Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 109, Issue 4

2013-03-03 Thread paul 

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Message: 1

> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 10:54:24 -0600
> From: Dave Park



> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users]

[QL-Users] Coming up in the next few weeks.



Hi all,



I have also been working on restoring a Thor XVI. This unit had a
leaked batery which corroded the circuit board and some of the
components. I have got it to where it boots and I can see there's
text, but the video image is so distorted I cannot read what it says.
This Thor has the 2MB RAM, two floppies and a Rodime HD of unknown
size. If it ends up being unrepairable, I would be happy to part it
out to get other Thors up and running.



I am also very interested in finding the following:



* A schematic for the Thor version that piggy-backed an 020 onto a
BBQL (specifically the 020 mod) * JEDEC files/equations for any
custom logic in any interface cards * a way to re-implement QL video
in 32-bit wide RAM, and with an improved output format. I would very
much like to produce a "QL Video Card" that makes the on-board video
unnecessary, and then disable the onboard video (shame that IC does
so much else) *broken Gold Cards/Super Gold Cards for spares/repair



Dave


Dave, I got to sort of wonder if that is a video format problem, USA
video format vs Uk or European???
(just the thoughts that passed thru yee old brain)


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Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

2013-03-03 Thread Lee Privett 
Thanks Dave, I would not say violent agreement, just a discussion
that’s all!

The wiki describes original designs going back to 1954, so there maybe
a 'Syntax' version that is close or identical. From the links it
appears there are many variations of the 'Syntax' family and
derivatives. The 'Syntax' font download  from the link you supplied
"font palace" is indeed similar, however the Q tail is tapered towards
the circle and not the same as the original box design. I have now
three different versions of "Syntax" (no added classes) and one called
Syntax Two (which is closer than Syntax) however none of these are
exactly the same as the original design that I can see although I
stand to be corrected. I still say the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO seems
to me the closest. If Ralf can let us know where his version is from I
would like to see for myself.

Regards, 
Lee Privett




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[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Dave Park
Sent: 03 March 2013 15:45
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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax_(typeface)

And this: http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Syntax/

Fun times!

Dave


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Dave Park 
wrote:

> I believe you guys are in violent agreement.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ralf Reköndt
wrote:
>
>> As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the
font. 
>> I have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by
Sinclair.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett"
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font

>> is SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you
>> mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond
in 
>> years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL 
>> initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close 
>> facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you 
>> mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going
in 
>> to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example
obtained 
>> from a forum where I put the original request , see here
>> http://www.fonts101.com/c/**forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/**
>>
Identifying_a_> k/Identifying_a_> Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you
will 
>> also see, if you look carefully, that the width of the circle part
of 
>> the Q is not constant around the circumference although quite 
>> circular and although the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it
is 
>> still not exactly the same and slightly oval. If anyone does come 
>> across the original font used for the box on the Sinclair QL 
>> packaging I would be grateful. I now realise I am starting to sound

>> like a 'font nerd' (if there is such a thing), so apologies for
that 
>> :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lee Privett
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>>
ql-users-bounces@lists.q-v-d.**com
>>
[mailto:ql-users-bounces@**lists.q-v-d.com> -d.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt
>> Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37
>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>> Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts
>>
>> Hi Dilwyn,
>>
>> a little correction for your site:
>>
>> The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not
>>
>> "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising
and 
>> documentation"
>>
>> In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The 
>> Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to 
>> make it a free font.
>>
>> Cheers...Ralf
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

2013-03-03 Thread Dave Park 
I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax_(typeface)

And this: http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Syntax/

Fun times!

Dave


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Dave Park  wrote:

> I believe you guys are in violent agreement.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
>
>> As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the font. I
>> have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by Sinclair.
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett"
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is
>> SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you
>> mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in
>> years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL
>> initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close
>> facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you
>> mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in
>> to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example obtained
>> from a forum where I put the original request , see here
>> http://www.fonts101.com/c/**forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/**
>> Identifying_a_
>> Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you
>> look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not
>> constant around the circumference although quite circular and although
>> the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the
>> same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font
>> used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I
>> now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is
>> such a thing), so apologies for that :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lee Privett
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ql-users-bounces@lists.q-v-d.**com
>> [mailto:ql-users-bounces@**lists.q-v-d.com]
>> On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt
>> Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37
>> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
>> Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts
>>
>> Hi Dilwyn,
>>
>> a little correction for your site:
>>
>> The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not
>>
>> "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and
>> documentation"
>>
>> In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The
>> Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make
>> it a free font.
>>
>> Cheers...Ralf
>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

2013-03-03 Thread Dave Park 
I believe you guys are in violent agreement.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ralf Reköndt wrote:

> As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the font. I
> have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by Sinclair.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett"
>
>
>
> Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is
> SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you
> mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in
> years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL
> initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close
> facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you
> mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in
> to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example obtained
> from a forum where I put the original request , see here
> http://www.fonts101.com/c/**forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/**Identifying_a_
> Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you
> look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not
> constant around the circumference although quite circular and although
> the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the
> same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font
> used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I
> now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is
> such a thing), so apologies for that :)
>
> Regards,
> Lee Privett
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ql-users-bounces@lists.q-v-d.**com
> [mailto:ql-users-bounces@**lists.q-v-d.com]
> On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt
> Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37
> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts
>
> Hi Dilwyn,
>
> a little correction for your site:
>
> The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not
>
> "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and
> documentation"
>
> In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The
> Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make
> it a free font.
>
> Cheers...Ralf
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

2013-03-03 Thread Ralf Reköndt 
As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the font. I have 
an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by Sinclair.


- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Privett"



Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is
SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you
mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in
years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL
initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close
facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you
mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in
to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example obtained
from a forum where I put the original request , see here
http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/Identifying_a_
Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you
look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not
constant around the circumference although quite circular and although
the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the
same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font
used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I
now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is
such a thing), so apologies for that :)

Regards,
Lee Privett


-Original Message-
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com
[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt
Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts

Hi Dilwyn,

a little correction for your site:

The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not

"Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and
documentation"

In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The
Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make
it a free font.

Cheers...Ralf

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts

2013-03-03 Thread Lee Privett 
Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is
SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you
mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in
years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL
initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close
facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you
mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in
to the circle, the original Q doesn’t. For a visual example obtained
from a forum where I put the original request , see here
http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/Identifying_a_
Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you
look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not
constant around the circumference although quite circular and although
the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the
same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font
used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I
now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is
such a thing), so apologies for that :)

Regards, 
Lee Privett


-Original Message-
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com
[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt
Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts

Hi Dilwyn,

a little correction for your site:

The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not

"Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and
documentation"

In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The
Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make
it a free font.

Cheers...Ralf 

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[Ql-Users] Fonts

2013-03-03 Thread Ralf Reköndt 

Hi Dilwyn,

a little correction for your site:

The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not

"Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and 
documentation"


In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The 
Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make it a 
free font.


Cheers...Ralf 


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