Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
Hi, I had actually been wondering if we should make a small deb that users can double click that does the setup of the repos for them (creates the source.list.d/qgis.list). Would even be awesome to make it detect the version of the OS and put in the right repos for that version. Then we could move the how to do it by hand to an Advanced section. I would also appreciate a one-click solution. But I would make a shell script instead of a .deb, so it will work across different distributions. Matthias ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: Barry - To clarify again, the Ubuntugis version is the same version of QGIS, what differs is GDAL, PROJ and GEOS - by significant version, ie gdal 1.8 vs 1.10 This is critical because 1.10.x supports more of the formats people having been asking for like HDF, etc... Another annoyance: I can't get SAGA geoprocessing working. I think this is because the saga version on ubuntugis-unstable is 2.0.8, but QGIS requires 2.1 according to: http://docs.qgis.org/2.0/html/en/docs/user_manual/processing/3rdParty.html Also, those docs mention an option I can't find: the SAGA Folder setting in the SAGA configuration. Is this supposed to be in the Processing/Options and Configuration dialog in QGIS 2.0? - Maybe that will either magically appear when I do get SAGA 2.1 installed or its a hangover from an earlier QGIS Sorry to bring these up post-release, but I had to upgrade my machine first and didn't want to do that before FOSS4G! Barry ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
On 09/30/2013 07:35 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: Barry - To clarify again, the Ubuntugis version is the same version of QGIS, what differs is GDAL, PROJ and GEOS - by significant version, ie gdal 1.8 vs 1.10 This is critical because 1.10.x supports more of the formats people having been asking for like HDF, etc... Another annoyance: I can't get SAGA geoprocessing working. I think this is because the saga version on ubuntugis-unstable is 2.0.8, but QGIS requires 2.1 according to: http://docs.qgis.org/2.0/html/en/docs/user_manual/processing/3rdParty.html Also, those docs mention an option I can't find: the SAGA Folder setting in the SAGA configuration. Is this supposed to be in the Processing/Options and Configuration dialog in QGIS 2.0? - Maybe that will either magically appear when I do get SAGA 2.1 installed or its a hangover from an earlier QGIS Sorry to bring these up post-release, but I had to upgrade my machine first and didn't want to do that before FOSS4G! Barry That's a known packaging issue previous discussed with Johan. SAGA 2.1 requires newer wxwidgets than 12.04 has (which could also effect GRASS). He was hesitant to put wxwidgets in Ubuntugis. I think he was going to ask Victor to make it possible to still use 2.0.8 with Processing/Sextante, which we do have. Or you can get it from https://launchpad.net/~johanvdw/+archive/saga-gis Not sure if it will break GRASS or not. Last discussion on the topic was on in August. Thanks, Alex ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
Tried adding that PPA, now saga conflicts with itself in synaptic. And if I install with apt-get it removes Qgis. If I try and install Qgis, it removes Saga. $ sudo apt-get install saga currently says Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies. saga : Depends: libgdal1 (= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: liblas1 but it is not going to be installed trying to install libgdal1 results in qgis and a bunch of other packages being REMOVED (in capitals) - I guess because they use libgdal1h? Whatever that is. I'm a bit disappointed that I've started from a clean, modern Ubuntu install (ok, Mint) and am instantly in some kind of dependency hell. I was hoping it would be add a source, get qgis, get other goodies, play. Does this all work off OSGeo Live 7? On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: On 09/30/2013 07:35 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: Barry - To clarify again, the Ubuntugis version is the same version of QGIS, what differs is GDAL, PROJ and GEOS - by significant version, ie gdal 1.8 vs 1.10 This is critical because 1.10.x supports more of the formats people having been asking for like HDF, etc... Another annoyance: I can't get SAGA geoprocessing working. I think this is because the saga version on ubuntugis-unstable is 2.0.8, but QGIS requires 2.1 according to: http://docs.qgis.org/2.0/html/en/docs/user_manual/processing/3rdParty.html Also, those docs mention an option I can't find: the SAGA Folder setting in the SAGA configuration. Is this supposed to be in the Processing/Options and Configuration dialog in QGIS 2.0? - Maybe that will either magically appear when I do get SAGA 2.1 installed or its a hangover from an earlier QGIS Sorry to bring these up post-release, but I had to upgrade my machine first and didn't want to do that before FOSS4G! Barry That's a known packaging issue previous discussed with Johan. SAGA 2.1 requires newer wxwidgets than 12.04 has (which could also effect GRASS). He was hesitant to put wxwidgets in Ubuntugis. I think he was going to ask Victor to make it possible to still use 2.0.8 with Processing/Sextante, which we do have. Or you can get it from https://launchpad.net/~johanvdw/+archive/saga-gis Not sure if it will break GRASS or not. Last discussion on the topic was on in August. Thanks, Alex ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
FYI, there's a recently new ppa purge command which is awesome for cleaning out ppas and stuff they installed back to base system. As for this issue, I reread some stuff and saw a hint from Victor that there's a checkbox in the plugin config to enable SAGA 2.0.8 to work with QGIS 2+ I think SAGA 2.1 will have to wait for newer than Ubuntu 12.04 http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/71821/saga-2-0-8-and-gqis-2-0-1-on-ubuntu-13-04/72376?noredirect=1#72376 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/8301 Thanks, Alex On 09/30/2013 09:54 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: Tried adding that PPA, now saga conflicts with itself in synaptic. And if I install with apt-get it removes Qgis. If I try and install Qgis, it removes Saga. $ sudo apt-get install saga currently says Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies. saga : Depends: libgdal1 (= 1.8.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: liblas1 but it is not going to be installed trying to install libgdal1 results in qgis and a bunch of other packages being REMOVED (in capitals) - I guess because they use libgdal1h? Whatever that is. I'm a bit disappointed that I've started from a clean, modern Ubuntu install (ok, Mint) and am instantly in some kind of dependency hell. I was hoping it would be add a source, get qgis, get other goodies, play. Does this all work off OSGeo Live 7? On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: On 09/30/2013 07:35 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: Barry - To clarify again, the Ubuntugis version is the same version of QGIS, what differs is GDAL, PROJ and GEOS - by significant version, ie gdal 1.8 vs 1.10 This is critical because 1.10.x supports more of the formats people having been asking for like HDF, etc... Another annoyance: I can't get SAGA geoprocessing working. I think this is because the saga version on ubuntugis-unstable is 2.0.8, but QGIS requires 2.1 according to: http://docs.qgis.org/2.0/html/en/docs/user_manual/processing/3rdParty.html Also, those docs mention an option I can't find: the SAGA Folder setting in the SAGA configuration. Is this supposed to be in the Processing/Options and Configuration dialog in QGIS 2.0? - Maybe that will either magically appear when I do get SAGA 2.1 installed or its a hangover from an earlier QGIS Sorry to bring these up post-release, but I had to upgrade my machine first and didn't want to do that before FOSS4G! Barry That's a known packaging issue previous discussed with Johan. SAGA 2.1 requires newer wxwidgets than 12.04 has (which could also effect GRASS). He was hesitant to put wxwidgets in Ubuntugis. I think he was going to ask Victor to make it possible to still use 2.0.8 with Processing/Sextante, which we do have. Or you can get it from https://launchpad.net/~johanvdw/+archive/saga-gis Not sure if it will break GRASS or not. Last discussion on the topic was on in August. Thanks, Alex ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: Sounds like it needs a little more clean up. Yes, its not very friendly for Linux beginners who may never have edited apt sources files before. It may be a better idea to suggest putting the deb lines into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qgis.list (assuming the various distros apt versions support a directory of source lists). I'm also not sure the Linux installation should talk about 'installers' since that to me means a runnable executable that does the installation (as in Windows) and not a package-based system, but thats a minor quibble. So I'm still a bit unclear what the text should say. Is it: EITHER: Get the latest stable version via packages from qgis.org by creating /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qgis.list with the correct lines for your Ubuntu version: deb http://qgis.org/debian raring main deb-src http://qgis.org/debian raring main [etc] and then run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install qgis [etc etc]. OR Get the latest unstable/bugfix version from the ubuntugis project via the ubuntugis-unstable PPA: [apt-add-repository instructions etc] and then run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install qgis [etc etc] I don't know why the current instructions mention the ubuntugis project at the start of the text telling you to add qgis.org to sources.list. Are these packages the same/previous versions of packages that appeared on the ubuntugis PPA? Also, typo on http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html Recommendend, should be Recommended. While I'm being picky :) the FreeBSD instructions simply say: To compile QGIS from binary packages type: pkg_add -r qgis Surely you only compile from source packages? Does this do an *install* from binary packages? Barry ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
Hi, well, the instructions were streamlined too much. The original ubuntu instructions on http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Download are still correct (give or take some added or removed distributions). I opened a ticket on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/issues/104 yesterday. Jürgen -- Jürgen E. Fischer norBIT GmbH Tel. +49-4931-918175-31 Dipl.-Inf. (FH) Rheinstraße 13Fax. +49-4931-918175-50 Software Engineer D-26506 Norden http://www.norbit.de QGIS PSC member (RM) IRC: jef on FreeNode -- norBIT Gesellschaft fuer Unternehmensberatung und Informationssysteme mbH Rheinstrasse 13, 26506 Norden GF: Jelto Buurman, HR: Amtsgericht Emden, HRB 5502 ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
On 09/29/2013 02:27 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote: Hi, well, the instructions were streamlined too much. The original ubuntu instructions on http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Download are still correct (give or take some added or removed distributions). I opened a ticket on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/issues/104 yesterday. Jürgen I had actually been wondering if we should make a small deb that users can double click that does the setup of the repos for them (creates the source.list.d/qgis.list). Would even be awesome to make it detect the version of the OS and put in the right repos for that version. Then we could move the how to do it by hand to an Advanced section. I've seen some other projects do this (Trying to find a good example). Barry - To clarify again, the Ubuntugis version is the same version of QGIS, what differs is GDAL, PROJ and GEOS - by significant version, ie gdal 1.8 vs 1.10 This is critical because 1.10.x supports more of the formats people having been asking for like HDF, etc... To be honest I always recommend Ubuntugis/Stable or /Unstable to everyone I work with over the qgis.org packages. Partly because of serious things fixed in GDAL but also because its the best way to get Postgis2, which is becoming common with QGIS users, and newer Spatialite (outside QGIS). The qgis.org sweet spot seems to be the nightly builds which are for the more technically inclined anyways and should know how to manipulate apt. Thanks, Alex ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
[Qgis-developer] install instructions
I've just upgraded to Linux Mint 15 and had some trouble installing QGIS. I followed the instructions on the shiny new web pages for Raring Ringtail. The instructions seem to imply adding both qgis.org and the ubuntugis PPA to sources. The qgis.org repo seems to have 2.0.1-2, and ubuntugis had 2.0.1-1 - I got into a weird state where the conflicts list of python-qgis included python-qgis Removing the qgis repo from sources and chanting various apt spells eventually got me a clean qgis from ubuntugis-unstable with version 2.0.1-1~raring and python support working. I thought ubuntugis-unstable would be more recent (and hence less stable) than qgis.org, so why does it have a lower version number? What was causing the odd conflict? What did I do wrong? The install instructions aren't very beginner friendly for Linux. But it does look lovely Now time to play with the toolbox And maybe start porting my plugins! Barry ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
On 09/27/2013 09:55 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: I've just upgraded to Linux Mint 15 and had some trouble installing QGIS. I followed the instructions on the shiny new web pages for Raring Ringtail. The instructions seem to imply adding both qgis.org and the ubuntugis PPA to sources. That should be a really huge OR It's qgis.org OR ubuntugis If you do both you end up with potential conflicts. The qgis.org repo seems to have 2.0.1-2, and ubuntugis had 2.0.1-1 - I got into a weird state where the conflicts list of python-qgis included python-qgis Removing the qgis repo from sources and chanting various apt spells eventually got me a clean qgis from ubuntugis-unstable with version 2.0.1-1~raring and python support working. I thought ubuntugis-unstable would be more recent (and hence less stable) than qgis.org, so why does it have a lower version number? What was causing the odd conflict? What did I do wrong? The version of QGIS is actually the same, -# is actuall just an increment that gets raised every time someone reuploads the same package with a minor packagin fix. What differs is the versions of underlying libraries: gdal, geos, and proj For many people having a newer gdal (1.10.x) and a newer goes fix a good deal of bugs in support certain format reading/writing and certain spatial analysis operations. The install instructions aren't very beginner friendly for Linux. But it does look lovely Now time to play with the toolbox And maybe start porting my plugins! Barry Sounds like it needs a little more clean up. Thanks, Alex ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
I had similar problems installing on raring, like you I had both listed, but now use these instructions disable any other source you may have added: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install qgis python-qgis qgis-plugin-grass This installs but you may get an error when starting QGIS on Ubuntu which is normally because the owner of the .QGIS2 folder is Root rather than your logon user. You may need to change this. Once QGIS successfully opens you are likely to still have problems with the Processing Toolbox (formerly SEXTANTE) if you want to use its GRASS commands or GDAL. I have been trying for several weeks now to get the GRASS commands in Processing to work on either Windows or Ubuntu (raring or precis) without any success, most recently GDAL isn't configured correctly for the processing Toolbox. I have tried various releases from 1.80, 1.9, 2.0.1 and 2.1.0-master. If you don't need the Processing Toolbox you should find most other things are a great improvement over 1.8. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/install-instructions-tp5080617p5080629.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, stevenhorner ste...@stevenhorner.comwrote: I had similar problems installing on raring, like you I had both listed, but now use these instructions disable any other source you may have added: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install qgis python-qgis qgis-plugin-grass This installs but you may get an error when starting QGIS on Ubuntu which is normally because the owner of the .QGIS2 folder is Root rather than your logon user. You may need to change this. I experienced the same problem (.qgis2 folder created by root). Is that folder created by qgis installation? Probably, but very odd. This is a BIG bug and should be fixed, is there a bug report on this? Etienne Once QGIS successfully opens you are likely to still have problems with the Processing Toolbox (formerly SEXTANTE) if you want to use its GRASS commands or GDAL. I have been trying for several weeks now to get the GRASS commands in Processing to work on either Windows or Ubuntu (raring or precis) without any success, most recently GDAL isn't configured correctly for the processing Toolbox. I have tried various releases from 1.80, 1.9, 2.0.1 and 2.1.0-master. If you don't need the Processing Toolbox you should find most other things are a great improvement over 1.8. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/install-instructions-tp5080617p5080629.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
Etienne Tourigny-3 wrote On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, stevenhorner lt; steven@ gt;wrote: I had similar problems installing on raring, like you I had both listed, but now use these instructions disable any other source you may have added: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install qgis python-qgis qgis-plugin-grass This installs but you may get an error when starting QGIS on Ubuntu which is normally because the owner of the .QGIS2 folder is Root rather than your logon user. You may need to change this. I experienced the same problem (.qgis2 folder created by root). Is that folder created by qgis installation? Probably, but very odd. This is a BIG bug and should be fixed, is there a bug report on this? Etienne Yes it's on the issue list here: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/8613 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/8613 -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/install-instructions-tp5080617p5080633.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] install instructions
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM, stevenhorner ste...@stevenhorner.comwrote: Etienne Tourigny-3 wrote On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, stevenhorner lt; steven@ gt;wrote: I had similar problems installing on raring, like you I had both listed, but now use these instructions disable any other source you may have added: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install qgis python-qgis qgis-plugin-grass This installs but you may get an error when starting QGIS on Ubuntu which is normally because the owner of the .QGIS2 folder is Root rather than your logon user. You may need to change this. I experienced the same problem (.qgis2 folder created by root). Is that folder created by qgis installation? Probably, but very odd. This is a BIG bug and should be fixed, is there a bug report on this? Etienne Yes it's on the issue list here: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/8613 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/8613 sorry just saw that a few minutes ago! -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/install-instructions-tp5080617p5080633.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
