Hello,

QGIS 2.8 should be the first LTR. For this release, fix would be backported for 
one year. 

What about the documentation? Can we think a similar support to have the time 
to translate it and correct typo? 

Could this managed in transifex or is just too complex to managed 2 releases 
in the same time?

Thanks,

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[Qgis-developer] refresh postgis layer

2015-02-12 Thread Rémi Cura
Hello dear list,

in  the process of developing a plugin (python 2.7, QGIS 2.6),

from pyqgis ,
we would like to refresh a Postgis layer.
When using the vectorLayer.refresh(), it does nothing.

We used a trick that works but seems like a bad idea :
(we slightly change the zoom to force rendering)
DEFAULT_SEGMENT_EPSILON = 1E-8
mapCanvas().zoomByFactor(1.0 + DEFAULT_SEGMENT_EPSILON, mapRect.center())

Somebody knows how to do it properly?
Thanks,
Rémi-C
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-psc] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-12 Thread Jonathan Moules
You can get to it via:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#qgis-certification



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Hi,

Is this channel public?
Can't find it ...

regards,
Robert

W dniu 06.02.2015 o 16:34, Tim Sutton pisze:
 Hi All

 We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
 certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
 #qgis-certification.

 If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please
 come along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion
 in the meeting!

 Regards

 Tim

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Multiple labeling layers ?

2015-02-12 Thread Hugo Mercier


Le 12/02/2015 15:19, Martin Dobias a écrit :
 
 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Hugo Mercier hugo.merc...@oslandia.com
 mailto:hugo.merc...@oslandia.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Sounds good. Do I understand correctly you want to avoid having to
  register features on every map rendering?
 
  What exactly would be cached - features / label candidates? for one view
  / for the whole map?
 
 If I am correct, during labeling the most demanding task is the global
 optimization to compute label positions. So these label positions could
 be cached for one set of labels (in a labeling layer), provided the
 underlying vector layers are also cached.
 
 
 Actually not - the global optimization is quite fast (after all that was
 the intent of the PAL library), usually it is extraction of label
 candidates and calculation of their costs (for polygons) that make up
 most of the time.

I see. I thought this part was also done by PAL. I understand that
computing position of candidate bounding boxes (evaluating expressions,
include font metrics, centroids, etc.) may be the hardest part.

 
 In some cases finding of the solution can still be a bottleneck - e.g.
 zoomed out map with huge amount of overlapping labels.
 
 I have done measuring of the labeling performance quite a long time ago,
 so it may be a good idea to check again where the speed issues are.
 Various placement options have their own issues.

Yes. So caching results from registering and PAL may be a good option.

 
  
 
 I am also investigating another optimization idea: the good old global
 labeling on top of every other layers, but with a way to partially
 solve the placement problem. Could it be possible to inject precomputed
 label positions in PAL ?
 
 
 Yes, this is already being done with data-defined positions of labels.

Ah good to know.
I guess it is the fixedPos and fixedAngle parameters of
pal::Layer::registerFeature ?

  
 
 So that a part of the label positions would be
 already known from a previous frame and some other labels would have to
 be recomputed ?
 
 
 It is hard to guess what would help the most. Probably the best would be
 to first measure the times of few scenarios and decide what/where/how to
 cache based on the hard data.

Sure.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] commit change in geometry produce fatal error

2015-02-12 Thread Martin Dobias
Hi again Remi

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Rémi Cura remi.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello again dear list,

 Our goal is to save (commitchanges) any modification of a vector layer
 when it happens.


 We encountered another problem when trying to exploit the
 layer.geometryChanged event.

 Upon activation of this event, we tried to use the layer.commitChanges()
 to save changes in geometry of the layer (postgis layer, maybe not
 related),

 But it hard-crashes QGIS.
 A quick gdb look seems to indicate a rollback issue??


It is not a good idea to try to commit changes in a slot connected to a
signal about layer modification - crashes due to corrupted undo stack can
be expected (the undo stack is not in final state yet at the time of the
signal being emitted). Also often the changes are done in batches (e.g.
field calculator) and if you committed changes after each single change,
this may lead to poor performance due to separate transactions.

I think for your use case you could watch changes to the undo stack and
commit whenever you detect a new undo command is added (e.g.
canUndoChanged() or indexChanged() signal) you could commit the changes.

Regards
Martin
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Re: [Qgis-developer] commit change in geometry produce fatal error

2015-02-12 Thread Rémi Cura
Thanks a lot for those fast and accurate suggestions.

We try to do as you propose and post the result here!

Many thanks,
Rémi-C

2015-02-12 18:07 GMT+01:00 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com:

 Hi again Remi

 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Rémi Cura remi.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello again dear list,

 Our goal is to save (commitchanges) any modification of a vector layer
 when it happens.


 We encountered another problem when trying to exploit the
 layer.geometryChanged event.

 Upon activation of this event, we tried to use the layer.commitChanges()
 to save changes in geometry of the layer (postgis layer, maybe not
 related),

 But it hard-crashes QGIS.
 A quick gdb look seems to indicate a rollback issue??


 It is not a good idea to try to commit changes in a slot connected to a
 signal about layer modification - crashes due to corrupted undo stack can
 be expected (the undo stack is not in final state yet at the time of the
 signal being emitted). Also often the changes are done in batches (e.g.
 field calculator) and if you committed changes after each single change,
 this may lead to poor performance due to separate transactions.

 I think for your use case you could watch changes to the undo stack and
 commit whenever you detect a new undo command is added (e.g.
 canUndoChanged() or indexChanged() signal) you could commit the changes.

 Regards
 Martin


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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-psc] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-12 Thread Robert Szczepanek

Log from IRC meeting is available at:
http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification

regards,
Robert

W dniu 06.02.2015 o 16:34, Tim Sutton pisze:

Hi All

We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
#qgis-certification.

If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
meeting!

Regards

Tim

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Re: [Qgis-developer] refresh postgis layer

2015-02-12 Thread Rémi Cura
Hey Martin,
thanks for the answer (again !)

Apparently it still doesn't refresh anything.
When I do it manually I use the Refresh button, and this works.
(The zoom trick also works)

Could it be because the layer needing refresh are not only the active layer
but all the others?

Cheers,
Rémi-C

2015-02-12 17:42 GMT+01:00 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com:

 Hi Remi

 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Rémi Cura remi.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello dear list,

 in  the process of developing a plugin (python 2.7, QGIS 2.6),

 from pyqgis ,
 we would like to refresh a Postgis layer.
 When using the vectorLayer.refresh(), it does nothing.


 Try vectorLayer.triggerRepaint()

 Calling refresh() of the canvas will not work because even though the
 canvas will get refreshed, it will use previously cached map images. With
 triggerRepaint() the cached map image of your layer will get cleared and
 also refresh() will be called for any canvas that displays such layer.

 Regards
 Martin


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Re: [Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 12-02-15 14:42, Nathan Woodrow wrote:
 Attachments is really all you would loose, but that isn't a big thing. 
 You can also just setup sub-tags for different things, eg.
 platform\windows, platform\osx, etc.
 
 Personally I think it would be a good move.

We more or less agreed on doing some research on it:

-1- Tim already asked if someone could try to find a way/script to move
current issues to a dummy repo to try out.

-2- We have to think about an easy upload service though: data attached
to a issue should stay on that service long enough for an long
outstanding issue
Maybe a simple Django upload app?

So anybody available to dive into this?
And come up with some results?

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

ps as said by Juergen: maybe it's just the fault disk that is playing us
up...

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[Qgis-developer] commit change in geometry produce fatal error

2015-02-12 Thread Rémi Cura
Hello again dear list,

Our goal is to save (commitchanges) any modification of a vector layer when
it happens.


We encountered another problem when trying to exploit the
layer.geometryChanged event.

Upon activation of this event, we tried to use the layer.commitChanges() to
save changes in geometry of the layer (postgis layer, maybe not related),

But it hard-crashes QGIS.
A quick gdb look seems to indicate a rollback issue??

The workaround we found was to use thread with short timers, but is is ill
suited for this.

Python 2.7, QGIS 2.6, Linux 64.

Somebody know how to fix this issue ?

Many thanks,
Rémi-C
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Re: [Qgis-developer] hub.qgis under heavy load?

2015-02-12 Thread Alex Mandel
Tags are an oversimplification, as you have to use them for area or
subareas topic as well as severity and status.

Can you search Github's issues for tags on topic rendering, of severity
blocker, against milestone 2.8, that are open?

There's an API right? Maybe we build a custom search tool to github issues?


No idea if Redmine is the issue, I have never run a Redmine with this
much load. It was running well last year after a Ruby upgrade but not
sure if anyone has upgraded Redmine itself.


As for the hardware story, OSGeo is now looking at buying a new machine
to replace the one QGIS Hub is currently on. QGIS' input on this buy
would be useful, and we could even beef it up if QGIS wants to help out
financially. The likely setup will be software raid5 and docker,
learning from previous issues.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Transition_Plan_2014#Hardware

Also there's discussion of implementing GitLab on the new hardware,
which is very similar to Github but would allow OSGeo Logins and Github
logins.

PS: there are a couple of pure Django Issue trackers out there. No VCS
integrated but that doesn't matter if the code is on Github.

Thanks,
Alex

On 02/12/2015 05:23 AM, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
 I agree that Github is easier and faster to use than our current Redmine.
 I find the approach in Redmine over-engineered.
 Searching/filtering is indeed the worst.
 
 What feature in Redmine would we loose (which could not be replaced by
 tags) in Github?
 
 
 On 12.02.2015 14:08, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
 Il 12/02/2015 13:03, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:

 Another thing nice to know would be if those issues would go away if
 we move
 redmine to our server (but we might not be able to see the issues in
 a test
 setup without doing a full switch).

 But I haven't worked with github tracking either.  My guess is that
 redmine is
 more sophisticated.  Keeping it in our hand is/could looks like a
 plus to me -
 and also would avoid migration.
 I may add, on the other hand, that search in Redmine is currently rather
 ugly.
 BTW, do we really need all these sophisticated features?
 All the best.


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