Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-06 Thread Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users
Jan,
with an FB-machine, you would probably have had much harder 30+ QL-years than 
you actually had ;)

Tobias

> Am 06.01.2018 um 12:06 schrieb Jan Bredenbeek via Ql-Users 
> :
> 
> On 5 January 2018 at 22:33, Dave Park via Ql-Users > wrote:
> 
>> I did have an FB dongle around here once upon a time, but I haven't seen it
>> in five years.
>> 
> 
> I once got my hands on an FB machine somewhere in autumn 1984. A local
> computer store had imported it from the UK (probably not officially). It
> didn't take long before the 'bad or changed medium' message popped up on
> loading Quill. So I decided to wait a little longer before buying a QL.
> Of course, with today's hindsight (and money!) I would have bought it...
> 
> Jan.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-06 Thread Jan Bredenbeek via Ql-Users
On 5 January 2018 at 22:33, Dave Park via Ql-Users  wrote:

> I did have an FB dongle around here once upon a time, but I haven't seen it
> in five years.
>

I once got my hands on an FB machine somewhere in autumn 1984. A local
computer store had imported it from the UK (probably not officially). It
didn't take long before the 'bad or changed medium' message popped up on
loading Quill. So I decided to wait a little longer before buying a QL.
Of course, with today's hindsight (and money!) I would have bought it...

Jan.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-05 Thread Dave Park via Ql-Users
I did have an FB dongle around here once upon a time, but I haven't seen it
in five years.

Dave.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 3:04 PM, pjwitte via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Hehe! Spot on, Tobias
> Per
>
> On 05/01/2018 15:49, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users wrote:
>
>> AF = Awfully faulty
>> JM = jerkily mended
>> JS = just stable
>> MG = mainly good
>>
>> ;) (just joking)
>>
>> Tobias
>>
>> Am 05.01.2018 um 12:56 schrieb Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
>>> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi Paolo,
>>>
>>> as far as I remember, the code letters for the various QL ROMs have been
>>> named after:
>>>
>>> * Taxi Drivers used by Sinclair staff;
>>> * Engineers at Sinclair;
>>> * Women in the Sinclair offices.
>>>
>>> There may bo other "uses", but the letters in JM and JS etc are the
>>> initials of certain people from the above list. I have not seen a full list
>>> of the various names actually used though, so I can't tell you who JM and
>>> JS were. Sorry.
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Norm.
>>>
>>> On 04/01/18 18:30, Paolo Del Bene via Ql-Users wrote:
>>>
 Today's Topics:
 1. Re: about JM and JS roms
  (Paolo Del Bene)
  34 years are passed, and I haven't
  anymore a QL Sinclair from 27
  years when my father before bought
  it for me and then he sold without to
  say nothing to me.
  I am here only to ask for what stand
  the name JM and JS in the roms.
  I haven't found any information
 about, if you can help me I'll be
  happy
  Happy GNU Year 2018
  Paolo Del Bene iw0fzw

>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-05 Thread pjwitte via Ql-Users

Hehe! Spot on, Tobias
Per
On 05/01/2018 15:49, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users wrote:

AF = Awfully faulty
JM = jerkily mended
JS = just stable
MG = mainly good

;) (just joking)

Tobias


Am 05.01.2018 um 12:56 schrieb Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users 
:

Hi Paolo,

as far as I remember, the code letters for the various QL ROMs have been named 
after:

* Taxi Drivers used by Sinclair staff;
* Engineers at Sinclair;
* Women in the Sinclair offices.

There may bo other "uses", but the letters in JM and JS etc are the initials of 
certain people from the above list. I have not seen a full list of the various names 
actually used though, so I can't tell you who JM and JS were. Sorry.


HTH

Cheers,
Norm.

On 04/01/18 18:30, Paolo Del Bene via Ql-Users wrote:

Today's Topics:
1. Re: about JM and JS roms
 (Paolo Del Bene)
 34 years are passed, and I haven't
 anymore a QL Sinclair from 27
 years when my father before bought
 it for me and then he sold without to
 say nothing to me.
 I am here only to ask for what stand
 the name JM and JS in the roms.
 I haven't found any information
about, if you can help me I'll be
 happy
 Happy GNU Year 2018
 Paolo Del Bene iw0fzw



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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-05 Thread Jan Bredenbeek via Ql-Users
On 5 January 2018 at 15:49, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> AF = Awfully faulty
> JM = jerkily mended
> JS = just stable
> MG = mainly good


FB - Full of Bugs (has anyone this ROM around? Would be a collector's item
;-))

Jan.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-05 Thread Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users
Yes, apparently it did:

TY - How creative ;)

Tobias

> Am 05.01.2018 um 16:33 schrieb Dave Park via Ql-Users 
> :
> 
> Did the Tyche ROM ever get letters?
> 
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> 
>> AF = Awfully faulty
>> JM = jerkily mended
>> JS = just stable
>> MG = mainly good
>> 
>> ;) (just joking)
>> 
>> Tobias
>> 
>>> Am 05.01.2018 um 12:56 schrieb Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
>> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hi Paolo,
>>> 
>>> as far as I remember, the code letters for the various QL ROMs have been
>> named after:
>>> 
>>> * Taxi Drivers used by Sinclair staff;
>>> * Engineers at Sinclair;
>>> * Women in the Sinclair offices.
>>> 
>>> There may bo other "uses", but the letters in JM and JS etc are the
>> initials of certain people from the above list. I have not seen a full list
>> of the various names actually used though, so I can't tell you who JM and
>> JS were. Sorry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Norm.
>>> 
>>> On 04/01/18 18:30, Paolo Del Bene via Ql-Users wrote:
 Today's Topics:
   1. Re: about JM and JS roms
(Paolo Del Bene)
34 years are passed, and I haven't
anymore a QL Sinclair from 27
years when my father before bought
it for me and then he sold without to
say nothing to me.
I am here only to ask for what stand
the name JM and JS in the roms.
I haven't found any information
   about, if you can help me I'll be
happy
Happy GNU Year 2018
Paolo Del Bene iw0fzw
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Norman Dunbar
>>> Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
>>> 
>>> Registered address:
>>> 27a Lidget Hill
>>> Pudsey
>>> West Yorkshire
>>> United Kingdom
>>> LS28 7LG
>>> 
>>> Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-05 Thread Dave Park via Ql-Users
Did the Tyche ROM ever get letters?

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> AF = Awfully faulty
> JM = jerkily mended
> JS = just stable
> MG = mainly good
>
> ;) (just joking)
>
> Tobias
>
> > Am 05.01.2018 um 12:56 schrieb Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com>:
> >
> > Hi Paolo,
> >
> > as far as I remember, the code letters for the various QL ROMs have been
> named after:
> >
> > * Taxi Drivers used by Sinclair staff;
> > * Engineers at Sinclair;
> > * Women in the Sinclair offices.
> >
> > There may bo other "uses", but the letters in JM and JS etc are the
> initials of certain people from the above list. I have not seen a full list
> of the various names actually used though, so I can't tell you who JM and
> JS were. Sorry.
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Norm.
> >
> > On 04/01/18 18:30, Paolo Del Bene via Ql-Users wrote:
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>1. Re: about JM and JS roms
> >> (Paolo Del Bene)
> >> 34 years are passed, and I haven't
> >> anymore a QL Sinclair from 27
> >> years when my father before bought
> >> it for me and then he sold without to
> >> say nothing to me.
> >> I am here only to ask for what stand
> >> the name JM and JS in the roms.
> >> I haven't found any information
> >>about, if you can help me I'll be
> >> happy
> >> Happy GNU Year 2018
> >> Paolo Del Bene iw0fzw
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Norman Dunbar
> > Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
> >
> > Registered address:
> > 27a Lidget Hill
> > Pudsey
> > West Yorkshire
> > United Kingdom
> > LS28 7LG
> >
> > Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-05 Thread Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users
AF = Awfully faulty
JM = jerkily mended 
JS = just stable
MG = mainly good

;) (just joking)

Tobias

> Am 05.01.2018 um 12:56 schrieb Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users 
> :
> 
> Hi Paolo,
> 
> as far as I remember, the code letters for the various QL ROMs have been 
> named after:
> 
> * Taxi Drivers used by Sinclair staff;
> * Engineers at Sinclair;
> * Women in the Sinclair offices.
> 
> There may bo other "uses", but the letters in JM and JS etc are the initials 
> of certain people from the above list. I have not seen a full list of the 
> various names actually used though, so I can't tell you who JM and JS were. 
> Sorry.
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> Norm.
> 
> On 04/01/18 18:30, Paolo Del Bene via Ql-Users wrote:
>> Today's Topics:
>>1. Re: about JM and JS roms
>> (Paolo Del Bene)
>> 34 years are passed, and I haven't
>> anymore a QL Sinclair from 27
>> years when my father before bought
>> it for me and then he sold without to
>> say nothing to me.
>> I am here only to ask for what stand
>> the name JM and JS in the roms.
>> I haven't found any information
>>about, if you can help me I'll be
>> happy
>> Happy GNU Year 2018
>> Paolo Del Bene iw0fzw
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Norman Dunbar
> Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
> 
> Registered address:
> 27a Lidget Hill
> Pudsey
> West Yorkshire
> United Kingdom
> LS28 7LG
> 
> Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-05 Thread Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users

Hi Paolo,

as far as I remember, the code letters for the various QL ROMs have been 
named after:


* Taxi Drivers used by Sinclair staff;
* Engineers at Sinclair;
* Women in the Sinclair offices.

There may bo other "uses", but the letters in JM and JS etc are the 
initials of certain people from the above list. I have not seen a full 
list of the various names actually used though, so I can't tell you who 
JM and JS were. Sorry.



HTH

Cheers,
Norm.

On 04/01/18 18:30, Paolo Del Bene via Ql-Users wrote:

Today's Topics:

1. Re: about JM and JS roms

 (Paolo Del Bene)

 34 years are passed, and I haven't
 anymore a QL Sinclair from 27
 years when my father before bought
 it for me and then he sold without to
 say nothing to me.

 I am here only to ask for what stand
 the name JM and JS in the roms.

 I haven't found any information
about, if you can help me I'll be
 happy

 Happy GNU Year 2018

 Paolo Del Bene iw0fzw






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Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
27a Lidget Hill
Pudsey
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United Kingdom
LS28 7LG

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 167, Issue 2

2018-01-04 Thread Paolo Del Bene via Ql-Users
Today's Topics:

   1. Re: about JM and JS roms

(Paolo Del Bene)

34 years are passed, and I haven't
anymore a QL Sinclair from 27
years when my father before bought
it for me and then he sold without to
say nothing to me.

I am here only to ask for what stand
the name JM and JS in the roms.

I haven't found any information
   about, if you can help me I'll be
happy

Happy GNU Year 2018

Paolo Del Bene iw0fzw


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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 10:13:51 +0100
From: Jan Bredenbeek 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Merry Christmas with SMSQ/E
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Hi Norman,

On 31 December 2017 at 19:43, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Happy New Year one and all.
>
> I started pcb design a while back too. I use Fritzing and/or Kicad for
> mine. Manually routing a pcb can seriously use up a good few hours of your
> life! But it's [still] fun.
>
> I will probably live to regret this but, let me know how/where to get the
> DISA source and I  will take a look and try to understand it. I must say
in
> advance that time, as ever, is probably limited as my wife and I are in
the
> middle of dealing with a severe case of dementia affecting my mother in
> law. This, as you can imagine, is a bit of a time killer, and the worst of
> it is, she'll never get better.
>

I'm sorry to read this. Well we've come a long way already commenting
MultiMon so DISA would be a nice GitHub project to do next ;)

Best wishes for 2018,

Jan.

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2018 16:53:54 +
From: Norman Dunbar 
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Merry Christmas with SMSQ/E
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Afternoon Jan.

Happy New Year to you, here's hoping that 2018 is a good one.

DISA would possibly be a good one - if the original author is ok with his
code being publically available on Github, which I hope he is. Mind you, we
need to finish Multimon first. ;-)

I'll be getting back to that very soon, I hope.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 2 January 2018 09:13:51 GMT+00:00, Jan Bredenbeek via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>Hi Norman,
>
>On 31 December 2017 at 19:43, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
>ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year one and all.
>>
>> I started pcb design a while back too. I use Fritzing and/or Kicad
>for
>> mine. Manually routing a pcb can seriously use up a good few hours of
>your
>> life! But it's [still] fun.
>>
>> I will probably live to regret this but, let me know how/where to get
>the
>> DISA source and I  will take a look and try to understand it. I must
>say in
>> advance that time, as ever, is probably limited as my wife and I are
>in the
>> middle of dealing with a severe case of dementia affecting my mother
>in
>> law. This, as you can imagine, is a bit of a time killer, and the
>worst of
>> it is, she'll never get better.
>>
>
>I'm sorry to read this. Well we've come a long way already commenting
>MultiMon so DISA would be a nice GitHub project to do next ;)
>
>Best wishes for 2018,
>
>Jan.
>
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