Re: [QGIS-Developer] macOS installs -- Lutra

[Jonas]

you can also install qgis from the osgeo homebrew repositories which uses
homebrews python

brew tap osgeo/osgeo4mac
brew install osgeo-qgis

be aware that the installation takes a long time (> 2 hours on my laptop) to
install and uses plenty of packages



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Nyall Dawson]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 20:57, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:26:21AM +0200, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:13 AM Nyall Dawson  wrote:
> > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 18:11, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:48:59AM +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Except learning curve will need to be taken once again...
> > >
> > > And the many 10's of 1000s of $$ it will cost to migrate all the CI
> > > and integration scripts. The values of those should never be
> > > understated.
> >
> > IMO now that's dockerized it should not be that hard to move to another CI
> > infrastructure (not that I'm proposing that now).
>
> For the record, https://dronie.osgeo.org (login with OSGeo credentials)
> is already docker-based, and is currently used by both GEOS and PostGIS.
> See https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/commits/branch/svn-trunk
> and https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/geos/geos/commits/branch/master for
> examples (those green-or-red tiny icons near each commit).
>
> NOTE that an externally hosted instance of Drone (the open source software
> used for https://dronie.osgeo.org) can be pointed to github.com for
> getting used to it. See examples of that here:
> https://github.com/postgis/postgis/pull/403
> In the case above, the _same_ CI configuration is read by both the
> OSGeo hosted instance (building PRs opened on https://git.osgeo.org)
> _and_ by the externally hosted instance (building PRs opened on github)

Careful Sandro, that almost sounds like you're volunteering to do this now! ;)

Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Cory,

On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 11:03:26 -0400, Cory Albrecht wrote:
> Except I got the package from QGIS's *own* repo, as I indicated. If QGIS is
> going to be alerting me that there is a new version, shouldn't that new
> version be available in the QGIS repo?

Depends.  If you're using a distribution that doesn't have the necessary
dependencies for the newer version, the newer version will never reach the repo
for that distribution.

But you'll still get the notification about the latest version and in this case
it just means that you not only have to upgrade QGIS to get it. 


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] macOS installs -- Lutra

[DelazJ]

Hi Anthony,
it doesn't seem to be available from direct download on qgis.org but,
please see https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/ (hoping that someone will
summarize the info and link at a more discoverable place)

regards,
Harrissou

Le mer. 5 juin 2019 à 20:48, Anthony DeBarros  a
écrit :

> Hi, folks,
>
> I notice that the excellent installer for macOS from Lutra now says
> "deprecated" on its page.
> https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/
>
> I liked using that installer as it didn't require me to install Python 3.6
> from Python.org, which has proven to conflict with my Python 3 homebrew
> setup.
>
> I remember hearing that there might be some updates to QGIS macOS
> packaging. Can someone share the latest info?
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony DeBarros
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[QGIS-Developer] macOS installs -- Lutra

[Anthony DeBarros]

Hi, folks,

I notice that the excellent installer for macOS from Lutra now says
"deprecated" on its page.
https://lutraconsulting.github.io/qgis-mac-packager/

I liked using that installer as it didn't require me to install Python 3.6
from Python.org, which has proven to conflict with my Python 3 homebrew
setup.

I remember hearing that there might be some updates to QGIS macOS
packaging. Can someone share the latest info?

Thanks,
Anthony DeBarros
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Using encrypted authentication credentials in QGIS Server

[Tim Sutton]

Thanks so much for all the good info below Larry!

Tim Sutton 
Co-founder of Kartoza 
Ex-QGIS project chairman 

> On 5 Jun 2019, at 18:59, Larry Shaffer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:22 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:
>> Hi All
>> 
>> As explained by the subject line, I would like to reply a QGIS 3.x server 
>> based site where the project uses the QGIS authentication framework to store 
>> user names and password for the database connection in an encrypted manner.
> 
> See these env vars for setting up access to an authentication database from 
> within Server:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/server/qgsserver.cpp#L234-L238
> 
> I have not tested this with recent QGIS versions, but maybe someone who has 
> worked with Server and the auth system may have (Alessandro?).
> 
> Most non-interactive auth method plugins should work, e.g. Basic, PKI, etc. 
> The OAuth2 auth plugin will not work if using a grant flow that requires 
> interaction; instead, use Resource Owner (the plugin doesn't support Client 
> Credentials grant flow).
> 
> Of course, this means the qgis-auth.db will need pre-populated using QGIS 
> Desktop prior to use by Server. You will probably want to create a new 
> profile, so that no other credentials are stored in the SQLite qgis-auth.db 
> file, or restart QGIS specifically to work on a specific qgis-auth.db file 
> (using option --authdbdirectory ).
>  
>> I have used the authentication manager before on my desktop, but what do I 
>> need to do to set things up in a server environment?
>> 
>> Also the list of supported services in ’Settings->Authentication->Installed 
>> Plugins’ does not currently include Oracle. Did anyone use  the 
>> authentication manager against an Oracle database before?
> 
> I have investigated adding auth support to Oracle in the past, but did have 
> the chance to implement it. Generally, since it uses a QgsDataSourceURI 
> object for configurations, at least the Basic auth method plugin's update 
> function should be easy to adapt:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blame/master/src/auth/basic/qgsauthbasicmethod.cpp#L87
> 
> This means probably adding a conditional branch based upon oracle provider, 
> similar to what was done for ogr/gdal:
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blame/master/src/auth/basic/qgsauthbasicmethod.cpp#L201-L202
> 
> Then, it is a matter of just integrating the auth updating during Oracle 
> connections (and its pool), and adding the auth widget into the Oracle 
> connection GUI. This would be similar to how Postgres provider was updated to 
> support the auth system.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Larry Shaffer
> Dakota Cartography
> Black Hills, South Dakota
>  
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> —
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Sutton
>> 
>> Co-founder: Kartoza
>> Ex Project chair: QGIS.org
>> 
>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>> 
>> Desktop GIS programming services
>> Geospatial web development
>> GIS Training
>> Consulting Services
>> 
>> Skype: timlinux 
>> IRC: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
>> 
>> I'd love to connect. Here's my calendar link to make finding time easy.
>> 
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Using encrypted authentication credentials in QGIS Server

[Larry Shaffer]

Hi Tim,

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:22 AM Tim Sutton  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> As explained by the subject line, I would like to reply a QGIS 3.x server
> based site where the project uses the QGIS authentication framework to
> store user names and password for the database connection in an encrypted
> manner.
>

See these env vars for setting up access to an authentication database from
within Server:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/src/server/qgsserver.cpp#L234-L238

I have not tested this with recent QGIS versions, but maybe someone who has
worked with Server and the auth system may have (Alessandro?).

Most non-interactive auth method plugins should work, e.g. Basic, PKI, etc.
The OAuth2 auth plugin will not work if using a grant flow that requires
interaction; instead, use Resource Owner (the plugin doesn't support Client
Credentials grant flow).

Of course, this means the qgis-auth.db will need pre-populated using QGIS
Desktop prior to use by Server. You will probably want to create a new
profile, so that no other credentials are stored in the SQLite qgis-auth.db
file, or restart QGIS specifically to work on a specific qgis-auth.db file
(using option --authdbdirectory ).


> I have used the authentication manager before on my desktop, but what do I
> need to do to set things up in a server environment?
>
> Also the list of supported services in
> ’Settings->Authentication->Installed Plugins’ does not currently include
> Oracle. Did anyone use  the authentication manager against an Oracle
> database before?
>

I have investigated adding auth support to Oracle in the past, but did have
the chance to implement it. Generally, since it uses a
QgsDataSourceURI object for configurations, at least the Basic auth method
plugin's update function should be easy to adapt:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blame/master/src/auth/basic/qgsauthbasicmethod.cpp#L87

This means probably adding a conditional branch based upon oracle provider,
similar to what was done for ogr/gdal:
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blame/master/src/auth/basic/qgsauthbasicmethod.cpp#L201-L202

Then, it is a matter of just integrating the auth updating during Oracle
connections (and its pool), and adding the auth widget into the Oracle
connection GUI. This would be similar to how Postgres provider was updated
to support the auth system.

Regards,

Larry Shaffer
Dakota Cartography
Black Hills, South Dakota


> Thanks!
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> —
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tim Sutton*
>
> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>
> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>
> Desktop GIS programming services
> Geospatial web development
> GIS Training
> Consulting Services
>
> *Skype*: timlinux
> *IRC:* timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
>
> I'd love to connect. Here's my calendar link
>  to make finding time easy.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Cory Albrecht]

Except I got the package from QGIS's *own* repo, as I indicated. If QGIS is
going to be alerting me that there is a new version, shouldn't that new
version be available in the QGIS repo?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 12:11 PM Tim Sutton  wrote:

> It takes the version status from QGIS.org not from the repositories. When
> the actual package arrives depends on your package repo etc.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 00:16, Cory Albrecht  wrote:
>
> Why does QGIS alert about newer versions before the version is even
> available in something like the Debian/Ubuntu repos at
> http://qgis.org/ubuntu-nightly-release ?
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> —
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tim Sutton*
>
> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
> *Ex Project chair:* QGIS.org
>
> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>
> Desktop GIS programming services
> Geospatial web development
> GIS Training
> Consulting Services
>
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> *IRC:* timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
>
> I'd love to connect. Here's my calendar link
>  to make finding time easy.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Will the resource sharing plugin be ported to a core plugin? Or or similar functionality implemented?

[Áron Gergely]

Thank you for Alessandro!

I am aware of the plugin being available in QGIS 3 -  I am just 
exploring possibilities.


We are looking to create a plugin that would use external resources
to create map layouts.

Then the current solution is either replicating the functionality of the 
resource sharing plugin or instructing the users to get the resources 
via the resource sharing plugin.


...or finding a way to embed these resources in the project file.

Thanks again,

Best regards,
Aron Gergely


On 05/06/2019 13:57, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:


On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:33 PM Áron Gergely > wrote:


Hi Developers list,

A long time user, budding contributor here. Thanks so much for
building
QGIS to what it is today! :)

Does anyone know whether it is a plan to port the QGIS Resource
Sharing
plugin to a core plugin?


Hi, that was indeed the original plan.

But some developers raised general concerns against including other 
plugins in the core, that's why the idea was abandoned.


The plugin has been ported to  QGIS 3 a few months ago, so it is now 
available.




I have read a mention of this among the issues+comments on the
plugin's
github, see here:

https://github.com/akbargumbira/qgis_resources_sharing/issues/51#issuecomment-344397441

I have asked the developer of the plugin a while ago but received no
response. I thought perhaps someone here knows whether this is (was)
indeed the plan?
Otherwise, would there be a plan to implement its functionality?
And if
so, do you need help doing that?

Best Regards,
Áron Gergely
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Will the resource sharing plugin be ported to a core plugin? Or or similar functionality implemented?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:33 PM Áron Gergely 
wrote:

> Hi Developers list,
>
> A long time user, budding contributor here. Thanks so much for building
> QGIS to what it is today! :)
>
> Does anyone know whether it is a plan to port the QGIS Resource Sharing
> plugin to a core plugin?
>

Hi, that was indeed the original plan.

But some developers raised general concerns against including other plugins
in the core, that's why the idea was abandoned.

The plugin has been ported to  QGIS 3 a few months ago, so it is now
available.




>
> I have read a mention of this among the issues+comments on the plugin's
> github, see here:
>
> https://github.com/akbargumbira/qgis_resources_sharing/issues/51#issuecomment-344397441
>
> I have asked the developer of the plugin a while ago but received no
> response. I thought perhaps someone here knows whether this is (was)
> indeed the plan?
> Otherwise, would there be a plan to implement its functionality? And if
> so, do you need help doing that?
>
> Best Regards,
> Áron Gergely
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Sandro Santilli]

On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:26:21AM +0200, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:13 AM Nyall Dawson  wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 18:11, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:48:59AM +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> > >
> > > > But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-)
> > >
> > > Except learning curve will need to be taken once again...
> >
> > And the many 10's of 1000s of $$ it will cost to migrate all the CI
> > and integration scripts. The values of those should never be
> > understated.
> 
> IMO now that's dockerized it should not be that hard to move to another CI
> infrastructure (not that I'm proposing that now).

For the record, https://dronie.osgeo.org (login with OSGeo credentials)
is already docker-based, and is currently used by both GEOS and PostGIS.
See https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/commits/branch/svn-trunk
and https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/geos/geos/commits/branch/master for
examples (those green-or-red tiny icons near each commit).

NOTE that an externally hosted instance of Drone (the open source software
used for https://dronie.osgeo.org) can be pointed to github.com for
getting used to it. See examples of that here:
https://github.com/postgis/postgis/pull/403
In the case above, the _same_ CI configuration is read by both the
OSGeo hosted instance (building PRs opened on https://git.osgeo.org)
_and_ by the externally hosted instance (building PRs opened on github)

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[QGIS-Developer] Will the resource sharing plugin be ported to a core plugin? Or or similar functionality implemented?

[Áron Gergely]

Hi Developers list,

A long time user, budding contributor here. Thanks so much for building 
QGIS to what it is today! :)


Does anyone know whether it is a plan to port the QGIS Resource Sharing 
plugin to a core plugin?


I have read a mention of this among the issues+comments on the plugin's 
github, see here:

https://github.com/akbargumbira/qgis_resources_sharing/issues/51#issuecomment-344397441

I have asked the developer of the plugin a while ago but received no 
response. I thought perhaps someone here knows whether this is (was) 
indeed the plan?
Otherwise, would there be a plan to implement its functionality? And if 
so, do you need help doing that?


Best Regards,
Áron Gergely
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Nyall Dawson]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 20:16, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 2019-06-05 11:59, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
> On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 09:48:59 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>
> Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the migrated ticket
> from qgib back to myself?
>
>
> No, I don't you can claim other people's (or bot's ;)) work either.
>
>
>
> But hey - that stupid qgib bot claimed my work to be his work during the 
> migration! And now he can't give it back to me?
>
> Not a big issue. I can live with it. As long as the core developers have some 
> benefit from the issue migration, then I'm fine.

Well, I for one and finding it much easier to use.

Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi, 


On 2019-06-05 11:59, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:


Hi Andreas,

On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 09:48:59 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote: 


Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the migrated ticket
from qgib back to myself?


No, I don't you can claim other people's (or bot's ;)) work either.


But hey - that stupid qgib bot claimed my work to be his work during the
migration! And now he can't give it back to me? 


Not a big issue. I can live with it. As long as the core developers have
some benefit from the issue migration, then I'm fine. 


Personally I just have to get used to the new issue system on github. Of
course, it takes some time to learn a new system. And no - not
everything is easy and self-explaining on github. I would say, because
it is a really open system, that it might even be harder to use than
Redmine for new users who never used github before (except for the
Mantra of course ;-) ).


Once again:  the mantra was not necessary for redmine - shortly after getting
osgeo ids was requiring the mantra, we enabled direct registration in redmine
available (and openid was available too).


you are right of course. And the Mantra is still required for
plugin-authors. So nothing really improved by the move to Github
regarding the Mantra. 


And for the open nature of github: you cannot assign owners (see above) - and
you cannot integrate an external ticket system.


Sorry - I wasn't very clear what I meant with "open nature" of GitHub: i
mean the "open" (unstructured) way of categorizing issues in Github.
Labels being the only way of structuring anything in the issues, whereas
we had versions, code areas, state, feature vs bug and more in Redmine.
If people don't use the label system consciously we quickly end up with
a big mess. That is my concern. 


But you can use tons of other services, that make you more dependent on github
(like travis) ;)


And I hope that the open nature of GitHub doesn't lead to a big mess. For
developers, the github integration is definitely very nice though.

But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-)


As if that ever would happen - but I was hoping the same for the redmine
migration - so you never know ;)


Who knows ... 


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Andreas,

On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 09:48:59 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the migrated ticket
> from qgib back to myself?

No, I don't you can claim other people's (or bot's ;)) work either.

 
> Personally I just have to get used to the new issue system on github. Of
> course, it takes some time to learn a new system. And no - not
> everything is easy and self-explaining on github. I would say, because
> it is a really open system, that it might even be harder to use than
> Redmine for new users who never used github before (except for the
> Mantra of course ;-) ).

Once again:  the mantra was not necessary for redmine - shortly after getting
osgeo ids was requiring the mantra, we enabled direct registration in redmine
available (and openid was available too).

And for the open nature of github: you cannot assign owners (see above) - and
you cannot integrate an external ticket system.

But you can use tons of other services, that make you more dependent on github
(like travis) ;)


> And I hope that the open nature of GitHub doesn't lead to a big mess. For
> developers, the github integration is definitely very nice though.
> 
> But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-)

As if that ever would happen - but I was hoping the same for the redmine
migration - so you never know ;)


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

> On 5 Jun 2019, at 07:40, Jürgen E. Fischer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> On Tue, 04. Jun 2019 at 15:28:57 +0100, Tim Sutton wrote:
>> Those are just pings against version.txt - we could probably trawl the 
>> apache logs to get OS etc….
> 
> Nope, just the version:
> 
> … [05/Jun/2019:08:33:23 +0200] "GET /version.txt HTTP/1.1" 304 3602 "-" 
> "Mozilla/5.0 QGIS/2.18.28”

Oh yeah - silly me - I forgot QGIS was the user agent.

Thanks

Tim

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Matthias Kuhn]

On 6/5/19 10:26 AM, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:


On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:13 AM Nyall Dawson > wrote:


On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 18:11, Sandro Santilli mailto:s...@kbt.io>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:48:59AM +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the
migrated ticket
> > from qgib back to myself?
>
> Not from the UI, and not sure GitHub will allow this (would imply
> rewriting history?).
>
> > Of course, it takes some time to learn a new system.
>
> Right, and all that time will be capitalized by GitHub as customers
> retention (nobody likes to learn new things, so people would feel
> more comfortable in staying there, rather than moving elsewhere).
>
> > I would say, because it is a really open system
>
> What do you mean here ?
>
> > it might even be harder to use than Redmine for new users who
never
> > used github before (except for the Mantra of course ;-) ).
>
> Just for the record: Redmine also allowed OpenID login, and
could have
> easily allowed github login as well (plugins did exist).
>
> > For developers, the github integration is definitely very nice
though.
>
> You mean commit logs linking back to tickes ?
>
> > But everything will be easier when we move from Github to
Gitlab ;-)
>
> Except learning curve will need to be taken once again...

And the many 10's of 1000s of $$ it will cost to migrate all the CI
and integration scripts. The values of those should never be
understated.


IMO now that's dockerized it should not be that hard to move to 
another CI infrastructure (not that I'm proposing that now).


I think Nyall was talking about more than the CI, there are many scripts 
and integrations running in the background on which we rely from day to 
day, not just the CI.


The hours to migrate them would be immense. And the hours lost by people 
because service X is no longer working although they had relied on it 
must also not be ignored. It's just outsourced costs in the end.


Matthias



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:13 AM Nyall Dawson  wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 18:11, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:48:59AM +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the migrated ticket
> > > from qgib back to myself?
> >
> > Not from the UI, and not sure GitHub will allow this (would imply
> > rewriting history?).
> >
> > > Of course, it takes some time to learn a new system.
> >
> > Right, and all that time will be capitalized by GitHub as customers
> > retention (nobody likes to learn new things, so people would feel
> > more comfortable in staying there, rather than moving elsewhere).
> >
> > > I would say, because it is a really open system
> >
> > What do you mean here ?
> >
> > > it might even be harder to use than Redmine for new users who never
> > > used github before (except for the Mantra of course ;-) ).
> >
> > Just for the record: Redmine also allowed OpenID login, and could have
> > easily allowed github login as well (plugins did exist).
> >
> > > For developers, the github integration is definitely very nice though.
> >
> > You mean commit logs linking back to tickes ?
> >
> > > But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-)
> >
> > Except learning curve will need to be taken once again...
>
> And the many 10's of 1000s of $$ it will cost to migrate all the CI
> and integration scripts. The values of those should never be
> understated.
>
>
IMO now that's dockerized it should not be that hard to move to another CI
infrastructure (not that I'm proposing that now).


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Nyall Dawson]

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 18:11, Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:48:59AM +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the migrated ticket
> > from qgib back to myself?
>
> Not from the UI, and not sure GitHub will allow this (would imply
> rewriting history?).
>
> > Of course, it takes some time to learn a new system.
>
> Right, and all that time will be capitalized by GitHub as customers
> retention (nobody likes to learn new things, so people would feel
> more comfortable in staying there, rather than moving elsewhere).
>
> > I would say, because it is a really open system
>
> What do you mean here ?
>
> > it might even be harder to use than Redmine for new users who never
> > used github before (except for the Mantra of course ;-) ).
>
> Just for the record: Redmine also allowed OpenID login, and could have
> easily allowed github login as well (plugins did exist).
>
> > For developers, the github integration is definitely very nice though.
>
> You mean commit logs linking back to tickes ?
>
> > But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-)
>
> Except learning curve will need to be taken once again...

And the many 10's of 1000s of $$ it will cost to migrate all the CI
and integration scripts. The values of those should never be
understated.

Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Sandro Santilli]

On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:48:59AM +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:

> Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the migrated ticket
> from qgib back to myself?

Not from the UI, and not sure GitHub will allow this (would imply
rewriting history?).

> Of course, it takes some time to learn a new system.

Right, and all that time will be capitalized by GitHub as customers
retention (nobody likes to learn new things, so people would feel
more comfortable in staying there, rather than moving elsewhere).

> I would say, because it is a really open system

What do you mean here ? 

> it might even be harder to use than Redmine for new users who never
> used github before (except for the Mantra of course ;-) ).

Just for the record: Redmine also allowed OpenID login, and could have
easily allowed github login as well (plugins did exist).

> For developers, the github integration is definitely very nice though.

You mean commit logs linking back to tickes ?

> But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-)

Except learning curve will need to be taken once again...

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi all, 

Thanks for your help and tips! 


Is there a way to manually re-assign the author of the migrated ticket
from qgib back to myself? 


Personally I just have to get used to the new issue system on github. Of
course, it takes some time to learn a new system. And no - not
everything is easy and self-explaining on github. I would say, because
it is a really open system, that it might even be harder to use than
Redmine for new users who never used github before (except for the
Mantra of course ;-) ). And I hope that the open nature of GitHub
doesn't lead to a big mess. For developers, the github integration is
definitely very nice though. 

But everything will be easier when we move from Github to Gitlab ;-) 

Thanks, 

Andreas 


On 2019-06-05 09:09, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:


Hi Andreas,

On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 08:46:22 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote: 


Ah - I found out that I need to filter by "tickets mentioning you".



However, that also includes tickets that were not opened by myself, but
someone cc-ed me - right?



Also - is it normal that all tickets that I reported by myself are now
owned by qgib?


Yes - qgib could not impersonate the reporter when creating the issues.

You can still go to redmine to find your tickets - and use the links from there
to go to the github version.

Looking for "Author Name: Andreas Neumann (@andreasneumann) Original" 
produces 249 tickets - which matches the count on redmine.


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Paolo,

On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 09:14:30 +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> thanks for the hints. I really think we need an how-to, and possibly
> shortcuts for the common queries like this.

Come on - github is really easy ;)


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,
thanks for the hints. I really think we need an how-to, and possibly shortcuts 
for the common queries like this.
Cheers.

Il 5 giugno 2019 09:09:58 CEST, "Jürgen E. Fischer"  ha scritto:
>Hi Andreas,
>
>On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 08:46:22 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>> Ah - I found out that I need to filter by "tickets mentioning you".
> 
>> However, that also includes tickets that were not opened by myself,
>but
>> someone cc-ed me - right?
> 
>> Also - is it normal that all tickets that I reported by myself are
>now
>> owned by qgib?
>
>Yes - qgib could not impersonate the reporter when creating the issues.
>
>You can still go to redmine to find your tickets - and use the links
>from there
>to go to the github version.
>
>Looking for "Author Name: Andreas Neumann (@andreasneumann) Original" 
>produces 249 tickets - which matches the count on redmine.
>
>
>Jürgen
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Andreas,

On Wed, 05. Jun 2019 at 08:46:22 +0200, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> Ah - I found out that I need to filter by "tickets mentioning you".
 
> However, that also includes tickets that were not opened by myself, but
> someone cc-ed me - right?
 
> Also - is it normal that all tickets that I reported by myself are now
> owned by qgib?

Yes - qgib could not impersonate the reporter when creating the issues.

You can still go to redmine to find your tickets - and use the links from there
to go to the github version.

Looking for "Author Name: Andreas Neumann (@andreasneumann) Original" 
produces 249 tickets - which matches the count on redmine.


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi, 

Ah - I found out that I need to filter by "tickets mentioning you". 


However, that also includes tickets that were not opened by myself, but
someone cc-ed me - right? 


Also - is it normal that all tickets that I reported by myself are now
owned by qgib? 

Thanks, 

Andreas 


On 2019-06-05 08:41, Andreas Neumann wrote:

Hi, 

After the issue migration, I am trying to find my way around the new issue system. I have a very hard time finding stuff. 

If I use the filter "your issues" - nothing shows up. But I sure had a number of open issues in the old system. 

I would appreciate a bit of assistance here. 

F.e. how can I find all the tickets that I reported myself? 

Or is there some help/documentation available how to query the issues? 

Thanks a lot for your help! 

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[QGIS-Developer] How can I find the tickets that I reported?

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi, 


After the issue migration, I am trying to find my way around the new
issue system. I have a very hard time finding stuff. 


If I use the filter "your issues" - nothing shows up. But I sure had a
number of open issues in the old system. 

I would appreciate a bit of assistance here. 

F.e. how can I find all the tickets that I reported myself? 

Or is there some help/documentation available how to query the issues? 

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Tim,

On Tue, 04. Jun 2019 at 15:28:57 +0100, Tim Sutton wrote:
> Those are just pings against version.txt - we could probably trawl the apache 
> logs to get OS etc….

Nope, just the version:

… [05/Jun/2019:08:33:23 +0200] "GET /version.txt HTTP/1.1" 304 3602 "-" 
"Mozilla/5.0 QGIS/2.18.28"


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] New version notifications

[Paolo Cavallini]

Interesting data, thanks Tim!
Cheers.

On 04/06/19 12:46, Tim Sutton wrote:
> Interestingly our web stats tracker shows version.txt being hit 57.5
> million times in 2018 - which is a pretty useful indication of the
> amount of usage QGIS gets. Even if you divide that by 365 it would
> reflect around 157428 daily active users*.
> 
> 
> * Assuming awstats can be believed to be a true reflection of users
> using QGIS and not bots etc.
> 
> 
> Downloads Hits206 HitsBandwidth   Average size
>   /version.txt   57,461,449  12  
> 120.99 GB
> 2.21 KB
> 
> 
> 
> For me I am fine making it opt-in if that is what others prefer….
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 4 Jun 2019, at 06:38, Richard Duivenvoorde > > wrote:
>>
>> On 04/06/2019 07.11, Etienne Trimaille wrote:
>>> In QGIS Settings -> "General", you can disable "Check QGIS version".
>>>
>>> If you are deploying QGIS with an INI file, you can do it
>>> programmatically. You can hide this checkbox because QGIS version is
>>> managed by the system administrator.
>>> https://docs.qgis.org/3.4/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/qgis_configuration.html#deploying-qgis-within-an-organization
>>>
>>> Le mar. 4 juin 2019 à 06:55, Bernhard Ströbl >> > a écrit :
>>>
>>>    On that occasion:
>>>
>>>    how can I deactivate the new version information? I get frequent calls
>>>    from my users asking if they need to do something. It's kind of
>>>    annoying
>>>    because we use LTS.
>>
>> In my view, this should be DISabled by default, and being asked (at
>> startup?) if the user wants this.
>>
>> It is actually a 'phone home' mechanisme, which I personally dislike
>> (even if developers developed it as 'service for users').
>>
>> Quickmapservices plugin does the same (and stalls QGIS till timeout if
>> you network/proxy issues).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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