Re: [Qgis-user] Intel vs AMD

[Brent Wood]

 This one is known to be problematic: 
seehttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/hardware/graphics-cards/1135054-msi-alpha-15
none of the issues they describe relate to the cpu itself, as far as I can 
tell, so how much an AMD vs Intel issue I'm not sure. Generally wifi is most 
problematic, along with sleeping, power mgmt & such
If you are looking at trying Linux on a laptop, check the model for known 
problems:
https://linux-laptop.net/https://linuxhint.com/linux_laptop_buyers_guide_2020/
or just google linux & laptop model.

I can endorse the brands recommended in the second site... I pretty much 
exclusively run Dell & Lenovo laptops for Linux these days. Currently 4 Dell 
(12", 13" & 14" screens i5 & i7) & one Lenovo laptop (14" i7), in addition to a 
Xeon workstation & Ryzen general purpose system. 

Laptops bought used for NZD300-400, and toss an SSD in to replace a HDD if it 
has one.


Cheers,
  Brent






On Thursday, September 10, 2020, 6:32:33 PM GMT+12, Carlos López PSIG 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi,Be careful with AMD and Linux, I had a lot of problems with 
drivers...Finally, I installed Windows (OMG!) because I had a lot of problems, 
graphic, battery, wifi, etc...I bought this laptop 
MSI:https://www.msi.com/Laptop/Alpha-15-A4DX

Cheers,

PSIGImplementació, gestió i formació SIG
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El mié., 9 sept. 2020 a las 22:41, Brent Wood () escribió:

 Hi,
Not specifically AMD vs Intel, that is pretty much irrelevant. It more depends 
which cpu (how powerful/fast, how much memory & how big & how fast the disk. 
Lower end laptops can struggle with significant processing tasks. Also do you 
run Windows or Linux? Linux compatability can be an issue, but much less than 
it used to be.

I have done very well for years picking up recycled ex-lease laptops for 
QGIS/Postgis etc... I reckon a good business quality laptop that came with a 3 
year warranty when new, is 4-5 years old & has a used warranty for 6-12 months 
is generally a much better buy than a new consumer grade laptop with a 1 yr 
warranty.
A quick search found a few refurbished sellers in Perth (I'm in New Zealand so 
can't advise on vendors there), 
like:https://www.recompute.com.au/refurbished-laptops/https://www.reboot-it.com.au/used-laptops

Cheers,
  Brent Wood

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 2:07:56 PM GMT+12, Maria Niermann 
(23153112) <23153...@student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:  
 
 Hi

Anyone got word as to any issues that might arise going AMD processor on a 
laptop?

Thanks

Maria Niermann
MSc Hydrogeology

Studying - MScEnvSc CATWA at UWA (Environmental Science - Catchment & Water)
University of Western Australia
School of Agriculture and Environment
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Re: [Qgis-user] Intel vs AMD

[Maria Niermann (23153112)]

Thanks. Not a Linux user, although I have been pondering at times.


Maria Niermann
MSc Hydrogeology

Studying - MScEnvSc CATWA at UWA (Environmental Science - Catchment & Water)
University of Western Australia
School of Agriculture and Environment

On 10 Sep 2020, at 19:41, Charles Dixon-Paver  wrote:


I have had issues with AMD graphics hardware on Linux but not with processors 
(desktop systems only). Laptop manufacturers will usually identify which 
devices have been designed as compatible with Linux or other operating systems, 
in which case if your device is not explicitly supported you may encounter 
driver issues with the various components (bluetooth/ WLAN cards etc) or maybe 
even have do a couple of preload hacks to get it running on your hardware. In 
my experience, this happens regardless of the hardware vendor.

I have encountered issues with AMD processors with legacy operating systems 
(i.e. Windows 7) where just getting them to work required hacks and the system 
experienced a degradation of performance. In other cases, where performance was 
not as expected, OS level system tweaking usually got things chugging along 
smoothly (usually a windows default "enhancement" causing a bug, and it's 
usually patched at some point). In some instances, issues were caused by other 
hardware settings (e.g. RAM config) or related to other application specific 
settings on the motherboard or overclocking configuration, which is usually 
pretty scenario specific and requires rtfm. With a laptop, I doubt this is 
anything you need to worry about.

In short, you shouldn't have any problems if you're intending on "normal" 
usage, but Linux compatibility is a consideration with a laptop purchase if you 
intend on using it.

Regards

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 04:07, Maria Niermann (23153112) 
<23153...@student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
Hi

Anyone got word as to any issues that might arise going AMD processor on a 
laptop?

Thanks

Maria Niermann
MSc Hydrogeology

Studying - MScEnvSc CATWA at UWA (Environmental Science - Catchment & Water)
University of Western Australia
School of Agriculture and Environment
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Re: [Qgis-user] Intel vs AMD

[Charles Dixon-Paver]

I have had issues with AMD graphics hardware on Linux but not with
processors (desktop systems only). Laptop manufacturers will usually
identify which devices have been designed as compatible with Linux or other
operating systems, in which case if your device is not explicitly supported
you may encounter driver issues with the various components (bluetooth/
WLAN cards etc) or maybe even have do a couple of preload hacks to get it
running on your hardware. In my experience, this happens regardless of the
hardware vendor.

I *have* encountered issues with AMD processors with legacy operating
systems (i.e. Windows 7) where just getting them to work required hacks and
the system experienced a degradation of performance. In other cases, where
performance was not as expected, OS level system tweaking usually got
things chugging along smoothly (usually a windows default "enhancement"
causing a bug, and it's usually patched at some point). In some instances,
issues were caused by other hardware settings (e.g. RAM config) or related
to other application specific settings on the motherboard or overclocking
configuration, which is usually pretty scenario specific and requires rtfm.
With a laptop, I doubt this is anything you need to worry about.

In short, you shouldn't have any problems if you're intending on "normal"
usage, but Linux compatibility is a consideration with a laptop purchase if
you intend on using it.

Regards

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 04:07, Maria Niermann (23153112) <
23153...@student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Anyone got word as to any issues that might arise going AMD processor on a
> laptop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Maria Niermann
> MSc Hydrogeology
>
> Studying - MScEnvSc CATWA at UWA (Environmental Science - Catchment &
> Water)
> University of Western Australia
> School of Agriculture and Environment
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Re: [Qgis-user] Intel vs AMD

[Carlos López PSIG]

Hi,
Be careful with AMD and Linux, I had a lot of problems with drivers...
Finally, I installed Windows (OMG!) because I had a lot of problems,
graphic, battery, wifi, etc...
I bought this laptop MSI:
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/Alpha-15-A4DX

Cheers,


* *
*PSIG*
Implementació, gestió i formació SIG

*Carlos López Quintanilla*

www.psig.es
carlos.lo...@psig.es
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El mié., 9 sept. 2020 a las 22:41, Brent Wood () escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Not specifically AMD vs Intel, that is pretty much irrelevant. It more
> depends which cpu (how powerful/fast, how much memory & how big & how fast
> the disk. Lower end laptops can struggle with significant processing tasks.
> Also do you run Windows or Linux? Linux compatability can be an issue, but
> much less than it used to be.
>
> I have done very well for years picking up recycled ex-lease laptops for
> QGIS/Postgis etc... I reckon a good business quality laptop that came with
> a 3 year warranty when new, is 4-5 years old & has a used warranty for 6-12
> months is generally a much better buy than a new consumer grade laptop with
> a 1 yr warranty.
>
> A quick search found a few refurbished sellers in Perth (I'm in New
> Zealand so can't advise on vendors there), like:
> https://www.recompute.com.au/refurbished-laptops/
> https://www.reboot-it.com.au/used-laptops
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>   Brent Wood
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 2:07:56 PM GMT+12, Maria Niermann
> (23153112) <23153...@student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> Anyone got word as to any issues that might arise going AMD processor on a
> laptop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Maria Niermann
> MSc Hydrogeology
>
> Studying - MScEnvSc CATWA at UWA (Environmental Science - Catchment &
> Water)
> University of Western Australia
> School of Agriculture and Environment
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Re: [Qgis-user] Intel vs AMD

[Brent Wood]

 Hi,
Not specifically AMD vs Intel, that is pretty much irrelevant. It more depends 
which cpu (how powerful/fast, how much memory & how big & how fast the disk. 
Lower end laptops can struggle with significant processing tasks. Also do you 
run Windows or Linux? Linux compatability can be an issue, but much less than 
it used to be.

I have done very well for years picking up recycled ex-lease laptops for 
QGIS/Postgis etc... I reckon a good business quality laptop that came with a 3 
year warranty when new, is 4-5 years old & has a used warranty for 6-12 months 
is generally a much better buy than a new consumer grade laptop with a 1 yr 
warranty.
A quick search found a few refurbished sellers in Perth (I'm in New Zealand so 
can't advise on vendors there), 
like:https://www.recompute.com.au/refurbished-laptops/https://www.reboot-it.com.au/used-laptops

Cheers,
  Brent Wood

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 2:07:56 PM GMT+12, Maria Niermann 
(23153112) <23153...@student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:  
 
 Hi

Anyone got word as to any issues that might arise going AMD processor on a 
laptop?

Thanks

Maria Niermann
MSc Hydrogeology

Studying - MScEnvSc CATWA at UWA (Environmental Science - Catchment & Water)
University of Western Australia
School of Agriculture and Environment
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Re: [Qgis-user] Intel vs AMD

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi, 
Currently, I would go with AMD no questions asked. Be careful thought, budget 
laptop equals budget cpu.  I would shop before buying.  As for compatibility, 
you will find AMD to be a perfect replacement for Intel x86 machines.

Nicolas Cadieux
Ça va bien aller!

> Le 8 sept. 2020 à 22:08, Maria Niermann (23153112) 
> <23153...@student.uwa.edu.au> a écrit :
> 
> Hi
> 
> Anyone got word as to any issues that might arise going AMD processor on a 
> laptop?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Maria Niermann
> MSc Hydrogeology
> 
> Studying - MScEnvSc CATWA at UWA (Environmental Science - Catchment & Water)
> University of Western Australia
> School of Agriculture and Environment
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Re: [Qgis-user] Intel vs AMD

[Nyall Dawson]

On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 12:08, Maria Niermann (23153112)
<23153...@student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Anyone got word as to any issues that might arise going AMD processor on a 
> laptop?

Should be none, unless you count better performance and less security
risks as issues! :D

Nyall

>
> Thanks
>
> Maria Niermann
> MSc Hydrogeology
>
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> University of Western Australia
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