Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
Depends on your contract but generally yes. --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps) To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Friday, 1 June, 2012, 14:37 John Alexander wrote, on 1/Jun/12 11:42 | Jun1: The problem with just the Domain name thing is that you then need to support the server so : a) you need a server b) need to power maintain and maintain security on etc etc c) need to host it if that's what you are doing d or home host which is strictly speaking against your service agreement What is 'home host'? Are you saying that hosting a website at home is against your ISP broadband contract? Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
The problem with just the Domain name thing is that you then need to support the server so : a) you need a server b) need to power maintain and maintain security on etc etc c) need to host it if that's what you are doing d or home host which is strictly speaking against your service agreement Obviously how much of the Alphabet you use depends on your selections, still a PITA though. John --- On Wed, 30/5/12, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps) To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Wednesday, 30 May, 2012, 15:06 That's what I do. When I give a company an email, I give company.n...@mydomain.com- it's very quick and easy to work out who is selling email addresses. All mail to *@mydomain.com lands in a single box ;) Dave Back in the days of snail-mail, it was fairly easy to trace who put me on which mailing lists because I have a Welsh name and (then) an even more Welsh address. Companies used to mis-spell the name or address in every way imaginable (plus a few more besides) and those same mistakes would turn up in junk mailings, revealing (often surprisingly) which of many everyday businesses used to do this. I suppose this is same principle - putting variations in the email addresses you use to back-trace where it got onto mailing lists in the first place. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
John Alexander wrote, on 1/Jun/12 11:42 | Jun1: The problem with just the Domain name thing is that you then need to support the server so : a) you need a server b) need to power maintain and maintain security on etc etc c) need to host it if that's what you are doing d or home host which is strictly speaking against your service agreement What is 'home host'? Are you saying that hosting a website at home is against your ISP broadband contract? Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
-Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of John Alexander Sent: 29 May 2012 18:29 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps) I was going to put mine down then it asked for a confirmation email...Nice try i wonder what they send you after you have clicked In my case, absolutely nothing Neil *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01234-265380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
I was going to put mine down then it asked for a confirmation email...Nice try i wonder what they send you after you have clicked In my case, absolutely nothing Neil Some do, some don't. Most sites force you to enter an email address for validation to prevent automated spamming and possibly malicious intent (someone signing you up to something without your knowledge - stops me signing up every QL user I know to QL Forum and this list without their knowledge, for example). Must admit, if a site I don't know wants an email address from me, I usually avoid it if I'm unsure. That said, there are some temporary (short-lived) email address services you can use just for signing up to websites like this to avoid using your regular email address - once the short-life email address dies after you've had long enough to sign up and respond to a validation email address, they can't spam your regular email address if you are unsure about a site. I suppose it pays to have an extra email address you can use just for purposes like this, to control spam etc. That way, once you are satisfied the website is bona fide, they will let you alter your email address later to your regular email address if you wish. I'd probably go as far as to say that unless you are 100% happy with a site, NEVER use your regular email address to sign up to anything. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
On 30/05/2012 12:07, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I was going to put mine down then it asked for a confirmation email...Nice try i wonder what they send you after you have clicked In my case, absolutely nothing Neil Some do, some don't. Most sites force you to enter an email address for validation to prevent automated spamming and possibly malicious intent (someone signing you up to something without your knowledge - stops me signing up every QL user I know to QL Forum and this list without their knowledge, for example). Must admit, if a site I don't know wants an email address from me, I usually avoid it if I'm unsure. That said, there are some temporary (short-lived) email address services you can use just for signing up to websites like this to avoid using your regular email address - once the short-life email address dies after you've had long enough to sign up and respond to a validation email address, they can't spam your regular email address if you are unsure about a site. I suppose it pays to have an extra email address you can use just for purposes like this, to control spam etc. That way, once you are satisfied the website is bona fide, they will let you alter your email address later to your regular email address if you wish. I'd probably go as far as to say that unless you are 100% happy with a site, NEVER use your regular email address to sign up to anything. Dilwyn Jones My son-in-law is in the computer industry and I was discussing the source of spam, and he has given me, on his own domain, ten email addresses which he can change as needed. You plant one when you are asked to respond with a contact, and if it goes further, you know who to blame. Works a treat to have email addresses under one's own control independent of service ;provider. He recommends having one's own domain which only costs about £5 pa. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
That's what I do. When I give a company an email, I give company.n...@mydomain.com- it's very quick and easy to work out who is selling email addresses. All mail to *@mydomain.com lands in a single box ;) Dave On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org wrote: On 30/05/2012 12:07, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I was going to put mine down then it asked for a confirmation email...Nice try i wonder what they send you after you have clicked In my case, absolutely nothing Neil Some do, some don't. Most sites force you to enter an email address for validation to prevent automated spamming and possibly malicious intent (someone signing you up to something without your knowledge - stops me signing up every QL user I know to QL Forum and this list without their knowledge, for example). Must admit, if a site I don't know wants an email address from me, I usually avoid it if I'm unsure. That said, there are some temporary (short-lived) email address services you can use just for signing up to websites like this to avoid using your regular email address - once the short-life email address dies after you've had long enough to sign up and respond to a validation email address, they can't spam your regular email address if you are unsure about a site. I suppose it pays to have an extra email address you can use just for purposes like this, to control spam etc. That way, once you are satisfied the website is bona fide, they will let you alter your email address later to your regular email address if you wish. I'd probably go as far as to say that unless you are 100% happy with a site, NEVER use your regular email address to sign up to anything. Dilwyn Jones My son-in-law is in the computer industry and I was discussing the source of spam, and he has given me, on his own domain, ten email addresses which he can change as needed. You plant one when you are asked to respond with a contact, and if it goes further, you know who to blame. Works a treat to have email addresses under one's own control independent of service ;provider. He recommends having one's own domain which only costs about £5 pa. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
Bryan Horstmann wrote, on 30/May/12 13:27 | May30: On 30/05/2012 12:07, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I was going to put mine down then it asked for a confirmation email...Nice try i wonder what they send you after you have clicked In my case, absolutely nothing Neil Some do, some don't. Most sites force you to enter an email address for validation to prevent automated spamming and possibly malicious intent (someone signing you up to something without your knowledge - stops me signing up every QL user I know to QL Forum and this list without their knowledge, for example). Must admit, if a site I don't know wants an email address from me, I usually avoid it if I'm unsure. That said, there are some temporary (short-lived) email address services you can use just for signing up to websites like this to avoid using your regular email address - once the short-life email address dies after you've had long enough to sign up and respond to a validation email address, they can't spam your regular email address if you are unsure about a site. I suppose it pays to have an extra email address you can use just for purposes like this, to control spam etc. That way, once you are satisfied the website is bona fide, they will let you alter your email address later to your regular email address if you wish. I'd probably go as far as to say that unless you are 100% happy with a site, NEVER use your regular email address to sign up to anything. Dilwyn Jones My son-in-law is in the computer industry and I was discussing the source of spam, and he has given me, on his own domain, ten email addresses which he can change as needed. You plant one when you are asked to respond with a contact, and if it goes further, you know who to blame. Works a treat to have email addresses under one's own control independent of service ;provider. He recommends having one's own domain which only costs about £5 pa. £3 with most including the superb gandi.net. Don't sign up though for web hosting unless you really have nowhere you can host it. Hosting is how they make most money! If you have a fixed IP address, then it is is easy to set up a website using your own broadband, albeit slow upload. You simply set DNS with the domain host to point to your IP address, and run a web server like apache. Dilwyn for instance used 123-reg I think for his domain, but points DNS to my server. Incidentally Dilwyn, there was a short outage last night from about 23:00. The data centre had a power failure. I was there until about 03:30 rescuing my server and a host of WN ones. Tony -- t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
Dilwyn for instance used 123-reg I think for his domain, but points DNS to my server. I did have problems with the domain to start with, but since it settled down I have been very happy with it. Plus Tony's hosting of course. Incidentally Dilwyn, there was a short outage last night from about 23:00. The data centre had a power failure. I was there until about 03:30 rescuing my server and a host of WN ones. Thanks for letting me know.Never noticed and nobody said anything about the site being down. Could have given you a hand (hindrance?) as I had an insomniac night last night :-( Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
That's what I do. When I give a company an email, I give company.n...@mydomain.com- it's very quick and easy to work out who is selling email addresses. All mail to *@mydomain.com lands in a single box ;) Dave Back in the days of snail-mail, it was fairly easy to trace who put me on which mailing lists because I have a Welsh name and (then) an even more Welsh address. Companies used to mis-spell the name or address in every way imaginable (plus a few more besides) and those same mistakes would turn up in junk mailings, revealing (often surprisingly) which of many everyday businesses used to do this. I suppose this is same principle - putting variations in the email addresses you use to back-trace where it got onto mailing lists in the first place. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
I was going to put mine down then it asked for a confirmation email...Nice try i wonder what they send you after you have clicked --- On Mon, 28/5/12, Neil Riley neil.ri...@boxclever.co.uk wrote: From: Neil Riley neil.ri...@boxclever.co.uk Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps) To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Monday, 28 May, 2012, 16:18 Oops! Here's the link rastrack.ryanteck.org.uk/index.php -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Neil Riley Sent: 28 May 2012 16:13 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps) Just a bit of fun, Zoom in and see where others have logged their Raspberry Pi's, add your own. It only takes a minute. Neil *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01234-265380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01234-265380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps)
Oops! Here's the link rastrack.ryanteck.org.uk/index.php -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Neil Riley Sent: 28 May 2012 16:13 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Raspberry Pi Tracker (Google Maps) Just a bit of fun, Zoom in and see where others have logged their Raspberry Pi's, add your own. It only takes a minute. Neil *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01234-265380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01234-265380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. BC Services (UK) Limited (trading as Boxclever), Technology House, Ampthill Road, Bedford, MK42 9QQ. Registered No. 5290544 England www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
